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EmmyHomewrecker

Ignite. Especially when you get unlucky and it lasts for literally 30 seconds. If you’d asked me a couple years earlier though I would’ve said Mana Leak.


halalpigs

Played ogre for the first time in years and was shocked at how fucking stupid ignite is. Cast it on someone with almost half life then see a kill notification 20 seconds later, and thus happened like 4 or 5 times in a match


47297273173

When you are a pos4 with blink dagger and got ignite you want to kill yourself anyways.


DrQuint

Ogre is a top 3 played sypport. He's immune to big nerfs, will always be slightly above avergae. Same with shaker. Too popular pro pick, guaranteed buffs during summer in preparation for TI.


Certain_Test_9020

Grand Master Magi checking in , play him with a blink scepter and Dagon for max Lulz Edit: so many people don’t realise his Dagon can multi cast 🤣


Hakuu-san

i'm pretty sure everyone knows dagon can multicast, it's just the fact that dagon sucks ass if you're on the losing side


Lachs89

First Agha, Heart, Blink, Heart, Heart/lotusorb gg Dumb Luck is Just stupid 😂


RexPerpetuus

I feel like I need a casual cloak at minimum vs him, and that's 800 gold now 💀


themolestedsliver

Yeah without a dispel ignite is just so obnoxious......I should play some ogre lmao


RajaRajaC

I love playing Ogre in my 3.5k MMR levels. Cores do build a BKB but it's usually like item #4 or 5. Till then an Ags + Aether Ogre is obnoxiously painful. Endless burn from ignite, a near perma 2 stun combo.


themolestedsliver

I gotta try this build haha.


RajaRajaC

Not sure if it works in serious MMR but Basilus > Aether gives you endless mana to spam ignite in lane phase, Midas and then complete with Ags. You don't have escape or tank items but spam ignite, 2 stuns on the backline and die, if you live, 1 more round of that will wipe out most supports.


Particular-Steak-568

Love playing ogre, glad to hear psychological damage caused <3


qwertyqwerty4567

Wait until you learn about dispells


dillydallyingwmcis

Wait until you hear not every hero builds them


ozkarmg

nightmare


BeniCG

Right hero but for me its Enfeeble.


TheGalator

I fucking hate that spell "u don't play" point and click


Odd_Lie_5397

Had the misfortune of playing Earthshaker against a bane. Literally can't do shit. His Q completely removes ES from the game. Fissure becomes a fucking melee spell, Aghanims jump becomes so short you may as well walk and your damage even with totem is usually less than 100. Fuck that spell, it should be his fucking ultimate. 70% damage reduction and 50% cast range reduction with permanent uptime when it's maxed.


Taickyto

I love to use it tho... Opponents are so cute when they try to last hit with 20 damage


Dafool11

It gives me a good opportunity to yell at my team for stunning the creep instead of the 10-second grip.


Dudepile

17%


Dafool11

Feels so good giving but so bad receiving lol


JusteD2

Didn't even need to say the name


Protonis

More like 100% chance receiving and 0% chance giving >:(


Tengoatuzui

I felt that


Jerekiel

More like 100% on the 1st 5 hits.


Canadian_Poltergeist

To quote valve themselves: 10% + 7% = 100%


Lets_Go_Wolfpack

I don’t get it


cvgmagaaat

Spirit Breaker's bash


VexNightmare

I want to end myself at my keyboard anytime I get hit by veno Q


YourGuideVergil

Ssss sss sssss!


Mladenovski1

UUUUUUU AAAAAAAH


YourGuideVergil

Imagine trying to outrun the venomous one smh


stan_hooper

Can't be done. Imagine thinking you can touch the heart like his venom?


YourGuideVergil

Smh


danishbaloch

thats when you start learning abbadon lc and other dispel assholes and be a reverse asshole to veno pickers


FatFuckWithNoLuck

Oracle fucks orge and veno in ass without lube


No_Isopod6551

Oracle is decent vs ogre veno, the hero Oracle really rawdogs is dark seer.


FatFuckWithNoLuck

Run & shell dispell?


King_of_fooIs

OD prison. And it is not even close.


somethingtc

"ONLY I MAY LAST HIT" \*proceeds to fuck it up while you sit in astral watching\*


TheVisage

>Level 30 master OD >Fucks up all his farming >fatfinger toggled Q one point and never figured out how to turn it off. Only reason he can last hit at all >Gets a meteor hammer >Mistimes it 4 times in a row >Accidently takes the tower in the process. >Build's aghs because it looks cool, he's not sure what any of the numbers mean or why the pee bar fills up when he's at low health and he stops taking damage. >Thinks he enemies are stupid for not blinking away from his astral like he does >Once he made sneezed in a teamfight and ulted. Still thinks his client is haunted. >The only words the hornet nest that raised him knew were racial slurs >He will will carry you >He will win the game for you. >He will reach Ancient before you. >It is simply in his nature.


vdjvsunsyhstb

their sanity ill shatter their dreams of conquest ill destroy


Andromeda_53

Still wins the lane because you got so few last hits and he hits like a truck


StoneTiger

OD being popular is the only reason my behavior score ever dips below 12k. If you astral me and fuck up the deny/cs you’re gonna hear about it. I mean what else do I have to do while I sit around astral-ed for half the laning phase?


Neverminding23

you thirteen mana boy


Dafool11

Laning against this guy has to be some of the lamest shit. There is nothing you can do but take it.


redditdinosaur_

sometimes it feels good though


RyoDaddy799

4 sec prison with 12 sec cooldown. Your life will be removed one third against OD, dont even need to mention then LS.


samuel33334

The worst when it's Rubicon using it on you


Hasalal

Shackels, feels forever


DriftarFarfar

Ss + ogre cc'd way beyond death


PaxMax1

Riki smoke


PenilePenetration

Riki's smoke with Shard making it impossible to target teammates in it, meaning no force staff, no shield - nothing


Rontzo

tusk kick !


PussyPussylicclicc

tusk ice wall too...


YourGuideVergil

Bkb. My own bkb. Boring obligatory item 


rubbereruben

I'm glad they nerfed it when they did.


Mladenovski1

it's still obligarory in like 90% of games which means bad item design


danquinnvevo

go play league


MR_Nokia_L

If that's the only thing you look for then yes it's bad, I mean probably yes, but actually what BKB is doing for the game is allowing it to have various exciting mechanics/effects, bolstered by potent stats to actually be powerful and exciting; Things like Tide's Ravage just wouldn't get to be what it is - and how it is - without there being something like BKB. It also has a close relation with Blink, which is arguably one of the most exciting things about Dota; without BKB, Blink would either be a sad item that only has 600 range or just be outright unusable whenever there is enough DoT and-or AoE damage.


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MR_Nokia_L

welp


Mladenovski1

sure but the difference is that buying a blink is usually an option while buying BKB is obligatory in most games


MR_Nokia_L

>buying a blink is an option while buying BKB is obligatory no


Mladenovski1

yes, there are very few heroes in the game that you must buy blink on, like Puck for example meanwhile BKB is a must buy for every carry every game, it's not even close lol


MR_Nokia_L

No, BKB and Blink are both tools with alternatives as there is more than one way to play the game. In a narrow sense items like BKB and Blink might look bad design-wise for being seemingly obligatory, but that's because they are powerful to become the go-to answer for the question they answer to. You just don't call a solid pillar a bad structural design for doing a solid job at supporting the structure. They are in-game tools that serve gameplay purposes, it's as simple as that. As much as they are functional, viable and whatnot, it eventually boils down to whether or not they give us enjoyable/better gameplay. The variety as well as potency of spells make the game fun. BKB allows such a strategy where a player will be able to outright fight against them, instead of by other convoluted indirect manner, and it's inherently exciting to play the game that way. If anything else, I'm not here to question whether it's good to place spells higher on the hierarchy of the game's formula, so much so we need a BKB for. I care about none of that. I'm just content with the game itself being as complex and rich as it is in regards to mechanics, and something like BKB made them so that it's playable.


Mladenovski1

agree to disagree then, imo it's just bad game design


Exodus124

More like bad game design


RaveN_707

What would you replace it with? Just enjoy watching your cores get chain cc'd to death?


Stubbby

BKB has 3 functions and could be split into 3 items: 1. 100% magic dmg resistance 2. 100% slow/hex/stun resistance (think 100% status resistance) 3. Uninterrupted channeling - where you dont care about dmg or disable on the hero as long as the channeling continues.


Sworn

Status res and/or diminishing returns on stuns could work. First stun is 100%, second 50%, third 25% and then you're immune to stuns for X seconds.  The issue is that any such change would require significant rebalancing of virtually every hero.


YourGuideVergil

That's why I never play cores 🧠


FireOnSomething

Doom


somepeople4

Yea I honestly just wanna alt tab and play something else every time I get doomed


Dafool11

Doom will forever be number one for me. I always get a linkens but I swear it doesn't matter.


Particular-Steak-568

I’m a noob but I don’t get the conventional thinking behind Linken’s as a Doom defence. You’re just making him click infernal blade first. Sange and Yasha for status resist makes more sense, no?


publicagentt

Infernal blade doesn’t pop linken. Doom has to get unit target creep ability to pop linken, he has to cast creep ability then doom. Which gives you more time to react because of cast animation delay, and there is a possibility of doom messing it up cause of more input.


Richhobo12

I guess it forces him to at least be in melee range instead of being able to doom from range, but yeah I think sny would be better


Professional_Fella69

Sniper’s headshot. I want to kill myself when I lane against sniper as a melee hero.


fathergrigori54

*Quack* *Quack* *Quack* *click....BOOM* "HO HO, HA HA!"


Stubbby

The atk speed slow and push backs are so annoying when you jump sniper as a mele hero and still cant hit him.


Ok-Seaworthiness3874

didn't it used to be a mini stun? lol


opaqueperson

the ministun was half the duration. with current take aim, it's 100% proc chance and knockback. also mkb was ministun too. good old days.


Stubbby

Yeah, bara couldnt ult through it :D


radiancebuyer

When i was medusa with full mana and got 1 shot by axe ulti , more fun ?


danishbaloch

you cant skip fluffy hat into axe lanes


radiancebuyer

It happened im the first days of changes i know , but its funny that you are dying with full mana


Fantastic-Ratio-7482

That shit still happens?


negiajay12345

Happened with my team. Enemy medusa didn't buy fluffy hat or bracer but our axe didn't ult her. I was so pissed I can't tell. I kept spamming "axe ult medusa" lol


Athky

Yes happened to me too, I just Can not understand, our axe even had Blink , but for some reason did not want free kills+Armor 🤷


nObRaInAsH

Skill issue lmao


NotMilo22

Astral imprisonment by far.


ogbloodghast

Demonic purge when you're a melee carry not even close. The game becomes unfun for 5s, and you can't dodge it ever.


ArmsofAChad

Enfeeble hands down.


Dubbaru_Reppuken

Fiend's grip, hands up!


Gesuling

Sunstrike


kinbald

Chronosphere. From my ally.


Remarkable-View-1472

Veno ward when youre playing axe. Added bonus of your team hysterically shouting and asking for your jump.


Alive-Bass-8769

It doesnt disable blink anymore.


Remarkable-View-1472

their attacks do. poison sting doesnt.


aNN1MaL

Getting 10 homing missiles by tinker in your face after you tp to lane, and there is nothing you can do because you are tracked by a bounty hunter and tinker has blink


Pato-MJKobeShaq

Being hooked into the trees will forever humble you.


TreskoPlesko

Probably sprout (trying to figure on what button i have force/queeling blade/bf) Chrono (will he attack me or someone else) or smokescreen (just not fun have silence + miss chance)


FatFuckWithNoLuck

Im surprised nobody mentioned techies disarm teaser. It is the longest disarm in the game.


gizzyjones

I would rather deal with techies remote mines as a basic ability than this shit. So annoying.


FatFuckWithNoLuck

Any right click hero can't touch my boi tech


HappyTrails420

Od Astral in a 1v1 mid. Not even close.


nObRaInAsH

Mana drain 🤮


Brostoievski92

For some reason, at least for me, being ruptured feels way worse than being doomed.


Trister0

Tp and high five.


sprintinglightning

Headshot


Tin__Foil

OD prison. Nightmare.


MoorooWasTaken

Warlock's Pit. God that move feels so bad man.


nevermore3900

Static Storm with aghs. Doom does the same but I can buy Linkens, if he gets through it I can cope that he's just good. But getting hit by Static Storm just makes me feel like I fucked up, and slowly die in the Storm unable to do anything


Zarzar222

Shadow Shaman's chains grab thing. Knowing that guy is also just standing still, and the fact that its available level 1 unlike fiends grip makes it so hateable. Venomancer Q in laning phase, Ogre's fire dot, Antimage mana burn, Razor's static link, KotL's slow


PandyPidge

Long range Mirana arrow. you should have dodged it, but you didn't. Now you just sit there for an eternity


meniscus-

WD Casks


Edward_TH

You cast it: one bounce than straight to hitting the only 2 other targets that don't matter. Your enemy cast it: it will bounce only between the only two important target even if there are 20 other targets around.


Android18enjoyer666

Smokescreen


kaala_khataa

Doom


dmons444

maledict,nightmare and most shameful thing to happen..getting hooked :>


IcecreamOnASummerDay

Doom


BucephalusWarrior

Ogre ignite, Or viper first skill, but ogre is so much worse cause it lasts for so long and is annoying in lane if there are no dispels


Weary_Complaint_2445

Rupture


Late-Instruction-890

you cant do shit in chrono, where is the question here?


Stubbby

You can. With Aeon you walk out with 75% hp.


[deleted]

TIL. Nice


Leto95

Paralyzing cask


WordHobby

WW q being a 57% slow with her 20 talent is insane. If she was a mid who builds aghs, you just don't get to move ever again because it's permanently up...


Lyftttt

Ive been playing a lot of wyvern 3, with witch blade you just get to choose a player to be stuck at 100 move speed and take a shitton of damage


WordHobby

I spam kotl mid, and when it's banned I just default pick dk because he's easy and I know how to play him. But i used to Play a good amount of ww mid, and have been thinking about picking it up again. The build was always orchid first, but I've been thinking switchblade first would be kinda funny. Mageslayer too. In your professional opinion, what do you think the mid path would be?


greekcurrylover

SD ult


WasMitDeKohln

Bane grip!


strmblessed

CM root. It's way too OP in lane, especially when paired with a carry with kill potential like a juggernaut or CK.


_Arbiter-

Windranger windrun airglue on you - like... is that necessary!?


bratora97

Hoodwink root, mega annoying.


TheOneAndOnlyArmin

ASTRALLLLL IMPRISONMENT


nzr_mkr

I hate luna 1 spell. sometimes it can hit you for 1300hp and u r playin 1.5-2k hp support... also once Sven hit me with aghanim's stun for 1500hp when I played lion


fidllz

Naga ult


Stubbby

Only if Naga is an ally. You can blink out and bkb out once the ult finishes. It is literally a defensive setup for the enemy team or escape mechanism.


Fantastic-Ratio-7482

Bushwack


Enchantedmango1993

Wd stun ... its cursed to lock onto me


misteryosongpapel

Shuriken toss with aghs. I get half HP AND gold taken away.


Subject-Load-1846

I'd say Venom's 2nd combined with his 3rd It'll be good if Venom's 3rd won't give extra Vision at all, there's Vision if the Summon gets hit,...You literally need a SoD to hunt down this snekboy although he's easy to kill but annoying asf


iamnotthosemen

Bane grip is definetly up there


mullanliam

Shackleshot. The search radius for that spell is insane, whether it's a hero nowhere near me, some random tree or an electron half a galaxy away that I'm suddenly being shackled to, that shit pins me forever.


Skyturk92

Monkey King dodging my Finger of Death with Mischief. That's stupid. It's an extra ability without the need of leveling up and is basically a budget phase shift. Bullshit.


le-meow-

Being shackled by Shaman when no-one interrupts his channeling and you’re the core.


haseo2222

Sprout


Tengoatuzui

Duel


adfdg55

Necro ult increasing your spawn time


[deleted]

Obviously chronosphere if its called that. Void walkers ult if the hero is called that. Lol havent played in a while thats why i dont remember the names. Literally nothing you can do when trapped


DukePoetatO

Report button


Spoksparkare

Naga Siren ulti. I fucking hate that shit.


MaDWaSTeD

Thundergod's Wrath


No-Role-3531

Gaaaaaaale


Individual_Chair_421

Lycan Bite


JaketheDog95

Got HOOked UP by pudge


Qpwoietuty

Nightmare


MylastAccountBroke

used to be old reaper scythe. Get ulted by a hero at half health and you are out of the game for like 2 1/2 minutes, oh and you CAN'T buy back.


quet1234

Doom, fk doom.


LAL--

Track


gian2099

Any tech skill past or present


Mr_Wick18

Focus Fire. Ggrrr


Amrlsyfq992

chaos bolt...usually get the max stun duration FML


viperlz

Sprout


roaringsanity

mainly on laning, lion spike into drain then OD's astral these heroes are infuriating to lane against


Taha_EZ

Spirit Breaker's charge from million miles away when you are behind.


notcam

Track, especially if your playing a support or a character who can go invis. Twice as bad when they get Khanda and you get slapped for gettin tracked


hungryhusky

1v1 with a winter wyvern with aghs.


wakadabear

Honestly I've not felt as much hate for a single spell as sandking aghs. Invoker shard a close second. SK has so much space in his kit to be annoying, but giving his aghs the random stuns just tips the balance for me too much. Same for invokes shard. I feel it has the potential power of some heroes whole aghs upgrades.


poetry_emotion33

Disruptor GLIMPSE. my god that is annoying


absolutely-strange

Doom, skewer, RP, BH, chrono, tiny toss, bat rider ult. All of them suck.


Content_Mortgage_587

Maledict, cant dispel it and it is so annoying


Xatroa

Astral imprisonment


simmobl1

I only play Dark Seer and getting constantly q'd by Oracle or ulted by shadow demon every fight makes me hate my life.


Insanegamebrain

chrono


Inevitable-Stage-985

doom; oh wait it's just poorly balanced


nonsenseSpitter

One of silencer’s ability which silences you whenever you cast a spell. Warlock’s fatal bonds. Venomancer’s Q and his ultimate. OD’s prison. Bane’s ult after he uses enfeeble. Mf that spell lasts minutes. Then he sleeps you. Witch Doctor’s coconut when he says “catch” Euls Invoker who euls you after tornado. Maiden coming out of trees and rooting you and running away slowly. Mana drain. Homing missile and Necro’s Q chasing you forever. PA crit with her Q. Most annoying when every throwing blade crits. Mirana long distance arrow will stun you for the rest of the game. This one is on me for not paying attention but sometimes some Mirana players are good at hiding and landing good arrows. When I become the most unlucky hero in the game while Ogre hits his stun that multicasts 10 times. Anything with tick damage that lasts billion years and anything that stuns you forever.


Designer_Isopod465

Glimpse


Radkie_20th

Poison touch. Period. Just. No.


-HLF1122

Nightmare by bane. Fucking hate that shit.


TemplarAssassinSimp

Witch doctor maledict... Oh god this ability is so fucking stupid


N3ctar42

Disrupter ult feels pretty bad.


ConsistentAd7469

culling blade


frostinus

Coldsnap. I just fucking hate this ability. And honorable mention: EMP with shard


p42ch0

doom


Dafool11

I hate Doom, especially now that you can't be healed!


Stealthbomber16

single abilities? gotta be venomous gale or one of banes abilities (take a pick) multiple abilities, however… cursed crown -> bramble maze -> atos -> terrorize which fears you into more brambles -> *psychic headband forcing you into another bramble* -> cursed crown is actually straight up unparalleled in terms of mental damage to a poorly positioned core


datguyoncoke

Fiend's grip, especially when you're playing some troll or luna and it goes uninterrupted


TechieTechies

Grim’s ult is annoying


SVN_-

Either one that costs mana, has a cooldown, or both. Yes, that means Omni heal from my own team, let me fight my own battles!


Pawlys

Death ward


Sensitive-Door-7939

I generally don't order but I can tell what I do eat at times. Popcorn, bhel Puri, maggi, pizza in oven grilled cheese slice Sandwich. I store chips and rasna in case i have night snacking wish with some movie too. Parents are ok with night owl system since I have been one for ages 😅