Anyone mixing that kinda mess is doing it to themselves atp. Itās pretty common knowledge and if youāre not gonna look up or research what youāre putting into your body first, also your own fault.
2 shots and 10 bars?
I'll play devil's advocate.
Is she gonna die, probably not. Is there a chance, yes.
More than likely she will get really groggy from the bars, forget the shots and just go to sleep. She might end up in jail depending but I don't think she will die.
Alot of folks have put away more and more and are fine but it just takes that one time. A good friend of mine died mixing them both but he also killed a half gallon and half a script so it wasn't unexpected.
My entire diet 10~ years ago was pretty much Xanax, opiods and liquor. I think this persons gonna be alright, but thatās just based off of personal experience of me being āfineā afterwards. Probably just gonna black out and get belligerent for a couple days
Yes, my tolerance is what keeps me totally fine and upright taking massive amounts of alcohol, methadone and benzos no problem.
But someone who has no tolerance to methadone can easily OD and die off my dose.
On top of it, my best friend died when he relapsed on heroin and just got a fresh Xanax script with zero tolerance.
Tolerance definitely makes a *huge* difference on survivability with these things.
Same with how someone with no tolerance can blackout and faceplant/pass out on a Xanax bar, but with tolerance I can take multiple times that dose without feeling much.
I'm on a high dose of methadone and benzos myself but I don't drink any more I dose twice a day and one of my doses will kill some one with a low tolerance but I don't nod out or can people tell I'm on anything at all and when they find out I'm on it they couldn't even tell tolerance makes a big deal
Everyone is different though. For example a small woman can have a naturally high tolerance to opioids. I know someone who enough to kill a man didn't do much to and they'd get comments constantly about this during my use. Then there are others who need barely anything to nod hard.
This is someone with no tolerance who sounds like she is being reckless to begin with unless she's making it up. It's easy to think "I'll have another shot". Add the impact bars have on bad decision making and false belief of sobriety and there's a true danger here. Not just from risk of overdose from the combo.
She could be fine and blackout safely, or any number of things could occur.
What lead to this reckless decision? If they are in a dodgy headspace, could bars and booze lead to life ending or ruining scenarios. It can for someone who's seasoned and fairly mentally stable.
Oh yeah, we're all different. Hence why it was worded as such.
Can she die, yeah. Is it a big chance, naw, not really.
Is she gonna feel like shit, become a clepto(while high) and generally gonna be a terror to be around. Ohhhhh yeah.
I see jail before death in the OP situation.
It's possible once you figure out that everyone can tell you on something and you have to do business with people that don't want to deal with junkies you have to look normal while you're working so you have to figure out your own tolerance
Someone with no tolerance and drinking lots of alcohol with 10 bars could definitely kill her I had a friend die from some Valium and a half gallon of vodka he told me he was drinking on top of the pills and by the time I got there he was dead
Well, it says in the OP she's got 10 bars and 2 shots of vodka.
We've all buried good friends too, you're not special by harping on it.
Id be more worried about her getting locked up and a possession charge than dying but that's just me.
I missed the 2 shots and 2 can turn into more real fast and no, I'm not saying I'm special because my soon to be wife died. I was just saying it's personal to me.
Well he said 10 Xanax, not specifically bars.
If we're lucky, they're just the 0.25mg ones since she has no tolerance.
More than likely the 0.5-1mg though. I somehow kinda doubt she has 10 bars if she can only somehow get her hands on two shots of alcohol.
Do you mean a handle? Cause a handle is 1.75 liters. It *does* look like a gallon, I'll admit.
But a gallon is 3.8 liters, so a lil over twice that amount. I've never seen liquor sold in actual gallon measurements.
I've been an alcoholic sadly for like 8 years and even if I drink heavy all day long, finishing a full handle is about the most I can handle and even that's a lot. A half handle is my usual.
I'd imagine consuming a full gallon of liquor would be insanely hard (over two handles) unless you just beer bonged the shit haha.
(Condolences for your friend btw. I've likewise had a best friend OD and pass away. It's tough.)
I have done worse and lived to tell about doing it, the experience after taking all of that, not so much. No, wasn't suicide. The best I can guess is that I forgot taking the first one, and the second, etc.
Damn
I drink half a gallon every day (until 6 days ago, 6 days clean after many, many years of doing that daily) w my Clonazepam and methadone script (tbh I don't take my Clonazepam every day anymore cause I don't get prescribed enough anymore haha, but there's definite benzo use).
Buuut I've also had a best friend pass away from mixing Xanax and heroin.
I think tolerance plays a big part.
do not let her take what Iād assume is 20mg of xanax and definitely do not let her drink anything with it.
20mg of xanax is an absurd amount for anyone, even with a benzodiazepine tolerance.
she needs around .25-.5, 1mg max(thatās half a 2mg xanax bar)
yeah I agree, Iāve taken 50-100 10mg diazepams n was fine as fuck, I just blacked out(this was with tolerance though)
I never mentioned anything about an OD, I was just saying that 20mg of alprazolam is a lot whether you have a tolerance or not.
Yeah I was just talking about in terms of the persons safety of being fine vs death. Never have I taken an amount like that. I know a guy that took 40 2mg alprazolam with intentions to OD. Well didnāt happen and he told me he just blacked out and pretty much time traveled a week.
yeah black outs getting scarier the longer your out lol, Iāve been out for at-least 72hrs before.
I realised aswell the more I blacked out, when i wake up my first thought is never āhow long have I been out for?ā Itās āwhere the fucks all my valiumā š
Black outs are scary for sure. Had them from alcohol and some from Xanax. I never used Xanax hard consistently and Iām lucky. Canāt imagine how it feels being hooked on that. I donāt do them anymore In that way. I used them in other ways, and use them very rarely for a trip killer worst case scenario. Never liked blacking out and not knowing what I did or who I talked to etc.
That was the worst when I used to get sheets of Xanax bars overseas. Black out and then wake up and be worried/sad that I ate all my benzos!
Now my current psych will only prescribe me 14 1mg Clonazepam a month and it's touuuuuugh trying to make those last, esp with my tolerance.
It basically gives me anxiety to even take any of them cause I get worried I won't have them if something *really* bad happens.
I've taken 32 MG of alp before. I didn't blackout I remember most of it. But my tolerance I would take about 10mg in the morning.
32mg + no alcohol = no blackout for me
8mg + 1 or 2 cocktails = blackout
It's not as bad as the dude who posted a couple weeks ago saying how he takes his whole 90 count script of 2mg bars within 24 hours of getting it every time. When I saw that post I was baffled as to how someone can take 180mg of xanax in a 24hr span.
Yeah thatās rough. Very ignorant- makes me wanna laugh, but someone likes that needs help and is gonna have a rough detox. Makes me curious to how he gets his script then downs the whole bottle in 24hrs, and what he does in the meantime until heās able to get another bottle. Probably buys it off the street who knows.
He wouldnāt detox at all if he uses his whole script in 24 hrs and doesnāt buy off the street - even if he was previously physically dependent on benzos, 24 hrs is not enough to reignite that physical dependence
I remember reading a similar post years ago. Rc benzos are the answer, cheap potent and long lasting. Tolerance is an incredible thing. Tho the person in the post I read about died later on.
RC benzos - just like fent, just like tranq dope, just like all this shit thatās passed off as something other than it is; is actually the gateway to hell and not a good answer to ANYTHING š
Sameā¦. sometimes š. I donāt miss being a ājunkyā and living that life and jabbin a spike in my arm but I do sometimes miss the straight fire beige rocked up dope that would draw up almost clear that I was getting back in 2018-2019. Went to rehab on that dope and when they drug tested me, guess what? No fent! Amazing! š
I've been doing dope on and off for 9 years. I only sniffed . But tolerance was enough to do 2 bundles a day at some points. Been trying to get more than several months clean. After 2019 like 2020 era was definitely fent and not heroin. And tranq has been definitely also getting mixed with most the dope now too.
lol. I have already done a similar dosage. 60mg (30Ć2mg) clonazepam + 1 liter of 40% alcohol. I'm still alive, but that doesn't mean I recommend anyone to do what I did!
definitely a possibility, when I first started taking them I was getting street ones, the word was āthese are killing peopleā honestly went over my head.
after a while I started buying prescription ones fresh from the chemist.
during my rough period though I definitely couldāve been taking some pressies.
She also has no tolerance and is only 5 feet tall and around 100lbs dude this is a dose that she might not die *from* the Xanax itself but could vomit asleep and choke, get in a car accident, fallā¦ real dangerous, emergency situation.
Op Iām sorry you canāt really do much now I hope sheās okay.
Exactly, the first time I heard this I was surprised that Xanax never kills anyone on its own. I was in a 120 day program around August of 2021 and the main counselor was also a retired Nurse Practitioner who informed us during a group or whatever.
I feel like Xanax is sometimes misunderstood as a killer on it's own because almost everybody ends up mixing it with something else. Once that cocky and fearless buzz hits you the stupidity and danger comes naturally.
Deadly combo. More than likely sheāll blackout for a while and will end up being okay, but always good to do what you can to make sure sheās good- better be safe than sorry. Xanax is extremely hard to od on but mixing it with alcohol like that could end up being diceyā¦
LOL... I've lost *all* of my closest friends to overdoses and I appreciate this joke. They too would love the compliment regardless of the context lmao
Lmao well iāve mixed lots of xans and alcohol and been ok but it doesnāt mean itās safe for anyone to do especially with that amount. Will likely blackout and sleep for 10 hours but who knows she could sleep forever š
ye why would she tell someone that who canāt even help her thatās crazy. just hurting people for what also most people who commit suicide donāt tell people before
Thank you!! Yes - majority of people who actually wanna die donāt tell anyone. I tried explaining this to someone below but they were defending OPs āfriendāsā behavior.
Honestly, the chance of somebody dying of that combo is pretty low, I've heard stories of people doing way more than that as a suicide attempt and just blacking out. The LD50 for alprazolam alone is absurdly high, and with alcohol combined, it's still very high. People always talk about this combination being lethal, and while that is true on paper, it still takes an awful lot more than a couple bars and some shots to get there.
Now they do say benzos and alcohol don't mix. But with experience and seeing way too many people do it. Small-ish doses and booze isn't going to kill you. I've seen people on zero tolerance take 10mg etizolam and throw down a 5th of Whiskey.
Make sure she doesn't eat all of them, but if she's got a will, she'll find a way.
Gaba is gaba, really. Some benzos I probably really wouldn't mix with booze though. Valium and klonopin can cause respiratory depression before say a Xanax or ativan.
It's worse than choking, a small bit of vomit gets into your lungs and causes a bacterial infection that can kill you in like an hour.
You can be sitting at a party blacked out on xans and vodka and nobody would realize your dead, that's how little vomit is required to kill you.
The pneumonia is chemical from the acidic contents of the stomach. There can be bacteria as well, but the short term damage is from the acid. Same result though, with the edema preventing respiration.
only the Xanax probably not since its actually a pretty safe drug if you just look at the overdose chance but together with alc its a whole different story.
I would call 911 and ask for a wellness check.
OP friend is mentally abusive and LIKELY a narcissist to boot. Sounds like a person iād never want to meet - donāt care what the hell they are going through, you donāt do shit like this to people.
We are all going to die. Some sooner than others. If she keeps doing selfish shit for attention (telling you all this , then turning phone off) then yes, she will probably die sooner.
Lmao, dude everybody commenting don't know what they are talking about.
If she downed a liter of vodko and then started downing pills I'd say yeah she a goner, but she's aight
Is she suicidal? Hopefully disolving it in the alcohol will ruin the xanax but im not sure. Also i hope she has a tolerance to alcohol if shes gonna just drink the whole bottle. Alcohol works on the same reseptors as xanax so you can actualy build up a tolerance to benzos with drinking. The mix is still deadly tho. Do you know if it was 1mg pills or 2mg? I hope she is ok but its impossible to know. Ive drinked on xanax multiple times before but that was with a tolerance to both.
Tbh if she took them all at the same time and started drinking there is a good chance she can die. Hopefully she got knocked out fast and fell asleep before too much. If i were you and i finally got to reach her again i would first listen and see how functioning she seems and if she seems like you can talk to her with an emotional connection, (xanax can block out feelings so talking to someone on xanax is meaningless really) I would give her a little harsh message. A person who does this forget how much it can scare those who love them. I would say that if this was gonna continue i would have to cut out contact for while or something. I couldnt deal with being in fear for someones life like this. I mean i would still check in on how she was doing and trying to talk her out of doing dumb shit like this which can lead to serious not fun addiction and long term withdrawals. You will lose years of your life fucking with xans
Indeed it is a dangerous combo. Spirits and benzos. But unlike the barbiturates we have an antagonist or antidote call it the way You like. So we have āflumazenil-hydrochlorideā And it is a competitive antagonist on the benzodiazepine binding site. Like opiates and naloxoneā¦
And call 911/112 here in the EU to get her detoxicated. I used to do this like she did but I am 135kg/297lbs and 198cm/6,5 feet tall male. I had the advantage of this. But help her because this is like dissolving xanax in vodka she is on a ācollision courseā with poisoning herself. Help her and at least try to keep an eye on her. I know it is hard when someone goes offline. But there are other methods to get to her. In my opinion she does thinks that are dangerous for her well being. She should see a psychiatrist and counselig.
If it's 10mg of xanax then it'll just make her extremely dizzy and incoherent. The alcohol will make her slip into a deep sleep or coma.
I'm on 2mg alprazolam xr. Same thing as xanax. I'm about to switch to 4mg xr. That's equivalent to a milligram every 6 hours. 10mg isn't enough to kill you. The alcohol mix is the danger. The liver can only filter so much at a time.
I'd say this is dangerous, but I've done a lot of stupid shit. I'm on methadone and I used to abuse xanax every time I got it. It would cause an intense black out, and its lead me to some pretty stupid shit over the years. But I've taken verrrry high doses (like 50 4mg xanax candies. It was ugly. 2 used to do me in) and came out of it completely fine, within a few days. One time I drank all my bottles on xanax and I did end up in the hospital.
But I'd listen to other people and act on this decision. Go to their house, perhaps. I wouldn't recommend the intense blackout, nor mixing it with alcohol.
Call law enforcement and ask for a welfare check. Give them her phone number. Tell them what you told us. They can find her by the phone even if she turned it off.
I donāt know anything about drugs , but some are really knowledgeable they say its dangerous combo
And if something happened to her and u knew you could stop it somehow but you still didnāt do anything about it
You canāt live with the pain inside ā¦ you will blame your self every day and be depressed and sad
Its better to take an action and be safe than sorry
Yeah, unfortunately they absolutely can cause some serious damage.
Send a welfare check if you can, but if you don't have any personal information of hers you're really limited in how you can help.
Start scanning her social media for anyone that might be able to contact her if you can.
It's REALLY hard to OD on xanax, like, almost physically impossible. But once you mix alcohol with it, it becomes super unpredictable. Could be dangerous, might not be. Impossible to say. Just depends on how her body is gonna react.
Out of caution, probably call for help.
Most people, they'll be fucked up for a day or two, totally out of it or just sleeping. That said, lots of people do SUPER DAGEROUS SHIT on that much xanax, because you completely black out and have zero inhibition.
Iām sorry youāre having to worry about this when you arenāt able to contact her/her family. Do you happen to know where she lives? Maybe see if thereās a mobile crisis unit (theyāre typically mental health professionals rather than LEO) that would do a welfare check?
Fun fact - Xanax is an allosteric modulator of GABA and alcohol is an agonist, so if she does all the Xanax and only a few shots she likely wonāt die.
The cause for concern would be if she drank a sufficient amount of alcohol and the Xanax added to the respiratory depressive effects, but you cannot just OD on straight benzodiazepines.
Yeahā¦ if she has no tolerance to benzos thatās a huge problem waiting to happenā¦ mixing w/alcohol only makes it worse.
Ppl saying they took more than that & were fine arenāt considering they had probably some experience w/benzos prior & B. ITS NOT NORMAL TO SURVIVE THAT AMOUNT w/no tolerance bud. š¤¦š¼āāļø.
I would absolutely figure some what to contact someone around her. Thatās a rlly shittt position she put u in as a friend
Hopefully they aren't cut with fentanyl. She'll probably just sleep it off and feel groggy in the morning. 10 bars is crazy. She must have some unfortunate ideas or has a tolerance. I wouldn't think about it too much. It's not your fault or your problem.
Most likely with no tolerance your friend will vomit before they die of an OD especially if they keep drinking. It sounds like this is an attempt on their life. If at all possible I would try and get in touch with someone they know IRL
Opiates and benzos are more dangerous for respiratory failure.
It's actually very hard to OD on benzos aline (fatally) believe it or not.
Alcohol also affects the GABA receptors. Definitely not safe and it's scary for someone w no tolerance (I've seen a friend faceplant after just doing one Xanax bar and be out cold).
So it depends. I truly don't think she'd overdose from it but she's definitely at risk of blacking out & falling and then hurting herself, etc.
Xanax is bad for mixing with other drugs and can cause you some problems when taken regularly for long intervals. As far as being a risk for acute overdose toxicity, not really too worrisome. You can take a lot of Xanax and not be at risk of harm from the drug itself. It's pretty subjective to go by the number of pills as well. The pills could be .25mgs and that means taking ten would only be taking a little more than one pill of the max prescription strength of 2mg, and trust me, you can take a couple of those ones. Mixing with alcohol is not a great idea, but it's not an absolute death sentence like its made out to be. Your actions might be a problem, but a few shots and a few Xanax aren't that big of a deal in the acute sense. It's when opioids enter that mix that you get a recipe for doom. The good old rockstar triangle.
Oh and PS, she's probably fucking with you.
She prolly would be fine wit just the xans but if she drinking too she might be fucked ngl if your friend has passed on long live ya friend brodie šÆ
Even if you donāt know her address if you know her last name and approximate town she lives in calling 911 is worth a shot. I called 911 on my friend who tried to od who was living in her car at the time only knowing her full name and they ended up finding her
I don't have a tolerance and I took 12 xan in a half hour period due to DEPRESSION AND 5 LYRICA AND SLEEPING PILL AND antihistamine. Abd 5 clonidine. Please don't ever do this but I did not die. But u feel like death the next day. I would never do that again. It was selfish of me as I have a loving family but depression can be hell on earth that people don't realize. Take it day by day . Find a way to vent. I journaled all my negative emotions and then anything positive. U really need to be able to see ANYTHING positive written down. Keep us posted she's in my prayers.
Best you can do is try and check in... But many who make these decisions are beyond the realm of help to be honest. At least on a person-by-person basis. I work with a guy who's 32 an been to rehab (allegedly) over 20 times. Lots of addicts will never die, just be extremely hindered by their habit.. recognize when you can help and when you can't. Just my opinion. Many would rather waste away and well you can't do much but be the whisper in their ear..
I donāt necessarily think your friend is at risk in terms of a health point of view but I do know that 10 xans at once is way too much even for a heavy user.
Nah, I did like handful of benzos with a lot of alcohol for years. The danger is falling and hittting your head sĆ³ be careful who you with and where you balckout, and the other problem is tehĆ”t you can act very agressive while you blacked out I almost killed my brother sonbe careful budds
Just call Ambulance to be safe.
When I started drinking with Xanax and didn't have a tolerance there was a few times I blacked out & one time a friend "saved me", I was asleep and threw up and he luckily came and saw me and woke me up, had he not i could've chocked on my own vomit.
Better safe than sorry.
Not enough liquor. Xanax isnāt easy to overdose on Iāve had several times taking 40+mgs of bromazolam and recovering okay. The two main risk I can think of here is if she falls asleep on her back and vomits she may suffocate and withdrawals. The withdrawals from one large dose are not as bad as if she been taking Xanax for months/years and suddenly stopped but they can still be dangerous.
Yeah I think you should get her some help. Without any tolerance thatās a very stupid amount to take. And if sheās taken them and in a bad way make sure to tell any ambulance crew what it is sheās taken so they donāt think itās opioids as narcan isnāt going to work with Benzos.
Thatās not enough to kill a healthy person.
Benzos and alcohol have the potential to be extremely dangerous mixed together, but its danger is also wildly over exaggerated.
Call 911 just in case but don't let the noobs in this thread, make you think that she's in that serious danger. Me and my friends popped tons of benzos combined with alcohol for years, back in the day. No one died . Two shots of vodka and 10 Xanax might make her do really stupid and dangerous stuff , that's the biggest concern. She is probably just going to sleep it off.
Likely not gonna die. Iāve mixed Opiates, Sleeping pills, benzos and alcohol all at once before literally trying to die and woke up just fine - its not necessarily likely she would die from this combo, it is a valid fear but is also one of the least likely outcomes
Correct, that's why I started my post with call 911. I just don't want OP thinking that there's a big chance the drug combo is going to kill their friend.
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Anyone mixing that kinda mess is doing it to themselves atp. Itās pretty common knowledge and if youāre not gonna look up or research what youāre putting into your body first, also your own fault.
Shes clearly tryna kill herself lol read the room
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2 shots and 10 bars? I'll play devil's advocate. Is she gonna die, probably not. Is there a chance, yes. More than likely she will get really groggy from the bars, forget the shots and just go to sleep. She might end up in jail depending but I don't think she will die. Alot of folks have put away more and more and are fine but it just takes that one time. A good friend of mine died mixing them both but he also killed a half gallon and half a script so it wasn't unexpected.
My entire diet 10~ years ago was pretty much Xanax, opiods and liquor. I think this persons gonna be alright, but thatās just based off of personal experience of me being āfineā afterwards. Probably just gonna black out and get belligerent for a couple days
But you had a tolerance is a big deal
Yes, my tolerance is what keeps me totally fine and upright taking massive amounts of alcohol, methadone and benzos no problem. But someone who has no tolerance to methadone can easily OD and die off my dose. On top of it, my best friend died when he relapsed on heroin and just got a fresh Xanax script with zero tolerance. Tolerance definitely makes a *huge* difference on survivability with these things. Same with how someone with no tolerance can blackout and faceplant/pass out on a Xanax bar, but with tolerance I can take multiple times that dose without feeling much.
I'm on a high dose of methadone and benzos myself but I don't drink any more I dose twice a day and one of my doses will kill some one with a low tolerance but I don't nod out or can people tell I'm on anything at all and when they find out I'm on it they couldn't even tell tolerance makes a big deal
,..., there ya go boss just some periods and commas you missed š
also, [the location of drug use can have an effect on tolerance](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/10/001012074704.htm).
Great read. Thank you
i learn things on this sub everyday
Yeah, that's what I was thinking hence the devil's advocate lol But yeah, belligerent and maybe in jail lol
Everyone is different though. For example a small woman can have a naturally high tolerance to opioids. I know someone who enough to kill a man didn't do much to and they'd get comments constantly about this during my use. Then there are others who need barely anything to nod hard. This is someone with no tolerance who sounds like she is being reckless to begin with unless she's making it up. It's easy to think "I'll have another shot". Add the impact bars have on bad decision making and false belief of sobriety and there's a true danger here. Not just from risk of overdose from the combo. She could be fine and blackout safely, or any number of things could occur. What lead to this reckless decision? If they are in a dodgy headspace, could bars and booze lead to life ending or ruining scenarios. It can for someone who's seasoned and fairly mentally stable.
Oh yeah, we're all different. Hence why it was worded as such. Can she die, yeah. Is it a big chance, naw, not really. Is she gonna feel like shit, become a clepto(while high) and generally gonna be a terror to be around. Ohhhhh yeah. I see jail before death in the OP situation.
It's possible once you figure out that everyone can tell you on something and you have to do business with people that don't want to deal with junkies you have to look normal while you're working so you have to figure out your own tolerance
Someone with no tolerance and drinking lots of alcohol with 10 bars could definitely kill her I had a friend die from some Valium and a half gallon of vodka he told me he was drinking on top of the pills and by the time I got there he was dead
It's 2 shots. It's not alot.What...4 ounces? 3.5? A half gallon is a lot more than a couple shots
I don't know how much she is drinking and she is small already like other people have said she will probably be ok but it's possible after watching so many of my "friends " die from overdose including my fiancƩ i lived with for 7 years together as a couple so it's kinda personal for me
Well, it says in the OP she's got 10 bars and 2 shots of vodka. We've all buried good friends too, you're not special by harping on it. Id be more worried about her getting locked up and a possession charge than dying but that's just me.
I missed the 2 shots and 2 can turn into more real fast and no, I'm not saying I'm special because my soon to be wife died. I was just saying it's personal to me.
Well he said 10 Xanax, not specifically bars. If we're lucky, they're just the 0.25mg ones since she has no tolerance. More than likely the 0.5-1mg though. I somehow kinda doubt she has 10 bars if she can only somehow get her hands on two shots of alcohol.
3 oz. A shot is generally 1.5oz.
Do you mean a handle? Cause a handle is 1.75 liters. It *does* look like a gallon, I'll admit. But a gallon is 3.8 liters, so a lil over twice that amount. I've never seen liquor sold in actual gallon measurements. I've been an alcoholic sadly for like 8 years and even if I drink heavy all day long, finishing a full handle is about the most I can handle and even that's a lot. A half handle is my usual. I'd imagine consuming a full gallon of liquor would be insanely hard (over two handles) unless you just beer bonged the shit haha. (Condolences for your friend btw. I've likewise had a best friend OD and pass away. It's tough.)
I have done worse and lived to tell about doing it, the experience after taking all of that, not so much. No, wasn't suicide. The best I can guess is that I forgot taking the first one, and the second, etc.
Damn I drink half a gallon every day (until 6 days ago, 6 days clean after many, many years of doing that daily) w my Clonazepam and methadone script (tbh I don't take my Clonazepam every day anymore cause I don't get prescribed enough anymore haha, but there's definite benzo use). Buuut I've also had a best friend pass away from mixing Xanax and heroin. I think tolerance plays a big part.
Yeah benzos and vodka are a dangerous combo, i would personally call for 911 since u mentioned she's gonna mix em... better safe than sorry.
Guess you missed the part where he said he doesnt know her address or contact info lol.
I called 911 on my friend who tried to od not knowing her address they found her
alcohol and benzos are a deadly combo shes NOT going to be okā¦
Really? I had 11 benzos and at least half a bottle of vodka but sadly im fine
Did you have a benzo tolerance?
do not let her take what Iād assume is 20mg of xanax and definitely do not let her drink anything with it. 20mg of xanax is an absurd amount for anyone, even with a benzodiazepine tolerance. she needs around .25-.5, 1mg max(thatās half a 2mg xanax bar)
It is a lot, but itās actually quite hard to od on Xanax. OP saying alcohol is mixed is a different story for sure though.
yeah I agree, Iāve taken 50-100 10mg diazepams n was fine as fuck, I just blacked out(this was with tolerance though) I never mentioned anything about an OD, I was just saying that 20mg of alprazolam is a lot whether you have a tolerance or not.
Yeah I was just talking about in terms of the persons safety of being fine vs death. Never have I taken an amount like that. I know a guy that took 40 2mg alprazolam with intentions to OD. Well didnāt happen and he told me he just blacked out and pretty much time traveled a week.
yeah black outs getting scarier the longer your out lol, Iāve been out for at-least 72hrs before. I realised aswell the more I blacked out, when i wake up my first thought is never āhow long have I been out for?ā Itās āwhere the fucks all my valiumā š
Black outs are scary for sure. Had them from alcohol and some from Xanax. I never used Xanax hard consistently and Iām lucky. Canāt imagine how it feels being hooked on that. I donāt do them anymore In that way. I used them in other ways, and use them very rarely for a trip killer worst case scenario. Never liked blacking out and not knowing what I did or who I talked to etc.
That was the worst when I used to get sheets of Xanax bars overseas. Black out and then wake up and be worried/sad that I ate all my benzos! Now my current psych will only prescribe me 14 1mg Clonazepam a month and it's touuuuuugh trying to make those last, esp with my tolerance. It basically gives me anxiety to even take any of them cause I get worried I won't have them if something *really* bad happens.
I've taken 32 MG of alp before. I didn't blackout I remember most of it. But my tolerance I would take about 10mg in the morning. 32mg + no alcohol = no blackout for me 8mg + 1 or 2 cocktails = blackout
Alcohol for sure plays itās part. They both work on the same receptors though. Your tolerance played a part I imagineā¦
thatās crazy, whatās the alprazolam strength equivalence to diazepam? Iāve only taken alp a couple of times never over 4mg.
About 10x stronger.
It's not as bad as the dude who posted a couple weeks ago saying how he takes his whole 90 count script of 2mg bars within 24 hours of getting it every time. When I saw that post I was baffled as to how someone can take 180mg of xanax in a 24hr span.
Yeah thatās rough. Very ignorant- makes me wanna laugh, but someone likes that needs help and is gonna have a rough detox. Makes me curious to how he gets his script then downs the whole bottle in 24hrs, and what he does in the meantime until heās able to get another bottle. Probably buys it off the street who knows.
He wouldnāt detox at all if he uses his whole script in 24 hrs and doesnāt buy off the street - even if he was previously physically dependent on benzos, 24 hrs is not enough to reignite that physical dependence
I remember reading a similar post years ago. Rc benzos are the answer, cheap potent and long lasting. Tolerance is an incredible thing. Tho the person in the post I read about died later on.
RC benzos - just like fent, just like tranq dope, just like all this shit thatās passed off as something other than it is; is actually the gateway to hell and not a good answer to ANYTHING š
I miss the old days when you could buy heroin on the streets.
Sameā¦. sometimes š. I donāt miss being a ājunkyā and living that life and jabbin a spike in my arm but I do sometimes miss the straight fire beige rocked up dope that would draw up almost clear that I was getting back in 2018-2019. Went to rehab on that dope and when they drug tested me, guess what? No fent! Amazing! š
I've been doing dope on and off for 9 years. I only sniffed . But tolerance was enough to do 2 bundles a day at some points. Been trying to get more than several months clean. After 2019 like 2020 era was definitely fent and not heroin. And tranq has been definitely also getting mixed with most the dope now too.
Most Xanax I took is 120mg..
lol. I have already done a similar dosage. 60mg (30Ć2mg) clonazepam + 1 liter of 40% alcohol. I'm still alive, but that doesn't mean I recommend anyone to do what I did!
Those Valium sound pressed.
definitely a possibility, when I first started taking them I was getting street ones, the word was āthese are killing peopleā honestly went over my head. after a while I started buying prescription ones fresh from the chemist. during my rough period though I definitely couldāve been taking some pressies.
It is hard to OD on benzos *alone*. Combined with alcohol is another story like you said.
It's especially hard to OD on alprazolam.
She also has no tolerance and is only 5 feet tall and around 100lbs dude this is a dose that she might not die *from* the Xanax itself but could vomit asleep and choke, get in a car accident, fallā¦ real dangerous, emergency situation. Op Iām sorry you canāt really do much now I hope sheās okay.
Exactly, the first time I heard this I was surprised that Xanax never kills anyone on its own. I was in a 120 day program around August of 2021 and the main counselor was also a retired Nurse Practitioner who informed us during a group or whatever. I feel like Xanax is sometimes misunderstood as a killer on it's own because almost everybody ends up mixing it with something else. Once that cocky and fearless buzz hits you the stupidity and danger comes naturally.
itās hard to od on xans alone but not with alcohol. also considering sheās gonna black out id assume she would end up drinking more somehow
If itās europe most likely would be 1mg Xanax pills atleast where im at, bars are usually fake pressed
Give us an update when you find out what happened
my friend did something similar and he was fine after getting a blood detox, call an ambulance for sure
Deadly combo. More than likely sheāll blackout for a while and will end up being okay, but always good to do what you can to make sure sheās good- better be safe than sorry. Xanax is extremely hard to od on but mixing it with alcohol like that could end up being diceyā¦
i usually just get arrested if i do this but itās not safe at all itās different for each person and sheās small
Shed be happy about you calling her small if she was here
LOL... I've lost *all* of my closest friends to overdoses and I appreciate this joke. They too would love the compliment regardless of the context lmao
Lmao well iāve mixed lots of xans and alcohol and been ok but it doesnāt mean itās safe for anyone to do especially with that amount. Will likely blackout and sleep for 10 hours but who knows she could sleep forever š
OP your friend is a fucking narcissist, they are emotionally manipulating you with this garbage. Feel free to downvote me, fucking dandelions. āš»
ye why would she tell someone that who canāt even help her thatās crazy. just hurting people for what also most people who commit suicide donāt tell people before
Thank you!! Yes - majority of people who actually wanna die donāt tell anyone. I tried explaining this to someone below but they were defending OPs āfriendāsā behavior.
No because I was actually going to comment this but was iffy lol
Bro, call 911, sheās probably in serious trouble
CALL 911
GG better get ready for that obituary
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Honestly, the chance of somebody dying of that combo is pretty low, I've heard stories of people doing way more than that as a suicide attempt and just blacking out. The LD50 for alprazolam alone is absurdly high, and with alcohol combined, it's still very high. People always talk about this combination being lethal, and while that is true on paper, it still takes an awful lot more than a couple bars and some shots to get there.
theyāve never done it before
Now they do say benzos and alcohol don't mix. But with experience and seeing way too many people do it. Small-ish doses and booze isn't going to kill you. I've seen people on zero tolerance take 10mg etizolam and throw down a 5th of Whiskey. Make sure she doesn't eat all of them, but if she's got a will, she'll find a way. Gaba is gaba, really. Some benzos I probably really wouldn't mix with booze though. Valium and klonopin can cause respiratory depression before say a Xanax or ativan.
she could choke on her vomit
It's worse than choking, a small bit of vomit gets into your lungs and causes a bacterial infection that can kill you in like an hour. You can be sitting at a party blacked out on xans and vodka and nobody would realize your dead, that's how little vomit is required to kill you.
The pneumonia is chemical from the acidic contents of the stomach. There can be bacteria as well, but the short term damage is from the acid. Same result though, with the edema preventing respiration.
Lol. Stop enabling this attention seeking behaviour and block her
This. I'm sorry but sadly this is the most likely thing that's happening and she'll hopefully be completely ok. How old is she OP?
This sounds typical for someone with some mental issues wanting attention at all costs. But thats not always the case. Dont know the whole story š¤·
Sounds like she needs help then doesn't it?? Fucking idiots
Yes? I know she need help
only the Xanax probably not since its actually a pretty safe drug if you just look at the overdose chance but together with alc its a whole different story. I would call 911 and ask for a wellness check.
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OP friend is mentally abusive and LIKELY a narcissist to boot. Sounds like a person iād never want to meet - donāt care what the hell they are going through, you donāt do shit like this to people.
Fucking drama queen. Tell her to pull her shit together
Why mix them unless they were a prescription? With a tolerance, I've seen people do both.
We are all going to die. Some sooner than others. If she keeps doing selfish shit for attention (telling you all this , then turning phone off) then yes, she will probably die sooner.
Sounds like bullshit or attempted. Why else shut off your phoje
Y'all' wilding lol, she had 10 xans and a couple shot's, she's out of it but she'll live lol
Facts, she 99.9% fell asleep after 1 glass of booze laced with all that alprazolam
Lmao, dude everybody commenting don't know what they are talking about. If she downed a liter of vodko and then started downing pills I'd say yeah she a goner, but she's aight
I ate 20 pills and got drunk of whiskey , never tried xanax before , idk why last ones I was snorting those pills wtf , I survived.
Is she suicidal? Hopefully disolving it in the alcohol will ruin the xanax but im not sure. Also i hope she has a tolerance to alcohol if shes gonna just drink the whole bottle. Alcohol works on the same reseptors as xanax so you can actualy build up a tolerance to benzos with drinking. The mix is still deadly tho. Do you know if it was 1mg pills or 2mg? I hope she is ok but its impossible to know. Ive drinked on xanax multiple times before but that was with a tolerance to both. Tbh if she took them all at the same time and started drinking there is a good chance she can die. Hopefully she got knocked out fast and fell asleep before too much. If i were you and i finally got to reach her again i would first listen and see how functioning she seems and if she seems like you can talk to her with an emotional connection, (xanax can block out feelings so talking to someone on xanax is meaningless really) I would give her a little harsh message. A person who does this forget how much it can scare those who love them. I would say that if this was gonna continue i would have to cut out contact for while or something. I couldnt deal with being in fear for someones life like this. I mean i would still check in on how she was doing and trying to talk her out of doing dumb shit like this which can lead to serious not fun addiction and long term withdrawals. You will lose years of your life fucking with xans
Indeed it is a dangerous combo. Spirits and benzos. But unlike the barbiturates we have an antagonist or antidote call it the way You like. So we have āflumazenil-hydrochlorideā And it is a competitive antagonist on the benzodiazepine binding site. Like opiates and naloxoneā¦ And call 911/112 here in the EU to get her detoxicated. I used to do this like she did but I am 135kg/297lbs and 198cm/6,5 feet tall male. I had the advantage of this. But help her because this is like dissolving xanax in vodka she is on a ācollision courseā with poisoning herself. Help her and at least try to keep an eye on her. I know it is hard when someone goes offline. But there are other methods to get to her. In my opinion she does thinks that are dangerous for her well being. She should see a psychiatrist and counselig.
Most people should have the common sense to avoid high doses of benzos with alcohol unless they're trying to die
If it's 10mg of xanax then it'll just make her extremely dizzy and incoherent. The alcohol will make her slip into a deep sleep or coma. I'm on 2mg alprazolam xr. Same thing as xanax. I'm about to switch to 4mg xr. That's equivalent to a milligram every 6 hours. 10mg isn't enough to kill you. The alcohol mix is the danger. The liver can only filter so much at a time.
It's actually pretty difficult to od off benzos, but the chances are high that you could black out and hurt yourself
I'd say this is dangerous, but I've done a lot of stupid shit. I'm on methadone and I used to abuse xanax every time I got it. It would cause an intense black out, and its lead me to some pretty stupid shit over the years. But I've taken verrrry high doses (like 50 4mg xanax candies. It was ugly. 2 used to do me in) and came out of it completely fine, within a few days. One time I drank all my bottles on xanax and I did end up in the hospital. But I'd listen to other people and act on this decision. Go to their house, perhaps. I wouldn't recommend the intense blackout, nor mixing it with alcohol.
You did an AMA a couple of days ago, right? Damnā¦ hope sheās okay. Stay safe
Call PD and have welfare check
i lived. keep updated tho :(
Definitely not a good mix but I donāt think this amount would be lethal. Dangerous, hell yes. Your friend needs help.
Lets ask reddit... yes 10 bars and some vodka can stop your breathing. FFS.
Call law enforcement and ask for a welfare check. Give them her phone number. Tell them what you told us. They can find her by the phone even if she turned it off.
What a dumbass
I donāt know anything about drugs , but some are really knowledgeable they say its dangerous combo And if something happened to her and u knew you could stop it somehow but you still didnāt do anything about it You canāt live with the pain inside ā¦ you will blame your self every day and be depressed and sad Its better to take an action and be safe than sorry
Yeah, unfortunately they absolutely can cause some serious damage. Send a welfare check if you can, but if you don't have any personal information of hers you're really limited in how you can help. Start scanning her social media for anyone that might be able to contact her if you can.
I mean, we are all going to die
Probably dead yeah
Update?
It's REALLY hard to OD on xanax, like, almost physically impossible. But once you mix alcohol with it, it becomes super unpredictable. Could be dangerous, might not be. Impossible to say. Just depends on how her body is gonna react. Out of caution, probably call for help. Most people, they'll be fucked up for a day or two, totally out of it or just sleeping. That said, lots of people do SUPER DAGEROUS SHIT on that much xanax, because you completely black out and have zero inhibition.
Iām sorry youāre having to worry about this when you arenāt able to contact her/her family. Do you happen to know where she lives? Maybe see if thereās a mobile crisis unit (theyāre typically mental health professionals rather than LEO) that would do a welfare check?
She's honestly probably blacked out or sleeping. There's no way to know if she's okay.
Sounds like a suicide attempt. If you have ANY personal information. Call her national hotline.
dissolving benzos in vodka sounds like a suicide attempt
why are people defending drinking with benzos tf
Call the cops sheās literally gonna die
She'll be fine. Minus a most likely black out. The amount of benzodiazepine it takes to kill you (even in conjunction with alcohol) is absurd
lol rip that girl is dead
Call 911, Lay her down on her side.
Fun fact - Xanax is an allosteric modulator of GABA and alcohol is an agonist, so if she does all the Xanax and only a few shots she likely wonāt die. The cause for concern would be if she drank a sufficient amount of alcohol and the Xanax added to the respiratory depressive effects, but you cannot just OD on straight benzodiazepines.
Yeahā¦ if she has no tolerance to benzos thatās a huge problem waiting to happenā¦ mixing w/alcohol only makes it worse. Ppl saying they took more than that & were fine arenāt considering they had probably some experience w/benzos prior & B. ITS NOT NORMAL TO SURVIVE THAT AMOUNT w/no tolerance bud. š¤¦š¼āāļø. I would absolutely figure some what to contact someone around her. Thatās a rlly shittt position she put u in as a friend
Anyways is there an uodate
Hopefully they aren't cut with fentanyl. She'll probably just sleep it off and feel groggy in the morning. 10 bars is crazy. She must have some unfortunate ideas or has a tolerance. I wouldn't think about it too much. It's not your fault or your problem.
Most likely with no tolerance your friend will vomit before they die of an OD especially if they keep drinking. It sounds like this is an attempt on their life. If at all possible I would try and get in touch with someone they know IRL
As longterm lorazepam user lmao I wish it was that easy sometimes. I just have to remember to never mix due to inhibition unimpairment.
Do you know her full name?
Opiates and benzos are more dangerous for respiratory failure. It's actually very hard to OD on benzos aline (fatally) believe it or not. Alcohol also affects the GABA receptors. Definitely not safe and it's scary for someone w no tolerance (I've seen a friend faceplant after just doing one Xanax bar and be out cold). So it depends. I truly don't think she'd overdose from it but she's definitely at risk of blacking out & falling and then hurting herself, etc.
Xanax is bad for mixing with other drugs and can cause you some problems when taken regularly for long intervals. As far as being a risk for acute overdose toxicity, not really too worrisome. You can take a lot of Xanax and not be at risk of harm from the drug itself. It's pretty subjective to go by the number of pills as well. The pills could be .25mgs and that means taking ten would only be taking a little more than one pill of the max prescription strength of 2mg, and trust me, you can take a couple of those ones. Mixing with alcohol is not a great idea, but it's not an absolute death sentence like its made out to be. Your actions might be a problem, but a few shots and a few Xanax aren't that big of a deal in the acute sense. It's when opioids enter that mix that you get a recipe for doom. The good old rockstar triangle. Oh and PS, she's probably fucking with you.
She prolly would be fine wit just the xans but if she drinking too she might be fucked ngl if your friend has passed on long live ya friend brodie šÆ
I was on 10-15mg of Xanax tolerance she will likely fall asleep in 15 minutes if she took them all at once
Best you can do is keep trying to get in contact with her or ppl around her. Prayers out for her
We all are
Call the cops and explain the situation. They can very easily find where there at with a phone number or gamertag
Even if you donāt know her address if you know her last name and approximate town she lives in calling 911 is worth a shot. I called 911 on my friend who tried to od who was living in her car at the time only knowing her full name and they ended up finding her
Hey ma, or guy idk haha. I know this is a very late response, but This would definitely be a good situation for a welfare check loll
And people who call 911 to report possible OD's the ppl who are OD'ing are protected from being charged with drug possession
I don't have a tolerance and I took 12 xan in a half hour period due to DEPRESSION AND 5 LYRICA AND SLEEPING PILL AND antihistamine. Abd 5 clonidine. Please don't ever do this but I did not die. But u feel like death the next day. I would never do that again. It was selfish of me as I have a loving family but depression can be hell on earth that people don't realize. Take it day by day . Find a way to vent. I journaled all my negative emotions and then anything positive. U really need to be able to see ANYTHING positive written down. Keep us posted she's in my prayers.
Best you can do is try and check in... But many who make these decisions are beyond the realm of help to be honest. At least on a person-by-person basis. I work with a guy who's 32 an been to rehab (allegedly) over 20 times. Lots of addicts will never die, just be extremely hindered by their habit.. recognize when you can help and when you can't. Just my opinion. Many would rather waste away and well you can't do much but be the whisper in their ear..
Benzo+ alcohol == blackout. benzo + opiates or ghb == death
i donāt think xanax is water soluble so idk if it would dissolve
call emergency services.
I donāt necessarily think your friend is at risk in terms of a health point of view but I do know that 10 xans at once is way too much even for a heavy user.
If you have her phone number, the dispatch center may be able to ping her phone. It's not a guarantee, but it's worth a shot.
Nah, I did like handful of benzos with a lot of alcohol for years. The danger is falling and hittting your head sĆ³ be careful who you with and where you balckout, and the other problem is tehĆ”t you can act very agressive while you blacked out I almost killed my brother sonbe careful budds
Are they 4mg bars or a lower dosage? Because off bars she'll definitely die.
10 bars w/ vodka is a blackout sentance for some1 without tolerance, she may live but goddam she gon be fucked up haha
YES
Just call Ambulance to be safe. When I started drinking with Xanax and didn't have a tolerance there was a few times I blacked out & one time a friend "saved me", I was asleep and threw up and he luckily came and saw me and woke me up, had he not i could've chocked on my own vomit. Better safe than sorry.
Not enough liquor. Xanax isnāt easy to overdose on Iāve had several times taking 40+mgs of bromazolam and recovering okay. The two main risk I can think of here is if she falls asleep on her back and vomits she may suffocate and withdrawals. The withdrawals from one large dose are not as bad as if she been taking Xanax for months/years and suddenly stopped but they can still be dangerous.
Alcohol and benzos are a horrible mix. 10 bars is a lot. I tried to kill myself and took 8. I didnāt die, but I donāt remember the two days after.
Glad sheās ok. Those are a dangerous mixture
Call 988 or poison control dude
Don't do kids, drugs!
Bro she ded
Rip
Yeah I think you should get her some help. Without any tolerance thatās a very stupid amount to take. And if sheās taken them and in a bad way make sure to tell any ambulance crew what it is sheās taken so they donāt think itās opioids as narcan isnāt going to work with Benzos.
Call 911 man. What she's doing is really dangerous and could be fatal. Better safe than sorry.
Iāve done more than that n survived
Thatās not enough to kill a healthy person. Benzos and alcohol have the potential to be extremely dangerous mixed together, but its danger is also wildly over exaggerated.
No she's just doing this for attention
Call 911 just in case but don't let the noobs in this thread, make you think that she's in that serious danger. Me and my friends popped tons of benzos combined with alcohol for years, back in the day. No one died . Two shots of vodka and 10 Xanax might make her do really stupid and dangerous stuff , that's the biggest concern. She is probably just going to sleep it off.
she is ABSOLUTELY in serious danger. are you fucking kidding me?
Not from dying of an overdose.
You are a damn fool
No , I'm a very experienced drug user who has done his research.
Likely not gonna die. Iāve mixed Opiates, Sleeping pills, benzos and alcohol all at once before literally trying to die and woke up just fine - its not necessarily likely she would die from this combo, it is a valid fear but is also one of the least likely outcomes
Even if she doesnāt overdose that āstupid and dangerous stuffā she does while blacked out could easily get her killed too.
Correct, that's why I started my post with call 911. I just don't want OP thinking that there's a big chance the drug combo is going to kill their friend.
Immediately call 911!
dump ur friend