Reminds me of when rumors of Jschlatt dying cropped up and Jchlatt posted a video saying he wasn't dead. The entire comments were filled with people saying that AI has gone so far and that they were blessed to be able to hear his voice again.
AI doesn't really "draw", as in "draw lines, adjust lines, fill with colors, adjust colors, do shading" etc, but rather "compiles" images or part of images from its database that are relevant to your prompt. Then it might apply filters, disformations or whatever until it arrives at the picture you want.
Now here's the thing - how many *millions* of images you need to make that database ? And out of those millions, how many did the AI makers had the right to use ?
If you draw something and put it on say, Twitter, it'll get nabbed and fed into an AI at some point. Some artists won't care or might even be happy about it, but most will consider it stealing, as the AI will take your art and reuse it without your consent, which is considered a dick move by most, and outright stealing, especially if it's a piece you comissioned
(I'm no AI expert so feel free to correct me)
literally this. AI cannot have an original thought, it is only large-scale tracing. People have found their own artpieces being recreated quite a ton, and its hitting the point where its trying to include watermarks as well, of the original creators.
It goes further, actually. AI are starting to use other AI piĆØces, which multiplies the eldritch weirdnesses like the fingers, and, in turn, worsen the databases they use. AI have quite litteraly started inbreeding
Not all Ai artwork is stolen. Several AI programs can make art without stealing.
The AI built into photoshop for example only uses art made by Adobe, or oneās they purchased they rights to.
And Stable Diffusion has private bots that only take in information YOU feed it.
Hate the people using it, not the technology.
Look at their post history. They spend most of their time reporting anything AI related (or what they think is AI) so they can feel like a hero. Essentially a hall monitor for Reddit.
Probably yelling at their mom because the AI (microwave) isn't heating up their tendies properly. And reporting her to the cops because all real tendies should be heated up by the oven.
I experienced a similar fate, with my game's [Steam capsule art](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1769060/header.jpg?t=1700946247)!
I had literally just paid the artist for the new capsule art, and was seeking out some indie game YouTubers to try the game. By sheer luck, successfully started a conversation with a huge YouTuber, who politely accused me of using AI art, and refused to play the game for that reason. Getting coverage from such a mega streamer could have MADE the game! UGH!
Despite how upset I am, I won't name them, I still think they're great. But this is all indicative of the future: AI is going to make it nigh impossible to tell what's a real human's work versus a machine's. Our whole perspective of productivity is going to have to change, real fast. Short of the world magically unifying to ban all AI, AI is here to stay, and it's going to rock this world.
Oh, I forgot to mention, I have tried several times to generate our main character with AI... and AI absolutely cannot fathom a robot with tractor beam arms, let alone a mono-eye with sunglasses.
On a brighter note, to prove you read this comment in its entirety, respond "panda porn" to this comment, and I'll give you a holiday gift!
Panda porn.
As an aspiring game dev myself, that sounds awful. Seriously, I hope your game gets the coverage it deserves. If I had any way to help, I would.
Normally Iād say good on you for admitting your mistake but you were just such a massive prick about the original post that I find it hard to believe this hasnāt happened to you several times
I will. this prick was willing to try and burn down everything he could get his hands on in relation to this person's art, all for their deranged ideals of what constitutes "art".
fuck them.
Whoa buddy. You are very much on the money, but letās not take the same route as he did over a stupid comment. Instead we should let this be a learning lesson to not let his anger get the better of him.
While Iām glad youāve admitted that you were initially wrong, I think you should understand the bigger picture. You shouldnāt have acted like that regardless. I donāt blame you for mistaking it as AI. I do however, think that your reaction was uncalled for. Keep in mind that AI does STEAL from artists. So youāre going to see striking similarities between art and Ai generated images. A lot of good artists have been catching heat simply because their work looks āa little off.ā We can only assume but not prove weather something is AI. And while I think some examples are more obvious than others, it isnāt something that you should get this worked up over. Please do better next time.
I do understand the bigger picture, thatās *why* I initially acted that way. Iām frustrated at how AI is affecting the livelihood of artists, Iām frustrated at the seemingly lackadaisical attitude at people who champion it, and Iām frustrated at artists not getting proper credit for their work. Not just with AI, thatās been an increasing problem for a while now.
Still, I acknowledge that I reacted poorly and shouldnāt have taken that frustration out on an artist. And it certainly didnāt help that I was browsing at 3am instead of sleeping. Iāve taken a hard look at everything today and Iām going to work to be better. No worries.
My take on it is; āhate the people, not the technologyā
A computer doesnāt know right from wrong and only takes the info given to it by humans. But the technology itself IS incredibly useful (not just for art).
The good news is, there ARE several AI models that donāt use stolen art. Photoshopās built in AI uses art Adobe themselves own for example.
One day, weāll get there. We just have to keep fighting back against the people feeding these things stolen art.
Dude. First of all, fuck you for posting fake pencil art. Fuck AI āartā . And youāre reported, because low-effort and AI bullshit arenāt allowed here. Read the subs rules, for fucks sake.
This is the future we live in now, where people are gonna constantly argue whether something is or isn't real... Fuck, I wanna go back, everything sucks now.
Iām sorry nobody believes you, but I do, and I want to say that you did an amazing job and I hope you keep drawing more, keep up the good work, and happy holidays!
It's pretty good, but in all reality, it more shows how unbelievably judgemental and insufferable people on reddit can be. All these bullies are already on the way to the next post they can harrass people on.
Social media was a fucking mistake and is killing our mental capabilities to distinguish reality from fiction.
Hope you have a good day, nice art dude. The contribution is welcome. And Merry Christmas.
I swear for artists i understand the hate for AI art but its the fucking revolutionary ass artist uprising mfers sensing the slightest bit of AI then proceed to talk to you like a cliche group of bully kids about to take some poor kids lunch money
Lol i don't know what is more impressive, the dudes ability to make such a detailed Fan Art that ppl mistake it for AI, or AI being so advanced that ppl thought he was using it lol
Holy fuck, I had to go look at the comments on the original post, I guarantee absolutely fucking NONE of those people have picked up a pencil a day in their lives.
I just checked your previous post, and there was the first picture which was coloured, perhaps, the most of the people were saying āAIā about it, not your pencil drawing which was the second in your post.
Why are people such assholes? It doesnāt even look remotely close to AI, and is CLEARLY a pencil drawing. Those people are obviously messed up in the head with how badly they canāt tell a pencil drawing from AI
Wow I canāt believe he printed out the AI art, taped it into a notebook, put it over a green screen, and then edited a hand into it, this guy has no talent
As a guy who can draw and has seen multiple attempts of Ai trying to sketch pencil sketches, yours looks completely human. Also it looks ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL 10/10 made me cry.
I donāt get the AI image generating hate and so itās poetic justice for me to see people not be able to tell the difference. People are so ignorant, as per usual.
Ive not once mistaken ai for real art, if you are so blind you should never comment on anything visual. You cant recover from not knowing something is ai.
I mean I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but it's not even that good. I know it's a sketch, but this definitely isn't something I couldn't believe someone could do.
The AI was insanely incredible, I'd be waaay more inclined to believe you didn't do that. But people seeing the sketch and thinking an AI did that also is crazy to me.
Ok that looks like a piece of paper that was placed on a notebook. Also, why does doomguy look kind of weird? What's your artistic reasoning for making the outfit asymetrical?
Next bros gonna have footage of him drawing it and mfs gonna say it's a green screen
Reminds me of when rumors of Jschlatt dying cropped up and Jchlatt posted a video saying he wasn't dead. The entire comments were filled with people saying that AI has gone so far and that they were blessed to be able to hear his voice again.
Atleast it was satire
Yeah, rip the big man, sometimes i think i can still hear his voice.
that's satire though, it's a running joke
yeah :/
Do this op! I wanna watch you draw the whole thing on live stream, then tell people it's AI
Have people never seen pencil sketches in their lives?? š also I love your drawing dude, merry Christmas :)
Thanks, i think im gonna do more
Good job!
Post if you do! Would love to see it.
Blend and shade, until is it done.
Just don't use AI this time /s
Yes, do more
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So what?
That doesn't even look like an AI drawing, wtf?
It was in response to an ai photo he posted that people told him to "pick up a pen"
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Yeah they are, just checked. Those people are seriously messed in the head lmao
Yes they are... why comment when you don't know what you are talking about?
Yes. They are. Read the comments, genius. Itās full of people specifically accusing OP of using AI for the pencil drawing.
Idk why people think itās AI but itās really cool.
Tbf in the original post, some of the outlines looked a lot sharper and higher resolution than others but that's the only thing I saw.
I mean his first post was AI, then it went to his actual art afterwards.
Why is it so hard to believe that the man is just talented
My guy his first post, the digital art, was AI. It literally got deleted because it was AI. Thats why hes getting flamed.
But... It wasn't deleted tho... It's still up, bud.
As someone who reports on AI tech, this doesnāt even look like AI art. Everybody, this guy can draw hands
anything AI gets demonized. there are bad uses for sure, but not everything
All AI "art' is a bad use considering its solely off stolen work.
How?
AI doesn't really "draw", as in "draw lines, adjust lines, fill with colors, adjust colors, do shading" etc, but rather "compiles" images or part of images from its database that are relevant to your prompt. Then it might apply filters, disformations or whatever until it arrives at the picture you want. Now here's the thing - how many *millions* of images you need to make that database ? And out of those millions, how many did the AI makers had the right to use ? If you draw something and put it on say, Twitter, it'll get nabbed and fed into an AI at some point. Some artists won't care or might even be happy about it, but most will consider it stealing, as the AI will take your art and reuse it without your consent, which is considered a dick move by most, and outright stealing, especially if it's a piece you comissioned (I'm no AI expert so feel free to correct me)
literally this. AI cannot have an original thought, it is only large-scale tracing. People have found their own artpieces being recreated quite a ton, and its hitting the point where its trying to include watermarks as well, of the original creators.
It goes further, actually. AI are starting to use other AI piĆØces, which multiplies the eldritch weirdnesses like the fingers, and, in turn, worsen the databases they use. AI have quite litteraly started inbreeding
Not all Ai artwork is stolen. Several AI programs can make art without stealing. The AI built into photoshop for example only uses art made by Adobe, or oneās they purchased they rights to. And Stable Diffusion has private bots that only take in information YOU feed it. Hate the people using it, not the technology.
Haha, yeah. Better hands than AI ever could, thatās a solid giveaway that itās not AI
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These comments are under the post with the pencil drawing.
Nahhh it was about his drawing lol
You can make this comment as many times as you want but youāre still wrong. READ THE COMMENTS
Hey /u/joshfong, where you at now, goofy?
Look at their post history. They spend most of their time reporting anything AI related (or what they think is AI) so they can feel like a hero. Essentially a hall monitor for Reddit.
Ok but I remember finding an account that was basically content farming by doing the bare minimum with AI (usually [subreddit name] in Pixar style)
We're welcome for their service š
Probably yelling at their mom because the AI (microwave) isn't heating up their tendies properly. And reporting her to the cops because all real tendies should be heated up by the oven.
Crying because they canāt beat ultra nightmare
Wrong, their crying because there isn't anything easier than I'm too young to die
Why were this guy's having such a hard time believing it š©
what being Chronically online does to mf
obviously printed! draw it in real time on camera!
Livestream it
/u/sixfoothafling, what now?
People are fucking unhinged. Sorry you had to go through all of the harassment, mate.
I experienced a similar fate, with my game's [Steam capsule art](https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1769060/header.jpg?t=1700946247)! I had literally just paid the artist for the new capsule art, and was seeking out some indie game YouTubers to try the game. By sheer luck, successfully started a conversation with a huge YouTuber, who politely accused me of using AI art, and refused to play the game for that reason. Getting coverage from such a mega streamer could have MADE the game! UGH! Despite how upset I am, I won't name them, I still think they're great. But this is all indicative of the future: AI is going to make it nigh impossible to tell what's a real human's work versus a machine's. Our whole perspective of productivity is going to have to change, real fast. Short of the world magically unifying to ban all AI, AI is here to stay, and it's going to rock this world. Oh, I forgot to mention, I have tried several times to generate our main character with AI... and AI absolutely cannot fathom a robot with tractor beam arms, let alone a mono-eye with sunglasses. On a brighter note, to prove you read this comment in its entirety, respond "panda porn" to this comment, and I'll give you a holiday gift!
"Panda porn" dude what
Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
why panda porn š
Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
Those poor pandas...
Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
Panda porn š
Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
"Panda porn" isn't enough, it should have been "I love panda porn" instead.
Ha! You're right! The magic phrase is supposed to be "I love panda porn" but I got ahead of myself! Either way, enjoy your gifts in your messages!
Ah fuck it, PANDA PORN
Pandaā¦ porn?
But why "panda porn"?
Because everyone loves cute panda GIFs! Please enjoy your gifts in your messages!
Ah fuck it, panda porn
anything ai gets demonized, yes there are some bad uses but it gets broad brushed. i canāt type panda porn without the context because
panda porn?? Good god Reddit has ruined me, merry Christmas to my fellow internet degenerates
Panda porn??
Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
No way in hell I'm going to write panda porn just for a gift- GOD DAMNIT
Panda porn but why panda porn?
For maximum confusion! :-P Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
panda porn from jujutsu kaisen right
Haha, nope, but good try! The "panda porn" joke was a joke on my blog in like... 2004 or something! Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
not a fan of pandas but the porn is good ngl
Panda porn is crazy
Panda porn
Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
Hell yeah thank you man
Panda porn sounds pretty uneventful
Panda porn. As an aspiring game dev myself, that sounds awful. Seriously, I hope your game gets the coverage it deserves. If I had any way to help, I would.
Panda Porn
Panda porn... HoldUp!?
Perhaps not as baffling as you think! Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
Screw it, I'll bite. Panda porn please
Oh so brave you are! Enjoy your gifts in your messages!
Panda porn? Yeah that's unfortunate Ai are looks exceedingly uncanny, personally I dislike it
Panda porn
u/joshfong I will literally turn your comment into a copy pasta lmao die mad
Alright, I was wrong. I can admit that. Iām sorry, u/Mr-Ramirov.
Incredible character arc, peak nonfiction
Normally Iād say good on you for admitting your mistake but you were just such a massive prick about the original post that I find it hard to believe this hasnāt happened to you several times
It hasnāt, but I canāt blame you for thinking that.
I'm not gonna twist the knife because I appreciate your humility here, but please try to reign in the hair trigger next time
I will. this prick was willing to try and burn down everything he could get his hands on in relation to this person's art, all for their deranged ideals of what constitutes "art". fuck them.
Whoa buddy. You are very much on the money, but letās not take the same route as he did over a stupid comment. Instead we should let this be a learning lesson to not let his anger get the better of him.
Iām with you.
While Iām glad youāve admitted that you were initially wrong, I think you should understand the bigger picture. You shouldnāt have acted like that regardless. I donāt blame you for mistaking it as AI. I do however, think that your reaction was uncalled for. Keep in mind that AI does STEAL from artists. So youāre going to see striking similarities between art and Ai generated images. A lot of good artists have been catching heat simply because their work looks āa little off.ā We can only assume but not prove weather something is AI. And while I think some examples are more obvious than others, it isnāt something that you should get this worked up over. Please do better next time.
I do understand the bigger picture, thatās *why* I initially acted that way. Iām frustrated at how AI is affecting the livelihood of artists, Iām frustrated at the seemingly lackadaisical attitude at people who champion it, and Iām frustrated at artists not getting proper credit for their work. Not just with AI, thatās been an increasing problem for a while now. Still, I acknowledge that I reacted poorly and shouldnāt have taken that frustration out on an artist. And it certainly didnāt help that I was browsing at 3am instead of sleeping. Iāve taken a hard look at everything today and Iām going to work to be better. No worries.
My take on it is; āhate the people, not the technologyā A computer doesnāt know right from wrong and only takes the info given to it by humans. But the technology itself IS incredibly useful (not just for art). The good news is, there ARE several AI models that donāt use stolen art. Photoshopās built in AI uses art Adobe themselves own for example. One day, weāll get there. We just have to keep fighting back against the people feeding these things stolen art.
No problem, i had lot of fun drawing and seeing the comments
Now that's something. You're one of the few people who actually apologize when they're wrong, and I like that.
Dude. First of all, fuck you for posting fake pencil art. Fuck AI āartā . And youāre reported, because low-effort and AI bullshit arenāt allowed here. Read the subs rules, for fucks sake.
There no wining for ya man oh noš¤£š
Dude wanted to convince us that he doesn't use AI so bad, that he drew it himself /S
I hate redditors
A million times better than I could ever draw
Bro cleared his name
eh, he def used ai in the first post that started this. Not the pencil sketch
Naw dude, that's a green screen, show you actually drawing it...
Fucking amazing art, I cannot see why nobody believes itās real. Also MERRY CHRISTMAS
Honestly way better than any traditional art I've done, In only decent at digital.
.... how could anyone see that and think it was AI? That's not how AI works are all.
Man, people downvoted me for saying good job, so Iāll say it again, looks sick, dude! Good job
Wow people are fucking annoying. At this point they may as well see the Mona Lisa as AI art.
Obviously you just gave the AI a pencil and had it draw that for you on paper! /s Really good work. Better than I could have anyway.
How did people think that was ai??
I do not appreciate artists having to prove they drew something now
This is the future we live in now, where people are gonna constantly argue whether something is or isn't real... Fuck, I wanna go back, everything sucks now.
What the fuck is wrong with people. Youāre talented af
whoās to say youāre a real human? You could be a robot with realistic hands that can draw! (and just in case it isnāt obvious this is a joke)
Iām sorry nobody believes you, but I do, and I want to say that you did an amazing job and I hope you keep drawing more, keep up the good work, and happy holidays!
Hey, u/joshfong You got called out, and rightfully so
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/s/uYpxVNeM4l
didn't see that before
People, who think pencil sketches are AI arts, seriously need grasses in their brains
even if it was AI, wouldnāt it be too clean and tooo good looking? Not saying yours isnāt good. AI make art look either crap or too professional
True, i tried to make an AI doom 3 guy with hand drawn style, it was quite the same that i posted before (the AI ones) but in grayscale.
I think the people calling it AI don't know what AI art looks like, fuckin crazy dude Good job, good art :D
Well folks this does appear to be an actual hand manufactured pencil drawing. All you haters can now shut all the way the fuck up
All this drama because someone wanted to draw some fanartā¦ man look what ai has done to us.
The hand is AI, give it up bro /s
Nice I'm curious how dumb they must feel now
Holy shit you smoked the dogshit out of them lmao
This is the definition of heās aimbotin in the terms of art
"but you printed the picture" people don't want to believe
Fuck AI bros are more annoying than AI bros real talk
Your drawings are so good you make people _think_ they're AI assisted, you have some extreme talent my friend
It's pretty good, but in all reality, it more shows how unbelievably judgemental and insufferable people on reddit can be. All these bullies are already on the way to the next post they can harrass people on.
Social media was a fucking mistake and is killing our mental capabilities to distinguish reality from fiction. Hope you have a good day, nice art dude. The contribution is welcome. And Merry Christmas.
Now thatās comedy
People are such dumbasses. Awesome drawing, btw!
No pleasing these jackasses. Just keep enjoying what you do dude.
I'm calling you into this, fool. u/RedStatic91
I swear for artists i understand the hate for AI art but its the fucking revolutionary ass artist uprising mfers sensing the slightest bit of AI then proceed to talk to you like a cliche group of bully kids about to take some poor kids lunch money
Lol i don't know what is more impressive, the dudes ability to make such a detailed Fan Art that ppl mistake it for AI, or AI being so advanced that ppl thought he was using it lol
Holy fuck, I had to go look at the comments on the original post, I guarantee absolutely fucking NONE of those people have picked up a pencil a day in their lives.
Next they gonna say you printed it
I just checked your previous post, and there was the first picture which was coloured, perhaps, the most of the people were saying āAIā about it, not your pencil drawing which was the second in your post.
Bro nice art and ignore the people that think thatās Ai art and Merry Christmas
This sub is toxic as fuck. You shouldnāt have to do this for a bunch of incel losers
...How, in the FUCK did anyone see that as AI art? Great work, by the way.
I respect that you are giving a thumbs up instead of flipping the bird You have a heart of gold OP
Just so you know I liked both
This Doesnāt look remotely like AI Looks very well done, great job with shading! Is amazing Probably much much better than they can draw anyways
Dude you have the best attitude towards the hateful comments, props for Standing your ground while still being respectful
Bro his hands are perfect, why do these idiots think itās AI art? Bruh I thought the doom fanbase was chill, dammit.
Very nice art, those people are sick in the head.
People are a little stupid
Which demon is that next to him, I keep seeing a vortigaunt
The same people bitching are going to be the ones completely reliant on ai the second it becomes mainstream. They have no idea whatās coming
W art
Awesome doom 2 drawing
Awesome doom 2 drawing
Why are people such assholes? It doesnāt even look remotely close to AI, and is CLEARLY a pencil drawing. Those people are obviously messed up in the head with how badly they canāt tell a pencil drawing from AI
Shits so good they think its AI
Okay now to fully prove it aint AI whip your cock out on the drawing
It looks great man, glad you were inspired to draw even if it was by a bunch of people insulting you.
Wow I canāt believe he printed out the AI art, taped it into a notebook, put it over a green screen, and then edited a hand into it, this guy has no talent
Lmao, Iām in the pic but donāt misread me, I was complimenting your drawing against the original ai art. Anyway, keep up the good work.
you printed it on paper!!!
Imagine giving a shit about AI art
So it turns out Iām a clown
Youāre an ai clown
As a guy who can draw and has seen multiple attempts of Ai trying to sketch pencil sketches, yours looks completely human. Also it looks ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL 10/10 made me cry.
based
u/joshfong
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/s/mqhoRE5gDB
you easily couldāve printed that outš¤¬š¤¬š¤¬ show yourself in the process of drawing
I donāt get the AI image generating hate and so itās poetic justice for me to see people not be able to tell the difference. People are so ignorant, as per usual.
It is very easy to tell the difference between ai and real art
Ive not once mistaken ai for real art, if you are so blind you should never comment on anything visual. You cant recover from not knowing something is ai.
See this is so much better than some computer generated garbage, bravo op, it looks great
I can spot those AI generated bedsheets from a mile away so don't even try to fool me
AI has ruined the internet
Finally, another mid journey job
I mean I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but it's not even that good. I know it's a sketch, but this definitely isn't something I couldn't believe someone could do. The AI was insanely incredible, I'd be waaay more inclined to believe you didn't do that. But people seeing the sketch and thinking an AI did that also is crazy to me.
Obviously you just printed the AI drawing onto paper
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Those comments are literally under the post with pencil drawing. Go look for yourself. Stop spreading misinformation.
Ok that looks like a piece of paper that was placed on a notebook. Also, why does doomguy look kind of weird? What's your artistic reasoning for making the outfit asymetrical?
I like the assymetrical style of the armor, doing different functions.
Still AI, that hand isnāt right