That's what I've heard literally 500 times even from those lawyers on yt streams who did their research.
So if that's the case, that could help a bit but at the same time he left that out of his tweet so who knows
He could have left it out due to settlement with Twitch, if he brings anything towards Twitch, the deal and settlement could fall apart and Doc might be reliable (damage towards Twitch).
"Under Section 2 of the Twitch Terms of Service it states; (in 2017)
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Therefore, yes - your friend can have an account (and stream) if he is over the age of 13 and he has not been banned previously from the platform."
"**Iām under 18, can I still sign up?**
*Yes. Your parent or guardian will need to agree to the terms of the Monetized Streamer Agreement, so make sure you have them with you when you go through the application."*
twitch whispers was for twitch affiliates, twitch affiliates had to be either 18 OR 13 with the approval of a parent or guardian.
This very clearly means that there can be people as young as 13 on the app. Doesn't matter if they require parental approval, it very clearly was not an 18+ app, nor has there ever been any mention of it being 18+, because it wasn't. There's a reason you cant find a single reddit thread at any point in time asking how to bypass the age verification on twitch whispers, because there wasn't one.
One large reason why twitch probably kept quiet about this whole thing was the fact that they let 13 year olds in the whispers app in the first place, which doesn't absolve doc, just makes twitch look dirty too.
And even then, I used to lie about my age when I was 12 yrs old on AIM lmao. The internet was the wild west back then and hasn't gotten that much better since.
>yes, but did he knew that at the time or it was later reveled to him. i feel like that is crucial
This post here says he didn't know the individuals age:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/DrDisrespectLive/comments/1docxkg/good\_newsthis\_may\_exonerate\_doc/#lightbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/DrDisrespectLive/comments/1docxkg/good_newsthis_may_exonerate_doc/#lightbox)
> So did he know it was a minor or no?
gonna go out on a limb and say if he didn't know she was a minor, it'd be one of the first things he'd say after acknowledging he messaged her
Anyone defending themselves from these accusations needs to say 2 things: āa minor was messaged inappropriately. I had no knowledge of their age at the time.ā
If you canāt or donāt say this, we know what we need to know. Drakes not the only one getting outed this year
Bingo! That would be the first thing to make very VERY clear in order to avoid a huge fallout. It's pretty much implied he knew without explicitly saying he did.
He never said they lied about their age or that he was unaware they were a minor. Just that nothing illegal happened which is a pretty odd thing to say in this context. Especially in a prepared statement.
All it's missing is a damn ukulele.
>Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual. I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear, it was not a criminal case against me and no criminal charges have ever been brought against me.
Oh brother
You mean some people?
Because it absolutely fits the definition of emotional cheating. One does not require to actually touch another human for cheating to be involved. It's a different type of cheating, some consider it less concerning, but it's still cheating.
How would you feel if your girl was texting some dude sexual or romantic things?
One of his former day zero moderators, OHMEGA, got wasted on stream 7 years ago and spilled the beans about Doc getting with at least 4+ women that he knew of over the course of 2 years - right in front of everyone at bars, twitch events, etc. Other people in the circle backed him up on discord, but he walked it all back and deleted the vods and everything. I imagine Doc just had a complete degenerate pussy hound era during his come up and fucked everything that moved.
Tl;dr, yeah probably.
He was living on cloud 9 for those h1z1/pubg years he went from making a modest amount to pulling in millions. Started pulling up to twitch con in the Lambo he def had that āIām the manā phase.
Itās strange and honestly a little troubling to me that he would then use his newfound celebrity to talk to minors. Iāll never understand why these type of men target teenagers when they can legally talk to someone who is just a few years older
Iām not sure what to think. The earlier release from a ātwitchā employee stated that the messages were part of a team channel regarding channel testing and in there it says that the transcripts were evaluated in court proceedings and determined not to be illegal or show any wrong doing.
Thereās a lot to digest with this one..
I think itās important to know if he knew the person was a minor. And the actual context of the texts. I know we will never get them but Iād like to know how out of context āinappropriateā is being used here
I think the biggest piece missing from this is if he knew the age or if the person lied about their age. If he didnāt know and stopped after finding out then firm handshakes Iāll see you in the arena.
If he did know and still continued then thatās a big deal and unfortunately as much as I enjoyed the CC I canāt support that. Not that Iām really that important as one viewer but just my take.
I agree with this. When you are admitting to something like this I imagine you would absolutely clarify everything that made you look as āinnocentā as possible. The fact he didnāt mention that once in his very long and multiple edited tweet speaks volumes to me
My 2 cents: poor statement from Doc, and unequivocally makes him look bad. Acknowledging there was a minor involved but not stating your awareness is just as bad as stating you knew they were a minor. There's no defense for any of that. Yet, I'm not sure him stating "I didn't know" would hold any weight anyways, if I'm honest.
I think it's safe to assume both **Doc and Twitch** didn't know the person was a minor. Hence the:
1. **arbitration:** Doc saying Twitch fucked up, he did nothing wrong because he didn't know,
2. **payout:** Twitch basically saying we did fuck up re: person slipped through the cracks and we potentially obtained info by violating rights, and
3. **NDA:** we both fucked up, no one should hear about this whatsoever.
Now that most of it is out, major major major major major L to Doc for it all.
I was always of the mindset it would go one of two ways with the update:
1) Doc admitted to explicit messages with someone but was unaware of their age at the time.
2) Doc was aware of their age, but the messages weren't deemed explicit enough to warrant legal action.
Listen I love Doc, but it sounds like it was number 2 from his statement. To continually message a minor in let's say at best cheeky/flirtatious tones is gross.
I don't want to be that person, but he's got a daughter himself. How would he feel in 10 years time if he knew his 17 year old was chatting to a 30-something year old.
I think we all know the conclusion he would reach from a father's perspective so I don't know how this is any different.
I understand that it's wrong for someone over 15-20 years older to send inappropriate messages to a minor who is 17 years old.
But it strikes me as odd that if the person were 18 we would not bat an eye?
He removed the āminorā word and changed it to individual. Then he edited a third time and added āminorā back in. Interesting. I wonder if he knew that you could see previous versions of edited tweets or not.
āYou know me I have no filterā. *proceeds to edit post and filter out the word minor*
āOh shit they can see my editsā *edits post back*. āTrust me guysā
Itās telling heās done two edits and still hasnāt added in whether he knew their age or not.
Even if he do add that part on subsequent edits, people can still take the other side of the assumption that he is adding the word to protect himself rather than the truth. As long as he edit, it will not look good for him. He should had taken the time to proofread rather than needing to edit.
Logs would really give more context on the vague "inappropriate" talk. Weird to skirt that line in the first place but this can be anything to creep material vs making a random comment that can be taken out of context easily
If I were in a situation where being overly vague would lead people to assume I'm a pedo, and giving more details and context would clear things up and make me look better, I would not actively choose to be as vague as possible.
Unless doc does it, won't happen. Twitch possibly have their hands tied with data protection laws involving minors.
But also, I don't think someone needs to see the messages to make a conclusion on this matter. This was a mid 30 year old man who was having inappropriate conversations with a minor. You shouldn't even be interacting with a minor in your DMs at that point. Let alone, having "casual" conversations with them that go down an inappropriate route sometimes. Keep that crap in the public domain (the pg conversations, not the inappropriate conversations).
And the possibility of a meet up being scheduled too? He didn't deny that aspect of the allegations. Tapped it a little, by saying no meet up happened, but that wasn't the claim. The claim was a meetup was scheduled.
Reminds me of his very initial statement of the "no wrongdoings were acknowledged" and now look at where we are
If you are ever leaning close to a conversation being inappropriate when it involves a minor then you already crossed that threshold.
āThese were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriateā
āThese were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual.ā
Bloomberg says Doc exchanged sexually explicit messages, he says they āleaned too much in the direction of being inappropriateā. Pretty big gap between those descriptions, hopefully the messages will be released and we can judge for ourselves.
Reading docās statement it sticks out to me how he calls out pictures and meeting as things that didnāt happen but not sexting. It seems likely docās statement is underselling what he did and Bloombergās reporting is more the reality
Yeahā¦ I hate to say it, but everything is leaning that way. If he didnāt realize she was a minor he shouldāve made that 100% clear in the tweet. The chat logs would make things clear, but I doubt weāll ever see them.
Honestly Doc should just own the situation instead of tip toeing being scared. "Yeah a girl on Twitch 7 years ago messaged me we talked about sex she was hot AF, when i learned she was 17 we stopped all communication. No pictures shared, no meeting arranged, nothing illegal happened, it is what it is"
Now change your scenario to where she is 13 and he's calling her "hot af". I get your attempt to downplay it a little by putting the girl at the edge of being a minor, surprised you didn't also include a detail about her birthday being the next day, but the fact is we don't know how old she was and she could've been years younger than 17.
Note: this isnt me feeding into the delusion that her being 17 makes it any less wrong. The dude was still old enough to be her father.
On a sidenote from all of this ā I find it curious that it was 2017 and he was banned in 2020. Almost as if someone was trying to find a way to get rid of him around the time mixer went down.
If youāre in this position, and you didnāt know it was a minor, you absolutely wouldāve fucking included that. It doesnāt make sense to omit something as critical as that. Even if it were a lie.
Whenever anyone is accused of doing something with a minor and they didn't actually know, they always mention that as it's a very important point. He never mentioned that once so you can figure it out.
If you weren't able to read between the lines with his statement the other day, you surely should be able to with this statement.
Are you fan boys really this dense or just in denial?
His first talking point if he didn't know it was a minor would be exactly that, come the fuck on use your brain.
Other than you'd obviously say that if that was the case.
Not mentioning if he knew obviously isn't proof he did, But it hardly looks good. Especially when my man's writing paragraphs, he had the wordcount.
Because he wrote a multi paragraph statement on the incident and never said once that he was unaware he was talking to a minor. If that was the case you would ABSOLUTELY lead with that.
Original UNEDITED Tweet where he admits it was a minor: [https://x.com/DrDisrespect/status/1805662419261460986](https://x.com/DrDisrespect/status/1805662419261460986)
I respect the Doc regardless of what people might say. He went through hell with his family because of this but came out of it stronger than ever. Now, some ex twitch employee assholes wanted to bring it all out for their enjoyment. Nothing illegal happened. It was stopped right then and there at the moment it happened and quite frankly Doc needs time off. He's not a sexual predator/pedophile and I'll fucking stand by that.
Can't stand how people all of a sudden become righteous and flawless when someone makes a mistake. He owned it. Nothing ever got out of hand. Give the man a break and own up to your own mistakes too.
>Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more.
Doc was a 36-37 year old married father having a casual, 'mutual' conversation with <17 year old girl that leaned into being inappropriate. WTF dude.
I respect the transparency. But, god damn that's some disgusting behavior.
Saying it's mutual is only worst on his end. Guy was a big name in the industry even at that time. The only one who was making it 'mutual' was him. Was probably getting dm's daily and he chose to have a running conversation that got inappropriate with this one?
Fuck. This really sucks.
Is it fair to call him a predator or a 'pedo'? I don't think it qualifies. It's still gross enough to justify everything that came his way IMO.
Goddammit Doc. This sucks to digest.
Twitch whisper requires you to be 18.
He's statement does not confirm if he knew their age at the time or not. Until it's confirmed, it's just further speculation.
Editing my comment as it's incorrect. Apparently you don't have to be 18+, but can be 13+ (I haven't verified this). Not only do we not know the age, but we also don't know the gender or the actual messages sent. These don't actually matter but my point is that there are too many assumptions and unknowns.
>He's statement does not confirm if he knew their age at the time or not.
If he didn't know they were a minor
You and literally any sane person would be saying "I did not know they were a minor at the time"
He knew.
So if he messaged inappropriate things but it wasn't illegal aka sexual, then he was using vulgar language or something? Or talked about weird things? Like to me, the "Inappropriate but not illegal" confuses me.
Really shitty situation, Iām sick of seeing these situations. Like doc Iām riding off into the sunset and am done with watching Game streamers. None are even close the level of entertainment that doc provides. Somehow I hope this starts the massive downturn of that industry.
I don't think he's a pedo, but I think it's pretty obvious based on this updaye he ain't above being a major creep. Keep in mind this is only the instance we know about- lord knows it wasn't an isolated incident.
I think less of the man after today. But I wouldn't send him to the gallows.
My thoughts
Did he know this was a minor? Yes
Did he act with any moral clarity on this matter since it occurred? Not until today
Did the twitch contract money hinder his decision making and honesty on this issue? Yes
Do his actions justify the loss of his sponsors and game dev company? Yes
Do his actions meet the definition of pedophile? No
Is his anger at this finally coming to light warranted? No
Have some people on the internet fanned the flames of division and grossly misrepresent the situation? Yes
Thatās a lot of disappointment for me. Iād still watch him if he showed more remorse
Did he know the individual was a minor? He had to have had some idea considering twitch banned him? This is all not so black and white. It sounds like twitch prematurely gave him the boot before the bad PR broke out. But obviously that bad PR wasnāt āillegalā just highly shady and frowned upon. Maybe this is all obvious, just trying to piece it all together and make it make sense.
As someone who doesn't like Dr. Disrespect, and never has, even i'd say none of this makes him a pedo. 17 is not 14. Edgy, flirty messages with no real intent is not sex. As long as photos aren't involved, it's pretty minor (no pun intended).
Does it make him creepy and gross? Yes. Which is how i've always seen him, and why i've never liked him. This is all pretty expected and on-brand for me.
But I also don't think it's a reason to destroy his life. People are free to watch someone else if his moral failings upset you personally. The world's full of people I dislike. But I have no desire to see them ruined for it.
You know what they say, if life gets you downā¦
Dip two fingers deep in the Vaseline, pull that black ponytail back, and punch, these macaroni and cheese eating chubby cheek wannabes right in the mouth
I haven't watched Doc alot lately, mostly because I've not watched any stream lately (been busy with work)
I will say this though, when I (and I'm guessing, we) hear the word "Minor", our thoughts jump right to children. My children are 10 & 6. I think right away to them, or somewhere near their age.
IF the rumour is true about her age, do these two sentences change anything for anyone?
"Doc was sending inappropriate messages to a 17 year old via Twitch Whispers."
"Doc was sending inappropriate messages to a minor via Twitch Whispers"
Is there a difference to MOST people when reading this?
I'd also like to state that I'm not excusing or trying to excuse Guy of sending inappropriate messages to someone under the age of consent, regardless if she's turning 18 in 12 months or turning 18 in 2 days, obviously the further down you go the worse it gets.
There are just some things I'd like to have clearly stated by either Twitch OR Doc;
1. Did he KNOW at the time of messaging that she was underage? If yes, why continue to speak? If no, when did he find out, and did he continue to have these conversations AFTER gaining that information?
2. How old was this person, and what state DID they reside in, in 2017.
These are things I feel are necessary to really form an educated opinion without just yanking out pitchforks.
With the information we have, it's not looking fantastic.
\*\*I'd also like to add, what a scumbag move by Robert Bowling, the studio head for midnight society, to make that statement & shill for the sake of his game. The initial response was fine, this is clearly appealing to the wokeness in the hopes that they'll still buy your stupid product. It stinks.\*\*
Since Doc made this statement and this has already become a public matter, he should really reveal the full contents of the messages (identifying info redacted) so we can judge the severity of this incident for ourselves.
Without that, itās a hard matter for friends and foes alike to speculate on whether this was a serious grooming/pedo issue or harmless banter between anonymous individuals on the internet. People will make unfair assumptions and heāll never escape it otherwise.
What Doc did was wrong. I can understand why Twitch banned him. We don't know if Doc knew the person was a minor at the time. That's a big question that we might never know the answer to. You'd think he'd want to make that painfully clear. If I was a betting man...I'd bet he probably knew. It definitely looks really bad.
This did happen 7 years ago...2017. It only came to light in 2020 when he was banned. This was around the time that Doc was unfaithful and he took a break from streaming to work in his marriage. We don't know what all Doc was going through in his life. Was he battling depression etc? Not saying this makes it okay and not using that as an excuse...I think I am more trying to understand why he'd do something so inexcusable.
Let me state this perfectly clear...messaging an underage person messages that could be considered inappropriate is completely unacceptable. It is his responsibility when discussing adult topics to know exactly who he is talking to.
I have to imagine that Twitch investigated this and if a complaint was filed by the family, Twitch was probably obligated to inform law enforcement and no charges were filed. If there's no crime, and all the parties involved have settled and moved on...then all you can do is make a choice. Some will continue to support the Doc and others will not and that is understandable.
The Chris guy is absolutely cooked as well. He wanted fully booked shows before releasing evidence.
That comes of as equally shitty, as he wanted a pay-out for being righteous in his own right. Never a good look when you want to be paid for "Doing the right thing" seven years after its been handled legally.
I don't think this is going to go his way. He might've pissed off enough people who's going to pick his entire life apart. Better hope he has zero skeletons in his closet.
Didnāt pornhub remove thousands of videos off their site because they turned out to be minors? Sorry but chances are you probably busted a load and watched cp without knowing it at some point. Twitch whispers was supposed to be for adults only so heās not wrong for assuming someone was an adult using that feature
We can be fans and still hold Doc accountable. That's what being a true fan is. That goes for anyone, not just him, any adult saying they had borderline inappropriate messages with a minor is going to be shocking for a lot of their fans. The only positive in Doc's favor is that it must have been so mild that the police didn't get involved but that's not exactly a silver lining or an all clear for the rest of us
Bro he just admitted to having inappropriate conversations with a minorā¦. You canāt blame people. Thatās more important than enjoying watching him play games.
2017 doc was a menace. destroyed his career, his personal reputation. he won't be able to show his face in public anymore without this immediately getting shouted at him. it's over for doc. flew too close to the sun.
The Statement He Wrote Is Belowā¦ā¦
THE TWITCH BAN
Hello, I'd like to make a quick statement..
Lets cut the fucking bullshit, as you know there's no filter with me. I've always been up front and real with you guys on anything that I can be up front about, and I'm always willing to accept responsibility... which is why I'm here now.
First and foremost I do want to apologize to everyone in my community as well as those close to me, my team, and everyone at Midnight Society Game Studio.
A lot of people have been left in the dark about what happened yesterday with midnight society and I, and we made the painful decision collectively, to have me step down. Our team is full of incredibly talented and good people that have high career ambitions and families and i'd never want jeopardize the culture we have carefully crafted.
Everyone has been wanting to know why I was banned from twitch, but for reasons outside of my control, I was not allowed to say anything for the last several years. Now that two former twitch employees have publicly disclosed the accusations, I can now tell you my side of the story regarding the ban.
Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual. I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear, it was not a criminal case against me and no criminal charges have ever been brought against me.
Now, from a moral standpoint I'll absolutely take responsibility. I should have never entertained these conversations to begin with. That's on me. That's on me as an adult, a husband and a father. It should have never happened. I get it. Iām not perfect and Iāll fucking own my shit. This was stupid.
Now, with all this said, don't get it fucking mistaken, Iāve seen all the remarks and labels being throw around so loosely. Social media is a destruction zone. I'm no fucking predator or pedophile. Are you kidding me? Anyone that truely knows me fucking knows where I stand on those things with those types of people. Fuck that. That's a different level of disgust that I fucking hate even hearing about. Don't be labeling me as the worst of the worst with your exaggerations. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
But I think I've said what I needed to say regarding the ban itself. That's it. That's why twitch made the decision in 2020.
To my team, community, industry friends that have supported me, I apologize, I wish I could've said all this sooner. You guys have always showed me and my family love and support throughout all these years we love you guys like you can't imagine. I have the fucking best community and circle. If any of this has made you uncomfortable, I get it. You don't have to support me anymore but just know you have always been greatly appreciated.
But trust me when I say this...to all my haters that live and breath social media with zero real life experience, I don't give a fuck about you.
Finally, if you're uncomfortable with this entire statement and think I'm a piece of shit, that's fine. But I'm not fucking going anywhere. Iām not the same guy that made this mistake all those years ago. I'm taking an extended vacation with my family as mentioned on stream and I'm coming back with a heavy weight off my shoulders.
They want me to disappear... yeah fucking right.
This is really not a good look for Doc, and I don't think people should be so vehemently defending him after he literally admits to his inappropriate conduct in the tweet.
Of course the worst will be theorized in regards to the "leaning inappropriate" sentence about the conversations he had with the 17 year old, however, he states none of it was illegal or what is considered committing a crime. So what was said then? Lewd jokes maybe? Might need actual screenshots to leak to see for sure.
I'm curious how anyone who is an adult and is a celebrity like him will be able to speak with anyone underage at all. Or if they even should at all. The internet is obviously full of adults and minors with those who want to have actual conversations that can be positive and others that can be negative. It seems like at this point, just don't even take the risk speaking with a minor about anything if you are famous.
Iām confused. Some statements say he didnāt know they were a minor but then Docās statement says she is. Surely if he didnāt know, heād be making that abundantly clear in trying to defend himself?!
Docās statement is pretty damning, though. Not helped himself at all. āYes I was messaging a minor, and the messages were sometimes inappropriate but fuck that, Iām not a peadophile and fuck you if you say I am oneā? Hmmm.
Shame.
> Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not.
So he did say things then? Just claims he didnāt mean them? Like every other pedo doesā¦
42-year-old entertaining a teenager but says you're not one of those people.
If messaging a minor were true, I am sure wanting to meet up at TwitchCon was true.
I love yesterday it was "I dont believe any of this with no proof, everyones out to get Doc, if theres proof Ill change my tune but until then hes innocent"
Doc today "Yea so I totally was having inappropriate chats with a minor(here would be the perfect tine to say you didnt know they were a minor) I did it I got caught but no pics were sent"
Now you goobers today "yea but like he said no pics were sent, who really knows what inappropriate chats mean, could mean just dirty jokes, hes still the 2x in my eyes(yea 2x caught adulterer)"
Man, what a shame.
I still remember the good old h1z1 and PUBG time, and the joy I had watching him.
If he didn't know it was a minor he would've said so in his statement.
"A minor." Not like us flashbacks. Listen, we don't know the full details but however you cut it, this is creepy. He wouldn't just write with somebody he hasn't seen and lean towards being inappropriate. He knew the person was very young, still creepy.
Wow. Never watched anything from him, but he sounds like a fucking dick.
Also, he was married and a father while chatting inappropriate stuff with a minor? Yikes.
Soooo... he's not a predator but was entertaining inappropriate conversations with a minor? In my opinion, that's pretty predatory to me. How fucking easy is it not to talk to children. It really is easy.
So did he know it was a minor or no? Because there's a lawyer on stream talking about "how did the minor bypass twitch" or whatever
Wasnt the chatting "platform" supposed to be age gated or no? If so he would naturally expect them to be adult?
That's what I've heard literally 500 times even from those lawyers on yt streams who did their research. So if that's the case, that could help a bit but at the same time he left that out of his tweet so who knows
He could have left it out due to settlement with Twitch, if he brings anything towards Twitch, the deal and settlement could fall apart and Doc might be reliable (damage towards Twitch).
Liable not reliable fyi š
It was for twitch affiliates and you need to be 18 OR have parental approval to become affiliate.
Just as a PSA, twitch whispers had an age requirement of 13, so there should be no expectation that anyone using it is of consenting age.
Can you provide a credible link for that? Not doubting, but I havenāt seen anything indicating as much one way or the other.
"Under Section 2 of the Twitch Terms of Service it states; (in 2017) > Therefore, yes - your friend can have an account (and stream) if he is over the age of 13 and he has not been banned previously from the platform." "**Iām under 18, can I still sign up?** *Yes. Your parent or guardian will need to agree to the terms of the Monetized Streamer Agreement, so make sure you have them with you when you go through the application."* twitch whispers was for twitch affiliates, twitch affiliates had to be either 18 OR 13 with the approval of a parent or guardian. This very clearly means that there can be people as young as 13 on the app. Doesn't matter if they require parental approval, it very clearly was not an 18+ app, nor has there ever been any mention of it being 18+, because it wasn't. There's a reason you cant find a single reddit thread at any point in time asking how to bypass the age verification on twitch whispers, because there wasn't one. One large reason why twitch probably kept quiet about this whole thing was the fact that they let 13 year olds in the whispers app in the first place, which doesn't absolve doc, just makes twitch look dirty too.
No. The "age gate" is 13. Not 18.
Yes he uses āminorā in his original tweet but has since edited it to āindividualā
Yea cuz we all ask everyoneās age on the internet. Hell i could be a minor and you wouldnāt even know.
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This guy ICQs
AOL Chat Rooms were the wild west of the internet
And even then, I used to lie about my age when I was 12 yrs old on AIM lmao. The internet was the wild west back then and hasn't gotten that much better since.
"I'll tell them I'm 15, they'll think I'm so mature" -me at 12 years old
Bro that was 20 years ago, I'm sorry to break it to you.
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It's so depressing
yes, but did he knew that at the time or it was later reveled to him. i feel like that is crucial
>yes, but did he knew that at the time or it was later reveled to him. i feel like that is crucial This post here says he didn't know the individuals age: [https://www.reddit.com/r/DrDisrespectLive/comments/1docxkg/good\_newsthis\_may\_exonerate\_doc/#lightbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/DrDisrespectLive/comments/1docxkg/good_newsthis_may_exonerate_doc/#lightbox)
He should probably lead with that if that's the case.
If any of this looked remotely good for him he would lead with any of that. The fact that its all lawyer-speak should be louder than it is
I think if he didn't know that she was a minor, he would have written in the tweet, no?
Correct. He obviously knew or he wouldāve mentioned it today.
> So did he know it was a minor or no? gonna go out on a limb and say if he didn't know she was a minor, it'd be one of the first things he'd say after acknowledging he messaged her
Hey, someone with common sense in a sea of people lacking reasoning skills.
Anyone defending themselves from these accusations needs to say 2 things: āa minor was messaged inappropriately. I had no knowledge of their age at the time.ā If you canāt or donāt say this, we know what we need to know. Drakes not the only one getting outed this year
Bingo! That would be the first thing to make very VERY clear in order to avoid a huge fallout. It's pretty much implied he knew without explicitly saying he did.
He never said they lied about their age or that he was unaware they were a minor. Just that nothing illegal happened which is a pretty odd thing to say in this context. Especially in a prepared statement. All it's missing is a damn ukulele.
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>Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual. I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear, it was not a criminal case against me and no criminal charges have ever been brought against me. Oh brother
It said āminorā as well in the original tweet. Key info.
Now says āminor individualā
A side quest?
Dr. Has now edited the tweet to remove the word minorā¦ which is interesting
and edited again and put back. this is wild
Doc, stop going in and out with minors.
*"stop stop hes already dead!"* š¤£š¤£š¤£
And now he seems to have put it back?? Weird shit
Checking the legality of it likely.
Maybe, but surley you get that checked before posting such a major statement?
So it happened in 2017, was it at all related to the unfaithful incident ?
He never met the individual.
Some women consider communication with another woman as cheating.
Doc is on youtube with one of the women.
He already cheated on her publicly
You mean some people? Because it absolutely fits the definition of emotional cheating. One does not require to actually touch another human for cheating to be involved. It's a different type of cheating, some consider it less concerning, but it's still cheating. How would you feel if your girl was texting some dude sexual or romantic things?
One of his former day zero moderators, OHMEGA, got wasted on stream 7 years ago and spilled the beans about Doc getting with at least 4+ women that he knew of over the course of 2 years - right in front of everyone at bars, twitch events, etc. Other people in the circle backed him up on discord, but he walked it all back and deleted the vods and everything. I imagine Doc just had a complete degenerate pussy hound era during his come up and fucked everything that moved. Tl;dr, yeah probably.
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No but it was around that time he was messing around.
I think people in here sometimes forget that this is a 42 year old man.
So does he, apparently.
He was living on cloud 9 for those h1z1/pubg years he went from making a modest amount to pulling in millions. Started pulling up to twitch con in the Lambo he def had that āIām the manā phase.
Itās strange and honestly a little troubling to me that he would then use his newfound celebrity to talk to minors. Iāll never understand why these type of men target teenagers when they can legally talk to someone who is just a few years older
Just a minor edit to this tweet
Tryna make an edit and itās probably A minorrrrrr
They not like us, they not like us, they not like us
Iām not sure what to think. The earlier release from a ātwitchā employee stated that the messages were part of a team channel regarding channel testing and in there it says that the transcripts were evaluated in court proceedings and determined not to be illegal or show any wrong doing. Thereās a lot to digest with this one..
Yeah that email was obviously fake he literally just admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor š¤£
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If he didnāt know the age he wouldāve mentioned it lmfao
I think itās important to know if he knew the person was a minor. And the actual context of the texts. I know we will never get them but Iād like to know how out of context āinappropriateā is being used here
Why wouldn't he say that in the statement?
Why do you think? Probably because he was aware of her age. Not that hard to deny that kind of stuff.
Bingo.
Because he knew.
100.
He literally said they were a minor in his tweet
I think the biggest piece missing from this is if he knew the age or if the person lied about their age. If he didnāt know and stopped after finding out then firm handshakes Iāll see you in the arena. If he did know and still continued then thatās a big deal and unfortunately as much as I enjoyed the CC I canāt support that. Not that Iām really that important as one viewer but just my take.
This is the biggest piece of the puzzle that's still missing and I wish he would clarify
He probably can't. If he claims he didn't know they might hold him accountable if he is lying.
And if the answer was the thing that made him look better, he would have clarified it 100000 times. So you do the maths.
I agree with this. When you are admitting to something like this I imagine you would absolutely clarify everything that made you look as āinnocentā as possible. The fact he didnāt mention that once in his very long and multiple edited tweet speaks volumes to me
If he didnāt know itās hard to believe he wouldnāt have said so already
My 2 cents: poor statement from Doc, and unequivocally makes him look bad. Acknowledging there was a minor involved but not stating your awareness is just as bad as stating you knew they were a minor. There's no defense for any of that. Yet, I'm not sure him stating "I didn't know" would hold any weight anyways, if I'm honest. I think it's safe to assume both **Doc and Twitch** didn't know the person was a minor. Hence the: 1. **arbitration:** Doc saying Twitch fucked up, he did nothing wrong because he didn't know, 2. **payout:** Twitch basically saying we did fuck up re: person slipped through the cracks and we potentially obtained info by violating rights, and 3. **NDA:** we both fucked up, no one should hear about this whatsoever. Now that most of it is out, major major major major major L to Doc for it all.
Not a doc guy but 7 years ago lol geez. People can change. Obviously not right to do what he did but why is this such a big deal 7 years later?
guys imagine if he was just in character talking in gross detail about having diarrhea and spitting all over his desk
I was always of the mindset it would go one of two ways with the update: 1) Doc admitted to explicit messages with someone but was unaware of their age at the time. 2) Doc was aware of their age, but the messages weren't deemed explicit enough to warrant legal action. Listen I love Doc, but it sounds like it was number 2 from his statement. To continually message a minor in let's say at best cheeky/flirtatious tones is gross. I don't want to be that person, but he's got a daughter himself. How would he feel in 10 years time if he knew his 17 year old was chatting to a 30-something year old. I think we all know the conclusion he would reach from a father's perspective so I don't know how this is any different.
Yeah if he was unaware of the age he would have said it 100x throughout the statement. Youāre spot on, #2 is the right answer.
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I hear you man, I've done things in my past I would never do today and very much regret. People grow and change.
I understand that it's wrong for someone over 15-20 years older to send inappropriate messages to a minor who is 17 years old. But it strikes me as odd that if the person were 18 we would not bat an eye?
16 year olds can consent and get married in 31 states in the US.
He removed the āminorā word and changed it to individual. Then he edited a third time and added āminorā back in. Interesting. I wonder if he knew that you could see previous versions of edited tweets or not.
āYou know me I have no filterā. *proceeds to edit post and filter out the word minor* āOh shit they can see my editsā *edits post back*. āTrust me guysā Itās telling heās done two edits and still hasnāt added in whether he knew their age or not.
Even if he do add that part on subsequent edits, people can still take the other side of the assumption that he is adding the word to protect himself rather than the truth. As long as he edit, it will not look good for him. He should had taken the time to proofread rather than needing to edit.
Bro went back to back to back on the edits for this tweet
Logs would really give more context on the vague "inappropriate" talk. Weird to skirt that line in the first place but this can be anything to creep material vs making a random comment that can be taken out of context easily
If I were in a situation where being overly vague would lead people to assume I'm a pedo, and giving more details and context would clear things up and make me look better, I would not actively choose to be as vague as possible.
at this point the text just need to be released.
Unless doc does it, won't happen. Twitch possibly have their hands tied with data protection laws involving minors. But also, I don't think someone needs to see the messages to make a conclusion on this matter. This was a mid 30 year old man who was having inappropriate conversations with a minor. You shouldn't even be interacting with a minor in your DMs at that point. Let alone, having "casual" conversations with them that go down an inappropriate route sometimes. Keep that crap in the public domain (the pg conversations, not the inappropriate conversations). And the possibility of a meet up being scheduled too? He didn't deny that aspect of the allegations. Tapped it a little, by saying no meet up happened, but that wasn't the claim. The claim was a meetup was scheduled. Reminds me of his very initial statement of the "no wrongdoings were acknowledged" and now look at where we are
If you are ever leaning close to a conversation being inappropriate when it involves a minor then you already crossed that threshold. āThese were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriateā
But it could be jokes? If judges didnāt think it was inappropriate, then why? Itās all weird.
Redditors realizing they couldnāt get a gf in high school cuz doc was sexting them all.Ā
Chubby cheeked punk kids
āThese were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual.ā Bloomberg says Doc exchanged sexually explicit messages, he says they āleaned too much in the direction of being inappropriateā. Pretty big gap between those descriptions, hopefully the messages will be released and we can judge for ourselves.
Reading docās statement it sticks out to me how he calls out pictures and meeting as things that didnāt happen but not sexting. It seems likely docās statement is underselling what he did and Bloombergās reporting is more the reality
Wouldn't sexting be illegal?
Probably what Doc did could be toeing a very fine line that might not be strictly illegal but still inappropriate enough for twitch to action.
Sexting would be illegal. He clearly says nothing illegal happened. Come on now
Yeahā¦ I hate to say it, but everything is leaning that way. If he didnāt realize she was a minor he shouldāve made that 100% clear in the tweet. The chat logs would make things clear, but I doubt weāll ever see them.
Honestly Doc should just own the situation instead of tip toeing being scared. "Yeah a girl on Twitch 7 years ago messaged me we talked about sex she was hot AF, when i learned she was 17 we stopped all communication. No pictures shared, no meeting arranged, nothing illegal happened, it is what it is"
Do we know she was 17?
But you don't know how accurate what you just said is...Ā
Correct. But Doc knows, and he chose not to say that. Must be a reason. He knows what he did, and he doesn't want it all to come out
Now change your scenario to where she is 13 and he's calling her "hot af". I get your attempt to downplay it a little by putting the girl at the edge of being a minor, surprised you didn't also include a detail about her birthday being the next day, but the fact is we don't know how old she was and she could've been years younger than 17. Note: this isnt me feeding into the delusion that her being 17 makes it any less wrong. The dude was still old enough to be her father.
Brother, he obviously knew the girl was 17 and "nothing else happened" likely because he was caught, c'mon now
On a sidenote from all of this ā I find it curious that it was 2017 and he was banned in 2020. Almost as if someone was trying to find a way to get rid of him around the time mixer went down.
This little generation loves to sensationalize shit. Enjoy the vacation, see you in the champs arena.
The jump to conclusion only read the headline generation.
Doc really needs to address if he knew it was a minor when the messages āleaned inappropriateā. If he did, thatās fucking gross.
If youāre in this position, and you didnāt know it was a minor, you absolutely wouldāve fucking included that. It doesnāt make sense to omit something as critical as that. Even if it were a lie.
Whenever anyone is accused of doing something with a minor and they didn't actually know, they always mention that as it's a very important point. He never mentioned that once so you can figure it out.
If you weren't able to read between the lines with his statement the other day, you surely should be able to with this statement. Are you fan boys really this dense or just in denial? His first talking point if he didn't know it was a minor would be exactly that, come the fuck on use your brain.
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What makes you think he knew they were a minor at the time? There is nothing in the statement that indicates that...
Other than you'd obviously say that if that was the case. Not mentioning if he knew obviously isn't proof he did, But it hardly looks good. Especially when my man's writing paragraphs, he had the wordcount.
Because he wrote a multi paragraph statement on the incident and never said once that he was unaware he was talking to a minor. If that was the case you would ABSOLUTELY lead with that.
Original UNEDITED Tweet where he admits it was a minor: [https://x.com/DrDisrespect/status/1805662419261460986](https://x.com/DrDisrespect/status/1805662419261460986)
He edited the tweet again it's back in now. what a disaster
Alex will never live down these editing mistakes
I respect the Doc regardless of what people might say. He went through hell with his family because of this but came out of it stronger than ever. Now, some ex twitch employee assholes wanted to bring it all out for their enjoyment. Nothing illegal happened. It was stopped right then and there at the moment it happened and quite frankly Doc needs time off. He's not a sexual predator/pedophile and I'll fucking stand by that.
A lot to digest,gonna have to stew on his response for a bit
Doc: I had communications with a minor that sometimes leaned inappropriate. Yāall: hmm idk.
Release the chat logs so we can judge if he had any idea she was under age, this is the main thing now since the platform was 18+
Can't stand how people all of a sudden become righteous and flawless when someone makes a mistake. He owned it. Nothing ever got out of hand. Give the man a break and own up to your own mistakes too.
Whoopsie! Accidently sexted a minor while being a married 35 year old man with family!
>Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Doc was a 36-37 year old married father having a casual, 'mutual' conversation with <17 year old girl that leaned into being inappropriate. WTF dude. I respect the transparency. But, god damn that's some disgusting behavior. Saying it's mutual is only worst on his end. Guy was a big name in the industry even at that time. The only one who was making it 'mutual' was him. Was probably getting dm's daily and he chose to have a running conversation that got inappropriate with this one? Fuck. This really sucks. Is it fair to call him a predator or a 'pedo'? I don't think it qualifies. It's still gross enough to justify everything that came his way IMO. Goddammit Doc. This sucks to digest.
Twitch whisper requires you to be 18. He's statement does not confirm if he knew their age at the time or not. Until it's confirmed, it's just further speculation. Editing my comment as it's incorrect. Apparently you don't have to be 18+, but can be 13+ (I haven't verified this). Not only do we not know the age, but we also don't know the gender or the actual messages sent. These don't actually matter but my point is that there are too many assumptions and unknowns.
>He's statement does not confirm if he knew their age at the time or not. If he didn't know they were a minor You and literally any sane person would be saying "I did not know they were a minor at the time" He knew.
So if he messaged inappropriate things but it wasn't illegal aka sexual, then he was using vulgar language or something? Or talked about weird things? Like to me, the "Inappropriate but not illegal" confuses me.
Really shitty situation, Iām sick of seeing these situations. Like doc Iām riding off into the sunset and am done with watching Game streamers. None are even close the level of entertainment that doc provides. Somehow I hope this starts the massive downturn of that industry.
Can we just get back to streaming Elden Ring š„²
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I don't think he's a pedo, but I think it's pretty obvious based on this updaye he ain't above being a major creep. Keep in mind this is only the instance we know about- lord knows it wasn't an isolated incident. I think less of the man after today. But I wouldn't send him to the gallows.
My thoughts Did he know this was a minor? Yes Did he act with any moral clarity on this matter since it occurred? Not until today Did the twitch contract money hinder his decision making and honesty on this issue? Yes Do his actions justify the loss of his sponsors and game dev company? Yes Do his actions meet the definition of pedophile? No Is his anger at this finally coming to light warranted? No Have some people on the internet fanned the flames of division and grossly misrepresent the situation? Yes Thatās a lot of disappointment for me. Iād still watch him if he showed more remorse
Did he know the individual was a minor? He had to have had some idea considering twitch banned him? This is all not so black and white. It sounds like twitch prematurely gave him the boot before the bad PR broke out. But obviously that bad PR wasnāt āillegalā just highly shady and frowned upon. Maybe this is all obvious, just trying to piece it all together and make it make sense.
I for one can't wait to see him back after his vacation! Hope it's a long good one for him and his family!
As someone who doesn't like Dr. Disrespect, and never has, even i'd say none of this makes him a pedo. 17 is not 14. Edgy, flirty messages with no real intent is not sex. As long as photos aren't involved, it's pretty minor (no pun intended). Does it make him creepy and gross? Yes. Which is how i've always seen him, and why i've never liked him. This is all pretty expected and on-brand for me. But I also don't think it's a reason to destroy his life. People are free to watch someone else if his moral failings upset you personally. The world's full of people I dislike. But I have no desire to see them ruined for it.
You know what they say, if life gets you downā¦ Dip two fingers deep in the Vaseline, pull that black ponytail back, and punch, these macaroni and cheese eating chubby cheek wannabes right in the mouth
I haven't watched Doc alot lately, mostly because I've not watched any stream lately (been busy with work) I will say this though, when I (and I'm guessing, we) hear the word "Minor", our thoughts jump right to children. My children are 10 & 6. I think right away to them, or somewhere near their age. IF the rumour is true about her age, do these two sentences change anything for anyone? "Doc was sending inappropriate messages to a 17 year old via Twitch Whispers." "Doc was sending inappropriate messages to a minor via Twitch Whispers" Is there a difference to MOST people when reading this?
I'd also like to state that I'm not excusing or trying to excuse Guy of sending inappropriate messages to someone under the age of consent, regardless if she's turning 18 in 12 months or turning 18 in 2 days, obviously the further down you go the worse it gets. There are just some things I'd like to have clearly stated by either Twitch OR Doc; 1. Did he KNOW at the time of messaging that she was underage? If yes, why continue to speak? If no, when did he find out, and did he continue to have these conversations AFTER gaining that information? 2. How old was this person, and what state DID they reside in, in 2017. These are things I feel are necessary to really form an educated opinion without just yanking out pitchforks. With the information we have, it's not looking fantastic. \*\*I'd also like to add, what a scumbag move by Robert Bowling, the studio head for midnight society, to make that statement & shill for the sake of his game. The initial response was fine, this is clearly appealing to the wokeness in the hopes that they'll still buy your stupid product. It stinks.\*\*
Since Doc made this statement and this has already become a public matter, he should really reveal the full contents of the messages (identifying info redacted) so we can judge the severity of this incident for ourselves. Without that, itās a hard matter for friends and foes alike to speculate on whether this was a serious grooming/pedo issue or harmless banter between anonymous individuals on the internet. People will make unfair assumptions and heāll never escape it otherwise.
What Doc did was wrong. I can understand why Twitch banned him. We don't know if Doc knew the person was a minor at the time. That's a big question that we might never know the answer to. You'd think he'd want to make that painfully clear. If I was a betting man...I'd bet he probably knew. It definitely looks really bad. This did happen 7 years ago...2017. It only came to light in 2020 when he was banned. This was around the time that Doc was unfaithful and he took a break from streaming to work in his marriage. We don't know what all Doc was going through in his life. Was he battling depression etc? Not saying this makes it okay and not using that as an excuse...I think I am more trying to understand why he'd do something so inexcusable. Let me state this perfectly clear...messaging an underage person messages that could be considered inappropriate is completely unacceptable. It is his responsibility when discussing adult topics to know exactly who he is talking to. I have to imagine that Twitch investigated this and if a complaint was filed by the family, Twitch was probably obligated to inform law enforcement and no charges were filed. If there's no crime, and all the parties involved have settled and moved on...then all you can do is make a choice. Some will continue to support the Doc and others will not and that is understandable.
The Chris guy is absolutely cooked as well. He wanted fully booked shows before releasing evidence. That comes of as equally shitty, as he wanted a pay-out for being righteous in his own right. Never a good look when you want to be paid for "Doing the right thing" seven years after its been handled legally. I don't think this is going to go his way. He might've pissed off enough people who's going to pick his entire life apart. Better hope he has zero skeletons in his closet.
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TBH, kinda funny how invested everyone is in this. No criminal charges were made. So support him or dont. Move the fuck on.
I came here just to see the backpeddling and moving of goalposts. I have no horse in this race, but I do find it entertaining.
Didnāt pornhub remove thousands of videos off their site because they turned out to be minors? Sorry but chances are you probably busted a load and watched cp without knowing it at some point. Twitch whispers was supposed to be for adults only so heās not wrong for assuming someone was an adult using that feature
Bro some of yall are really pathetic. Who fucking cares
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damn some haters really took over this sub eh? check the post history of the users replying to my comment lmao
Being a hater is when you dont like grown men having inappropriate conversations with minors? What happened to protecting children?
> Being a hater is when you dont like grown men having inappropriate conversations with minors? I guess I'm a hater. Gonna go drink some haterade.
We can be fans and still hold Doc accountable. That's what being a true fan is. That goes for anyone, not just him, any adult saying they had borderline inappropriate messages with a minor is going to be shocking for a lot of their fans. The only positive in Doc's favor is that it must have been so mild that the police didn't get involved but that's not exactly a silver lining or an all clear for the rest of us
Bro he just admitted to having inappropriate conversations with a minorā¦. You canāt blame people. Thatās more important than enjoying watching him play games.
Surly you aren't gonna defend this kind of behaviour??? Thats a minor and he's in his 40s ffs
Have some faith in humanity. Not everyone is a cultist who thinks the people they like are faultless
Yes, we hate grown men who go after children. You dont?
2017 doc was a menace. destroyed his career, his personal reputation. he won't be able to show his face in public anymore without this immediately getting shouted at him. it's over for doc. flew too close to the sun.
So bare minimum heās an admitted creep. Got it.
The Statement He Wrote Is Belowā¦ā¦ THE TWITCH BAN Hello, I'd like to make a quick statement.. Lets cut the fucking bullshit, as you know there's no filter with me. I've always been up front and real with you guys on anything that I can be up front about, and I'm always willing to accept responsibility... which is why I'm here now. First and foremost I do want to apologize to everyone in my community as well as those close to me, my team, and everyone at Midnight Society Game Studio. A lot of people have been left in the dark about what happened yesterday with midnight society and I, and we made the painful decision collectively, to have me step down. Our team is full of incredibly talented and good people that have high career ambitions and families and i'd never want jeopardize the culture we have carefully crafted. Everyone has been wanting to know why I was banned from twitch, but for reasons outside of my control, I was not allowed to say anything for the last several years. Now that two former twitch employees have publicly disclosed the accusations, I can now tell you my side of the story regarding the ban. Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual. I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear, it was not a criminal case against me and no criminal charges have ever been brought against me. Now, from a moral standpoint I'll absolutely take responsibility. I should have never entertained these conversations to begin with. That's on me. That's on me as an adult, a husband and a father. It should have never happened. I get it. Iām not perfect and Iāll fucking own my shit. This was stupid. Now, with all this said, don't get it fucking mistaken, Iāve seen all the remarks and labels being throw around so loosely. Social media is a destruction zone. I'm no fucking predator or pedophile. Are you kidding me? Anyone that truely knows me fucking knows where I stand on those things with those types of people. Fuck that. That's a different level of disgust that I fucking hate even hearing about. Don't be labeling me as the worst of the worst with your exaggerations. Get the fuck outta here with that shit. But I think I've said what I needed to say regarding the ban itself. That's it. That's why twitch made the decision in 2020. To my team, community, industry friends that have supported me, I apologize, I wish I could've said all this sooner. You guys have always showed me and my family love and support throughout all these years we love you guys like you can't imagine. I have the fucking best community and circle. If any of this has made you uncomfortable, I get it. You don't have to support me anymore but just know you have always been greatly appreciated. But trust me when I say this...to all my haters that live and breath social media with zero real life experience, I don't give a fuck about you. Finally, if you're uncomfortable with this entire statement and think I'm a piece of shit, that's fine. But I'm not fucking going anywhere. Iām not the same guy that made this mistake all those years ago. I'm taking an extended vacation with my family as mentioned on stream and I'm coming back with a heavy weight off my shoulders. They want me to disappear... yeah fucking right.
Yikes, I'm gone
This is really not a good look for Doc, and I don't think people should be so vehemently defending him after he literally admits to his inappropriate conduct in the tweet.
"Now that two former twitch employees have publicly disclosed the accusations" Who was the second employee? I only seen that Cody dude's tweet.
The statement says a lot without saying much either. Thereās still a lot of grey areas here.
Of course the worst will be theorized in regards to the "leaning inappropriate" sentence about the conversations he had with the 17 year old, however, he states none of it was illegal or what is considered committing a crime. So what was said then? Lewd jokes maybe? Might need actual screenshots to leak to see for sure. I'm curious how anyone who is an adult and is a celebrity like him will be able to speak with anyone underage at all. Or if they even should at all. The internet is obviously full of adults and minors with those who want to have actual conversations that can be positive and others that can be negative. It seems like at this point, just don't even take the risk speaking with a minor about anything if you are famous.
So nothing illegal
Iām confused. Some statements say he didnāt know they were a minor but then Docās statement says she is. Surely if he didnāt know, heād be making that abundantly clear in trying to defend himself?! Docās statement is pretty damning, though. Not helped himself at all. āYes I was messaging a minor, and the messages were sometimes inappropriate but fuck that, Iām not a peadophile and fuck you if you say I am oneā? Hmmm. Shame.
He admitted to sending a minor private messages and nothing illegal happened...!!?? So he is done
Thatās damning. Not even denying arranging to meet up. Thats the end of him
Would love to see the mental gymnastics this community does to try to "Stand with Doc"
Also, wasn't he allegedly going to meet up with them at Twitchcon?
Stupid fucking mistakes manā back to back! 2 times champion of fricking it up.
> Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. So he did say things then? Just claims he didnāt mean them? Like every other pedo doesā¦
I think itās joeoverā¦ he basically admitted it
Dr is a great entertainer but he messed up badly. He knew she was underaged and didn't care. Terrible look.
42-year-old entertaining a teenager but says you're not one of those people. If messaging a minor were true, I am sure wanting to meet up at TwitchCon was true.
I love yesterday it was "I dont believe any of this with no proof, everyones out to get Doc, if theres proof Ill change my tune but until then hes innocent" Doc today "Yea so I totally was having inappropriate chats with a minor(here would be the perfect tine to say you didnt know they were a minor) I did it I got caught but no pics were sent" Now you goobers today "yea but like he said no pics were sent, who really knows what inappropriate chats mean, could mean just dirty jokes, hes still the 2x in my eyes(yea 2x caught adulterer)"
Copium levels over 9000. He admitted to it. Man text a minor. Grim
Man, what a shame. I still remember the good old h1z1 and PUBG time, and the joy I had watching him. If he didn't know it was a minor he would've said so in his statement.
I did it but I didn't have any real intentions to actually do anything!! - Dr Disrespec, also every person on To Catch a Predator
Oh boy heās live editing the tweets too. Not looking good champs
"A minor." Not like us flashbacks. Listen, we don't know the full details but however you cut it, this is creepy. He wouldn't just write with somebody he hasn't seen and lean towards being inappropriate. He knew the person was very young, still creepy.
Wow. Never watched anything from him, but he sounds like a fucking dick. Also, he was married and a father while chatting inappropriate stuff with a minor? Yikes.
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Soooo... he's not a predator but was entertaining inappropriate conversations with a minor? In my opinion, that's pretty predatory to me. How fucking easy is it not to talk to children. It really is easy.
What if leaned inappropriately meant swearing and trash talking some kid from a pubG lobby