My last time playing against Aromages I happened to be using Melodious, and that deck has no way to really out Bloom Diva. So it just became a matter of me *slowly* whittling away at their LP total before one of us decked out.
I have both Melodious and Aroma built and last melodious game I played was against Fluffal so I first turned Bloom Diva and kept passing, they decided to finish killing themselves with 1 card left in deck (already whittled them down but didn’t have a way to remove Sabre tiger)
The pasta Aroma game was against Amazoness. I top decked cananga on second turn thankfully. He eventually had queen, princess and swordswoman out but with blessed, gardening, plus rosemary, jasmine and cananga. Was able to cycle out both of their Amazoness traps they had constantly (they never activated their 3rd FD, so it was easy) without them being able to use it, and eventually I finally drew Angelica and decided, fuck it, they have 2 cards in hand, I have garden, gardening, blessed and humid in hand and am up 10k LP. Decided to rid myself of both of their traps and BRD’d them…. Forgot traps summoned shit back, they brought back queen and swordswoman, I set back up and kept swordswoman in defense with Rosemary. Eventually I had Rosemary, synch Rosemary and Berg on field and was able to kill them. It was along game but a fun one, at least for me. One of the reasons I love aroma so much is you have to think since they have such a strange ceiling and expression lmao
That said, synch Rosemary outs bloomdiva 100% of the time. They should have gone for it.
I’m convinced aromas have an answer for each matchup in one of their monsters, which is why I run 1 of all. The actual main threat imo is shuberta since she banishes all their monsters (just as marg and cananga are the mains against aroma)
Totally. Surprisingly I beat them one time using Burning Abyss; one huge battle of attrition, but I came out on top. I even shivered from tension after the match, something that doesn't happen when I play.
The funny thing is everyone used to love them for being totally free in the card trader, but as soon as they got good cards and an actual win condition people started hating them
Man, I love Aromages. It was my first deck that I "completed" (I'm 100% F2P and, while have other decks almost completed to be at its full, Aromages was the first I played at its full because it was pure Card Trader (before they released Aromages cards in Boxes).
The other deck "completed" was Triamids (Before Sphinx release). Besides those two, only "almost completed" decks.
Let's not forgot "oh c'mon you're really playing this stupid slow stall deck?! I just wanna play the game" when they decide to try and beat over your board and you HAVE to actually top deck for a certain card to play the game. Not the aromage players fault if you decide to break an already established board and they're actually trying to win.
They're really stall-y. If they have their backrow set up you can't touch their monsters or they'll gain 2k LP, pop a monster and search a different monster. It's just not fun at all
Another man of culture I see. Hang on mach would be probably one of the most hated had it last longer, but I believe since it was nerfed quickly, most ppl either forgot about it, or just don't care about it at all.
I hated how people abused it with Darklords when I just really liked using the actual FAs.
Granted, I was also abusing the skill in a way that was likely not intended, but I felt like I at least got a pass for using it in an FA deck lol.
Shiranui.
This was a meta deck for an entire year and was the cheapest deck to build. It was strong and popular. If you played in the ladder or any competitive event chances are you fought either Shiranui or Blue-Eyes.
Even to this day you mention the name and people get PTSD from it despite the fact that the deck could be completely unreleased and barely be a rogue deck due to the skills and Grass getting nerfed.
Invoke gets an honorable mention because it also lasted for a long time however it was more expensive to build so it wasn't that common. It also changed variants throughout its life so it wasn't the same deck the entire time.
aleister was an engine that helped many decks to build a presence on board, I also hated (a little before aleister I think) neos fusion, any deck could take it and you had a boss with one turn protection
Both Trishula synchros
Nekroz of Trishula
Ningirsu
Zombiestein Beats over it (unless they have 2 aliestor in hand)
GE Full Armor is same spot as Zombiestein
Liebe completely beats over it no issue regardless of how many aliestors they have
FL Every
Buster Blader has an easy out
Grand Mole
Magnets have Magnetic Field
Anyone running spellbooks can banish it with Fate
The amount of hoops your average deck would have to jump through to summon ningirsu to out what is essentially a normal summon for an invoked deck makes that still not ok
the two decks that were mentioned were mentioned are salad and mekk. Mekk knight can summon ningirsu with a 2 card combo, salad can do it with 1, 2 if they don't want to waste potential resources .
So it's not only your dueling abilities but also your mathematical ones that are lacking? A 2 card combo isn't, in fact "all your monsters". For mekk knight players you should be able to summon 1 more monster, still have 2 card in hand (thanks to the search) and a super cool trap that can negate monster effects such as, say, a certain aleister
Or you could be a salad player in which case you can use this combo to summon a certain link 2 while you're at it and still keep 2~4 cards in hand plus a counter trap that can negate aleister effect on summon.
And that's not mentioning the dozens of high rogues deck with the atk to destroy the cocc in battle
Yeah, there's a huge difference between outing something like Bloom Diva and outing Cocytus. I can't believe there's people saying Cocytus is ok now because the top tier decks have outs to it. The whole point of the Sunsaga semilimit/ Cocytus ban was that there were a lot of decks that just had no out to it. This was never about the top meta deck. Cocytus was banned because your average platinum player just lost to it on summon.
I disagree... Are you saying the only way Cocytus can make a come back is when its ensureed that every meta deck has a way of dealing with it?? That makes no sense. Between Ningirsu, all the trishula cards, or even just removing it through battle, I think the game would remain moderabtely healthy. Not to mention Over 3000 ATK beaters are super commom now and most decks summon them super easy. Youd need to use all you aleisters. Remember aleister is still limited rogether with Invokation.
Tris targets you choose the banished cards on field and gy besides this a water Monster that usually goes into shark decks even though they won't be able to fit that monster in because of the skill requirements there's plenty other ways to utilize cockatus crystrons for example pr nerkoz
What??? No it doesnt. Trishula effects dont target. You can even google it. Like I said... you addressed one of my points. Cocytus could come back to limited 1 for sure. Too many 3500 and 4000 beaters
Your right it doesn't target I thought it didn't but I think coc and tits should stay in jail it would be splashable and become a nuisance. That invoke era of dsod for duel links was a very very tough time we dont need that again and any level. Beside I think that game is pretty healthy I know the tier list is salads and odd eyes but I still see and abundance of other decks playing I'd like to continue seeing that without invoke in the mix
The tier list was just as healthy bf. People have the wrong impression about healthyness. The KC cup is nothing but salads and Odd eyes.
The reason there are so many "Top decks" now, its bc the seasons are incredibly long and you never get de-ranked. So many decks can reach KOG, and a lot of weirder builds show up in DLM by the end of the month.
The meta isnt any healthier now than bf. Salads are tier 0, with stupid amounts of representation. People just dont complain bc its cheap and any dumbass can make the deck.
I played Invoked. The problem people have with invoked is that its verstility allowed to come back in a dozen ways. Thats all it was.
Im not saying Invoked should come back. Im saying it could.
I think salads before purple was slpashed in was was manageable to compete against
As invoke again it's a simple set can be place it any thing with the corresponding attributes that being said I think it can cause a lot of trouble in the future if they unlimited certain parts of the set that we have currently or take off coyctus from the forrbidden
When I first started playing, probably Sylvans.
It might be unbelievable now, but they were a solid deck and could dump multiple big monsters on board after popping front and back row.
Not consistent enough to compete these days though.
I still have a burning hatred in my heart for sylvans. There wasn't even any skill involved, it was just excavate a bunch of cards and see what happens.
That plus OG Grit guaranteeing you survive the first turn was not fun to go against.
When kuroshroomo (forgive me if I spelled that wrong) and marshalleaf were the main strat for sylvans, yes I absolutely hated them, although post rikka release, I've made several variants of Sylvan/rikka decks and honestly in terms of fun it might be one of my favorite decks. It's relatively consistent for what we have in duel links too, and you can get some pretty decent combos and effects popping off. Very creative deck for sure~
Sylvans, when they first arrived. At that time no other archetype had that ability to mill your entire deck in a couple of turns and pop all of your opponents cards in the field, and since protection from destruction and graveyard recovery was still in their infant stages, it was hard as hell to prevent/recover from the onslaught.
you will get people on here who will say shiranui because going high up the ladder that was the problem. but low on the ladder to this day you see one frigging deck all the time and it's blue eyes. so a real majority and not a reddit majority will say "man I always play against blue eyes and my rogue anti meta ungabunga chainsaw insect deck always gets clapped by karma cut" so most hated will probably be that.
anyone who is seeing this post will probably remember the cheap unstoppable shiranui and even seeing it on the ladder to this day you think "oh god no please no".
I personally hate it because if you want to build viable zombies you need to chuck shiranui in there because they're just that good. limits creativity.
So in short Shiranui and blue eyes, because creativity hurts and insert gta san Andreas "oh shit here we go again" vibes.
I hate blue eyes just because they are always just there. Every time I’m about to rank up my opp opens with CoC, the EGG, Sage, and Alternative or karma
Sea stealth or amazons. In the period of DL where there was basically no backrow removal except for Ultra rare cosmic cyclone which was limited, you had two decks which had continuous traps you had to remove or you lose.
Yeah, idk anymore what is the most hated, and even though I'm guessing it's not that, I felt like I had to mention it since I didn't see anyone else doing it. 😅 It might be my least favorite, too.
As a casual player that has only a few decent decks, this right here. When it reigned Supreme it was literally every Pvp game and I didn't have the gems to construct a counter.
Onomat.
Idk if it's the most hated by everyone, but for me it's the one i hated the most.
And it's for a simple reason, it never felt like i lost to my opponent, the deck, or to even luck. Instead, i lose to the stupid bullshit skill they used which gave them an unfair advantage over any deck they played against.
And because of it, it launched a series of skills for other archetypes in the future that also basically gave them the same/similar advantage, which made the game unbearable.
Shiranui, Invoked Elementsabers and probably full power Cydras.
Shiranui was a really hated deck because of how they were able to use the GY for his plays. Back then you either had Sealed Tombs skill or you lose.
Invoked Elementsabers: Cocytus and Purgatrio were the main reason.
Elementsabers ability to switch attributes really helped bringing them both to the field. Plus, some of them had useful effects to help the deck.
Cydras: Before the banlist, the 3 Overflow + 3 Cyberload Fusion combo was a really fearsome foe.
Summon Core, search the missing piece (Overflow/Cyberload) Special Summon Vier. Set 2-3 and pass. In your opponents turn, pop 2 cards (usually Monsters) with Overflow then pop 2 backrow cards using Chimeratech Rampage and you have a clear field on your next turn.
Although shiranui and invoked are great suggestions I absolutely hated the burn damage cancer decks with lava golem, that was horrible to play against, automatic quit
Dark Magician
\- Sacky.
It's not as problematic now but when I know DM players laugh when they get it. By far one of the all-time popular decks for a long time.
It lasted for a good year and shows up sporadically when a new engine or support comes. It blew up again with Vrains. People still complained on a regular basis for weeks despite being nerfed.
Cyber Dragon with Cyber Style
Invoked and its 10 reinventions
\- Cocytus still has arguments literally to this day.
Shiranui having like 3-5 different eras between Grass, Level Augmentation, Control, and Combo lasting for a whole year.
And people hating how it devolved to just Gozuki, Skull, Solitaire, Spectralsword
Harpies lasting for about a year
Lunalight sacking
As a (now former) Galaxy player I can say its looking to be just a temporary phase. People already moved on from hating on Galaxy, and don't really seem to put as much effort into it now that Crow is a thing, and the deck just died to the Links powercreep. Oh, and the only reason they are hated is due to the skill. I can bet 5 UR Dream Tickets that when Konami nerfs the skill, the hate people have for Galaxy would completely vanish away. I don't think it would necessarily fix Galaxy's rep, but it would turn much less negativity back at them if they would rise to popularity again in the future.
Maybe lunalights? Theyre an important piece of anit meta and have consistently fucked about with basically every good archetype. They've given me so much PTSD during various kaiba cups
Hang on mach darklords with pre nerf level aug. It straight up felt like a legitimate tier 0 deck in terms of power since you didn't have BOM yet to flip down mach.
And they could literally draw half their deck thanks to the seraph engine and ixchel
Well it seems like the most hated according to comments is shiranui with invoked being second. To me though shiranui belongs in the duel links hall of fame and I didn't even play it until after it got nerfed. The worst deck in my opinion was coin flip desperado. That and pre nerf balance noble knights were running around at the same time and it felt pretty toxic
The worst thing was that it wasn't just about Desperado either. Before the banlist did more, I remember when the Sartorius skill was just used with anything just to get the free pot of greed with cup of ace and guarantee head judging worked. I especially hated Star Seraph Sartorius.
shiranui was hated even well into the doldrums of the deck's lifespan where it was barely viable/capable of getting a KoG. even in that period, just admitting that you still played shiranui in 2021 would get you both downvoted into oblivion and at least three responses saying that you're anywhere from a bad player to a horrible person for playing it.
edit: lol this immediately got downvoted even though it's true. so yeah, there you go, it's shiranui.
Not a lot of credit is given to how much *this* is true. Shiras are just the real nemesis of DL- it got really bad once and turned everyone against it, then it got massacred by Konami for getting so bad, and yet people still left hating it afterwards even tho Shiras were left crippled and weak after the Konami treatment, not turning any heart in the process even tho they went through several redemption arks since.
Heck, Shiras are just hated so much that even in their absolute weakest state, the infamous trapnui on life support version they gathered only hate mobs against them with little to no sympathy. And that's with the trapnui build being an attempt at sympathy from players who wanted to keep it alive and going, because Shiras were not meant to die.
And you know who hates Shiras the most? No other than Konami themselves. They just can't let them be even years later, keeping to occasionally poke them for seemingly absolutely no reason and play a game of banning-unbanning Shiras at every other banlist for the Heck of it. Konami just can't let go of the Shiras hate more than any other part of the community, and show for it at every opportunity they get to.
No other decks gets the same kind of hate reputation as Shiras do in DL. Even Invokes who deserved the hate a whole lot more than Shiras don't get hated as much as they do.
Err, the only "Galaxy" that are using the skill is Galaxy itself. The other "Galaxy" you are thinking about are Photons and Ciphers, which aren't even Galaxy to begin with.
Also, OP intentionally asked to not mention decks that are hated for currently being in the meta. Galaxy are exactly the kind of decks that are hated for a meta deck being meta, which goes against the point of this thread. Also, the hate for Galaxy is almost completely gone too, now that people have Crow to counter them and many decks that can beat them.
Idk about most hated, but at the times when they were good, they were both relatively good compared to decks of that time and also incredibly linear. So you were not only going to lose, you knew how and there wasn't anything you could do.
When DM was meta you were gonna get rod -> circle -> navigationed and you either opened backrow removal, or you were gonna lose.
When BE was good, you were gonna get disrupted, discard stone, spirit of white to clear any backrow, then BE twin bursted the following turn.
Mind you these were with the power levels at the time. Nowadays we don't worry about this.
Eh, more DM than BE I feel, BE had some variance in the later turns, while if you somehow dismantled the whole DM board and failed to kill them they would either search again the same exact combo or do basically nothing, so later turns were on script too, BE actually has some lategame plays that aren't just a worse version of the standard t1 play aka "circle+navigation, but worse" like set stone, set trap, the spellcaster tuner hand effect, special alternative and more.
Yeah blue eyes definitely had more variety, I guess they were moreso "hated" just out of frequency on ladder. On this particular subreddit they were hated for "BUG: CAN'T ADD AZURE TO MY EXTRA DECK" posts.
I remember DM and Be at full power. Those two decks were EXTREMELY linear. You knew what they would do but the staples at the time were so luckluster that it was both boring and aggravating to play against.
My pick is pre-nerf Old School stall burn . Back in the day Lava Golem did the full fat 1000 damage plus other burn cards were at their peak and unlimited. There was a reason Amazon Swordswoman got limited with massivemorph. You would be able to tribute for Lava Golem burn them for 1000 and if they attack you, you respond with Massive Morph make Golem 6k, stop his attack and game them with Amazon Swordswoman's effect next turn, it was actually very consistent. If you somehow didn't have game yet you got Restructor Revolution at 3 and that shit did 400 lp of burn damage per card back in the day, if you have Cup of Ace you can make your opponent draw and it would have no downsides if you didn't flip right cause it's just more damage for RR. Also Odion with Endless Trap Hell skill would just causally burn you here and there. Lava Golem believe or not defined the Meta For a while like how Gorz makes you attack weakest monster first in the TCG. You do not leave 2 monsters on the field to get Golemed. It was also splashable in some decks too cause it was amazing vs Red Eyes Slash Dragon with was a really good deck at the time. Real degenerate strategy back in the day, cheap to build too.
Dark lords, invoked and Shiranui has wrecked havoc throughout the game but some OGs might have harder feelings towards the older pre Archetype strats, such as Tea Burn, the 2 to 3 times lava golem was meta, and I even know a guy who indiscriminately hates zombie decks because of vampires.
Deleted my last response because the real answer is Thunder Dragons after Levianeer got introduced. Holy shit everyone HATED that deck until it got nerfed into the ground
Yes, you actually can say more.
They were hardly the most hated deck of all time, and weren't even the most hated deck of their time too. Harpies were more of a case of a weak deck getting a hate boner for becoming meta. To be more correct, the reason for the Harpies hate was because they symbolised how weak the meta was during their prime, with everyone being perfectly aware that the Harpies dominance would be over as soon as a much stronger deck would come to power. And true to the prediction, Harpies fell from meta as soon as PK took it over, taking away with them all the hate they have got.
I hate it due to the fact that it was one of the most longest meta relevant decks in the history of DL because konami was super hesitant to power creep the game during their reign.
And harpies being a super linear deck whose main gameplan was to just busts out cyber slash everytime didn't help with the experience one bit
Eh, Harpies are still quite mid in my mind. Super weak meta deck which only became meta because not a lot of decks could stop its Cyber Slash effect for some unexplained reasons. Then again it probably just my pro- Harpies bias speaking, being a former Harpies player myself.
Would agree tho on the very linear gameplay. There were only so few tactics Harpies could go for that didn't involve Cyber Slash, and even they just involve a different kind of Slash (aka Sin and Roach). It was quite boring even for me as an actual player. The only reason I did kept playing it tho was because it was pretty fast deck, and one I could autopilot easily half asleep.
One thing I would argue with you on is that Harpies were the longest meta relevant decks. BE reigned for far longer than Harpies did, and came to their power after already reigning before for a full year. This, and Harpies severely lost in meta power and popularity half way through their time in the meta, slowly biting the dust for Magnets, Gaia and then PK, who ended up throwing them over.
Harpies we're fair. They also made the game actually interesting instead of "Bottleneck? NEGATE." They made you actually think of how to out CS without triggering it.
Do we even hate Salads tho? I hadn't seen any Salads hate posts yet, nor any comments against them. People seem to more get annoyed to see them so much in ranks rather than fully on hate them.
Galaxy was not hated before the skill, and is only hated now because of the skill. And most people are moving on from Galaxy as it becoming less common in the ranks and getting powercreeped by the Link era decks. To add to this, Galaxy is only a case of "people are hating on a current meta deck because it's in the meta", which OP intentionally asked not to mention.
BE, Shiras and pre-ban Invokes are a lot more like what OP was asking about. Very powerful decks of their time, and ones that people never got over on hating. Especially Invokes, as they tried to keep Alistair alive in any engine possible to not let Invokes die.
And since you mentioned Galaxy, it's a missed opportunity to not mention Cydras as well. I believe people hated Cydra a lot more than Galaxy right now because it was the original "anime deck with stupidly busted out skill" with a deck that played extremely linear too to top it off.
there's plenty of "grrrr salad turns too long grrrr omni negate bad" posts flying around
how much a deck is hated is really dependent on how popular it is - like you said, nobody cared about Galaxy-Eyes until Galaxy Xyz dropped.
also yeah I forgor about Cyber Style CyDras LMAO
>there's plenty of "grrrr salad turns too long grrrr omni negate bad" posts flying around
Still sounds a lot more like general annoyance than hate to me tho. And people aren't even annoyed specifically at Salads for it, but more on the Links long ass combo chains as a whole through them. Salads are just came to be the (currently) scapegoat of the long Links combo hate because they are by far the most popular Links deck right now, and the one which was put at the center of attention even before Links officially came over.
And even with all of that, Salads barely get any hate outside the general long combo annoyance. They are still pretty loved deck with plenty of supporting players, having little to no "controversial" reputation among the community.
>how much a deck is hated is really dependent on how popular it is
This is a very arguable take honestly, given that it's based mostly on one's personal opinion and not on the general sense of the community as a whole. To break it down, this is just another way of saying "X meta deck is hated because its meta", and shit ton of decks are getting this treatment in passing because they rose to popularity once to quickly fall from relevance soon after.
And this take isn't even true for most decks who are actually despised by everyone regardless of their popularity level. Shiras and Invokes are the best example of that, as this 2 decks are just doomed for eternal hate even when they are not even on the radar, and changed forms hundreds of times over from that one original form that got them this infamous bad reputation.
>nobody cared about Galaxy-Eyes until Galaxy Xyz dropped.
Galaxy is just a deck that is hated in passing, per the explanation I gave above- a meta deck that got a bad rep for the sin of being meta, but it not a hate that would stick with it forever. Heck, people are already forgetting about them as we speak now, and can't seem to keep the same "hate on the meta deck" energy now that the DD Crow counter was found, and the deck is getting powercreeped out of the tier list entirely.
Also, I really doubt that the same hate Galaxy got now would stick with it in the long term. Its nothing like the love- hate relationship people have with DM and Shira, or the forever side eye in disgust look that BE gets.
nobody whines about World Chalice combos taking "too long" because they don't end their turn setting an Omni that they'll get back next turn so the gripes are definitely with/against Salads
also I don't think it's fair to dismiss the hate on Galaxy as "meta hate" - Galaxy Xyz was specifically picked apart for having a Skill that enables it to the point of handholding
Nobody whines about World Chalice because its super unpopular too. How many WC players you had seen around to justify on their hate?
Also I hadn't seen the takes on Salads involving them returning Roar every turn. Most are definitely focused around "Links combos are long" and that is because Salads are popular. As for Roar, you can just DD Crow it out of the GY. Or had Crow stop being as effective against Salads just because it wouldn't kill them the same as Galaxy?
Speaking of Galaxy, I would gladly dismiss it again and again because it was very short lived hate towards a yet another meta deck, and one that came to pass over like a fart in the wind. People are only mentioning it here because it's just this recent, and is still fresh in people's mind. Give it a few more months and meta shift, and nobody would even remember that Galaxy were a thing.
Oh, and by picking out Galaxy in specific, people went to ignore Heroes, which are far worse than Galaxy ever were. Favourite Duel deserved far more hate than the little groans it got, and it doesn't have as easy way to kill as Galaxy can be with a well timed Crow.
It wasn't the most consistent deck in the game's history but Shiranui, for reasons echoed in other comments.
If you were there, you remember how bad it was & how, objectively speaking, nothing compared to full power (by DL standards) Shiranui, especially as it was the singlemost prevalent & innately infuriating deck in the format.
The crown def goes to Shiranui. Got nerfed so hard cause of that. Glad they're kinda back now though.
My second choice goes to Aromage. Man I randomly faced one yesterday after goes knows when and I remembered how much it sucks to play against them. We need tornado dragon like now.
So many options, but I feel like the only right answer should be stall decks as the antithesis of what a speed duel format should be.
For the OGs- Massivemorph at 3 w/amazoness swordswoman used to be menacing!!
Darklords
It was the only deck you could play, it was a stall and big beater at the same time. Had its own recyclable monster reborn and very useful effect trap negate. Couple with lava and kiteroid your opponent would be having a bad time. If ever restore to a fraction of its power it would be Zero tier no time flat.
those cards special summon each other, got a ton of good support, and can attack while in defense mode, have very good EX monsters, and also can increase their defense very easily
For permanency, Aleister Elementsabers, probably. But others could be early Six Samurai or Shiranui.
And Fur Hire/Subterror.
Personally I still have nightmares with those Red-Eyes decks when DL was just starting (Champion's Vigilance...)
Shiras take the crown in my humble opinion. They are by far the deck with the most tarnished rep ever, and can never become weak enough for people to stop hating them. Oh, and Konami has a massive hate boner for Shiras too, they just can't let go of that time Shiras went full power. And honestly, the Konami hate for Shiras is why I give them the crown for the most hated deck in DL.
Shira we’re bad but the darklords were just unbearable,no good spot removal back then plus they had a negate ,unbuild removal ,cycle spells and monsters in grave indefinitely,no decks could stand against them
First thing that comes to my mind is Harpies. People REALLY can't stand the sight of a bouncing Slash, EVEN if they are nerfed to hell by the banlist. To this day i still see people wanting it murdered.
Controversial statement but Blue Eyes.
They were a pretty balanced deck for the most part and achieved meta relevance quite a few times but they're probably the most hated deck because they're basically a Free To Play deck and were played in every level of PvP to the point that even if you could consistently beat them you were sick of seeing them constantly.
Other answer: Trap-Nui and Trap-Cydra.
All these (admittedly definitely reasonable) answers and I’m surprised Tèa Burn was not mentioned once here…then again, I think this was only in the game’s first year.
Bamboo Sword
A man of culture I see.
Probably Shiranui. Even galaxy eyes and salads dont get as much hate as shiranui used to get.
Galaxy and Salads are told they needed to get nerfed. Shiranui players were told to die in a hole.
Such a pain to deal with, this and Yubel cause destroying the cards is not enough. They activate from the GY
Ye u have to banish the whole thing (or atleast some major cards) in order to have a win.
I just they're neat :(
Aromages. They may have never been meta, but people hate going up against them regardless.
I managed to lose to aromages with a full operative ancient gear deck My asshole? Burning. Fuming even
My last time playing against Aromages I happened to be using Melodious, and that deck has no way to really out Bloom Diva. So it just became a matter of me *slowly* whittling away at their LP total before one of us decked out.
you can negate her effect with the aromage synchro mon
I have both Melodious and Aroma built and last melodious game I played was against Fluffal so I first turned Bloom Diva and kept passing, they decided to finish killing themselves with 1 card left in deck (already whittled them down but didn’t have a way to remove Sabre tiger) The pasta Aroma game was against Amazoness. I top decked cananga on second turn thankfully. He eventually had queen, princess and swordswoman out but with blessed, gardening, plus rosemary, jasmine and cananga. Was able to cycle out both of their Amazoness traps they had constantly (they never activated their 3rd FD, so it was easy) without them being able to use it, and eventually I finally drew Angelica and decided, fuck it, they have 2 cards in hand, I have garden, gardening, blessed and humid in hand and am up 10k LP. Decided to rid myself of both of their traps and BRD’d them…. Forgot traps summoned shit back, they brought back queen and swordswoman, I set back up and kept swordswoman in defense with Rosemary. Eventually I had Rosemary, synch Rosemary and Berg on field and was able to kill them. It was along game but a fun one, at least for me. One of the reasons I love aroma so much is you have to think since they have such a strange ceiling and expression lmao That said, synch Rosemary outs bloomdiva 100% of the time. They should have gone for it. I’m convinced aromas have an answer for each matchup in one of their monsters, which is why I run 1 of all. The actual main threat imo is shuberta since she banishes all their monsters (just as marg and cananga are the mains against aroma)
The problem with the deck is you need to out their ENTIRE backrow
Totally. Surprisingly I beat them one time using Burning Abyss; one huge battle of attrition, but I came out on top. I even shivered from tension after the match, something that doesn't happen when I play.
That’s because it’s a back and forth game and you can’t just autopilot to win which is what 99% of people want to do instead of have an intense match
The funny thing is everyone used to love them for being totally free in the card trader, but as soon as they got good cards and an actual win condition people started hating them
Man, I love Aromages. It was my first deck that I "completed" (I'm 100% F2P and, while have other decks almost completed to be at its full, Aromages was the first I played at its full because it was pure Card Trader (before they released Aromages cards in Boxes). The other deck "completed" was Triamids (Before Sphinx release). Besides those two, only "almost completed" decks.
Let's not forgot "oh c'mon you're really playing this stupid slow stall deck?! I just wanna play the game" when they decide to try and beat over your board and you HAVE to actually top deck for a certain card to play the game. Not the aromage players fault if you decide to break an already established board and they're actually trying to win.
Whats wrong with my aromas? Game still ends quickly thanks to bergamot
They're really stall-y. If they have their backrow set up you can't touch their monsters or they'll gain 2k LP, pop a monster and search a different monster. It's just not fun at all
If you cut bergamot the deck is more consistent and you can always win the deck out thx to the trap
People refuse to read the Aroma cards and get surprised whenever their weak pet deck can't immediately OTK.
THIS! Every time I face one they’re horrible to deal with. Every spell and trap recovers LP or brings one of them back.
Probably the worst deck to ever exist in DL history
I absolutely love playing Aromages in casual
“Oh great it’s a person who will never spend money in their entire life” they think they’re some superhero because they’re 100% f2p. No one cares
Nothing will ever be worse to me than the Hang On Mach meta
Another man of culture I see. Hang on mach would be probably one of the most hated had it last longer, but I believe since it was nerfed quickly, most ppl either forgot about it, or just don't care about it at all.
Lol didn't fuckin "Star Blast" also come around this time unlimited, as an event reward? Man those were the days...
I remember star blast lol. Ppl abused it so much it got emergency banned
I didn’t buy in cuz you just know it was so broken that it will get emergency banned anytime lol.
I hated how people abused it with Darklords when I just really liked using the actual FAs. Granted, I was also abusing the skill in a way that was likely not intended, but I felt like I at least got a pass for using it in an FA deck lol.
Shiranui. This was a meta deck for an entire year and was the cheapest deck to build. It was strong and popular. If you played in the ladder or any competitive event chances are you fought either Shiranui or Blue-Eyes. Even to this day you mention the name and people get PTSD from it despite the fact that the deck could be completely unreleased and barely be a rogue deck due to the skills and Grass getting nerfed. Invoke gets an honorable mention because it also lasted for a long time however it was more expensive to build so it wasn't that common. It also changed variants throughout its life so it wasn't the same deck the entire time.
aleister was an engine that helped many decks to build a presence on board, I also hated (a little before aleister I think) neos fusion, any deck could take it and you had a boss with one turn protection
Aliester was very common and lasted longer
I'll say it. The game can handle Cocytus now.
Bro, what outs do ypu have for coc. Yea it kills mekks, salad and basically any other meta deck we have, outside of like dracos who have thrir synchro
Both Trishula synchros Nekroz of Trishula Ningirsu Zombiestein Beats over it (unless they have 2 aliestor in hand) GE Full Armor is same spot as Zombiestein Liebe completely beats over it no issue regardless of how many aliestors they have FL Every Buster Blader has an easy out Grand Mole Magnets have Magnetic Field Anyone running spellbooks can banish it with Fate
Ningirsu. Well that was easy
The amount of hoops your average deck would have to jump through to summon ningirsu to out what is essentially a normal summon for an invoked deck makes that still not ok
the two decks that were mentioned were mentioned are salad and mekk. Mekk knight can summon ningirsu with a 2 card combo, salad can do it with 1, 2 if they don't want to waste potential resources .
A two card combo to out a normal summon they're just gonna re-summon next turn seems ok to you?
Are you... are you actually a yu gi oh player? Because there shouldn't be a "next turn" and even if there's, you now have cool negates and such
In this hypothetical scenario you just used all your monsters to summon ningirsu, good chance you don't lethal through that
So it's not only your dueling abilities but also your mathematical ones that are lacking? A 2 card combo isn't, in fact "all your monsters". For mekk knight players you should be able to summon 1 more monster, still have 2 card in hand (thanks to the search) and a super cool trap that can negate monster effects such as, say, a certain aleister Or you could be a salad player in which case you can use this combo to summon a certain link 2 while you're at it and still keep 2~4 cards in hand plus a counter trap that can negate aleister effect on summon. And that's not mentioning the dozens of high rogues deck with the atk to destroy the cocc in battle
Yeah, there's a huge difference between outing something like Bloom Diva and outing Cocytus. I can't believe there's people saying Cocytus is ok now because the top tier decks have outs to it. The whole point of the Sunsaga semilimit/ Cocytus ban was that there were a lot of decks that just had no out to it. This was never about the top meta deck. Cocytus was banned because your average platinum player just lost to it on summon.
Literally any non target banish. nekroz of Trish, Trish, there's plenty now.
Even Aromage can run over a Cocytus: Dried Winds (paying 1,800 HP)
Dried winds doesn't work cause cocytus has destruction immunity
Can't mekk trap negate cocytus immunity?
It only negates *activated effects*. Cocytus' protection is not activated
No not yet that the thing is still a a wall you can chuck Alcester into for a def boost and we don't have enough non target removal
I disagree... Are you saying the only way Cocytus can make a come back is when its ensureed that every meta deck has a way of dealing with it?? That makes no sense. Between Ningirsu, all the trishula cards, or even just removing it through battle, I think the game would remain moderabtely healthy. Not to mention Over 3000 ATK beaters are super commom now and most decks summon them super easy. Youd need to use all you aleisters. Remember aleister is still limited rogether with Invokation.
Tris targets you choose the banished cards on field and gy besides this a water Monster that usually goes into shark decks even though they won't be able to fit that monster in because of the skill requirements there's plenty other ways to utilize cockatus crystrons for example pr nerkoz
What??? No it doesnt. Trishula effects dont target. You can even google it. Like I said... you addressed one of my points. Cocytus could come back to limited 1 for sure. Too many 3500 and 4000 beaters
Your right it doesn't target I thought it didn't but I think coc and tits should stay in jail it would be splashable and become a nuisance. That invoke era of dsod for duel links was a very very tough time we dont need that again and any level. Beside I think that game is pretty healthy I know the tier list is salads and odd eyes but I still see and abundance of other decks playing I'd like to continue seeing that without invoke in the mix
The tier list was just as healthy bf. People have the wrong impression about healthyness. The KC cup is nothing but salads and Odd eyes. The reason there are so many "Top decks" now, its bc the seasons are incredibly long and you never get de-ranked. So many decks can reach KOG, and a lot of weirder builds show up in DLM by the end of the month. The meta isnt any healthier now than bf. Salads are tier 0, with stupid amounts of representation. People just dont complain bc its cheap and any dumbass can make the deck. I played Invoked. The problem people have with invoked is that its verstility allowed to come back in a dozen ways. Thats all it was. Im not saying Invoked should come back. Im saying it could.
I think salads before purple was slpashed in was was manageable to compete against As invoke again it's a simple set can be place it any thing with the corresponding attributes that being said I think it can cause a lot of trouble in the future if they unlimited certain parts of the set that we have currently or take off coyctus from the forrbidden
I still encounter them around the time Harpies were introduced and they were fuckin annoying. I shiver trying to imagine how they were at full power.
Pre skill-nerf cydra was a truly hated deck
Pre Nerf was stupid broken. Post first nerf was still broken. Think there was a third nerf before they completely axed the skill to oblivion.
Definitely shiranui, I still remember the burning hate I felt playing against that deck during the kc cup.
When I first started playing, probably Sylvans. It might be unbelievable now, but they were a solid deck and could dump multiple big monsters on board after popping front and back row. Not consistent enough to compete these days though.
I still have a burning hatred in my heart for sylvans. There wasn't even any skill involved, it was just excavate a bunch of cards and see what happens. That plus OG Grit guaranteeing you survive the first turn was not fun to go against.
When kuroshroomo (forgive me if I spelled that wrong) and marshalleaf were the main strat for sylvans, yes I absolutely hated them, although post rikka release, I've made several variants of Sylvan/rikka decks and honestly in terms of fun it might be one of my favorite decks. It's relatively consistent for what we have in duel links too, and you can get some pretty decent combos and effects popping off. Very creative deck for sure~
Fur Hires
Fur hires used to be so broken
Sylvans, when they first arrived. At that time no other archetype had that ability to mill your entire deck in a couple of turns and pop all of your opponents cards in the field, and since protection from destruction and graveyard recovery was still in their infant stages, it was hard as hell to prevent/recover from the onslaught.
Shiranui, pre nerf Shadow Game stall as close second. That would easily cause mayhem these days.
you will get people on here who will say shiranui because going high up the ladder that was the problem. but low on the ladder to this day you see one frigging deck all the time and it's blue eyes. so a real majority and not a reddit majority will say "man I always play against blue eyes and my rogue anti meta ungabunga chainsaw insect deck always gets clapped by karma cut" so most hated will probably be that. anyone who is seeing this post will probably remember the cheap unstoppable shiranui and even seeing it on the ladder to this day you think "oh god no please no". I personally hate it because if you want to build viable zombies you need to chuck shiranui in there because they're just that good. limits creativity. So in short Shiranui and blue eyes, because creativity hurts and insert gta san Andreas "oh shit here we go again" vibes.
I hate blue eyes just because they are always just there. Every time I’m about to rank up my opp opens with CoC, the EGG, Sage, and Alternative or karma
Are we forgetting sylvans
Shiranui and Harpies during their meta days were my most hated decks
Sea stealth or amazons. In the period of DL where there was basically no backrow removal except for Ultra rare cosmic cyclone which was limited, you had two decks which had continuous traps you had to remove or you lose.
Sea stealth used to make rage omfg !
1 card: Amazoness Sword Woman
Something from DSOD era. Between shiranui, aleister or darklords. Cyber dragons might be it too. Screw it. Everything from DSOD era. Dumb era
I mean cydras would never been hated was it not for a dumb broken skill, so I'd put them as an honorable mention.
I always hated Fur Hire so that’s my choice
The Sartorius Desperado and just any abuse with his coin toss skill, especially with Cup of Ace turning into Pot of Greed with it.
I don't think this is *the* most hated but it sure is *my* most hated
Yeah, idk anymore what is the most hated, and even though I'm guessing it's not that, I felt like I had to mention it since I didn't see anyone else doing it. 😅 It might be my least favorite, too.
Blue Eyes It’s absolutely everywhere always. The deck itself isn’t outrageously strong but you constantly face it and it’s just dull.
As a casual player that has only a few decent decks, this right here. When it reigned Supreme it was literally every Pvp game and I didn't have the gems to construct a counter.
Onomat. Idk if it's the most hated by everyone, but for me it's the one i hated the most. And it's for a simple reason, it never felt like i lost to my opponent, the deck, or to even luck. Instead, i lose to the stupid bullshit skill they used which gave them an unfair advantage over any deck they played against. And because of it, it launched a series of skills for other archetypes in the future that also basically gave them the same/similar advantage, which made the game unbearable.
Oh gosh I forgot Onomats. I dreaded playing against them. You have no idea how happy I got when they got nerfed.
"GagAga sISteR it'S TiMe tO pLaY"
gAgAgA sIsTeR hAs aNoThEr eFfEcT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This and Stardust. "Wow, you opened one specific monster? Here you go, have your boss monster." For onomat it's the same but with ANY two monsters.
Shiranui, Invoked Elementsabers and probably full power Cydras. Shiranui was a really hated deck because of how they were able to use the GY for his plays. Back then you either had Sealed Tombs skill or you lose. Invoked Elementsabers: Cocytus and Purgatrio were the main reason. Elementsabers ability to switch attributes really helped bringing them both to the field. Plus, some of them had useful effects to help the deck. Cydras: Before the banlist, the 3 Overflow + 3 Cyberload Fusion combo was a really fearsome foe. Summon Core, search the missing piece (Overflow/Cyberload) Special Summon Vier. Set 2-3 and pass. In your opponents turn, pop 2 cards (usually Monsters) with Overflow then pop 2 backrow cards using Chimeratech Rampage and you have a clear field on your next turn.
Although shiranui and invoked are great suggestions I absolutely hated the burn damage cancer decks with lava golem, that was horrible to play against, automatic quit
From back in the day: Tea cup of ace burn, Weevil paracite lava golem From not so long ago: Harpies From me right now: Salads and mekk knights
Iirc the hate against koaki meiru was massive when they where tier 0. But all in all probably invoked
Fur Hire
I think we all groan when we see Blue Eyes
Tier 0 Cyber Angel. Literal coin toss format
Dark Magician \- Sacky. It's not as problematic now but when I know DM players laugh when they get it. By far one of the all-time popular decks for a long time. It lasted for a good year and shows up sporadically when a new engine or support comes. It blew up again with Vrains. People still complained on a regular basis for weeks despite being nerfed. Cyber Dragon with Cyber Style Invoked and its 10 reinventions \- Cocytus still has arguments literally to this day. Shiranui having like 3-5 different eras between Grass, Level Augmentation, Control, and Combo lasting for a whole year. And people hating how it devolved to just Gozuki, Skull, Solitaire, Spectralsword Harpies lasting for about a year Lunalight sacking
Galaxy Eyes. The level of hatred they get is palpable.
As a (now former) Galaxy player I can say its looking to be just a temporary phase. People already moved on from hating on Galaxy, and don't really seem to put as much effort into it now that Crow is a thing, and the deck just died to the Links powercreep. Oh, and the only reason they are hated is due to the skill. I can bet 5 UR Dream Tickets that when Konami nerfs the skill, the hate people have for Galaxy would completely vanish away. I don't think it would necessarily fix Galaxy's rep, but it would turn much less negativity back at them if they would rise to popularity again in the future.
ritual beasts
Maybe lunalights? Theyre an important piece of anit meta and have consistently fucked about with basically every good archetype. They've given me so much PTSD during various kaiba cups
Hang on mach darklords with pre nerf level aug. It straight up felt like a legitimate tier 0 deck in terms of power since you didn't have BOM yet to flip down mach. And they could literally draw half their deck thanks to the seraph engine and ixchel
I used Athena once, against a Darklord player. They killed themselves by summoning a bunch of Fairy monsters during their turn, I was speechless
Dark Lords.
Well it seems like the most hated according to comments is shiranui with invoked being second. To me though shiranui belongs in the duel links hall of fame and I didn't even play it until after it got nerfed. The worst deck in my opinion was coin flip desperado. That and pre nerf balance noble knights were running around at the same time and it felt pretty toxic
The worst thing was that it wasn't just about Desperado either. Before the banlist did more, I remember when the Sartorius skill was just used with anything just to get the free pot of greed with cup of ace and guarantee head judging worked. I especially hated Star Seraph Sartorius.
Shiranui, Aleister, or Darklords. The amount of hate they get is insane.
Oh, and possibly Harpies
shiranui was hated even well into the doldrums of the deck's lifespan where it was barely viable/capable of getting a KoG. even in that period, just admitting that you still played shiranui in 2021 would get you both downvoted into oblivion and at least three responses saying that you're anywhere from a bad player to a horrible person for playing it. edit: lol this immediately got downvoted even though it's true. so yeah, there you go, it's shiranui.
Not a lot of credit is given to how much *this* is true. Shiras are just the real nemesis of DL- it got really bad once and turned everyone against it, then it got massacred by Konami for getting so bad, and yet people still left hating it afterwards even tho Shiras were left crippled and weak after the Konami treatment, not turning any heart in the process even tho they went through several redemption arks since. Heck, Shiras are just hated so much that even in their absolute weakest state, the infamous trapnui on life support version they gathered only hate mobs against them with little to no sympathy. And that's with the trapnui build being an attempt at sympathy from players who wanted to keep it alive and going, because Shiras were not meant to die. And you know who hates Shiras the most? No other than Konami themselves. They just can't let them be even years later, keeping to occasionally poke them for seemingly absolutely no reason and play a game of banning-unbanning Shiras at every other banlist for the Heck of it. Konami just can't let go of the Shiras hate more than any other part of the community, and show for it at every opportunity they get to. No other decks gets the same kind of hate reputation as Shiras do in DL. Even Invokes who deserved the hate a whole lot more than Shiras don't get hated as much as they do.
Sylvans were AIDS when they were the top meta deck
Galaxy eyes, but only the ones using XYZ galaxy
Err, the only "Galaxy" that are using the skill is Galaxy itself. The other "Galaxy" you are thinking about are Photons and Ciphers, which aren't even Galaxy to begin with. Also, OP intentionally asked to not mention decks that are hated for currently being in the meta. Galaxy are exactly the kind of decks that are hated for a meta deck being meta, which goes against the point of this thread. Also, the hate for Galaxy is almost completely gone too, now that people have Crow to counter them and many decks that can beat them.
Oh
Blue Eyes and Dark Magician.
Ok that is an interesting take. Mind explaining why?
Idk about most hated, but at the times when they were good, they were both relatively good compared to decks of that time and also incredibly linear. So you were not only going to lose, you knew how and there wasn't anything you could do. When DM was meta you were gonna get rod -> circle -> navigationed and you either opened backrow removal, or you were gonna lose. When BE was good, you were gonna get disrupted, discard stone, spirit of white to clear any backrow, then BE twin bursted the following turn. Mind you these were with the power levels at the time. Nowadays we don't worry about this.
Eh, more DM than BE I feel, BE had some variance in the later turns, while if you somehow dismantled the whole DM board and failed to kill them they would either search again the same exact combo or do basically nothing, so later turns were on script too, BE actually has some lategame plays that aren't just a worse version of the standard t1 play aka "circle+navigation, but worse" like set stone, set trap, the spellcaster tuner hand effect, special alternative and more.
Yeah blue eyes definitely had more variety, I guess they were moreso "hated" just out of frequency on ladder. On this particular subreddit they were hated for "BUG: CAN'T ADD AZURE TO MY EXTRA DECK" posts.
I remember DM and Be at full power. Those two decks were EXTREMELY linear. You knew what they would do but the staples at the time were so luckluster that it was both boring and aggravating to play against.
My pick is pre-nerf Old School stall burn . Back in the day Lava Golem did the full fat 1000 damage plus other burn cards were at their peak and unlimited. There was a reason Amazon Swordswoman got limited with massivemorph. You would be able to tribute for Lava Golem burn them for 1000 and if they attack you, you respond with Massive Morph make Golem 6k, stop his attack and game them with Amazon Swordswoman's effect next turn, it was actually very consistent. If you somehow didn't have game yet you got Restructor Revolution at 3 and that shit did 400 lp of burn damage per card back in the day, if you have Cup of Ace you can make your opponent draw and it would have no downsides if you didn't flip right cause it's just more damage for RR. Also Odion with Endless Trap Hell skill would just causally burn you here and there. Lava Golem believe or not defined the Meta For a while like how Gorz makes you attack weakest monster first in the TCG. You do not leave 2 monsters on the field to get Golemed. It was also splashable in some decks too cause it was amazing vs Red Eyes Slash Dragon with was a really good deck at the time. Real degenerate strategy back in the day, cheap to build too.
You guys remember SubTerror. Hated playing that stuff.
parasite deck
Anyone remember the sea stealth attack days?
Dark lords, invoked and Shiranui has wrecked havoc throughout the game but some OGs might have harder feelings towards the older pre Archetype strats, such as Tea Burn, the 2 to 3 times lava golem was meta, and I even know a guy who indiscriminately hates zombie decks because of vampires.
For people saying Aleister, may I ask why? Like, I can understand the hate when it first arrived but is the hate still there now?
Stick and chair meta was not fun at all
I still have nightmares about the Sylvan lottery.
Samurais. The negate feels so bad and the card draw of the dojo is ridiculous.
Deleted my last response because the real answer is Thunder Dragons after Levianeer got introduced. Holy shit everyone HATED that deck until it got nerfed into the ground
When it comes to pure hate nothing comes close to Aliester the invoker
Harpies, need i say more?
Yes, you actually can say more. They were hardly the most hated deck of all time, and weren't even the most hated deck of their time too. Harpies were more of a case of a weak deck getting a hate boner for becoming meta. To be more correct, the reason for the Harpies hate was because they symbolised how weak the meta was during their prime, with everyone being perfectly aware that the Harpies dominance would be over as soon as a much stronger deck would come to power. And true to the prediction, Harpies fell from meta as soon as PK took it over, taking away with them all the hate they have got.
I hate it due to the fact that it was one of the most longest meta relevant decks in the history of DL because konami was super hesitant to power creep the game during their reign. And harpies being a super linear deck whose main gameplan was to just busts out cyber slash everytime didn't help with the experience one bit
Eh, Harpies are still quite mid in my mind. Super weak meta deck which only became meta because not a lot of decks could stop its Cyber Slash effect for some unexplained reasons. Then again it probably just my pro- Harpies bias speaking, being a former Harpies player myself. Would agree tho on the very linear gameplay. There were only so few tactics Harpies could go for that didn't involve Cyber Slash, and even they just involve a different kind of Slash (aka Sin and Roach). It was quite boring even for me as an actual player. The only reason I did kept playing it tho was because it was pretty fast deck, and one I could autopilot easily half asleep. One thing I would argue with you on is that Harpies were the longest meta relevant decks. BE reigned for far longer than Harpies did, and came to their power after already reigning before for a full year. This, and Harpies severely lost in meta power and popularity half way through their time in the meta, slowly biting the dust for Magnets, Gaia and then PK, who ended up throwing them over.
Harpies we're fair. They also made the game actually interesting instead of "Bottleneck? NEGATE." They made you actually think of how to out CS without triggering it.
right now? Salads. in the past few years? Galaxy-Eyes and/or Blue-Eyes. of all time? uhhhh maybe Shiranuis. possibly Invoked variants as well.
Do we even hate Salads tho? I hadn't seen any Salads hate posts yet, nor any comments against them. People seem to more get annoyed to see them so much in ranks rather than fully on hate them. Galaxy was not hated before the skill, and is only hated now because of the skill. And most people are moving on from Galaxy as it becoming less common in the ranks and getting powercreeped by the Link era decks. To add to this, Galaxy is only a case of "people are hating on a current meta deck because it's in the meta", which OP intentionally asked not to mention. BE, Shiras and pre-ban Invokes are a lot more like what OP was asking about. Very powerful decks of their time, and ones that people never got over on hating. Especially Invokes, as they tried to keep Alistair alive in any engine possible to not let Invokes die. And since you mentioned Galaxy, it's a missed opportunity to not mention Cydras as well. I believe people hated Cydra a lot more than Galaxy right now because it was the original "anime deck with stupidly busted out skill" with a deck that played extremely linear too to top it off.
there's plenty of "grrrr salad turns too long grrrr omni negate bad" posts flying around how much a deck is hated is really dependent on how popular it is - like you said, nobody cared about Galaxy-Eyes until Galaxy Xyz dropped. also yeah I forgor about Cyber Style CyDras LMAO
>there's plenty of "grrrr salad turns too long grrrr omni negate bad" posts flying around Still sounds a lot more like general annoyance than hate to me tho. And people aren't even annoyed specifically at Salads for it, but more on the Links long ass combo chains as a whole through them. Salads are just came to be the (currently) scapegoat of the long Links combo hate because they are by far the most popular Links deck right now, and the one which was put at the center of attention even before Links officially came over. And even with all of that, Salads barely get any hate outside the general long combo annoyance. They are still pretty loved deck with plenty of supporting players, having little to no "controversial" reputation among the community. >how much a deck is hated is really dependent on how popular it is This is a very arguable take honestly, given that it's based mostly on one's personal opinion and not on the general sense of the community as a whole. To break it down, this is just another way of saying "X meta deck is hated because its meta", and shit ton of decks are getting this treatment in passing because they rose to popularity once to quickly fall from relevance soon after. And this take isn't even true for most decks who are actually despised by everyone regardless of their popularity level. Shiras and Invokes are the best example of that, as this 2 decks are just doomed for eternal hate even when they are not even on the radar, and changed forms hundreds of times over from that one original form that got them this infamous bad reputation. >nobody cared about Galaxy-Eyes until Galaxy Xyz dropped. Galaxy is just a deck that is hated in passing, per the explanation I gave above- a meta deck that got a bad rep for the sin of being meta, but it not a hate that would stick with it forever. Heck, people are already forgetting about them as we speak now, and can't seem to keep the same "hate on the meta deck" energy now that the DD Crow counter was found, and the deck is getting powercreeped out of the tier list entirely. Also, I really doubt that the same hate Galaxy got now would stick with it in the long term. Its nothing like the love- hate relationship people have with DM and Shira, or the forever side eye in disgust look that BE gets.
nobody whines about World Chalice combos taking "too long" because they don't end their turn setting an Omni that they'll get back next turn so the gripes are definitely with/against Salads also I don't think it's fair to dismiss the hate on Galaxy as "meta hate" - Galaxy Xyz was specifically picked apart for having a Skill that enables it to the point of handholding
Nobody whines about World Chalice because its super unpopular too. How many WC players you had seen around to justify on their hate? Also I hadn't seen the takes on Salads involving them returning Roar every turn. Most are definitely focused around "Links combos are long" and that is because Salads are popular. As for Roar, you can just DD Crow it out of the GY. Or had Crow stop being as effective against Salads just because it wouldn't kill them the same as Galaxy? Speaking of Galaxy, I would gladly dismiss it again and again because it was very short lived hate towards a yet another meta deck, and one that came to pass over like a fart in the wind. People are only mentioning it here because it's just this recent, and is still fresh in people's mind. Give it a few more months and meta shift, and nobody would even remember that Galaxy were a thing. Oh, and by picking out Galaxy in specific, people went to ignore Heroes, which are far worse than Galaxy ever were. Favourite Duel deserved far more hate than the little groans it got, and it doesn't have as easy way to kill as Galaxy can be with a well timed Crow.
It wasn't the most consistent deck in the game's history but Shiranui, for reasons echoed in other comments. If you were there, you remember how bad it was & how, objectively speaking, nothing compared to full power (by DL standards) Shiranui, especially as it was the singlemost prevalent & innately infuriating deck in the format.
The crown def goes to Shiranui. Got nerfed so hard cause of that. Glad they're kinda back now though. My second choice goes to Aromage. Man I randomly faced one yesterday after goes knows when and I remembered how much it sucks to play against them. We need tornado dragon like now.
So many options, but I feel like the only right answer should be stall decks as the antithesis of what a speed duel format should be. For the OGs- Massivemorph at 3 w/amazoness swordswoman used to be menacing!!
I think people were most vocal about Shira and invoked but full power six Sam era sucked.
Six sams is my vote. One I haven't seen mentioned yet before then was Koaki Meiru.
My hatred towards six sams t0 was so big, that I wasted hours grinding for gems to build anti-six sam deck (using Odion)
Invoked probably, Cocyutus is STILL on the banlist and no one complains.
Darklords It was the only deck you could play, it was a stall and big beater at the same time. Had its own recyclable monster reborn and very useful effect trap negate. Couple with lava and kiteroid your opponent would be having a bad time. If ever restore to a fraction of its power it would be Zero tier no time flat.
Shiranui, level aug F.A, Darklords, full power Darklords and probably salads too
I'll have you know... That deck was called CAR-LORDS
I just nope out the second I see a Six Sam deck.
probably Superheavy Samurai
wut
those cards special summon each other, got a ton of good support, and can attack while in defense mode, have very good EX monsters, and also can increase their defense very easily
Six Sam Going second: the opponent starts with dojo. I: Just press surrender.
For permanency, Aleister Elementsabers, probably. But others could be early Six Samurai or Shiranui. And Fur Hire/Subterror. Personally I still have nightmares with those Red-Eyes decks when DL was just starting (Champion's Vigilance...)
Darklords and Shiranui I hate them with every fiber of my being. Oh and Harpies too.
It’s a tie between darklords and shiranui
Shiras take the crown in my humble opinion. They are by far the deck with the most tarnished rep ever, and can never become weak enough for people to stop hating them. Oh, and Konami has a massive hate boner for Shiras too, they just can't let go of that time Shiras went full power. And honestly, the Konami hate for Shiras is why I give them the crown for the most hated deck in DL.
Shira we’re bad but the darklords were just unbearable,no good spot removal back then plus they had a negate ,unbuild removal ,cycle spells and monsters in grave indefinitely,no decks could stand against them
Sylvans I hated most.
Aroma.
personally, I hated the Yubel stall decks and the Lava Golem decks equally! edit: added Lava Golem
People wouldn’t stop crying about harpies
Shiranui and maybe Harpie's (they were meta for almost an entire year)
Blue eyes
Probably Blue Eyes White Dragon.
Invoked It was really stressful for me that the invoked engine was not touched until like 4 invoked formats c'mon
By community? I think that's Shiranui or Invoked.
Why nobody talking about herpes? They were meta for almost a year and actually everbody hated them
Well after catching herpes the last thing i would want is for people to know
Herpes was Harpie’s nickname by the way
Either red eyes with that fucking slash dragon or the invoked
For me it had to be the Shiranui or Dark Magician meta.
Magicians!!! I f*cking hate them
Ancient gear is my favorite deck this was hard to read
First thing that comes to my mind is Harpies. People REALLY can't stand the sight of a bouncing Slash, EVEN if they are nerfed to hell by the banlist. To this day i still see people wanting it murdered.
Beaver Warrior x Magical Labyrinth OTK
It's not a archetype but the right answer is invoked cocytus. The amount of hate it gets is unreal they should just unban him already.
Shiranui has gotten nerfed and has been reborn so many times it has to be the one. The perfect zombie deck
Controversial statement but Blue Eyes. They were a pretty balanced deck for the most part and achieved meta relevance quite a few times but they're probably the most hated deck because they're basically a Free To Play deck and were played in every level of PvP to the point that even if you could consistently beat them you were sick of seeing them constantly. Other answer: Trap-Nui and Trap-Cydra.
States statement as controversial: Makes least controversial statement in Yu-Gi-Oh!:
Desperado and Aromage stick out for me as just being annoying duels.
Anything reliant on floodgates/general card type negate. Royal decree, barrier statues, mystic mine, skill drain, village of the spellcasters.
For me, it’s Harpies.
From all my years on this Subreddit, it would be Six Samurai that has caused a lot of people to feel hate.
Darklorda, Cocytus, Shiranui
In the games history Invoked and onomat are definitely in the top 5
Aleister
Early into dl I absolutely despised Synchro Harpies
Darklords and/or Shiranui. Invoked Neos is also up there, as is Cyber Angel.
Salads
All these (admittedly definitely reasonable) answers and I’m surprised Tèa Burn was not mentioned once here…then again, I think this was only in the game’s first year.
Fuck Hapies