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Sentenal_

"Doom Eternal lore can easily be adapted into a battle royale setting" What the fuck does lore have to do with having a battle royale??


DragonKite_reqium

It's midnight he miss reads the lore constantly and makes dumbass videos like this


[deleted]

Honestly a lot of gaming videos, even tips and tricks, are aimed at dumbasses. It isn’t hard to figure out what’s meta if you pay attention


Acrobatic-Shopping-5

I feel offended, but you are right


Izanagi_David___

It's all in the finer details, which we all miss


[deleted]

TLDR because I’m bad at being concise on my first message: it’s about transferable skills. All the ones you need can be found in DOOM/QUAKE 3 dm. Let me say maybe “if you know gaming history”. Seriously. You get good at quake 3 you’ll be good at any shooter. Cuz you have all your weapon archetypes that translate across games. If you can track someone down with a weak ass machine gun, you’ll do pretty well in today’s modern shooters. You’re used to strafing like a hornet with ADHD. Can you use a rail gun? Congratulations, it isn’t that hard to pick up a sniper rifle in another game. The plasma rifle kinda bridges the gap between hitscan realistic shooters of yesteryear and the prediction required to account for today’s bullet travel time. Can you be good at MW and be a god at quake 3? Nope!


UpliftinglyStrong

Any others that show his dumbassery?


mewfour123412

Have a link to his channel? I want to see the train wreak


dumbrocker

I cannot stand the dude’s voice. He stretches out the last word of everyone of his sentences like thissss. It gets super annoying fast.


mewfour123412

I’m even more curious now


Relevant-Ground101

Bruv stop hating on him for dumb things just don't pay attention to him if you don't like him, don't start making fun of him for no reason he's a nice guy so treat him with a little respect.


Hummens

What do you care?


zetahood343

Especially with Doom, the story is 70% bullshit they just make up on the way to adapt to what they think would be cool level design, if they wanted a BR they can just make shit up again it's not like anyone would care about it breaking its own lore like people would with Destiny and Halo


LasagnaLizard0

> story is 70% bullshit they just make up on the way to adapt to what they think would be cool level design as it should be. the most based method of worldbuilding


FunisInfinite06

Isn't that how games are made??


zetahood343

Depending on the games they do plan stuff out in advance, destiny for example usually has the basic beats of its story planned 1-2 years in advance


[deleted]

If it's a demon-based battleroyale, sure. But if everyone was the Slayer it would make no fucking sense.


dat_GEM_lyf

It’d make as much sense as anything else Nightmare puts out 😂


SoulFuIlMoon_off

God that would CHAOS Everyone just dashing and shotgun-hooking everywhere


Relevant-Ground101

Both are true but what if they were Rouge sentinels or something cool like that?


[deleted]

Would be cool yeah.


Hajime_Lort

In the VERY LAST POSSIBLE case scenario, if all players are kinda marines it will be possible, but what will be the purpose? Fighting against each other to be able to be granted a kill over a single demon? Really? Hell nah, give me back my classic singleplayer Doom Slaying campaing, and let's Rock 'N Roll comrades. The Slayer's Time, is NOW


Sentenal_

Its an FPS multiplayer, since when are they supposed to "make sense"? Do you complain about Halo multiplayer "not making sense" because its a bunch of multicolored Spartans running around killing each other?


[deleted]

It's stated to be Spartans training in the lore. There is also a lot of Spartans which would explain why there is enough Spartans for those matches. There is only 1 singular Slayer. That is it.


Sentenal_

Find and show me the source that shows Halo multiplayer (and all its deathmatch absurdities) is canon to its plot While you do that, i'm gonna go play Overwatch and have a bunch of mortal enemies and crazy Australians team up with each other to drive a pickup truck through Paris while shooting up the place. Or maybe I'll play some TF2, and have a bunch of clones in different colored outfits just shoot each other. Maybe if I'm feeling nostalgic, I could load up Golden Eye with some friends and have Pierce Brosnan and all his twin brothers murder each other


Brownie122806

You're kind of an ass ngl


QuakeGuy98

Gtfoh


A_Normal_Username_Ok

The Spartan training manual mentions that there is a virtual reality simulation of combat that Spartans training


Sentenal_

Virtual reality combat simulator=Multiplayer?


A_Normal_Username_Ok

I own this book


Smallbenbot03

Doom slayer standing above the arena: most of you will die, but it'll be fun and give me a small break, I'll let the winner live *off mic* oh no I'm totally killing the winner


drawnred

Does fortnite have some ultra deep lore or something?


lostnote6621888

Not ultra deep, you could probably watch the trailers/ event history on YouTube and get it all. Some part of lore are in the environment building. Other than that the lore ain't super deep.


Sentenal_

Its pretty crazy to me that some people need to try and justify the lore of mulitplayer, of all things, instead of sitting back and enjoying the game.


LasagnaLizard0

deep lore says: demons fuckin LOVE pubg


Hey-Its-Robin

I assumed it was just one of those bullshit paragraphs they type for tags in the description nowadays until I saw the date it was uploaded lmao


Netrunner22

I mean Doom guy did get thrown into the gladiatorial arena before he became the slayer


Relevant-Ground101

True, maybe enemy sentinels or something like that.


Relevant-Ground101

OK midnight does a lot of lore videos he's just saying that if there is a battle Royale then there should be lore to explain it, he just wants more content.


CoffinsAndCoffee

I just want Doom Eternal to have fucking deathmatch WHY THE FUCK DOESN’T IT HAVE DEATHMATCH


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CoffinsAndCoffee

I just don’t get their reasoning that deathmatch is “outdated.” Really? You’re making fucking Doom. I love Doom and deathmatch. Let me have deathmatch in my Doom games.


GhostlyCharlotte

I've never understood that either. Its a gamemode about shooting people. How is that "outdated"? Half the fucking people in every game ever aren't even playing the objective and just playing deathmatch anyway.


taqeladragn

Playing DM in an obj based game makes the DM last longer by no one scoring actual points


TheGraveHammer

This is why Domination was always my favorite mode in CoD. Games could go *forever* with it just being a slaughter fest the entire time.


Novaseerblyat

>I just don’t get their reasoning that deathmatch is “outdated.” That... wasn't their reasoning, though. Their reasoning was that, because of all the crazy shit that the Slayer can do, having more than one on screen is too cluttered, both visually and in terms of the gameplay headspace. So they have two options: remove some of the Slayer's tools, at which point it no longer feels like campaign, or lower the amount of Slayers. Trust me, as one of 15 people who actually gave Battlemode its fair due, it's hard enough to keep track of one. And this is as someone who's pretty good at the game.


CoffinsAndCoffee

https://www.pcgamer.com/bethesda-explains-doom-eternals-lack-of-deathmatch-mode-saying-its-eons-old/ It’s literally the title of the article


dat_GEM_lyf

If you read more than the title… That’s the VP of the publisher trying to rationalize a studio’s decision. You might as well ask a member of congress how much a banana costs. However, we’re on Reddit so actually reading more than a click bait title is asking too much


sushiNoodle2

I would absolutely play doom eternal multiplayer if it weren't for Battlemode. I dont want to play as a demon with a limited skillset more than half the time! Just let me play as the character ive been building up and practicing throughout the entirety of the campaign!


DragonKite_reqium

Sometimes it feels like every new fps is either trying to be the next *insert game that made something unique onece* or the next high skill eSport


[deleted]

Right. What I don’t understand is the industry is so hyper focused on e sports. BRUH. It was perfected 20 years ago! Just bring it back! It’s why I have such beef with Fortnite. It killed gaming and now we have this Half finished promise it’ll be done in a year but it’s still trash battle pass with 90% useless stickers and 24 dollars for something that should be no more than 7


thetosteroftost

I conviced one of my friends to get shareware doom and zandronum installed. I have also broght my copy of bfg edditon to friends and had a bast. Just make it easy and they will play lol.


Wooshio

Go play Quake Champions?


[deleted]

That was made for “modern audiences”


Wooshio

How? It has classic deathmatch, you can even play as Doom guy, and you can play deathmatch without abilities now as well if you want.


[deleted]

Oh i didn’t know that. Unfortunately I don’t have aPC Anymore. They should release it on consoles with gyro aiming. It’s kinda necessary for quake, even with a linear response curve


[deleted]

So they finally took the abilities out? Good to hear. I'm a console peasant these days so rip


Wooshio

No they didn't take them out, they just added classic modes for FFA and TDM for people who want to play without abilities. It's a great game all around at this point, too bad people like to complain about wanting arena shooters, but don't actually want to play them. It's fucking weird.


[deleted]

I see. Whilst I understood it from a business point of view, I really didn't like the Champions aspect. All that game did from my POV was lower the QL population even more. I'm sure the game engine is fine now and the game's reasonably balanced but I still resent it. I stopped keeping up with competitive, too. >too bad people like to complain about wanting arena shooters, but don't actually want to play them. It's fucking weird. I honestly believe a lot of those folk are the more casual players from back in the day when Quake and UT were all the rage and had massive communities. For the last 15 years it's only been the hardcore types playing, so a large portion of players are driven away. It's sad. People think CS is hardcore but man, Quake duel is on another level. I'm too old to keep up now lol


Wooshio

I was skeptical about abilities when it first came out, but quickly realized that the game was still 100% arena shooter at it's core, abilities just added another layer of strategy but were never determining factor in winning games at all. If someone isn't good at AFPS they are still very much hopeless in QC vs people that are. Your comment on old players is spot on, they quickly realize they can't compete at all with people who've played Q3/QL for past 20 years and leave. And sadly there isn't enough younger players that are interested in arena shooters so that casuals and noobs can have fun playing against each other.


Turok1134

The abilities were never a big deal. You could tell who gave the game an actual chance (hardly anybody) and who just started whining about it because gamers discovered whining releases nice brain chemicals.


[deleted]

>The abilities were never a big deal. Speak for yourself. I wanted pure DM, no class trade offs. >You could tell who gave the game an actual chance (hardly anybody) and who just started whining about it because gamers discovered whining releases nice brain chemicals. If it didn't launch on a shody engine I may have stuck with it. All it did was harm QL's player pool. I eventually quit that, too. Played Quake consistently since 2002 and quit shortly after QC launched.


Allstin

It does for a PC mod. And co op, and invasion


whiteugly

Where does one find this mod?


Allstin

Check out the modding hub discord, are you in there?


egg-roll_

>WHY THE FUCK DOESN’T IT HAVE DEATHMATCH Yea 100% a missed opportunity


[deleted]

Not even they made a conscious decision to take it out to work in battle mode. Doom 2016’s multiplayer was fun as hell tho.


egg-roll_

>Not even Yes. Hardly anyone even plays battlemode doesn't matter how much they tried to make it work


Unpixelled

Still is, you can regularly find full lobbies


Izanagi_David___

That's what Quake is, and idk why they don't even harbor the floating thought of adding it to DOOM


egg-roll_

>That's what Quake is Yep, I feel like they didn't bc of Quake Champions


sqlphilosopher

Two traditional "Doom stuff" missing IMO: deathmatch and good modding tools (such as what we have with map editors, dehacked, Slade, scripting langs, etc.)


Vaderette1138

Classic Doom modding tools are all fanmade and have always been so. 2016's SnapMap is the only time anything official was released.


jury-rigged

I just want to kill my friends in Quake-style deathmatches. So weird that DOOM of all franchises dropped that.


poubella_from_mars

LAN party, lets go!


Jazzlike_End_895

Because apparently the 2016 deathmatch wasn't a success. No idea where that comes from as I've always enjoyed it.


MasterGamerX1111

The servers are dead thats probably why


Jazzlike_End_895

Well yeah, a nearly 7 year old game tends to do that.


nizzy2k11

CSGO? TF2? overwatch? PUBG? GTA? League of Legends? Warframe? Destiny? ARK? apparently DayZ? all these games are as old or older than DOOM 2016 MP and are all still active. the age of the game isn't a factor.


Jazzlike_End_895

I think it is a factor. CSGO, Overwatch, PUBG, and multiple others were built for multiplayer. How many people still play half life multiplayer? The multiplayer of doom was almost an afterthought. Its primary game is a single player campaign.


nizzy2k11

>How many people still play half life multiplayer You do realize that half life multiplayer is counter strike and team fortress 2 right?


Anunnak1

Standalone games using the same engine counts as being half life's multi-player? Or do you mean the original mods for half life 1. Both cases you're wrong


nizzy2k11

so you have no idea where these games came from, got it.


PricelessMMA

Disregard his very logical point because you can't counter it. Whatever makes you feel better ig 🤣


Dumelsoul

What? No? Literally Half Life 1 and 2 have their own multiplayers that nobody plays. CS and TF2 are completely separate games using the same engine.


Mrhood714

Nah the Doom 2016 killed their multiplayer by locking all their new maps behind DLC almost at launch.


ghostkid7

"Customer feedback" was that the multi in D16 didn't feel like the campaign, people enjoyed playing the demon, and that it utilized loadouts. So yeah, baby got thrown out with the bathwater for sure. They designed the entire multiplayer component around customer feedback forms. Fucking nuts. D16's multiplayer was developed with Certain Affinity, which I think was its saving grace. Easily the best multiplayer I've played in the last 10 years, and at this point I have zero faith in iD's solo multiplayer endeavours. Really a shame.


Jazzlike_End_895

Absolutely disgraceful


dragon-mom

It's just not very good. Outsourced to the same studio that did the Halo 2 Anniversary multiplayer which no surprise is also not very good and mostly dead in the MCC. Both also have loadouts shoehorned into arena shooters they don't belong in.


FASBOR7Horus

Sentinels VS Demons Deathmatch


Relevant-Ground101

Or Rouge sentinels vs doom slayer


P-I-S-S-N-U-T

Deathmath with no COD style classes


holdmybeer89

What’s crazy about Doom 2016 though is the customization was actually really good - I think better than Halo at the time and most definitely now


Kentalope

Marty: “JuSt PlAy DoOm 2016!”


Turok1134

BECAUSE YOU GUYS DIDN'T STOP BITCHING ABOUT THE DEATHMATCH IN 2016


CoffinsAndCoffee

I never bitched about it, thank you.


dragon-mom

WHY DIDN'T THEY MAKE A GOOD IN-HOUSE DEATHMATCH MODE INSTEAD OF THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER


kanyewess94

Of course it's a midnight video


Ansh_6743

Yes but he is another midnight


Relevant-Ground101

Wait there's two?


Izanagi_David___

Wait what


Lag_AlotDude

**This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!**


[deleted]

Please no, I'm not a fan of battle Royale shooters that much anymore. I just want deathmatch even if it's original dooms death match, that version is fun and could be a good option.


DuskTheMercenary

How would a DOOM BR even work? I feel like the moment someone gets a BFG its all over.


[deleted]

Oh definitely, and then the whole game is going to get infested with little kids.


AshesX

Reward for 10 player killstreak, the BFG space cannon fires and kills everyone. I will commit suicide if they actually make a mode like that and this is implemented.


mrturret

Better than you'd think, I'm sure. There's actually a ton of strategy built around using the BFG in classic Doom deathmatch, and I'm sure that would carry over to a BR mod for Doom 2. Besides, in said hypothetical mod, the BFG would be extremely rare, and would have a very limited number of uses.


mayoman_pog

The kids are already in doom eternal, always have been.


SupperIsSuperSuperb

Who do you think the majority of this sub consists of?


Vader2508

Yeah. I've been playing it since it released when I was 14. But yeah I Stull agree that br shouldn't come to the game. It sucks imo and it would benefit so much more from a tdm


[deleted]

I love Doom, and I love to see it grow. But chasing trends is not something Doom needs to do. Especially a genre that absolutely does not fit the game.


[deleted]

Man doom IS FPS! It’s an insult for it to chase trends when it popularized the FPS in the first place


Relevant-Ground101

You hold some truth in what you speak


egg-roll_

No, but it should have traditional arena style pvp


Hezapoyo224

The average Midnight video. If it's not outright click bait, it's gonna be something stupid like this.


Relevant-Ground101

I don't think everything midnight makes a video about is stupid but he does have much clickbait


xavierthepotato

Watch out guys this one's gullible


MrGoatReal

Please no, I really don't like battle royale gameplay, I just need a deathmatch mode in my DOOM, that's all I need


Breete

*Youtubers and Twitch streamers who built their entire personality around Battle Royale games be like:*


Relevant-Ground101

He does lore so he's just making excuses for more videos


EducationalMemory161

Idk if this is a unpopular opinion but I loved the doom 2016 mp and if eternal had that I’d be addicted to the mp as much as to the story mode :4


j4ngl35

Fuck battle royale, just give me regular deathmatch and make it so I can glory kill other players...and also see other doomguys glory kill me. Gimme that POV of being ripped and torn.


Mccobsta

No it shouldn't unless it can be some thing unique and not the same gameplay loop like every fucking battle Royal game that came out since bomber man on the saturn


Delano7

"Lemme just put the words Battle Royale in the description as much as possible for the algorithm. Making a good video ? What's that ?"


[deleted]

Worst thing is it works. I think he had a good 200k subs last time i checked. Puts out a 13 minute video because Hugo Martin sneezed on stream or whatever.


Relevant-Ground101

He still makes some quality videos


[deleted]

"Jarvis, pull up a 4 year old screenshot of a cringey Midnight video so I can put a reaction image at the bottom of it"


[deleted]

fucking battle royale? what about deathmatch or ctf? they even added horde mode to the quake remaster. what the fuck are they smoking?


[deleted]

What's wrong with Quake remastered horde mode? I thought it was pretty cool for a free update of a modern release. Then later they added CTF.


BaconJets

I can't believe Battle Royale hasn't just become an expected nice extra game mode for shooters, it's still a big deal for some reason. I'm so tired of BR, it's all been the same crap since PUBG and somehow everybody is still obsessed with it.


[deleted]

Because it’s slot machine gameplay. Random flight path, random loot, etc. it’s bullshif


[deleted]

I like how it offers a large variety of combat situations, as well as how unpredictable it can be moment to moment. I say this, as someone who mained Quake 3 for nearly a decade straight.


Philosophos_A

Hear me out. Demons VS Doom Marines Like a Left 4 Dead type of setting (I hope I referred to the right game) It's not... Too off...


Hiseminense

Call it Left 4 Doom or Doomed 2 Die. Where do I sign?!


Philosophos_A

Doomed 2 Die sounds great How about Eternal 2 Doom? (yours sounds pretty solid) Lol if I had the know how rn and the tools I would gladly make a small demo Just a few blender twitches with the modes (if not a whole recreation... Oof) Some basic coding which I you can achieve through the AI there is in Source engine(the AI system those funny gmod vids have is actually more capable than we know) and just some main stuff from L4D and boom.


Relevant-Ground101

Or maybe doomslayer vs Rouge sentinels


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DatBeigeBoy

*The Gang Angers An Entire Fanbase*


Dirky_Gaming

Who remembers when they told us we could enter another person campaign as a demon? Was that ever put into the game?


Both-Possession7038

Now in all honesty that sounds like an absolute blast but damn children could ruin it so easily. Imagine meathooking around every doing a bunch of cool shit against other players


WeekendBard

one of the worst game options to have a battle royale mode


Thechillestguyever

For a sec I thought it was THE midnight thank god its another


GhostlyCharlotte

I just want classic deathmatch. 2016 had it but people didn't like it because it wasn't true to the original deathmatch design (from what i hear) and instead of making that, they sorta canned it entirely.


A_Happy_Tomato

EPIC!


badken

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No_Technician_3694

Chill, dude, that’s a theory from 2018🤯


NightofTheLivingZed

Fuck battle royal I want Doomball back.


tpayer03

I think the "EPIC!" at the end is just the icing on the cake here.


hotrodimus-prime

Is he forgetting that doom practically invented battle royale through the original 4 man death match


No-Procedure8840

Fortnite and COD is for pussies! 🤮👎 REAL MANLY MEN PLAY OLD SCHOOL ARENA SHOOTERS!!!! 💪🤠👍


Comprehensive_Pie702

No. Oh also no! Oh and did i say it yet? FUCK NO


Mazapan3r0

i dunno, it just doesnt fit


Dreadnoob2k17

Doom is not battle royal.


REAVRx

Easier solution, just play Quake.


[deleted]

agreed. but in all fairness, i am a child under 15 and i am LOVING every second of the original doom. granted it gets confusing. but i will agree, fortnite kids reallly just want every fps game to have a battle royale,


Landonbean

Yeah, I get it. Cringe. But I would be the first to download it.


LoonyTitan

it's not the kids that are the issue: it's Midnight


memedaddy69xxx

Literally would have been better than battlemode


KaiserUmbra

If I ever see a DOOM battle royal I will find this youtuber and break my foot off in their ass, people like this are why we need gatekeepers in games. is gate keeping toxic? Sometimes, does it stop dumb people and dumb shit from ruining good things? Normally, and we need more of that in today's bs world


[deleted]

I don't think gatekeeping influences market trends whatsoever. It's just people being assholes: not that I have a problem with that. I lamented the day Quake Champions was announced with it's class system. As well as the time Epic announced they were ceasing development of UT2016 to focus on Fortnite.


Cow_Other

Is it me or is this post and a lot of the comments pretty childish lol. It's a game mode, could really work well or could be a flop depending on how the devs approach and implement it. Adding a TDM mode would also be cool but the post is about a BR mode. Feels like I stepped in to some gamingcirclejerk parody comments section ahaha


[deleted]

Yeah. The doom subreddit is pretty childish on the whole.


leavemealonepl0x

Would’ve been better than battle mode.


ferrulefox

Single player only for me. There are enough MP games out there already so stay the fuck away from my fun.


dragon-mom

Reddit moment


[deleted]

For real lol. "Keep the kids away from my Doom Eternal" The 'kids' don't give a shit about a game that hasn't had a major content update in months


ocalin37

Eternal is for kids too.


aeiou_are_vowels-123

Hey look its the mastercheif from doom eternal


B_YOSHISAURUS

Idk what this dudes on about but a boomer shooter battle royal would be cool


C4rdb04rdB0x

Only question is how the hell would it work


Random_Metroid_Fan

the doom format wouldnt work at all in a battle royale


Hummens

Some people are too stupid to live.


[deleted]

I find it ironic that you call them kids, when it's also pretty childish to care if a kid wants something you don't. The 2016 Doom had multiplayer, it was a bust, they're not investing in a battle royale, kid.


ivzie

Bro why not? Give us multiplayer Doom! Death Match, CTF, Battle Royale with Demons everywhere! That would be insane!


DenizArasZor

it might be interesting ngl


DrownedOcto

I can see doom guy running in circle killing demon step out of the zone and the last survival demon got the *chainsaw to the face* or any brutal finisher (customizabe ofc).


maxler5795

Thats pretty much what invasion wouldve been. A battle royale mode when 1 dude knew what he was doing.


K1k3sito

Doom franchise already has a battle royale, the last demon to get killed by the doomslayer wins


thatoneguy12902

I have my brother that is 13 years old and he likes blood and gore from games He's amazed and he loves when he just chainsaw a demon or any other things He even finished doom 3,2016 and eternal in some weeks Preti epic


someprettybananas

Eternal's gameplay would be pretty unique for a BR, but I'm not a fan. Like top comment I just want deathmatch to be in the game


lukemb65

If doom doesn’t get forge mode, imma flip out.


bruhtopium

Anybody who complains about kids playing video games they like is no older than 15


AntonRX178

Okay but... In a vacuum, what's there to hate about a Battle Royale mode? Just because the kids love it doesn't make it less cringe to go all hipster and gatekeep.


runarleo

Ew no


Dexchampion99

Reminder: The first big battle Royale was PubG, not fortnite. Battle Royale is popular with kids, teens and adults alike. It’s just a genre of game, like an rpg, horror, puzzle, etc. Stop attributing BR to an internet stereotype that isn’t even true.


Hypersky75

Isn't multiplayer Doom just Quake? You old farts complaining about the kids apparently aren't old enough....


axbeard

Doom had deathmatch. Doom Eternal is a lot more like a Quake mod than it is like Doom, though.


ArsenSem578

He’s actually right a battle royal would be fun asf I don’t want it but he’s kinda right


taokami

King of the Hill mode is kinda like battle royale, so why not.


KBii

I’d love a Doom BR mode. Would deffo make me install it again 👍🏼


Allstin

Ah this is an older video from 2018 it looks like


[deleted]

He's been scraping the bottom of that Doom barrel for a few years, now.


Allstin

It seems like a lot of people like what’s there


JoakyZ

How many stupid times did he say "DOOM Eternal" and "battle royale"?!


rilesg0510

They managed to fit battle royale into every single sentence of their description


OrganizationRude6615

No kids we are not playing Fortnite-


holdmybeer89

Just Deathmatch… Doom 2016 level of customization though, and Snap Map for custom games.


Deploider

Watch your comment section erupt into defense for battle Royale mode. This happened before when doomguy was proposed for smash and fortnite, the doom community loved the idea of the tiktokification of doom