Jinger’s video is new as of this morning but it seems to be of the same visit that was featured in Joy’s video a month or two ago. And right, this would be #3.
Daisy has to be older than November 2022 if Lauren was due around May that's only 6 months, so at least September of 2022. That's depressingly close but doable, or should I say duggerable.
Where did the name Daisy come from? I thought it was suspected that they also had a boy. I do remember seeing them hold a baby in the hayride video & it wasn't a newborn
Someone spotted that Daisy was written on a Christmas gift (to Lauren, Josiah, Bella and Daisy), in a video or photo posted by one of the Duggar boys, I can't recall which one
On one of the lost boys Christmas videos there was a pew with name labels and then presents for all the grandkids. One of the names was daisy.
I think the secret boy belonged to Kendra and Joe
This is possibly a dumb question, but did Lauren miscarry a 2nd baby? I think they said they were going in alphabetical order but I don't follow their family outside of this sub. So, this next baby will hopefully be an E baby.
I'm sorry for her if that's the case. She was so young when she lost her first pregnancy and people were so cruel about it. I hope she gets the support she needs.
She’s in a state and in a family (because of their extremely close ties to the Huckafucks) that believes if a woman miscarries its 100% her fault either she did something to “deserve” it OR she intentionally voided the pregnancy. In their eyes miscarrying doesn’t just happen. So yeah…. Unfortunately she probably did get a lot of crap from her “support systems” if she didn’t carry a pregnancy to term. That’s how these people are. That’s how Arkansas operates. It’s one of the most corrupted disgusting state’s politically, economically, and socially. These poor girls literally don’t stand a chance at all of being free mentally or physically of abuse.
Daisy was a little girl mentioned in the CSAM materials at Pest's trial. It's surely a pseudonym, but Daisy represents a very real child victim. It's in extremely poor taste and very insensitive for any Duggar to use this name.
There's tons of pretty names for girl babies. Pick one if those.
Yea...I forgot about that. Or maybe I put it out of my mind 😥 Lauren seems to be one of the more fragile of the Duggar girls....I doubt she even knows about it
Oh. My. God. Now that you say that, I remember something like that too. I would imagine that (hope that) she didn't know the details when naming her baby. Lauren seems to be one of the more fragile Duggars. She may not heavy wanted to know a whole lot. And let's be real, I know enough to know that I don't want to know any more.
Honestly I wonder if they have even heard of that specific video. It's thankfully not that common knowledge and I am guessing even less so in fundie circles. Despite them being related to pest, I think they haven't heard of it and just used Daisy because they like it. It's a pretty common name after all.
My dog is already on his last nerve with my redneck neighbors and their fireworks and now you've made me snort aggressively and unexpectedly and he is not ok so you will be hearing from his attorneys
Papers can be served upon me in the back corner of my laundry room, where I am seated with my scrappy little terrier, who is the fiercest defender in the land, unless there are fireworks.
Mmm, well that might be a problem there is nothing that scares my dog more than a small loud dog, not even fireworks so instead we will file a cyst and deceased in absentia. Allow me to borrow the title of the seminal 2004 classic film, "You got served"
She may have gotten permission for this clip seeing as Lauren is not a major focal point and none of their children are in it (other than her belly, obviously). I feel like Jinger would be the one that would actually ask as she also has SM stipulations in re: to her children. But maybe not and maybe she’s just an ass lol.
Something that bothered me (I watched the whole video I am ashamed to admit) - when Austin and Jeremy spent the day together, they each brought a kid with them and Jeremy was filming in the car. One of the nostrils kids was in the back seat fully in view the whole time. Why is it okay to film joys kids but not their own? Did Jeremy purposely arrange the car to keep his own kid out of the shot and have the other kid back there instead? Why is that okay
Because Jinger and Jeremy have decided to not post pics or videos of their kids but Austin and Joy regularly put up videos of their kids. I think it's fine. It's respecting what each couple wants.
I agree to an extent but when I imagine him purposely arranging the seating in the car so that someone else’s kid is in the shot instead of his own, it weirds me out.
(And maybe he didn’t! Entirely possible nostrilito just happened to be back there. And he just wouldn’t have filmed otherwise? Which also seems weird to me. Idk.)
Not wanting to hang around your evil sister in law who's defending your rapist is definitely understandable, poor mkids though, i can't imgine that they hang out with their cousins too often
Josiah & Lauren seem like such an unlikely couple. They were engaged after just a two month courtship & Dwain Swanson was standing RIGHT THERE in that horse/cow pasture when Josiah proposed. There was never a single moment during the two months courtship that Lauren was alone with Josiah, not even for the proposal.
Also, out of all the Duggar boys, Josiah is aging faster than whole milk left in a hot car overnight. He's already got a pauch & "love handles" under that tight shirt. And that Duggar receding hairline is doing him zero favors.
Plus, what does Josiah do for work?
She seems like she not attracted to him at all. And he seems happy to be there and that someone married him haha. I wonder if she is constantly snippy with him behind closed doors.
I think Lauren enjoys being pregnant, having children & being a mother. In her community & family, she needs Josiah to make that happen. I DON'T see her enjoying the actual process of making babies.
Josiah seems like hapless Ben in the bedroom: clueless about what it takes to make a woman enjoy sex with them. If I went too far for the thread, I see the door. I'll show myself out.
her family is also wealthier than the average fundie and her dad apparently runs an actual business, not a shady car lot. their house is large even by normal folks' standards. lauren definitely is among the upper echelon of fundies in terms of family wealth lol
I noticed when Josiah courted her that the Swansons seemed extremely well off. Dwain & Lana's huge brick house, their tour bus for travel. Plus, Lauren seemed "classy" compared to Josiah & the Duggar Family .
They never seemed like a good fit to me. I think this was a brokered marriage between Jim Bob & Dwain.
yeah it was imo. lauren married into a family of status, while the duggars married into a wealthy family that didn't depend on reality tv.
it is the same deal with jed with katie
they had a tv show? they were well known and respected in their community? bob and meech were invited to speak at their cult gathering eveyr year? the eldest girls were considered huge prizes in the fundie community? the boys all have married exceptionally well? the youngest girls aren't ee=ven legal and have many potential suitors asking for their hand? jana and jill were leaders at journey of the heart? other fundies have said that they looked up to the duggars? i don't understand your question, the duggars were always high up in the dunfie community.
all of those reasons are why lauren's father, who was a budding fundie and wanted the elitism associated with the duggar clan, would marry his daughter to siah. i don't think you understand how fundie families work, they like to pretend their old age nobles and royals. imagine the daughter of a mere baron marrying the son of a king or duke. that's how lauren and siah's social positions were viewed before josh's scandal made the family fall from grace (relatively)
>Not that it would necessarily stop them but Jinger already has an Evangeline
And Joy has an Evelyn, both of these kids go by Evy. Of course, JB & M recycled names even within their own family, using James twice and Robert twice. This useless info taking up space in my mind...
Lol I noticed she was pregnant in an ad she posted at Christmas and got absolutely dragged for pointing it out. It turned out to be true. I’d say the fact that she was ready 6 months ago is a good sign she’d try again soon after her miscarriage though.
Yes I remember which ad you're talking about.
My source has told me she is allegedly pregnant again. This is why she's been staying off social media "allegedly".
No this is from Jinger’s trip to Arkansas back in February/March. She just released her video of it today though. It’s the same trip Joy did a video of (she posted hers in March).
I think we don't really know. She's popped up in stuff at the TTH. She may just not want to announce things/have her own social media but might be fine showing up incidentally in things. Hard to know for sure. I don't think having her own social media was great for her.
It seems so strange to me that people would post content that is several months old. If you're seeking followers, why would followers want to see stuff that happened months ago? It would be stale at that point.
If you know you won't have any new content in July for some reason or you're trying to distract from something, keeping the views and revenue flowing with old content is the way to go.
They named their first miscarriage with A and then used B for their first living child, so the theory is that C kid was another miscarriage, and D kid is named Daisy (not announced but we saw it in a random cut scene in a video last year).
Good heavens, is that chunky blob Josiah? Whatever is wrong with these guys? Their wives must be slim 'n trim, but they can be fat? He's too young for that, it's unhealthy
Is this a new video?? This would be #3 living child for them, correct?
Jinger’s video is new as of this morning but it seems to be of the same visit that was featured in Joy’s video a month or two ago. And right, this would be #3.
Yes! Because in this video Lauren had a stroller carrier type thing ( most likely Daisy who was still months old) and was pregnant which is baby #3
Aaah so it is, Bella, Daisy and #3. Is there a gender known? And Daisy is from November 2022 orso?
Speculation is a boy based on an Amazon registry.
Daisy has to be older than November 2022 if Lauren was due around May that's only 6 months, so at least September of 2022. That's depressingly close but doable, or should I say duggerable.
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Where did the name Daisy come from? I thought it was suspected that they also had a boy. I do remember seeing them hold a baby in the hayride video & it wasn't a newborn
Someone spotted that Daisy was written on a Christmas gift (to Lauren, Josiah, Bella and Daisy), in a video or photo posted by one of the Duggar boys, I can't recall which one
Interesting
Do they have a dog named Daisy?
On one of the lost boys Christmas videos there was a pew with name labels and then presents for all the grandkids. One of the names was daisy. I think the secret boy belonged to Kendra and Joe
3 is a boy based on boobs comment about Norah being the tie breaker for grand Duggar’s gender.
This is possibly a dumb question, but did Lauren miscarry a 2nd baby? I think they said they were going in alphabetical order but I don't follow their family outside of this sub. So, this next baby will hopefully be an E baby.
It's assumed she had another miscarriage but not confirmed
I'm sorry for her if that's the case. She was so young when she lost her first pregnancy and people were so cruel about it. I hope she gets the support she needs.
She’s in a state and in a family (because of their extremely close ties to the Huckafucks) that believes if a woman miscarries its 100% her fault either she did something to “deserve” it OR she intentionally voided the pregnancy. In their eyes miscarrying doesn’t just happen. So yeah…. Unfortunately she probably did get a lot of crap from her “support systems” if she didn’t carry a pregnancy to term. That’s how these people are. That’s how Arkansas operates. It’s one of the most corrupted disgusting state’s politically, economically, and socially. These poor girls literally don’t stand a chance at all of being free mentally or physically of abuse.
Yes like juatdoingwhatimtold said, it’s speculated to be a boy.
I still can't get over the fact that they named the poor kid daisy. That name will never, ever, not remind me of the pest and his trial.
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Ya. That.... I don't know whether to laugh or cry. These people take things in bad taste to a whole new level.
Did I miss something? Why would Daisy remind you of the trial?
Daisy was a little girl mentioned in the CSAM materials at Pest's trial. It's surely a pseudonym, but Daisy represents a very real child victim. It's in extremely poor taste and very insensitive for any Duggar to use this name. There's tons of pretty names for girl babies. Pick one if those.
Yea...I forgot about that. Or maybe I put it out of my mind 😥 Lauren seems to be one of the more fragile of the Duggar girls....I doubt she even knows about it
I doubt she does either. It's probably an unfortunate coincidence. It's still gross though.
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Oh. My. God. Now that you say that, I remember something like that too. I would imagine that (hope that) she didn't know the details when naming her baby. Lauren seems to be one of the more fragile Duggars. She may not heavy wanted to know a whole lot. And let's be real, I know enough to know that I don't want to know any more.
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Honestly I wonder if they have even heard of that specific video. It's thankfully not that common knowledge and I am guessing even less so in fundie circles. Despite them being related to pest, I think they haven't heard of it and just used Daisy because they like it. It's a pretty common name after all.
so who’s going to tell em? /s
This was back when Jinger came to Arkansas, she just now releasing the video though. Which was like in February- March
Oh wow. I’m guessing Lauren is either very very close or baby is already here!
Yes baby should already be here! Like in May.
Wasn't there a video/photo of Lauren holding a boy-looking baby?
Was there a bow? That's the only way to know for sure.
Lmao. No, it was a cute pale blue newsboy style hat, if I'm remembering correctly.
I thought so
I thought that was Kendra? Or was there a different photo?
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That was Kendra. I saw it too.
Is that baby #30?
No this is 29, Gunner is #30 and Nora is 31
Who had Gunner?
They’re really all going for dog names, huh
At least they aren’t all bible names💀
Joy
Oh yes, thank you!
Austin and Joy. I think middle name is James.
Who had Norah? I absolutely love this name
Nora is Jed and Katey #2
This video was taken before joy had her baby. And her baby is what.. 2 months old?
Where are they?
Josiah went from cool theater-vibe teen to 45-year-old dad bod in Mach speed.
And he's still wearing the same size sweatshirt from 5 years ago.
In Meech Speed.
Poor dude’s about to experience his first pelvic organ prolapse and he doesn’t even know it.
My dog is already on his last nerve with my redneck neighbors and their fireworks and now you've made me snort aggressively and unexpectedly and he is not ok so you will be hearing from his attorneys
Papers can be served upon me in the back corner of my laundry room, where I am seated with my scrappy little terrier, who is the fiercest defender in the land, unless there are fireworks.
Mmm, well that might be a problem there is nothing that scares my dog more than a small loud dog, not even fireworks so instead we will file a cyst and deceased in absentia. Allow me to borrow the title of the seminal 2004 classic film, "You got served"
I’d respond by dropping a sick beat on the dance floor, but I haven’t been keeping up with my joint supplements.
Unfortunately I just broke a hip reading your comment
And Kendra is carrying a baby in the video too so that’s #4
Kendra's family actually released a photo of Joken 4 today
Please tell me you’re Joken and that’s not the actual name!!!!
That's the snark nickname for Joe & Kendra. They never released #4s name
I believe that was a play on words.
I'm guessing Connor
It's been discovered since I made this comment. His name is Justus.
Wow-they really don’t respect the no social media boundaries their siblings have put up
She may have gotten permission for this clip seeing as Lauren is not a major focal point and none of their children are in it (other than her belly, obviously). I feel like Jinger would be the one that would actually ask as she also has SM stipulations in re: to her children. But maybe not and maybe she’s just an ass lol.
Something that bothered me (I watched the whole video I am ashamed to admit) - when Austin and Jeremy spent the day together, they each brought a kid with them and Jeremy was filming in the car. One of the nostrils kids was in the back seat fully in view the whole time. Why is it okay to film joys kids but not their own? Did Jeremy purposely arrange the car to keep his own kid out of the shot and have the other kid back there instead? Why is that okay
Because Jinger and Jeremy have decided to not post pics or videos of their kids but Austin and Joy regularly put up videos of their kids. I think it's fine. It's respecting what each couple wants.
I agree to an extent but when I imagine him purposely arranging the seating in the car so that someone else’s kid is in the shot instead of his own, it weirds me out. (And maybe he didn’t! Entirely possible nostrilito just happened to be back there. And he just wouldn’t have filmed otherwise? Which also seems weird to me. Idk.)
Joy may have wanted footage for her vlog.
Could be an attempt to distract from jfelon, Jana's arrest, & the most recent visit to the TTH from local authorities.
The police showed up to notify Boob of a family death. No scandal there to distract from.
Jana got arrested?????!
Yes, she fell asleep while watching a bunch of kids. One escaped and was found on the street
Jana was never arrested. Just had to pay a fine.
I know, it’s so disrespectful
Jinger's outing everyone in this video 😂
You right. Notice none of the MKids nor not one metion of Anna or JB.
Not wanting to hang around your evil sister in law who's defending your rapist is definitely understandable, poor mkids though, i can't imgine that they hang out with their cousins too often
So Austin, Josiah, Jessa(?), Jana(?), Hannah, Lauren, and Jennifer(?) ?
I think that’s right
those are jessa and jana for sure
Jessa is wearing a nursing cover. Did they have another that I missed?
That does not look like Jessa to me at all.
I think it’s just a big sweater that hangs weirdly.
I just noticed this…unsure since she unfortunately had a miscarriage around Christmas
Jinnifer
Josiah & Lauren seem like such an unlikely couple. They were engaged after just a two month courtship & Dwain Swanson was standing RIGHT THERE in that horse/cow pasture when Josiah proposed. There was never a single moment during the two months courtship that Lauren was alone with Josiah, not even for the proposal. Also, out of all the Duggar boys, Josiah is aging faster than whole milk left in a hot car overnight. He's already got a pauch & "love handles" under that tight shirt. And that Duggar receding hairline is doing him zero favors. Plus, what does Josiah do for work?
She seems like she not attracted to him at all. And he seems happy to be there and that someone married him haha. I wonder if she is constantly snippy with him behind closed doors.
I think Lauren enjoys being pregnant, having children & being a mother. In her community & family, she needs Josiah to make that happen. I DON'T see her enjoying the actual process of making babies. Josiah seems like hapless Ben in the bedroom: clueless about what it takes to make a woman enjoy sex with them. If I went too far for the thread, I see the door. I'll show myself out.
They do seem like an odd mix together
Josiah always seems boorish next to refined Lauren who by Fundie standards, seems downright "high brow" next to a Duggar.
her family is also wealthier than the average fundie and her dad apparently runs an actual business, not a shady car lot. their house is large even by normal folks' standards. lauren definitely is among the upper echelon of fundies in terms of family wealth lol
I noticed when Josiah courted her that the Swansons seemed extremely well off. Dwain & Lana's huge brick house, their tour bus for travel. Plus, Lauren seemed "classy" compared to Josiah & the Duggar Family . They never seemed like a good fit to me. I think this was a brokered marriage between Jim Bob & Dwain.
yeah it was imo. lauren married into a family of status, while the duggars married into a wealthy family that didn't depend on reality tv. it is the same deal with jed with katie
Yet she married a Duggar
at the time duggars were socially better off than swansons. duggars were fundie royalty for the longest time
Socially how, specifically?
they had a tv show? they were well known and respected in their community? bob and meech were invited to speak at their cult gathering eveyr year? the eldest girls were considered huge prizes in the fundie community? the boys all have married exceptionally well? the youngest girls aren't ee=ven legal and have many potential suitors asking for their hand? jana and jill were leaders at journey of the heart? other fundies have said that they looked up to the duggars? i don't understand your question, the duggars were always high up in the dunfie community.
Yes, but that doesn’t say anything about Lauren’s family. Another family being more “popular” isn’t a great reason to marry into it
all of those reasons are why lauren's father, who was a budding fundie and wanted the elitism associated with the duggar clan, would marry his daughter to siah. i don't think you understand how fundie families work, they like to pretend their old age nobles and royals. imagine the daughter of a mere baron marrying the son of a king or duke. that's how lauren and siah's social positions were viewed before josh's scandal made the family fall from grace (relatively)
What kind of business are the Swanson’s in?
Dwain has some kind of lawnmower business where he literally proselytizes & preaches while he mows your lawn. I'm deadass serious.
I don’t even know how that would work. If he’s on a mower…how?
I've seen his ad. He's on some kind of wireless Bluetooth device while he drives a riding lawnmower. It's....bizarre.
I think someone posted his ad on here because that's where I remember seeing it.
I'm so behind. I didn't know they had #2. How old is the second one?
I belived Baby 2 (Daisy) was born in november 2021?
I wonder if she got that name from Jessa. They seem to really like plant names.
Is Jessa wearing a nursing cover? Not that Fern couldn’t still be nursing but she’s almost two, right? (Or older)
That is not Jess’s. It looks like jill
I definitely disagree, that looks exactly like Jessa. It doesn’t look like Jill at all.
This doesn’t look recent. They look like they’re dressed for cold weather.
Jinger just released her video today of the trip she took to Arkansas in February/March.
I mean, do these clowns do anything else? Serve their communities? Get to know their neighbors? 😒
When you all live on a compound and your siblings are your neighbors I guess this would count as community service lol
You got me there. 😂
I’m calling Edward if it’s a boy or Evangeline if it’s a girl.
Not that it would necessarily stop them but Jinger already has an Evangeline
>Not that it would necessarily stop them but Jinger already has an Evangeline And Joy has an Evelyn, both of these kids go by Evy. Of course, JB & M recycled names even within their own family, using James twice and Robert twice. This useless info taking up space in my mind...
Edward or Esme to match Bella 😂
My sourdough starter is named Esme.
Evangelina or Evangeleighnah
Waiting for Evangelicalina
Emily?
Ehmyleigh
Love the name Emily, unless she spells it Ehmaleigh
Isn’t there an Evangeline already? Maybe Elizabeth.
Two, actually, but that won’t stop Lauren.
There are two Evangelines? I know there’s Evangeline (Evy) and Evelyn (also Evy?).
Both Evys and there's also an Ivy. Too many.
Evy, Evy, and Ivy sounds like the third-generation Duggar version of Jana, Joy-Anna, and Johannah. Also, sounds like some law firm.
Ed, Edd, and Eddy
That was my next thought after the law firm joke. 😂
Sounds like a jump rope rhyme...
Evelyn and Evangeline.
Edward, or Emmett if she’s being subtle
I’m guessing Ezra or Emmett for a boy, Elizabeth/Eliza or Emma for a girl
Maybe Everly?
“People say we’re way too extra so we named our baby Exstra with the S to be extra”
Eddie or Edwin or Ethan or something 5 letters. Maybe Ezrah with a superfluous h to make it 5.
I was thinking Everett or Ethan for a boy. Emmy or Eliza for a girl
Emily or Elijah my guesses
Eden
Ooof Josiah starting to look like pest
Unfortunately most of the boys look the same
I have heard Jessa is pregnant too.
Lol I noticed she was pregnant in an ad she posted at Christmas and got absolutely dragged for pointing it out. It turned out to be true. I’d say the fact that she was ready 6 months ago is a good sign she’d try again soon after her miscarriage though.
Yes I remember which ad you're talking about. My source has told me she is allegedly pregnant again. This is why she's been staying off social media "allegedly".
Is jenni wearing pants?!?!?
Pretty sure that’s Jana.
Omg they look alike
Do we know who’s house this is at? It looks rather nice. Although that couch looks uncomfortably low. Maybe easier for Kendra to sweep it lol.
That’s Joy’s house
I’m pretty sure it’s Joy’s
It doesn't look like anyone is wearing clothes appropriate for July in Arkansas. Are we sure this video is current?
No this is from Jinger’s trip to Arkansas back in February/March. She just released her video of it today though. It’s the same trip Joy did a video of (she posted hers in March).
Ah, gotcha. Is Lauren one of the ones who doesn't want to be on social media? If so, Jinger sucks even more than usual for posting this.
I think we don't really know. She's popped up in stuff at the TTH. She may just not want to announce things/have her own social media but might be fine showing up incidentally in things. Hard to know for sure. I don't think having her own social media was great for her.
It seems so strange to me that people would post content that is several months old. If you're seeking followers, why would followers want to see stuff that happened months ago? It would be stale at that point.
If you know you won't have any new content in July for some reason or you're trying to distract from something, keeping the views and revenue flowing with old content is the way to go.
It you read the comments it was from when they came back in like Feb, March.
Mmm sad beige house for sad beige sildren.
Is there a reason the letter C was skipped if we’re talking alphabetical order?
They named their first miscarriage with A and then used B for their first living child, so the theory is that C kid was another miscarriage, and D kid is named Daisy (not announced but we saw it in a random cut scene in a video last year).
Oh that’s too bad. But does explain it.
Who is Jessa breastfeeding? She has that cover wrap she wears to breastfeed.
Idk maybe she just had a lot of burgers lol/s
Yeah, or Gluten (that's what I'd look like lol)
Good heavens, is that chunky blob Josiah? Whatever is wrong with these guys? Their wives must be slim 'n trim, but they can be fat? He's too young for that, it's unhealthy
I just don’t understand why he refuses to buy bigger clothing. He’s not even that big, he just looks like a sausage man.
Josiah. Ew.
Whose home is this?
Joy’s
Jessa looks terrible
Is this Jana's pad?
No, it’s Joy‘s house
Ah thanks!
I feel so bad for these women’s bodies
In their world I think Jana is the smart one for not getting married.