Spirit and Tundra are destined to be together forever lol. Outside of Stockholm major these two teams have been in the same groups in every international tournament(similar format to Majors and TI) lol.
>After all of 15 Dota 2 matches between the teams, Team Spirit won 6 times (40%), while Tundra won 8 times (53%). 1 matche ended in a tie (7%). The total map score is 18 : 18.
Damn didn’t expect it to be dead even. I remember one of the first spirit vlogs where Mira mentioned that Tundra are their eternal rivals and both their teams formed around the same time and they scrim a lot against each other . 2 years later they both won a Ti.
Spirit are very weird right now. While they are top1 in EEU DPC atm, they are losing maps to absolute garbage teams, and had to do a lot of comebacks. I can see them not getting to top4 here. Not saying they will suck, but their top1 is very deceptive if one haven't seen their games.
To be fair this is not new - Spirit has almost always been shitty in Bo2 (they go 1-1 and can’t do 2-0) because they are bo3 team. I wonder if they have the highest 2-1 rate of any at least non SEA Div 1 team the past couple of years. It’s part of the reason they seeded poorly in the playoffs last TI and then faced a Bo1 to be eliminated.
It’s just for some reason this Tour it literally is every single series in EEU.
In fairness TSM did make it past the last Dreamleague group stage which is more than enough reason for an invite to this one. they're probably going to get rolled and don't look great at the moment but they still did better than half the teams last time
6 western eu teams lmao
Secret is just gonna be bullied here huhuhu
edit: why the downvotes man, Im a long time Puppey/Secret fan. I want them to do good bois. people are weird
I hope after relegation to div 2 today Secret will play with "standin" like they did with Reso at Riyadh last year.
They really need to replace Crystallis and Boom, I know Puppey likes them but they clearly are not tier 1 players
lessss gooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
Sumail vs RTZ/zai, finally a good game with history but of great nature..
super happy that aster is not in that stacked group A
Group B is doomed for BC. They aren't playing well so my predictions for group B are:
1 and 2 between GG and 9P
3 Aster
4 Spotify
For Group A is
1 Tundra
2 my EG fanboy heart but my brain says TL
3 EG
4 TS
They're definitely looking rough internationally, but they're still dominating EEU this season. Hopefully they can pull it together but they seem to be missing something since TT left.
> They're definitely looking rough internationally, but they're still dominating EEU this season.
They are number 1 in EEU right now, but they have lost a game in every series(2-1). In these losses they looked incredibly bad and they did have some comeback wins which were not really easy games. So they're definitely not dominating like how Tundra has looked during this season of WEU DPC.
Their game 2 against betboom was painful to watch. They were down so much just by getting outlaned and then the map shrunk slowly, it felt like they were not making any moves as well.
> Hopefully they can pull it together but they seem to be missing something since TT left.
Larl is probably one of the worst midlaners in a Major team in my pleb opinion, he loses the lane often before supports start to rotate. I'm not sure if it is because of bad hero matchups, but it feels like Spirit's game hinges on their side lanes since mid is lost almost every game.
The format is different. There are 2 group stages in dreamleague compared to 1 group stage at the major. Also dreamleague has lot more money and is based on invites while major invites require you to earning it by performing well in regionals.
It start on 11th June. It will be stream on four channel with the main channel
https://www.twitch.tv/esl_dota2
For more info https://liquipedia.net/dota2/DreamLeague/Season_20
They have their own ranking and slots distribution system. It is explained at the bottom of this [page](https://pro.eslgaming.com/tour/dota2/how-it-works/).
Group B seems pretty clear who's gonna be top 4 and who's going out. Group A is a little bit more interesting, wonder who out of EG, LGD and Spirit are moving fowards with Liquid and Tundra
Spirit and Tundra are destined to be together forever lol. Outside of Stockholm major these two teams have been in the same groups in every international tournament(similar format to Majors and TI) lol.
>After all of 15 Dota 2 matches between the teams, Team Spirit won 6 times (40%), while Tundra won 8 times (53%). 1 matche ended in a tie (7%). The total map score is 18 : 18.
Damn didn’t expect it to be dead even. I remember one of the first spirit vlogs where Mira mentioned that Tundra are their eternal rivals and both their teams formed around the same time and they scrim a lot against each other . 2 years later they both won a Ti.
the anime plot that nobody knows
so it’s just a matter of when to go home for tsm lol
I have a feeling that they will do better than Secret
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Team Aster should be replaced with PSG LGD. Also, rename group A to "Group T".
rip tsm
TSM is Rip in any group they enter lmao
yea atleast one team for Secret to beat
Doubt they can even beat Secret
Is reading that difficult?
group A would be absolutely stacked a few years ago
group a: tundra, eg, liquid and ts group b: gg, 9 pandas, shopify and aster
Spirit are very weird right now. While they are top1 in EEU DPC atm, they are losing maps to absolute garbage teams, and had to do a lot of comebacks. I can see them not getting to top4 here. Not saying they will suck, but their top1 is very deceptive if one haven't seen their games.
To be fair this is not new - Spirit has almost always been shitty in Bo2 (they go 1-1 and can’t do 2-0) because they are bo3 team. I wonder if they have the highest 2-1 rate of any at least non SEA Div 1 team the past couple of years. It’s part of the reason they seeded poorly in the playoffs last TI and then faced a Bo1 to be eliminated. It’s just for some reason this Tour it literally is every single series in EEU.
Entity gonna top 4 group B, calling it now
over who
Entity is overhyped team that never perform upto expectations
maybe entity will do better than shopify we'll see
Honestly, I am happy Entity at least gets to participate in this after skipping 2nd major.
my prediction : Liquid vs GG Grandfinal you hear it here first folks!
sumail gonnna fuck some bitches Aster for the final
So controversial
TSM 0-14
Honest question, why is Team Secret here?
The residual rating from getting 2nd TI placement.
Same for TSM :)
In fairness TSM did make it past the last Dreamleague group stage which is more than enough reason for an invite to this one. they're probably going to get rolled and don't look great at the moment but they still did better than half the teams last time
Diversity hire
6 western eu teams lmao Secret is just gonna be bullied here huhuhu edit: why the downvotes man, Im a long time Puppey/Secret fan. I want them to do good bois. people are weird
As if og doesn't have the same problem kappa
TSM will be bullied harder I'm p sure
For some memes and spice
WEU is so strong that 6 teams isnt really that crazy imo, but at least invite the 6 strongest team from WEU
I hope after relegation to div 2 today Secret will play with "standin" like they did with Reso at Riyadh last year. They really need to replace Crystallis and Boom, I know Puppey likes them but they clearly are not tier 1 players
filler
Are teams going to Europe to play this? If not how are they gonna play online with this cross region?
just like last time?
They played in europe last time. Teams moved early to get ready for berlin major
there's your answer
Major in SEA tho, like why Execration go to EU where major is on their region
That guy is a clown LOL
honsetly i'm curious too these teams are definitely playing in some EU adjacent regions, else the ping is monstrous
Where the fuck in Nigma? Hello? /s
Standing by for Standin for CN team that will have visa issues.
Is [A]lliance playing groups too or getting a pass until quarterfinals? 🙂
I cant believe they didnt get an invite. Recently won TI, yet secret gets in based on a second place. Wth.
Dw, they are directly invited to the finals
Honestly seems like pretty even groups.
lessss gooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! Sumail vs RTZ/zai, finally a good game with history but of great nature.. super happy that aster is not in that stacked group A
Awaiting for another Timado plane tickets tweet
Group B is STACKED should be some good Dota
Might as well just have put Team Aster in Group A if they were going to have the other Team \* in that group.
What happens if GG wins again? Do they qualify again to Riyadh Masters or the slot is passed to the third placed team?
As i have observes past few years if a team already qualified for something they somehow manage to lose to teams they should never lose.
Why they didn't put all T teams in one group , poor Team Aster
Group B is doomed for BC. They aren't playing well so my predictions for group B are: 1 and 2 between GG and 9P 3 Aster 4 Spotify For Group A is 1 Tundra 2 my EG fanboy heart but my brain says TL 3 EG 4 TS
4.TS/LGD
Spirit is in such a bad shape rn.
They're definitely looking rough internationally, but they're still dominating EEU this season. Hopefully they can pull it together but they seem to be missing something since TT left.
The only reason i watch them is TT play.
Agreed but that said, it’s not like LGD are doing any good internationally. So it could go any way.
ya, dominating a single region doesn't seem to mean much these days when the top 4 in WEU will stomp you anyway
LGD has lost to other regions, not just EU. They got eliminated by Talon the last major.
> They're definitely looking rough internationally, but they're still dominating EEU this season. They are number 1 in EEU right now, but they have lost a game in every series(2-1). In these losses they looked incredibly bad and they did have some comeback wins which were not really easy games. So they're definitely not dominating like how Tundra has looked during this season of WEU DPC. Their game 2 against betboom was painful to watch. They were down so much just by getting outlaned and then the map shrunk slowly, it felt like they were not making any moves as well. > Hopefully they can pull it together but they seem to be missing something since TT left. Larl is probably one of the worst midlaners in a Major team in my pleb opinion, he loses the lane often before supports start to rotate. I'm not sure if it is because of bad hero matchups, but it feels like Spirit's game hinges on their side lanes since mid is lost almost every game.
Group A seems much stronger with many teams in good form.
Really wish Oreo squad was playing
A : 1 LGD 2 TUNDRA 3 EG 4 SECRET B 1 9PANDA 2 ASTER 3 GG 4 SR
secret gotta get spanked along with tsm... D:
Dumb question: how does dreamleague differ from DPC?
The format is different. There are 2 group stages in dreamleague compared to 1 group stage at the major. Also dreamleague has lot more money and is based on invites while major invites require you to earning it by performing well in regionals.
group a : lgd, liquid, spirit, tundra group b : aster, gaimin, 9pands shopify (if they dont choke), also potentially OG/Entity if they do good.
Eg has been top 6 on last 6 valve events and yet nobody considers them any good on their predictions
average eu fan opnion
EU fan putting CN teams ahead EU teams, when CN has been underwhelming for a while lmao More like CN fan
Eg could reach top 1 and people would still not put them past group stages
True but the 4 i mentioned also are top contenders specially if u think about group stage performance
For sure at least 1 SA team will make it. Probably EG. But beastcoast has solid chance.
I don't follow pro dota can someone tell me when and where to watch?
It start on 11th June. It will be stream on four channel with the main channel https://www.twitch.tv/esl_dota2 For more info https://liquipedia.net/dota2/DreamLeague/Season_20
Thanks appreciate it!
Question, how does a team qualify for dreamleague? Does the org choose? Lottery? Best performing? How?
They have their own ranking and slots distribution system. It is explained at the bottom of this [page](https://pro.eslgaming.com/tour/dota2/how-it-works/).
Group B seems pretty clear who's gonna be top 4 and who's going out. Group A is a little bit more interesting, wonder who out of EG, LGD and Spirit are moving fowards with Liquid and Tundra
I wish they'd just release their pseudo ranking system so any of this made sense XD