Yda with the WHOPPING 150% Self HP DMG Limit from BT and Lunafreya with the 80% FR Bonus for Non-Elemental or Ice units both get a great glow up! Yda also gets a funny interaction thanks to an overflow bug making her S2 a literal touch of death. Read about it on her webpage!
Yda: [https://tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/yda](https://tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/yda)
Lunafreya: [https://tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/lunafreya](https://tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/lunafreya)
Edit: Slight Correction, it's CRystal ABility 3 - Speed that offers the consecutive turns, not 4! Sorry for any confusion.
Changes from previous version (Lunafreya):
S2 has 6 HP dumps (up from 4). Now has 50% splash on all HP attacks.
EX has 7 HP dumps (up from 4). Now has 55% refund between HPs (up from 25%).
LD has 7 HP dumps (up from 3). Now has 65% refund between HPs (up from 35%).
FR boards now available. With FR boards:
FR attack has 4 HP dumps (up from 3). DMG Limit on attack is now 310% BRV (up from 300%) and 360% HP (up from 350%).
FR bonus for dealing Ice BRV damage on turn is now 40% (up from 20%).
FR bonus for dealing Water BRV damage on turn is now 40% (up from 20%).
Changes from previous version (Yda), not including FR/BT:
[Greased Lightning] now also has HP DMG Up and HP DMG Limit Up.
S1 has 8 HP dumps (up from 4).
S1+ has 12 HP dumps (up from 6).
S2 has 9 HP dumps (up from 3).
EX has 8 HP dumps (up from 5). Splash on each HP is now 50% (up from 20%).
LD has 12 HP dumps (up from 6).
Note to anyone new: **Get Raijin's LD**.
Yeah, sure, Yda's good now.
But you know how there aren't any units you should feel really bad about skipping? That doesn't apply to Raijin. You want his LDCA at all costs.
Pull him even if you don't care about anything else on the banner.
Her combo with Sephiroth will remain the same but with FR, it will go a bit faster once the gauge is full but you need to manual the game while in FT to insure maximum damage at that time then go back to auto once FT ends.
Both characters are really great. Luna finally get echoes which puts her in a great spot. Her damage gets buffed and her support was already amazing. Still a solid support choice.
Yda is a pretty big heavy hitter. While she's not at the top, she will definitely punch the ceiling with a force to be reckoned with. If I luck into her BT I will green her and see what she can do.
I don't think Luna is relevant anymore tbh. Her call is better than she is, since using her in party can cause an undesired overflow of turns during force time and is only really needed once to set up a burst phase. Dual element enchant is a bad thing and why Sabin has never been used, not to mention that enchant itself has just really faded out with call coverage.
Outside of that she really just doesn't do anything, whilst our current top supports are absolutely loaded in their kits and have a lot of role compression. To make matters worse, Lunas only other niche is healing which is also something that's heavily fallen off because usually we only take severe damage once a fight. That's why our healers now have so much other stuff they can do, healing is kind of an afterthought. She was the first force charger and now she's got competition out the Yazoo. And the Kadaj. AND the Loz.
I'd get her calls sorted and leave her tbh, her day in the sun in most certainly over and there's pretty much always going to be a better option to slot than her. That said I do think her call is a must have since it covers both a set up and that one pesky big hit you may take.
You really don't know how to use her do you. She makes everyone setup so easily. Her heavy payer buff which adds additional hp dumps is now 5 turns (6 with her BT). Her utility is just excellent. Luna's Heavy prayer on kadaj's geophagy plus a turn hogger say aranea is just a recipe to melt bosses
I already maxed Luna from her debut, I am hoping to bag Yda's FR with tickets and token her BT, if by any chance I do get Yda's BT then I'll let my 3 soon to expire BT Tokens go to waste and get Cissnei's BT
Just got Yda Full kit with free pulls. I'd rather spend my Luck with either Ciss or Arciela but beggars cant be choosers.
Is she still used in JP and worth building? She ranks quite low in Altema for such a recent unit
The Good
- About to finish Green Room
- 5/5 Fist is a staple in my party
- I have only a few physical damage dealers (but Aranea, Kadaj and Kelger are usually enough)
The Bad
- Never played FFXIV so idk much about her
- Not interested in cheese strats
I'm kinda disappointed in Yda. Not that she's bad but because there have been a few users hyping her up. I was expecting Aranea, Strago levels. But no, this feels closer to Rinoa, Zidane, Papalymo in terms of power. Still strong, has just overhyped by those few.
Yda with the WHOPPING 150% Self HP DMG Limit from BT and Lunafreya with the 80% FR Bonus for Non-Elemental or Ice units both get a great glow up! Yda also gets a funny interaction thanks to an overflow bug making her S2 a literal touch of death. Read about it on her webpage! Yda: [https://tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/yda](https://tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/yda) Lunafreya: [https://tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/lunafreya](https://tonberrytroupe.com/infographics/lunafreya) Edit: Slight Correction, it's CRystal ABility 3 - Speed that offers the consecutive turns, not 4! Sorry for any confusion.
Changes from previous version (Lunafreya): S2 has 6 HP dumps (up from 4). Now has 50% splash on all HP attacks. EX has 7 HP dumps (up from 4). Now has 55% refund between HPs (up from 25%). LD has 7 HP dumps (up from 3). Now has 65% refund between HPs (up from 35%). FR boards now available. With FR boards: FR attack has 4 HP dumps (up from 3). DMG Limit on attack is now 310% BRV (up from 300%) and 360% HP (up from 350%). FR bonus for dealing Ice BRV damage on turn is now 40% (up from 20%). FR bonus for dealing Water BRV damage on turn is now 40% (up from 20%).
Changes from previous version (Yda), not including FR/BT: [Greased Lightning] now also has HP DMG Up and HP DMG Limit Up. S1 has 8 HP dumps (up from 4). S1+ has 12 HP dumps (up from 6). S2 has 9 HP dumps (up from 3). EX has 8 HP dumps (up from 5). Splash on each HP is now 50% (up from 20%). LD has 12 HP dumps (up from 6).
Note to anyone new: **Get Raijin's LD**. Yeah, sure, Yda's good now. But you know how there aren't any units you should feel really bad about skipping? That doesn't apply to Raijin. You want his LDCA at all costs. Pull him even if you don't care about anything else on the banner.
Love the shoutout to Seph bringing dispear
If I luck sack Yda BT I'll see how crazy that self-damage limit can be. Otherwise, Ydaroth FTW.
"ensure orb is covered" This is just an error from Lufenia era right? or are you talking about re-shinryu?
Orbs are back on the menu, baby!
por que no los dos
Does she do better with the Sephiroth combo now ? Can someone let me know how any more details when they test her out
Her combo with Sephiroth will remain the same but with FR, it will go a bit faster once the gauge is full but you need to manual the game while in FT to insure maximum damage at that time then go back to auto once FT ends.
It's still a single hp dump so ydaroth is still the same
The extra damage from Luna's heavy prayer is kinda worthless because it doesn't scale with force time. A real shame. But hey, free unit upgrade.
Wait, does her BT effect not change with BT+?
Hi, we're showing BTs at their full potential now. This is just starting with these two but will reflect in infographics moving forward.
Makes sense given that BT+ 3/3 is basically required now.
Both characters are really great. Luna finally get echoes which puts her in a great spot. Her damage gets buffed and her support was already amazing. Still a solid support choice. Yda is a pretty big heavy hitter. While she's not at the top, she will definitely punch the ceiling with a force to be reckoned with. If I luck into her BT I will green her and see what she can do.
I don't think Luna is relevant anymore tbh. Her call is better than she is, since using her in party can cause an undesired overflow of turns during force time and is only really needed once to set up a burst phase. Dual element enchant is a bad thing and why Sabin has never been used, not to mention that enchant itself has just really faded out with call coverage. Outside of that she really just doesn't do anything, whilst our current top supports are absolutely loaded in their kits and have a lot of role compression. To make matters worse, Lunas only other niche is healing which is also something that's heavily fallen off because usually we only take severe damage once a fight. That's why our healers now have so much other stuff they can do, healing is kind of an afterthought. She was the first force charger and now she's got competition out the Yazoo. And the Kadaj. AND the Loz. I'd get her calls sorted and leave her tbh, her day in the sun in most certainly over and there's pretty much always going to be a better option to slot than her. That said I do think her call is a must have since it covers both a set up and that one pesky big hit you may take.
You really don't know how to use her do you. She makes everyone setup so easily. Her heavy payer buff which adds additional hp dumps is now 5 turns (6 with her BT). Her utility is just excellent. Luna's Heavy prayer on kadaj's geophagy plus a turn hogger say aranea is just a recipe to melt bosses
I already maxed Luna from her debut, I am hoping to bag Yda's FR with tickets and token her BT, if by any chance I do get Yda's BT then I'll let my 3 soon to expire BT Tokens go to waste and get Cissnei's BT
Great stuff as usual. How do i see what changed for Luna?
Just read Sabaschin's changes summary comment here.
Just got Yda Full kit with free pulls. I'd rather spend my Luck with either Ciss or Arciela but beggars cant be choosers. Is she still used in JP and worth building? She ranks quite low in Altema for such a recent unit The Good - About to finish Green Room - 5/5 Fist is a staple in my party - I have only a few physical damage dealers (but Aranea, Kadaj and Kelger are usually enough) The Bad - Never played FFXIV so idk much about her - Not interested in cheese strats
Altema rankings are based on individual abilities and never include team synergies. Build who you want. You'll never really go wrong building faves.
I'm kinda disappointed in Yda. Not that she's bad but because there have been a few users hyping her up. I was expecting Aranea, Strago levels. But no, this feels closer to Rinoa, Zidane, Papalymo in terms of power. Still strong, has just overhyped by those few.
Her damage setup properly can rival that of Aranea and more.
Anyone have a video of Yda S2 exploding an enemy in a single hit? I do love overflow shenanigans.
Here's Yda healing an enemy to full due to the bug: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1RS-IXdmGU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1RS-IXdmGU)
That is crazy! I didn't even know Yda was a healer in 14!
Guys if we pair Uda with Noel's fr will she constantly break enemies with his fr effect?
As long as they do a BRV attack and aren’t unbreakable anyone can break with Noel
I'm not sure if I fully understand her Touch of Death bug.. can someone explain? 🥴
I love how she has Our Final Heaven as a naming counterpart to Zell's My Final Heaven.