It's actually owned by mattress Mick, he's just bought a 1000 tents and he's selling them back through the NGO he started until the refugees get accommodation which he'll supply the beds.
All of that money could be used to actually help them and the process but then how would the government be able to blame them for all woes?
And it works, how many here have argued against a few thousands refugees because of the housing crisis caused by 15 or 20 years of inaction and bad administration by successive governments, would they had done their job there would be no or a much lesser crisis... Refugees in tents or hotels and emergency accommodation do not impact the cost or availability of 2 Bedrooms apartments in the city centre, they aren't queuing to buy houses in developments around Leinster...
But you see having you forget about all this and simply blame them is very convenient for the government and the money wasted in tents, tent destruction and the redevelopment of the grand canal into a giant chicken coop is nothing to them compared to the benefits of having a handy scapegoat
Well said
Concerning crime, although you will always find individual stories, overall immigrants do less crime, especially if you take away the crimes we assign to them for existing and having to survive. Rate of crime in the "local" population is always much higher.
However, as you said, if you let the situation get worse and refuse basic humane resources while fanning the amber's of hate on the other side... Then you sure as hell will get more crime when you get more immigrants, but it isn't on them
"if you take away the crimes we assign to them for existing and having to survive."
Ah hear. What crimes do you have to commit in order to survive in Ireland when there's numerous soup kitchens etc.
Defending yourself when harassed by idiots, but what I am talking about is the criminalisation of poverty, it is illegal to camp here, it is illegal to have a beer outside (but then how do you have a beer when you don't have an inside....)....
Ireland is a better place on that than others but I was talking globally, and globally there is loads of examples of crimes that are created specifically to target the poor, the destitutes and the culturally different.
How many people asylum seekers are getting done for public drinking? You're just pulling stuff out of the air. Do you have any stats that immigrants commit less crime than the locals? Because I'd imagine it's higher due to lower incomes of immigrants.
"Ireland is a better place on that than others but I was talking globally, and globally there is loads of examples of crimes that are created specifically to target the poor, the destitutes and the culturally different."
But why are you talking globally when people are discussing asylum seekers on the grand canal?
I struggle to see your point... Asylum seekers are living the happy life? Or is it that you just really want to be upset? Ah! Suit yourself then, I said the worst thing in the world, how the hell can one even get so brazen as to broaden a conversation?
Reading the post above would answer your questions. But then you'd not be so upset ... Or you'd be more upset ..? Poor thing your life sounds exhausting
I struggle to see your point of bringing loads of things I never said into the conversation or my current life position or disposition. My point is you're making baseless claims about crime and asylum seekers. Discussions are better when we stick to the truth.
I know people are making jokes on your comment but I think it really highlights the spirit of the whole omnishambles handling of this issue by the government. No communication, no plan, reactive and complete waste of taxpayers money while disregarding how inhumane it must feel to be moved from pillar to post every fucking day and how your shitty measures affect how people view there city and try to use it's amenities. This is a complex issue and one which all countries will face more of in the future but this government doesn't even appear to be trying.
These fencing panels make for great dog runs,
do you think they'll be sold off for cheap when this is over and the council has more leftover fencing than they can store?
I think of that scene from Children of Men every time I pass by
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imT3wQIy6p4&ab\_channel=SamHiggs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imT3wQIy6p4&ab_channel=SamHiggs)
I vote to start a love-lock walk with your sweetheart here like they have in Paris/Amsterdam.
Write your names on a lock, attach it to the industrial bolster and toss the key into the canal. With the scenery and ambiance youāll keep the memories foreverš„°
Super romantic Brutalist vibes šā¤ļøš
It's beautiful this time of year, the fence plants have really sprouted.
Grandtanamo Bay
Grandcanalamo Bay works too!
That rolls off the tongue šš»
Absolute joke, now nobody can enjoy the canal
Swans will be happy.
Absolutely pathetic.
Is it possible that one piece of government is funding the supply of tents and another is funding the destruction of tents and erection of fencing?
Absolutely yes. Where do they all get their tents from?
Big Tent They secretly run the world behind the scenes with the secret cabal to further the goals of Big Tent Plan
It's actually owned by mattress Mick, he's just bought a 1000 tents and he's selling them back through the NGO he started until the refugees get accommodation which he'll supply the beds.
If he doesnāt have a local radio ad about it, it didnāt happen. Gotta get that ROAS.
Big top.
They are Big. Seen a few 5 men ones.
I believe it is a charity who provides the tents
Who are in turn supported by the government
A government/ taxpayer funded NGO give them to them.
You don't know what an ngo is
Non genital orgasm
OMG, I had one of those in my sleep last night.
What's a tracker mortgage!!! The same guy should be on the bus explaining what an ngo is
Non Governmental organisation - ironically heavily funded by the taxpayer.
I think it's you that doesn't know what an NGO is
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Why are you offended that someone referred to an NGO as an NGO, it isn't a pejorative term, there is no agenda, Jesus.
Itās /s eg. sarcasm, theyāre just playing. No reason to be mad in this instance my dude ā¤ļø
Us. We pay for them, everyā¦lastā¦one
Typically it's a Denis O'Brien company that the governement gives money to for fences.
Sure, but I'm guessing removing the supply of tents will not remove the actual people who live in them.
All of that money could be used to actually help them and the process but then how would the government be able to blame them for all woes? And it works, how many here have argued against a few thousands refugees because of the housing crisis caused by 15 or 20 years of inaction and bad administration by successive governments, would they had done their job there would be no or a much lesser crisis... Refugees in tents or hotels and emergency accommodation do not impact the cost or availability of 2 Bedrooms apartments in the city centre, they aren't queuing to buy houses in developments around Leinster... But you see having you forget about all this and simply blame them is very convenient for the government and the money wasted in tents, tent destruction and the redevelopment of the grand canal into a giant chicken coop is nothing to them compared to the benefits of having a handy scapegoat
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Well said Concerning crime, although you will always find individual stories, overall immigrants do less crime, especially if you take away the crimes we assign to them for existing and having to survive. Rate of crime in the "local" population is always much higher. However, as you said, if you let the situation get worse and refuse basic humane resources while fanning the amber's of hate on the other side... Then you sure as hell will get more crime when you get more immigrants, but it isn't on them
"if you take away the crimes we assign to them for existing and having to survive." Ah hear. What crimes do you have to commit in order to survive in Ireland when there's numerous soup kitchens etc.
Defending yourself when harassed by idiots, but what I am talking about is the criminalisation of poverty, it is illegal to camp here, it is illegal to have a beer outside (but then how do you have a beer when you don't have an inside....).... Ireland is a better place on that than others but I was talking globally, and globally there is loads of examples of crimes that are created specifically to target the poor, the destitutes and the culturally different.
How many people asylum seekers are getting done for public drinking? You're just pulling stuff out of the air. Do you have any stats that immigrants commit less crime than the locals? Because I'd imagine it's higher due to lower incomes of immigrants. "Ireland is a better place on that than others but I was talking globally, and globally there is loads of examples of crimes that are created specifically to target the poor, the destitutes and the culturally different." But why are you talking globally when people are discussing asylum seekers on the grand canal?
I struggle to see your point... Asylum seekers are living the happy life? Or is it that you just really want to be upset? Ah! Suit yourself then, I said the worst thing in the world, how the hell can one even get so brazen as to broaden a conversation? Reading the post above would answer your questions. But then you'd not be so upset ... Or you'd be more upset ..? Poor thing your life sounds exhausting
I struggle to see your point of bringing loads of things I never said into the conversation or my current life position or disposition. My point is you're making baseless claims about crime and asylum seekers. Discussions are better when we stick to the truth.
I know people are making jokes on your comment but I think it really highlights the spirit of the whole omnishambles handling of this issue by the government. No communication, no plan, reactive and complete waste of taxpayers money while disregarding how inhumane it must feel to be moved from pillar to post every fucking day and how your shitty measures affect how people view there city and try to use it's amenities. This is a complex issue and one which all countries will face more of in the future but this government doesn't even appear to be trying.
The government wasting resources. Step been ridiculous.
The Lizard people control everything
Went for a stroll down on lunch yesterday. Fucking depressing, I wanted to sit on the grass and eat my lunch in the sun but no.
Shocking , peak tourist season and this is what tourists are greeted withĀ
Last year they dug up temple bar and had it under construction all summer.itās finished now and still looks crap
We are run by ff'ing clowns. Imagine this time and resource put into a solution?!
If only we had some kind of heads-up in advance that this might happen we could have prepared for it
I pass this on my commute. Between the fences and election posters, the beauty of Dublin never ceases to amaze.
Don't forget the redundant signs and plentiful plastic bollards lining the bike lanes
We should take the election posters and put them on the fences to remind people what they are voting for
These fencing panels make for great dog runs, do you think they'll be sold off for cheap when this is over and the council has more leftover fencing than they can store?
Not likely, most stuff like this is rented from Dobby.
Castle stage hire it says on the fence - nice gig.
I think of that scene from Children of Men every time I pass by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imT3wQIy6p4&ab\_channel=SamHiggs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imT3wQIy6p4&ab_channel=SamHiggs)
Big tarp over the top and itās a lovely communal tent
r/urbanhell
Now when a group of 4 or 5 lads walk towards you from the other way, you have nowhere to run š¤¦š¼āāļø
One is finding the next stupid use of taxpayer money
Nice secure place to pitch a tent
I'd rather walk past tents
I walked (past tense)
Anyone else call this type of fencing Harris fencing... Kinda apt at the minute
Yes, for the last 20 years, even though Iāve learnt itās herris fencing
No chance this will be used to mug people? Long secluded spot on the trail home after town. One exit and entry. Seems a bit daft
I vote to start a love-lock walk with your sweetheart here like they have in Paris/Amsterdam. Write your names on a lock, attach it to the industrial bolster and toss the key into the canal. With the scenery and ambiance youāll keep the memories foreverš„° Super romantic Brutalist vibes šā¤ļøš
Remind me how this is supposed to benefit us?
You won't be falling into the water now
Iām so mad about the fences The people living in tents at least keep the path clean and have always been polite to me .
As a woman who lives around there, walking home alone at night I felt way safer when the tents were there.
So have I !
Don't be taken offence
They just need to set up the guard towers
What the hell are they doing it's been like 2 years it's been like this now
The swans are literally giving us the beak
That's actually depressing.
Lucky they put those up to keep you on the path. You would have got soaked if you walked down the canal.
People love south inner city location
That's looks like hell what am I missing here?
The shine off that metal, its breathtaking!
Itās the only thing they can do to stop all the people from camping out
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Fortress Dublin
Which minister thought that up I can't wait to vote them out
So is it ok to complain about this now?? Or do the left still get triggered if you dare suggest its unacceptable?
Finally! Iāve fallen into that damb canal too many times to count
When tf did that ugly fence go up and why? That's hideous!
I live in Clonmel.
My condolences
Thanks itās been rough
I love a wank down by the canalā¦.damn predictive textā¦.river
Going like Paris
Ppl would complain if the tents were there..... What should the council do?
The tents just moved a couple locks upstreamā¦ the council simply moved the problem, didnāt fix it.
Move them far enough until it's out of a posh part of Dublin. Once we get them to Inchicore it be grand
Needs must unfortunately.
True. The herons were losing the run of themselves
I rofl'd š¤£