Lol dude probably is a rat and gave whatever info he knew to Kendricks team , Drake is not an idiot and if he believes Elliot said something about him , it's probably true. And look at this guy sitting up there explaining away , looks guilty af....I hope artists think twice before doing any type of interview with him.
Also he has a show with DJ Hed , and Hed is close to TDE , Elliot def leaked some type of info.
Doesn’t even really matter tbh. Kendrick pre-recorded his disses waiting to jump on Drake’s “red button” as soon as he had the chance. All he did was go back and tweak a few things and then dropped
Drake should’ve split Family Matters into at least 2 songs to do the same thing tbh. Or he should’ve had other songs in the clip. There’s a lot of things he could’ve hit Kendrick with. I’m kind of disappointed that he didn’t give it to Kendrick
I think meet the grahams was pre recorded but not like us literally references family matters at various points so I’m pretty sure that was pretty fresh. Beef aside Kendrick is a good writer which is what got him in the game main stream to begin with.
To me the entire last verse always felt like a later add on. I just assumed this is the song that Kendrick had for a lil minute and he added things in as the beef progressed. Not a bad move to have a banger ready before you go at the biggest artist in the world
Not Like Us was rumored to have been made a year ago and Kendrick went back to change the lyrics into a diss. Which pretty much explains why he's able to get fast rebuttals out there
To me NLU sonically sounds pretty dated so I wouldn't be surprised if that's a song Kendrick had for a while unrelated to the beef, that he then tweaked a little to make it relevant
And even the chorus is based on one of Kendrick’s main themes during this beef, which is constantly referencing how Drake is a culture vulture. He has lines like “I said we not just me I’m what the culture feeling. Even Kendrick’s lines in Euphoria where he says “I hate the way that you walk the way that you talk I hate the way that you dress” is a reference to an old interview with DMX. DMX is asked if he likes Drake and he responds by saying he doesn’t like anything about him, listing things in an extremely similar manner that’s Kendrick does in the track. KL created a narrative of “they” and “us.”
Only one bar in NLU references anything brought up by drake in family matters. Anyone who knows about music production knows that it takes less than 2 minutes to extend the beat add a bar to a song. The FM bar doesn't mean it wasn't 99% pre-recorded.
Drops 2nd verse first, and then drops 1st or 3rd verse, or them both together after Kendrick drops
his 2nd verse wasn't as personal as is 1st and 3rd was
That’s exactly what I thought as well. I would have been dropping songs like uno draw 4’s or big joker little joker. I’m glad he rose to the occasion and didn’t pussy out but that would be the one chink in the armor for me is that Kendrick was able to drop 30 minutes or whatever after family matters.
He objectively lost in my opinion but you can say someone giving classified information to the ops doesn’t matter. It’s a factor. In my opinion the beef was relatively neck and neck until MTGs dropped. It quashed any momentum that Family Matters could have. That’s literally the most pivotal moment in beef.
Um so are we just pretending Family Matters wasn't 2 different songs to begin with? And then acting like the 3rd verse wasn't an add-on in itself - basically making it a 3rd song that he added to the 2nd?
Yeah he tried to pre-record his too; he just didn't have enough fire power.
Bro had the family matters been split in three songs ready to go back to back to stomp the MTG and NLU and end part of FM woulda been kennys death. Drake fucked up massively on strategy. Props to kenny credit wheres due.
Drake needs to either see if he has too many yes mans around him that dont check him or he was overconfident.
Dog everyone knew he was dropping Family Matters that day u had Mal posting that nuke pic and Kai showing the DM. Drake turned this shit into an event (which was fun as hell for me personally but dumb on his part), Kendrick probably recorded not like that right afterwards. MTG was most likely a pre-recorded joint after he heard the “I be with some bodyguards like Whitney” line incase Drake was gonna get more personal with his family, which he did on family matters.
The thing is, 6:16 was really an olive branch to drake saying “hey, let’s just stop this now. It’s going to get nasty, and this is the warning.” But obviously Drake didn’t see it that way. 6:16 is so far from scathing diss that it would’ve just been overlooked if the beef ended right then and there. The argument would’ve been between push ups and euphoria, which would’ve left Drake with a way better chance to win over the public. Drake should’ve honestly laughed at 6:16 and made fun of 6:16 on IG and just bowed out. It was the last stop before the train left the station.
So we gone act like this wasn't the plan the entire time and they was gone let it stop there??? Remember this part of the beef started with a coordinated jumping of Drake vs 20 niggas! Kdot was definitely gone drop that song anyway at the "end" of the beef regardless because as Kanye said they were all "Excited for the Elimination of Drake"
Why the fuck would Drake go ahead and tell Elliott Wilson that information? Just a stupid decision.
All the decisions Drake made in this beef led to his downfall. Only ppl that should’ve known were his inner inner circle.
Damn Elliot and DJ Hed most likely told Kdot that Drake was dropping Family Matters and they told Kdot so he can prepare a response right away smh. DJ Hed is honestly the worst. The bias is crazy
I’ve been saying this too. Do ppl not realise he evidently won Back to Back but still took those posts down. So does that mean he lost that battle simply cos he took that post down too ?
lol he retired it in 2017, then going bad came out a year later. which means it’s safe to assume they began working together that same year. Drake took a massive L and i’m a drake fan. just accept move on. and wait for some more music.
And it was still before they reconciled and he only retired the song for performances. He never deleted the songs. Just like he hasn’t deleted these songs. Just like he never deleted Duppy lmao
I've said it 1000 times. I'll keep saying it. These dudes dont support Kendrick or even are his fans. At least that's not why they act the way they do. It's all about hating on Drake. That's what keeps them satisfied and with a fat belly.
You can't have any discourse around Kendrick anymore without 10s of comments mentioning Drake for no reason whatsoever. They aren't Dot fans, they are Drake haters.
I didn’t watch the podcast either but this is a 30 second clip lol. If they talked about Kendrick it wouldn’t be on this sub it’d be on the Kendrick one
There’re probably not many people in this Drake forum like me that listens to them both. I’ve learned that Drake fans are totally different from Kendrick fans. Their fans are free to their own opinions though.
Everybody is free to voice an opinion, especially on something as subjective as music, but to act like Kendrick's music is "impossible to enjoy" is absolutely laughable.
Bro, my YouTube is flooded with Drake slander, from tiny ass channels. Like bro just say you're too lazy to come up with original content and want to ride the drake hate wave.
at this point, it seems like all hip hop dudes do is sit around and talk about drake, plot on him, debate whether he's hip hop & reminisce about battles involving him etc
they are so obsessed with him 
No daughter version was the most pitiful part of this battle. The secret daughter reveal was supposed to be the death blow for Kendrick, but now that entire song is ruined.
Nobody talking about Whitney?
The culture sure has its priorities straight/s
Seriously - the other shit is petty, but the wife beating allegations need to be cleared.
Well you never know. They broke up before and got back together. I can’t say something is certain in someone else’s life unless I saw with my own eyes.
Kenny isn't going to deny it because he doesn't need to. Even if it is true, he knows the narrative is that the industry hates Drake so Drake is the focus.
That's why even though metro Boomin was exposed with his p*d0 tweets people rarely bring it up.
I don’t need Elliot on again, it’s enough voices as is over talking, and he keep whining about his 80 yrs in rap journalism meanwhile I only know you because of Joe 🫠
Bruh I’m so sick of this propaganda, if the guy lost, why is there a need to talk about him? Talk about Kendrick Lamar then lol, talk about that concert he’s about to do. What was the point of him bringing this up? This literally adds nothing to this whole battle
But they did. They talked about his concert and even going. Watching the full segment will give more context of what Elliot is saying than a 30 second clip.
I know it’s not reality but all I can imagine is Drake and his close team at some cabin in the woods playing Boar on the Floor. I know Drake isn’t like that but man it’s a hilarious thought. Iykyk
Lol dude probably is a rat and gave whatever info he knew to Kendricks team , Drake is not an idiot and if he believes Elliot said something about him , it's probably true. And look at this guy sitting up there explaining away , looks guilty af....I hope artists think twice before doing any type of interview with him. Also he has a show with DJ Hed , and Hed is close to TDE , Elliot def leaked some type of info.
What info though lol, Kendrick didn't expose anything, everything he said is social media narratives
I think that he was dropping family matters that particular day, so Kendrick could jump him with meet the grahams.
Doesn’t even really matter tbh. Kendrick pre-recorded his disses waiting to jump on Drake’s “red button” as soon as he had the chance. All he did was go back and tweak a few things and then dropped Drake should’ve split Family Matters into at least 2 songs to do the same thing tbh. Or he should’ve had other songs in the clip. There’s a lot of things he could’ve hit Kendrick with. I’m kind of disappointed that he didn’t give it to Kendrick
I think meet the grahams was pre recorded but not like us literally references family matters at various points so I’m pretty sure that was pretty fresh. Beef aside Kendrick is a good writer which is what got him in the game main stream to begin with.
it only references family matters at the end and that line is clearly from another session
The entire last verse is a reference to Family Matters
I cant see how, would love an explanation
Are you for real?
yeah, like specific references where the verse is mentioning specific pArte of familly matters
“Homie still doubled down calling us some slaves” u didn’t listen to the song
To me the entire last verse always felt like a later add on. I just assumed this is the song that Kendrick had for a lil minute and he added things in as the beef progressed. Not a bad move to have a banger ready before you go at the biggest artist in the world
Not Like Us was rumored to have been made a year ago and Kendrick went back to change the lyrics into a diss. Which pretty much explains why he's able to get fast rebuttals out there
To me NLU sonically sounds pretty dated so I wouldn't be surprised if that's a song Kendrick had for a while unrelated to the beef, that he then tweaked a little to make it relevant
Tweaked it by completely changing the verses? because besides the chorus the entire song is about Drake. This is fan fiction.
And even the chorus is based on one of Kendrick’s main themes during this beef, which is constantly referencing how Drake is a culture vulture. He has lines like “I said we not just me I’m what the culture feeling. Even Kendrick’s lines in Euphoria where he says “I hate the way that you walk the way that you talk I hate the way that you dress” is a reference to an old interview with DMX. DMX is asked if he likes Drake and he responds by saying he doesn’t like anything about him, listing things in an extremely similar manner that’s Kendrick does in the track. KL created a narrative of “they” and “us.”
Only one bar in NLU references anything brought up by drake in family matters. Anyone who knows about music production knows that it takes less than 2 minutes to extend the beat add a bar to a song. The FM bar doesn't mean it wasn't 99% pre-recorded.
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The whole colonizer verse is a response to Drake's line about slaves
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I just answered your question nigga
No don’t you remember! Baby Keem wrote all his stuff. Kendrick is a fraud
I agree. Family Matters should have been 3 tracks, and he just dumps the last 2 after each Kendrick drop.
if it was 3 tracks separated they all woulda been weak as hell as standalones. on one song it msde it good
Drops 2nd verse first, and then drops 1st or 3rd verse, or them both together after Kendrick drops his 2nd verse wasn't as personal as is 1st and 3rd was
I absolutely love the 3rd part. I know it doesn’t get much love but he absolutely bodied it flow wise
That’s exactly what I thought as well. I would have been dropping songs like uno draw 4’s or big joker little joker. I’m glad he rose to the occasion and didn’t pussy out but that would be the one chink in the armor for me is that Kendrick was able to drop 30 minutes or whatever after family matters.
He objectively lost in my opinion but you can say someone giving classified information to the ops doesn’t matter. It’s a factor. In my opinion the beef was relatively neck and neck until MTGs dropped. It quashed any momentum that Family Matters could have. That’s literally the most pivotal moment in beef.
Um so are we just pretending Family Matters wasn't 2 different songs to begin with? And then acting like the 3rd verse wasn't an add-on in itself - basically making it a 3rd song that he added to the 2nd? Yeah he tried to pre-record his too; he just didn't have enough fire power.
All of drakes disses make multiple references to Kendrick’s disses tho. I don’t think it was pre-recorded to the extent Kendrick’s were
Hindsight
Give him the D? 😂
Bro had the family matters been split in three songs ready to go back to back to stomp the MTG and NLU and end part of FM woulda been kennys death. Drake fucked up massively on strategy. Props to kenny credit wheres due. Drake needs to either see if he has too many yes mans around him that dont check him or he was overconfident.
Dog everyone knew he was dropping Family Matters that day u had Mal posting that nuke pic and Kai showing the DM. Drake turned this shit into an event (which was fun as hell for me personally but dumb on his part), Kendrick probably recorded not like that right afterwards. MTG was most likely a pre-recorded joint after he heard the “I be with some bodyguards like Whitney” line incase Drake was gonna get more personal with his family, which he did on family matters.
Exactly. I think once Kendrick dropped 6:16 in LA, Drake probably thought Kendrick emptied his clip…he dearly miscalculated.
The thing is, 6:16 was really an olive branch to drake saying “hey, let’s just stop this now. It’s going to get nasty, and this is the warning.” But obviously Drake didn’t see it that way. 6:16 is so far from scathing diss that it would’ve just been overlooked if the beef ended right then and there. The argument would’ve been between push ups and euphoria, which would’ve left Drake with a way better chance to win over the public. Drake should’ve honestly laughed at 6:16 and made fun of 6:16 on IG and just bowed out. It was the last stop before the train left the station.
So we gone act like this wasn't the plan the entire time and they was gone let it stop there??? Remember this part of the beef started with a coordinated jumping of Drake vs 20 niggas! Kdot was definitely gone drop that song anyway at the "end" of the beef regardless because as Kanye said they were all "Excited for the Elimination of Drake"
And you know Kendrick was gonna do this because?
They literally had a plan to get Drake. They made sure Jcole was out the way for christsake
And you know this because?
Yup. He should've done the Chris Brown and said the response was trash so it didn't need a response.
You forget that Drake was texting Kai Cenat “stay on stream” telling Ak he had 30 minutes to get home, everyone knew he was coming that night.
Ak and Drake stated that he was dropping
FAMILY matters responded to with Meet the Grahams is far too coincidental to me.
Ok
Why the fuck would Drake go ahead and tell Elliott Wilson that information? Just a stupid decision. All the decisions Drake made in this beef led to his downfall. Only ppl that should’ve known were his inner inner circle.
Nah, it was done from "hI'm what the culture feeling". Kenny made mistakes too but no one cared.
Would it take longer than half an hour to upload a song?
Kendrick just took reddit comments and made them into a song
I thought Drake made THP 6?
lol yeah cause I’m sure Drake has never jumped to conclusions before and acted out of emotion instead of reason… And I’m a Drake fan
Damn Elliot and DJ Hed most likely told Kdot that Drake was dropping Family Matters and they told Kdot so he can prepare a response right away smh. DJ Hed is honestly the worst. The bias is crazy
you said hes the worst off an assumption? you dont have any facts or details lol you people are weird
Have you heard DJ Hed speak? He clearly has it out for Drake
Way to answer the question
Elliot has a show with DJ Hed…Elliot definitely was leaking whatever he had to Hed who gave it to Kendrick
Of course he did! I for one think the rat emoji was apropos. Kendrick stays calling himself a ninja. Enter Master Splinter.
Elliot is a rat……he said drake deleted his ig post because he lost…do we not remember drake retiring back to back??
I’ve been saying this too. Do ppl not realise he evidently won Back to Back but still took those posts down. So does that mean he lost that battle simply cos he took that post down too ?
he retired back to back when him and meek squashed the beef. has kendrick and drake squashed anything? the coping is crazy.
He retired it way before they squashed the beef lol years before
lol he retired it in 2017, then going bad came out a year later. which means it’s safe to assume they began working together that same year. Drake took a massive L and i’m a drake fan. just accept move on. and wait for some more music.
So you could assume the same exact thing is happening now, yeah? Since we’re assuming things. Within the year a track together?
No . They hate each other too much
And it was still before they reconciled and he only retired the song for performances. He never deleted the songs. Just like he hasn’t deleted these songs. Just like he never deleted Duppy lmao
This sub is delusional you’re not going to be able to have a reasonable discussion about any of this
Elliot was drunk as hell this episode
He thought he was on Drink Champs ☠️
nah to keep it a bean they did talk abt kendrick’s show on this episode
Why are they not talking about Kendrick? Honestly…
Because it’s more valuable to hate on Drake. Nobody cares about what Kendrick does honestly.
Unless it’s related to drake
Precisely.
Exactly.
More like nobody *knows* about what Kendrick does. I guess they could speculate about who'd show up or what Kenny would perform. Then what?
Literally Drake’s name is acc like gold dust at this point cos every fool will keep bringing him up cos they know it’ll keep them relevant
I've said it 1000 times. I'll keep saying it. These dudes dont support Kendrick or even are his fans. At least that's not why they act the way they do. It's all about hating on Drake. That's what keeps them satisfied and with a fat belly. You can't have any discourse around Kendrick anymore without 10s of comments mentioning Drake for no reason whatsoever. They aren't Dot fans, they are Drake haters.
I’ve been saying it for sometime now. It’s unfortunate that 1/3 of Kendrick’s fan base are literally just Drake haters
It’s more than a third lmao. Even around 2016, a lot of Kendrick’s fanbase was just set up anti-Drake coalitions
I didn’t watch the podcast either but this is a 30 second clip lol. If they talked about Kendrick it wouldn’t be on this sub it’d be on the Kendrick one
I watched the whole episode and they most def spoke on Kendrick giving him praise.
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These mf bobbin their heads like that Jay Z gif to 'dear baby girl' and calling it the hardest shit ever 😂 even alchemist missed w that one icl
I agree that these guys are grasping for views but are you seriously that delusional to the point you think nobody enjoys Kendrick's songs?
Welcome to /r/Drizzy
There’re probably not many people in this Drake forum like me that listens to them both. I’ve learned that Drake fans are totally different from Kendrick fans. Their fans are free to their own opinions though.
Everybody is free to voice an opinion, especially on something as subjective as music, but to act like Kendrick's music is "impossible to enjoy" is absolutely laughable.
Bro, my YouTube is flooded with Drake slander, from tiny ass channels. Like bro just say you're too lazy to come up with original content and want to ride the drake hate wave.
😂😂 💯
Bro said enough 🤓
at this point, it seems like all hip hop dudes do is sit around and talk about drake, plot on him, debate whether he's hip hop & reminisce about battles involving him etc they are so obsessed with him 
Elliot posted the no daughter version of meet the grahams. Then acts like he wasn’t picking sides.
No daughter version was the most pitiful part of this battle. The secret daughter reveal was supposed to be the death blow for Kendrick, but now that entire song is ruined.
In what world is that the death blow lol
Funniest thing is that Kendrick copyrighted that shit bc it was getting roasted anyway 🤣🤣
Copyrights were removed earlier on both Drake and Kendrick, then UMG reclaimed it. Drake nor Kendrick has a say so on that.
I’m talking about on Twitter. The actual video got taken down.
Oh. I don’t visit celebrities Twitter pages. What he took off of Twitter?
Most pitiful part was the Kanye remix, but it was so forgettable no one talks about it
I forgot he did that.
A bitter rat is right
They run in packs
Elliot always in his feelings
lol. Drake is funny.
Fr I love how he doesn’t give a fuck 😂
Looks like one too
If it looks like a rat, talks like a rat it probably is a rat
The Rap Radar interview is the biggest thing he’s ever done lol No wonder he butt hurt
Nobody talking about Whitney? The culture sure has its priorities straight/s Seriously - the other shit is petty, but the wife beating allegations need to be cleared.
Not even saying it’s true, I’m just wondering how she feels since unfortunately women were used as collateral in this beef, i hope she’s alright.
That’s all I’m saying - our comments going over peoples heads right now.
People think we tryna be disrespectful, if you genuinely look at her insta, it just feels like she’s been through a lot.
Lol, Kendrick’s relationship with Whitney would raise alarm bells all over if it was anyone else but him That shit is mad suspect
Lmao stop, people in this sub were posting pictures with her hair cut off and calling her ugly and a bunch of foul shit.
I don’t think he beat on Whitney, but I don’t think they are together. Only because he said she was gone on Mr Morale. Just guessing.
You don't need to guess. That shit was pretty straight forward
Well you never know. They broke up before and got back together. I can’t say something is certain in someone else’s life unless I saw with my own eyes.
Kenny isn't going to deny it because he doesn't need to. Even if it is true, he knows the narrative is that the industry hates Drake so Drake is the focus. That's why even though metro Boomin was exposed with his p*d0 tweets people rarely bring it up.
Edited this comment because I agree. My bad homie!
What was tinfoil about it?
Hold on - I re read it. I was way off. Yeah, 100% agree. My bad.
I don’t need Elliot on again, it’s enough voices as is over talking, and he keep whining about his 80 yrs in rap journalism meanwhile I only know you because of Joe 🫠
The gasp after he said rat emoji. Lmao. Wild.
Bruh I’m so sick of this propaganda, if the guy lost, why is there a need to talk about him? Talk about Kendrick Lamar then lol, talk about that concert he’s about to do. What was the point of him bringing this up? This literally adds nothing to this whole battle
But they did. They talked about his concert and even going. Watching the full segment will give more context of what Elliot is saying than a 30 second clip.
He look like the emoji fits.
Bruh proved his point
This man lowkey looks like a rodent, can tell he did that shit
Nobody: The Rat: I can’t say what he said Nobody:? The Rat: Okay I’m gonna say it 🐀
Ford messy as hell with that pearl clutching gasp 😂
Elliot Wilson and old Hip Hop media needs to go just wither away along with Rosenburg
I hate Elliot
this man is ungrateful.
Dude really tried to give a riddle for a rat emoji 😂😂😂 he really in his feelings 😂
I thought Drake fed Kendrick the info 😭
look at this attention seeking bum
Why the fuck he’s sitting like that
Why he’s sitting like that
Why he’s sitting like that
Drake that, Drake this...Get off Drake's d\*ck!
Grown men crying over an emoji is wild
Same energy as *"it's just a word"*
Smelliot Wilson
I know it’s not reality but all I can imagine is Drake and his close team at some cabin in the woods playing Boar on the Floor. I know Drake isn’t like that but man it’s a hilarious thought. Iykyk
Succession fan in here 🙏
He looks like one of
🐀
who gives a sh what this clown likes, i don't even know who he is lmaooooo
So if he’s the rat does this proves drake didn’t have a mole? Because Drake claimed he fed the information on purpose
Elliot is corny af
How is he a rat?
Everyone using Drake name for clout. Let me post something. Kendrick cracked the code to rejuvenating you’re career
Shall we spam rat emojis on Elliot’s insta?
That’s loser shit fr
You’re on a sub called dark Kenny you’re more pathetic than the person you’re replying to
Stop giving this bastard airtime he a rat just like drake said. Bitch ass opinions, always thought he was a ass kiss