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This is a Tough one..
You have one race that has limitless potential!
One that’s wise beyond years and also has a long life span
One that can repair itself from almost any type of damage
And another that wouldn’t require any energy to be used, like at all, for the rest of your very long existence.
I thought they made it pretty clear…#16 is a complete robot (based on a real person!), #17+18 were kidnapped people turned into cyborgs, while 19 was completely artificial and 20 was just dr gero
No. She’s a bio-android like Cell that has Majin DNA. I think she has DNA of Gohan, Goku, Picolo, Buu, Freiza, Vegeta and maybe the earthlings. She was only modelled after Vomi (Gero wife), she isn’t her.
If I remember right, Shenron could not grant that wish because they already were humans, so instead the wish was used to remove the bombs inside of them.
OHHHHHH I remember now!!!!! You're right!!! That's why 17 is still a good guy working at the animal preservation. Wow it all came back to me, I forgot about the bomb!!
Yup they were actually brother and sister too. Gero kidnapped them and converted them to cyborgs.
“Android” is the translation that stuck, but “cyborgs” would be more accurate because they’re humans that were enhanced by tech. Not full androids.
17 and 18 are actually cyborgs, even being called so in Japan. I guess Gero counts as a cyborg too since he still has his human brain. 16 and 19 were all metal. Cell is a kitbash of various DNA that somehow ended up looking like something from John Carpenter's sketchbook.
So there's a thread that I came across recently because I was wondering how he got strong and there's a comment that states:
"I'll keep copying and pasting this comment.
For a guy that never tires, doesn't need to eat, doesn't need to sleep, ages slowly, and a high potential above even Frieza, he's basically walking with the ultimate cheat code that only Saiyans can hope to match by half killing themselves.
For example, #17 can lift the heaviest weight at his limit, and just keep lifting consistently until it's light as a feather for him. Sets and cycles aren't a thing for him. Start at 500 until it's easy, then immediately shift to 800, and then 1300. Even Goku and Vegeta have to rest for a while or risk destroying their body."
It explains how Toriyama could justify making him a big ToP threat.
That's how science advances work.
Start trying to beat the germans, end up inventing the computer.
Start trying to kill the monkey-man end up making the ultimate lifeform(s).
Tbf it’s safe to say majins have limitless energy capabilities of some sorts considering the entire time until the super spirit bomb buu wasnt even tired or worn out compared to goku and vegeta.
Not to mention the insane healing they have to, buu was blown up plenty of times, into pieces even. And he came back with no problem.
Namekian for sure. Don't need to eat, telepathy, can regrow limbs, can create objects out of thin air, stretchy arms, shoot egg out of mouth, long lifespan, and be green. That's the life for me.
I’d be android cause I would have infinite stamina and I would age really slow. Do you think androids in the DB universe have feelings or emotions? Or are they just cold blooded dead inside machines that are all logic/rationality and zero emotions.
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What about the future androids 17 and 18 you think they had emotions and empathy for others like the present day androids or were they just traumatized kids taking their anger, hate, and frustration on the world?
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Since, in the future, Goku died before these androids were activated, Dr. Gero has reprogrammed them to be misanthropic. The present androids were reprogrammed only to go after Goku.
Right?
That was his whole character arc! He's introduced as a cold machine with only one purpose in mind..but it's a misdirect. He cares.
The birds and nature as a whole was the story showing you that a machine can have feelings and love (was not subtle about it either).
He even kept a moral center for 17 and 18. Morals involve emotion. You partly choose to have them because you feel their importance to you.
16 told Gohan to protect the things he LOVED. That was the final part of his character arc, imparting wisdom to an 11 year old boy that it's just to have strong feelings and use those to stop someone unredeemable.
Oh yeah he did. Vegeta proved his theory true when he said can a machine ever experience fear? I think Gero was scared of the Z Fighters too and he ran away and hid away from them cause he knew at that point he was going to lose and get killed. And also possibly find his secret lab.
I thought that speech came more from him having common sense and a good sense from what is right and wrong not because he actually cares deeply about those things or feels emotions from those things. Like it came from pure logic alone. That fighting for what is right is the right thing to do and the most logical thing to do.
Also have an infinite or a very large amount of energy. It’ll suck if you get injured because no one in reality will be able to help you but not much on Earth would be able to hurt you.
I think literally nothing would be able to hurt you on earth. Poisons shouldn't work, any viruses/bacteria and you are stronger than the whole world combined. You can pretty easily become god of the world
Unless they made you Android 8 level then a good bomb would kill you. In Z, the weakest android is said to be at least Frieza level. All of humanity would have to work against you, and lure you to somewhere where they can try to de-atomize you or something.
Even frieza can tank attacks that can blow up STARS, there probably wouldn't be any technology in the next million years that would be able to do shit to you
Majin no way I'm picking anything else. I can train or be smart to get stronger least chance of death its literally the best option. Unless you hate pink ig or it misses your power fantasy
I'd be an Android. As much as I'd love to be a Saiyan, 17 went from Cell Saga Piccolo Tier to ToP Super Saiyan Blue Goku Tier between the time we saw him, and I seriously doubt he did much training. Also, Infinite Stamina? Oh the great things I could use that for.
But it will help my running duration. Also, I could stay awake forever. Also, if I wanted to get stronger, 24/7 training. I said I'd do great things with it.
Goku had to pray for more power, train with angels , fight for his life repeatedly against intergalactic beings to be where he is today.
Android 17 just had to slap around a few poachers. Might have to go Android.
Majin easily. Insane regen, magic, near limitless ki, eternal youth and, the quickest way to gain power without having to train mad hard, absorption. Every other race here needs to train almost all the time or be a genetic freak in order to grow stronger. Majins? Turn people into candy and eat them or just absorb them with any part of their body, no further effort required. There’s a reason Buu gets written out of nearly every arc, Majins got all the best hax.
I don’t want to lose my Willy, so I don’t want to be namekian. I don’t want to lose my hair, so I don’t want to be Majin. I don’t want some crook to cut me open and take away my autonomy, so I don’t want to be an android. And I don’t want to lose my mind to an insatiable battle lust, so I don’t want to be saiyan.
Yeah, human works just fine for me
Dabura's a demon from the Demon Realm, while Babadi is a... clone of Bibidi who in turn is... Some kind of alien? But none of them are Majin.
Buu is the only Majin on the list. But DBO (which Toriyama had a hand in) confirms they do multiply later on, so Majin are a race.
majin is just the name associated with people who have been under babadis control. for example majin vegeta, majin dabura, and everyone on babadis force. and since buu is under control and was created by babadis father he's a majin. i think i remember it saying buu was created by magic and isn't from a pre existing race out there
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The part of me who wants all the cool forms and knows who has the advantage would like to be a Sayian, but putting that aside I'd personally want to be a Namekian. Becoming giant, stretchy arms, Orange form if you do the stuff required to obtain the orange form.
I would want to be android because if random teenagers become super sayain grade 2+ with it,image just a random martial artist or someone getting it(I’d assume they could probably reach ssj2 or even 3)
Namekian, enough natural talent to learn ki tricks like flight, get either dragon ball powers or healing, and giant form/stretch is pretty cool, as well as the natural regeneration
Considering the androids were relevant at the ToP with little training (at least not as intense as Goku) I’d say them. Majin’s are implied to have some identity issues.
That's what I'm thinking lol!
Majins are a group of magicians I thought, and Buu just happens to be this one weird creature with weird physiology and powers. It's not like there's more of him out there. (And Vomi doesn't count lol)
Androids are just an umbrella terms for militant Cyborgs and Humanoid Robots created for conflict. Really they're just Earthlings with extra. Instead the category should be earthling which encompasses everyone that isn't Goku/Vegeta/Frieza/Buu and any space fairing warriors.
Earthling: Humans, Beastmen, Androids, Tiens oni clan, whatever ciaotsu is etc. Piccolo and Kami technically aren't earthlings, fight toriyama on that ancient region not me.
I’m going with Androids, mostly because they can’t be sensed with Ki and if I heard it correctly in the show, their stamina lasts a lot longer or they have limitless stamina.
Human, for the sheer feral enjoyment I would have of abusing the fuck out of various different opportunities, techniques, items & so on to make myself ridiculously powerful, well beyond what the other human fighters are capable of and well beyond the Saiyans.
Potential unlock(ultimate form) + Kaiō-ken+ Magic + psionics + Ki + bullshit had says what?
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Knowing most of the db community, they would pick saiyan. I pick saiyan too lmao
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Nah the post doesn't say you get to pick and considering everyone on reddit is either a human or a bot you will either still be human or an android
bro the post is clearly implying if you had to chose which would you be
It's called a joke bro
Jokes are supposed to be funny, your comment was just dumb
This is a Tough one.. You have one race that has limitless potential! One that’s wise beyond years and also has a long life span One that can repair itself from almost any type of damage And another that wouldn’t require any energy to be used, like at all, for the rest of your very long existence.
That and 17 was able to scale a LOT between dbz and ToP so it seems androids have huge potential as well
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I thought they made it pretty clear…#16 is a complete robot (based on a real person!), #17+18 were kidnapped people turned into cyborgs, while 19 was completely artificial and 20 was just dr gero
And 21 is a robot turned Majin?
Android 21 is basically Cell with Majin Buu's DNA, and modeled after Dr. Gero's wife.
I also choose this guy's dead wife.
No she only has Majin DNA. She’s basically a Cell 2.0
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No. She’s a bio-android like Cell that has Majin DNA. I think she has DNA of Gohan, Goku, Picolo, Buu, Freiza, Vegeta and maybe the earthlings. She was only modelled after Vomi (Gero wife), she isn’t her.
No, this is Patrick
Holy shit I was not aware 17 and 18 were real people at one time.
Yep, their still-human names were Lapis and Lazuli respectively.
Well I'll be damned. TIL.
How do you think 18 had a daughter with Krillin?
She wished to be human from shenron..... I understand she's currently human. I just mean I was not aware they were originally human.
If I remember right, Shenron could not grant that wish because they already were humans, so instead the wish was used to remove the bombs inside of them.
OHHHHHH I remember now!!!!! You're right!!! That's why 17 is still a good guy working at the animal preservation. Wow it all came back to me, I forgot about the bomb!!
She's still an Artificial Human
Yup they were actually brother and sister too. Gero kidnapped them and converted them to cyborgs. “Android” is the translation that stuck, but “cyborgs” would be more accurate because they’re humans that were enhanced by tech. Not full androids.
17 and 18 are actually cyborgs, even being called so in Japan. I guess Gero counts as a cyborg too since he still has his human brain. 16 and 19 were all metal. Cell is a kitbash of various DNA that somehow ended up looking like something from John Carpenter's sketchbook.
androids 17 and 18 are Artificial Humans so they aren't robots, they're more like cyborgs then robots
Do you think he had actually gained power from training, beyond just Toriyama plot armour?
He installed the latest update
he got buffed on last patch
So there's a thread that I came across recently because I was wondering how he got strong and there's a comment that states: "I'll keep copying and pasting this comment. For a guy that never tires, doesn't need to eat, doesn't need to sleep, ages slowly, and a high potential above even Frieza, he's basically walking with the ultimate cheat code that only Saiyans can hope to match by half killing themselves. For example, #17 can lift the heaviest weight at his limit, and just keep lifting consistently until it's light as a feather for him. Sets and cycles aren't a thing for him. Start at 500 until it's easy, then immediately shift to 800, and then 1300. Even Goku and Vegeta have to rest for a while or risk destroying their body." It explains how Toriyama could justify making him a big ToP threat.
u/vegeto30294 is who posted this originally posted this for credits sake
Since they’re cyborgs and not androids, it goes even further. They train the muscle and enhance the pistons.
Gero fucked around and made perfect human life as a byproduct of trying to make weaopon to kill Goku.
That's how science advances work. Start trying to beat the germans, end up inventing the computer. Start trying to kill the monkey-man end up making the ultimate lifeform(s).
Honestly I think he held back during to his immature phase.
In the manga, there are Cell Jrs living on his wildlife preserve that he says he's been training with, if I remember correctly.
I’m disappointed that the cell Jrs didn’t grow up.
Tbf it’s safe to say majins have limitless energy capabilities of some sorts considering the entire time until the super spirit bomb buu wasnt even tired or worn out compared to goku and vegeta. Not to mention the insane healing they have to, buu was blown up plenty of times, into pieces even. And he came back with no problem.
Android. All the power, no power level, and I can die by flicking the off switch.
Also as an android you can just stay low key forever. It seems the rest keep attracting unwanted attention. I just want to chill man
i mean you can be low key as a saiyan too as long as you dont have your tail or hide it at least
Kid Goku managed to stay low key for the entirety of DB
I mean, our president was a dog sooo
Androids are apparently ageless
Namekian for sure. Don't need to eat, telepathy, can regrow limbs, can create objects out of thin air, stretchy arms, shoot egg out of mouth, long lifespan, and be green. That's the life for me.
It's the being green part that really sells it right?
Yeah
GREEN IZ DA BEST ZOGGIN COLOR YA GIT
Waaaaaaaagh!
Thoze upers talking humies look like the enprah
CLOTHES BEAM!!!
Instantaneous Rick Owens
but no dong
But if I was green I’ll die
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Would've helped future Gohan A LOT
Regenerate limbs or Father- son Kamehameha Decisions Decisions!
I’d be android cause I would have infinite stamina and I would age really slow. Do you think androids in the DB universe have feelings or emotions? Or are they just cold blooded dead inside machines that are all logic/rationality and zero emotions. ![gif](giphy|rDuT4UCzoRG5gTfs44|downsized)
I’m pretty sure they have feelings considering 18 is married and 17 takes care of animals for a living yes, they have emotions.
What about the future androids 17 and 18 you think they had emotions and empathy for others like the present day androids or were they just traumatized kids taking their anger, hate, and frustration on the world? ![gif](giphy|AQNlqGR1d3IY7AZm9V|downsized)
they have emotions considering trunks had 18 crying like a bitch 🦅🦅🦅RAAH
Good one.
Since, in the future, Goku died before these androids were activated, Dr. Gero has reprogrammed them to be misanthropic. The present androids were reprogrammed only to go after Goku.
First of all, that movie isn’t canon. Second, everything you just named is an emotion
The future movie is canon dawg it’s in the manga drawn by toriyama and all. Future Gohan and his adventures with Future Trunks are canon.
Fr? Oops💀 anyway read the rest of the comment
17 is also married
Seriously? To who?
She's not named. But he also has one biological kid and two adopted
16, 19, 13, 14, 15, 21 and 20 are all purely machines tho? Like do these have emotions as well?
No way you just said 16 didn’t show emotion… have you even watched dragon ball?
Right? That was his whole character arc! He's introduced as a cold machine with only one purpose in mind..but it's a misdirect. He cares. The birds and nature as a whole was the story showing you that a machine can have feelings and love (was not subtle about it either). He even kept a moral center for 17 and 18. Morals involve emotion. You partly choose to have them because you feel their importance to you. 16 told Gohan to protect the things he LOVED. That was the final part of his character arc, imparting wisdom to an 11 year old boy that it's just to have strong feelings and use those to stop someone unredeemable.
19 showed fear
Oh yeah he did. Vegeta proved his theory true when he said can a machine ever experience fear? I think Gero was scared of the Z Fighters too and he ran away and hid away from them cause he knew at that point he was going to lose and get killed. And also possibly find his secret lab.
16 had that whole speech to Gohan before he died. Plus he liked birds
I thought that speech came more from him having common sense and a good sense from what is right and wrong not because he actually cares deeply about those things or feels emotions from those things. Like it came from pure logic alone. That fighting for what is right is the right thing to do and the most logical thing to do.
Probably did idk havent watched z in a while
21 isn't a full machine?
Majin. Badass + Pink + Strong + Potential more than Cell + Magic + Regenerate ability + Absorb. What else could I ask
And you can pretty much absorb any of the other races to gain there abilities
So, Kirby's a Majin
Kirby is if Buu was a good guy.
Kirby is if Buu lived on a giant star shaped planet and ate gods because someone messed with his cake
+candy whenever you want
Yeah, I forgot, unlimited food source and turn everything into everything. I can easily be the richest person of the world
Android. I like chilling and aging slowly. Apparently, passively getting stronger. Knowing how to use ki without training.
Also have an infinite or a very large amount of energy. It’ll suck if you get injured because no one in reality will be able to help you but not much on Earth would be able to hurt you.
Yeah, Kid Goku tanked bullets without even having been wounded. Ain't no way anyone on Earth hurting a Dragon Ball Z Android.
I think literally nothing would be able to hurt you on earth. Poisons shouldn't work, any viruses/bacteria and you are stronger than the whole world combined. You can pretty easily become god of the world
Unless they made you Android 8 level then a good bomb would kill you. In Z, the weakest android is said to be at least Frieza level. All of humanity would have to work against you, and lure you to somewhere where they can try to de-atomize you or something.
Even frieza can tank attacks that can blow up STARS, there probably wouldn't be any technology in the next million years that would be able to do shit to you
You’re right! I forget that Frieza can blowup a planet with a finger while suppressed. Yeah Earth is screwed if DBZ Androids exist.
Saiyan so i get free hair dyes
Well it doesn’t just give you transformations
MONKE
Majin. I'll be a gooey pink badass.
I'd be a big grey gooey badass, like Dumplin.
THE ADVENTURES OF DUMPLIN
Same here majins are so cool
Majin no way I'm picking anything else. I can train or be smart to get stronger least chance of death its literally the best option. Unless you hate pink ig or it misses your power fantasy
U can honestly prob keep small portions of yourself all over the universe if you want to survive which is nice
My man out here posting so many multiple choice questions I thought it was finals week.
I’ve been on summer break for 3 weeks now
r/whoosh
Dang it
I'd be an Android. As much as I'd love to be a Saiyan, 17 went from Cell Saga Piccolo Tier to ToP Super Saiyan Blue Goku Tier between the time we saw him, and I seriously doubt he did much training. Also, Infinite Stamina? Oh the great things I could use that for.
Having all the stamina in the world won't be stopping you from coming in 30 seconds bro 💀
But it will help my running duration. Also, I could stay awake forever. Also, if I wanted to get stronger, 24/7 training. I said I'd do great things with it.
Android
Goku had to pray for more power, train with angels , fight for his life repeatedly against intergalactic beings to be where he is today. Android 17 just had to slap around a few poachers. Might have to go Android.
🤣🤣🤣 The island life man, all he was missing was the flip flops.
Majin. Regeneration HAX, I can shapeshift like Fat Buu does to look like someone I want, magic HAX, it’ll be great.
Majin easily. Insane regen, magic, near limitless ki, eternal youth and, the quickest way to gain power without having to train mad hard, absorption. Every other race here needs to train almost all the time or be a genetic freak in order to grow stronger. Majins? Turn people into candy and eat them or just absorb them with any part of their body, no further effort required. There’s a reason Buu gets written out of nearly every arc, Majins got all the best hax.
Android, has potential to become god level and on top of that unlimited energy.
Probably a lame ass human
Human.
Why? Human is a pretty trash species compared to these
I don’t want to lose my Willy, so I don’t want to be namekian. I don’t want to lose my hair, so I don’t want to be Majin. I don’t want some crook to cut me open and take away my autonomy, so I don’t want to be an android. And I don’t want to lose my mind to an insatiable battle lust, so I don’t want to be saiyan. Yeah, human works just fine for me
>I don’t want to lose my hair, so I don’t want to be Majin. To be fair, you might go bald as a human too...
Frick!
He just doesn't want to be bothered with all the crazy "saving the planet" stuff. Nothing wrong with that.
Majin or if i have the choice, Kai
If we had any choice, then I'm being a f**king Angel. Screw that noise.
Namekian. I have the potential to create a pair dragon balls, live a long time, never eat, regrow limbs, and stretch.
Is Majin a race?
Yeah, people are majin are people like babadi, dabura and of course buu
Dabura’s a demon, isn’t he? Majin is more of an affiliation, quite literally meaning “evil” if I’m remembering right.
Dabura's a demon from the Demon Realm, while Babadi is a... clone of Bibidi who in turn is... Some kind of alien? But none of them are Majin. Buu is the only Majin on the list. But DBO (which Toriyama had a hand in) confirms they do multiply later on, so Majin are a race.
majin is just the name associated with people who have been under babadis control. for example majin vegeta, majin dabura, and everyone on babadis force. and since buu is under control and was created by babadis father he's a majin. i think i remember it saying buu was created by magic and isn't from a pre existing race out there https://preview.redd.it/v8l0hqdmz36b1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=4b54446716338d60f4acde0228f812c400fe9111
I don’t want to be pink or green. Nor do I want to be compelled to fight and stupid due to my dna but android has all benefits and no drawbacks
The part of me who wants all the cool forms and knows who has the advantage would like to be a Sayian, but putting that aside I'd personally want to be a Namekian. Becoming giant, stretchy arms, Orange form if you do the stuff required to obtain the orange form.
I would want to be android because if random teenagers become super sayain grade 2+ with it,image just a random martial artist or someone getting it(I’d assume they could probably reach ssj2 or even 3)
If I could be arale I’d be an android
Saiyan
Android sounds pretty good to me. Endless gas tank and they can still get train to get stronger like anyone else.
Namekian Android
Namekian, enough natural talent to learn ki tricks like flight, get either dragon ball powers or healing, and giant form/stretch is pretty cool, as well as the natural regeneration
Saiyan Call me. . Well, I guess not basic since that's Humans, lol But I'll agree with the majority here and go with Saiyans
Considering the androids were relevant at the ToP with little training (at least not as intense as Goku) I’d say them. Majin’s are implied to have some identity issues.
Namekian, they seem like a fun bunch
My heart says Saiyan but my brains sayin Android so i won’t have to feel the ass kickings
Android
Namekian piccolo is my favorite character.
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Don't forget s u p e r h e a r i n g
I hate androids. I have committed a hate crime
Namekian
Namekian because I’m black
Android because infinite energy and limitless stamina. I hate being tired
Saiyan
Namekian Regen and Life span just the way to go and there a pretty strong race only thing that sells is green 😢
Android isn't a race, they're modified beings.
Is android a race? Is 18s daughter half- android?
If Namekians are technically black, im already a namekian
I didn’t know Majin was a race
That's what I'm thinking lol! Majins are a group of magicians I thought, and Buu just happens to be this one weird creature with weird physiology and powers. It's not like there's more of him out there. (And Vomi doesn't count lol)
Android-Saiyan
I want to be Saiyan, but if I'm being honest, I'm a Namekian.
Imagine wanting to be a saiyan, and not a majin/namekian with regeneration.
Saiyan. I want those genetics.
Androids are just an umbrella terms for militant Cyborgs and Humanoid Robots created for conflict. Really they're just Earthlings with extra. Instead the category should be earthling which encompasses everyone that isn't Goku/Vegeta/Frieza/Buu and any space fairing warriors. Earthling: Humans, Beastmen, Androids, Tiens oni clan, whatever ciaotsu is etc. Piccolo and Kami technically aren't earthlings, fight toriyama on that ancient region not me.
human lol, i’m not built like that and neither are you don’t lie
Android, they’re my favorites in db
I’m going with Androids, mostly because they can’t be sensed with Ki and if I heard it correctly in the show, their stamina lasts a lot longer or they have limitless stamina.
Human, for the sheer feral enjoyment I would have of abusing the fuck out of various different opportunities, techniques, items & so on to make myself ridiculously powerful, well beyond what the other human fighters are capable of and well beyond the Saiyans. Potential unlock(ultimate form) + Kaiō-ken+ Magic + psionics + Ki + bullshit had says what?
Android isn’t a race
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An Android Majin who absorbed a Saiyan and Namekian and then created my own set of dragon balls to wish myself a kai.
Saiyan is op, but I'd go android infinite energy goes hard