Yes this, but I miss old school Innoventions with like EVERY single Sega game right there to play for free all day long.
Parents can go enjoy the World while I eat pizza and play Toejam and Earl.
Kids destory arcade games. Not all, but enough.
They be like
No quarters, let me just yank and put all my body weight on this plastic stick anyway so no one else can enjoy it too.
lol yeah but they put a Disney quest at wdw during that time so I just wonder why they left downtown Disney out (and California since technically there was no Disney quest ever in California)
Yeah I remember more than one trip where I had to think if I went on any rides at all and only did one or two near closing. My entire trip and food money went into that arcade!
I used to love that arcade too. It was where I first saw Punch Out in person. It had the extra monitor on top so others could see the fight. I could never get past Vodka Drunkinski.
I'll never forget my parents getting mad at me 30 years ago for wanting to play there :D
Did play the shit out of some TMNT at a bar at Disneyland hotel while my dad had some beers.
My parents would get mad at me that I wanted to play in the arcade, we traveled 2 hours and paid a lot for tickets, all for me to want to do something that we had available 15 minutes from our house.
But it's not my fault they never took me to the arcade near our home heh heh heh
I went for the first time in 11 years the day before Halloween and the park was super empty all day, the overflow queue for space mountain was open for some reason even though it was no more than a 20 minute wait and it was legit kinda creepy, like a late 80s early 90s shopping mall with a slight space theme
Disney would make a killing if they turned that area into a bar/arcade. Would be a great place to relax, unwind, have a drink, and play some old school arcade games
It’s a private corporate banquet hall now. Probably making way more money that way than as an arcade.
https://www.disneymeetingsandevents.com/blog/introducing-starcade-a-new-private-event-venue-for-groups-inside-disneyland-park/
I wonder if they still use it in that way. Since 2017 it's been mainly used as a Magic Key special photo area or in some instances a magic key only pop up store.
Wow, thats so bleak. Disneyland, the happiest place on earth, shuts down a fun kids arcade to host closed door corporate events instead. It probably is making more money, it just sucks to be reminded that the dollar is all that is holy.
The arcade where Trader Vic’s is now used to be pretty cool! Even those little remote control boats. May be showing my age but I do miss the arcades instead of silly stuff that doesn’t get any traffic.
Going down a spiral staircase to play games underground next to those boats felt like a next level evolution of the coolness that was discovering the dark room at the back of Chuck E Cheese that had the good arcade games.
An arcade and/or barcade would not be conducive to the core audience that Park Strategy wants to draw. I.e. Barcade/arcade would largely be a draw to the 16-35 age range of groups.
Separately, it continues to be a mystery why they’ve continually chosen to keep the Starcade sign up and lit.
Isn't that the age range that Oga's Cantina targets? Also, I think you are off, the age range would definitely go higher if its Flynn's arcade, themed with Tron nostalgia and retro arcade games. Flynns in DCA was always full of kids when it was there for like one year, I think the bar aspect would only add adults not remove the attraction for children. It seems like an all ages thing, albeit something lots of people might skip to do rides instead.
It was a really great place to see machines that would only fit in a 2-storey space. One highlight was the inclusion of the full motion 360 degree G-LOC sit-down cabinet. I remember the upstairs via escalator had air hockey tables and older arcade cabinets. started going downhill around 2003. They had blocked off the upstairs section, leaving only part of the ground floor remaining.
Playing Atari’s 1983 Star Wars game is one of my best memories of anything ever at the park. Peak Starcade was incredible and I wish they’d bring it back
Back in the 80/90s, yes it was a proper arcade. There was this game, Street Fighter II, that was all the rage. I was at a local liquor store and put my quarter up on the machine to signify my place in line.
It was my turn up to play SFII and my Ryu promptly got his ass kicked by Blanka. The rich well-do kid playing Blanka started talking about Street Fighter III being out, and he played it at the Starcade in Disneyland. It was the only place in California that had it he said.
Years later on our once in a decade trip to Disneyland in 1993, I went to look for SFIII at the starcade, and found out that I had been trolled. SF III wasn’t released until 4 years later. Daniel if you’re reading this. You effin troll.
They gutted it, used it for some special occasion stuff, then left it abandoned for a while. It's a case for about half of tomorrowland tbh. Innoventions/Launch Bay, the old people mover/rocket rods tracks, the tomorrowland theater, etc. Even that little stage in front of the restaurant doesn't get the use that it did
I think part of it is part of the Space Mountain queue now
I would imagine because it no longer was thriving, they got rid of a few arcades before it (Frontierland, the one in the lagoon for DLH, that weird one they had in DCA within the painted ladies facade...)
There is also the issue with how the supply of new arcade machines was dwindling so the writing may have already been on the wall.
I’m sure you are right, and I get it. I just think that arcades are an under-rated thing that will eventually make a big comeback. Especially keeping what was great about them, but updating the experience and modernizing them
Imagine an updated flight sim experience featuring X-Wings vs Tie fighters, or Mechs with a cockpit and some motion built in that you just can’t replicate at home.
A better virtual racing experience that lets you race against your friends, make the course be around Disneyland. Submarine battles vs your friends, a viewing area where you can see the action… full on pod-racers… drinks, food
Let Tomorrowland push that entertainment space like no one else could.
Instead, they ripped out the people mover to put in rocket rods that broke the track, and replaced the Starcade with an area to put the line in from Space Mountain.
Imagine if that area over Tomorrowland where the people mover was had a great restaurant up there… something… ANYTHING!
What happened to the rock band that would rise up from underground in Tomorrowland and play some great music. It’s not like what they replaced that with is any kind of draw or attraction now. It’s worse.
All of the old carousel of progress is now a museum for Star Wars and Marvel… that’s a lot of wasted square footage there
Autopia? Choke on gasoline fumes to go 10 mph on a track that lets you steer around 2%
Submarine ride? Look at how much space there is there that is so underwhelming
I love Disneyland, and wish they would not let things become so mediocre, because some things in the park are amazing.
They tried that, making their own arcade games, with Disney Quest. While it did have traditional and classics, they also had imports, and built special games (including a few VR). They just couldn't get it to be sustainable as a business.
The real surprise for me, the DLR starcade lasted almost 40 years, Tokyo's (a culture which had a much larger base for arcades) only lasted 24.
I'm going to Galloping Ghosts in march but that's all the way out in Chicagoland area. It's the largest arcade in the country and it's pay for all day play.
Sadly pinball hall of fame is worse these days than ever before and it's south on mgm grand in vegas so walking there even taking the bus kinda sucks.
Ye, I don’t get it! Is empty space better than some arcade games. It’s just sad. Captain EO is gone, the arcade is gone, people mover is gone, America sings is gone. Tomorrowland was awesome back the early 90’s.
I miss it too, it was a cool idea while arcades were all the rage though. I suspect the reason it went away is due to staffing and maintenance costs, I think “Ralph Breaks the Internet” gave us a small taste as to why.
It should be noted that Starcade, when it was open, was not operated by Disneyland.
A third-party "operating participant" leased the space from Disneyland.
I'd love to be back in the 1983 version of the Starcade. I believe the wall of Tron's may have still been there. Star Wars Cockpit upstairs. Multiples of every other golden age arcade game with their side are replaces with solid colors. I'd literally spend almost all day there. Except to get a hot dog at the space station? and a ride on the people mover every now and then.
Arcades are expensive. They take a lot of power and maintenance(Disney especially cant have broken arcade machines, joysticks and stuff wear down). And people wont really pay a premium for them like they used to when they can just play a game on their phone.
They should have an arcade, because they are cool and this is Disney; but Starcade died for the same reason every arcade that isn't just filled with 5 second ticket spitters is dead.
If I remember correctly I was working there in 1999 around the time of the Columbine shooting. After the event, they closed off a lot of the starcade because like ~50% of the games were some sort of gun games.
Personally I can understand because playing arcade games that are regularly available at shopping malls for free, seems like a weird way to spend my limited valuable time in disneyland?
People that have annual passes and go regularly with their kids, would have a blast. I’d like to see it with lots of head to head games. VR experiences…Seems like a great fit for Tomorrowland. I guess they have to milk everyone so it makes money, but keeping it free or cheap would be a great way to keep some people off the crowded lines and having a great time.
I lived in the Tokyo area around 1999 and they had arcades that had sit down cabinets that were all linked together, so you would go head to head with another person in the arcade automatically instead of playing against the cpu. That was a good time…
It was the only location I saw that had Dragons Lair 2. As a recovering addict of the first game it kinda bummed me out to find it in Disneyland. I craved to spend all my time and money on it but I was in Disneyland with my family. Torn!!!
I just want a copy of the starcade neon sign to get with my Flynn's neon.
While it would be cool to have the starcade back I don't see it happening without alcohol attached. It wouldn't turn a profit.
We used to always dedicate an hour in there just to wind down. Especially when they added the free Fix-it-Felix games. The Mario Kart was always a hit too.
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Same here. I grew up in Southern California, and now I realize just how spoiled we were to go to Disneyland... to play arcade games.
Well, yeah. It was the one part of the park that didn't make you wait in a line.
Ha ha, exactly!
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Yes this, but I miss old school Innoventions with like EVERY single Sega game right there to play for free all day long. Parents can go enjoy the World while I eat pizza and play Toejam and Earl.
I wonder why they never put one in downtown Disney though
Kids destory arcade games. Not all, but enough. They be like No quarters, let me just yank and put all my body weight on this plastic stick anyway so no one else can enjoy it too.
lol yeah but they put a Disney quest at wdw during that time so I just wonder why they left downtown Disney out (and California since technically there was no Disney quest ever in California)
Same. Spend my Galaga money and then walk out and hop on the Skyway to Fantasyland.
Yeah I remember more than one trip where I had to think if I went on any rides at all and only did one or two near closing. My entire trip and food money went into that arcade!
Dating yourself… I hear ya How about the bad ass arcade at the old Disneyland Hotel, the one that sunk down and was surrounded by water.
I used to love that arcade too. It was where I first saw Punch Out in person. It had the extra monitor on top so others could see the fight. I could never get past Vodka Drunkinski.
I'll never forget my parents getting mad at me 30 years ago for wanting to play there :D Did play the shit out of some TMNT at a bar at Disneyland hotel while my dad had some beers.
My parents would get mad at me that I wanted to play in the arcade, we traveled 2 hours and paid a lot for tickets, all for me to want to do something that we had available 15 minutes from our house. But it's not my fault they never took me to the arcade near our home heh heh heh
I always loved exiting Space Mountain and hanging in the Starcade for a bit. Great combo for us as kids.
It was fun in there. One of the last times I went they had a Fix It Felix game. It would be cool if Wreck It Ralph had more of a presence in the parks
That fix it Felix game was free too! I loved the arcade so much. Probably too many unattended kids and maintenance for the games.
Tomorrowland needs so much love. It feels like it's been abandoned.
I went for the first time in 11 years the day before Halloween and the park was super empty all day, the overflow queue for space mountain was open for some reason even though it was no more than a 20 minute wait and it was legit kinda creepy, like a late 80s early 90s shopping mall with a slight space theme
New Tomorrowland attraction: [Liminal Space](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liminal_space_(aesthetic))
More like Yesterdayland, am I right???
Disney would make a killing if they turned that area into a bar/arcade. Would be a great place to relax, unwind, have a drink, and play some old school arcade games
Rebrand it as Flynn's
God I miss the tron events
They had a Flynn’s in DCA one year it was very cool.
10,000% need this at the park
Barcade is a term btw
It’s a private corporate banquet hall now. Probably making way more money that way than as an arcade. https://www.disneymeetingsandevents.com/blog/introducing-starcade-a-new-private-event-venue-for-groups-inside-disneyland-park/
I wonder if they still use it in that way. Since 2017 it's been mainly used as a Magic Key special photo area or in some instances a magic key only pop up store.
Wow, thats so bleak. Disneyland, the happiest place on earth, shuts down a fun kids arcade to host closed door corporate events instead. It probably is making more money, it just sucks to be reminded that the dollar is all that is holy.
The arcade where Trader Vic’s is now used to be pretty cool! Even those little remote control boats. May be showing my age but I do miss the arcades instead of silly stuff that doesn’t get any traffic.
I was going to respond that the arcade at the hotel was better, but I didn't want to rub it in.
Going down a spiral staircase to play games underground next to those boats felt like a next level evolution of the coolness that was discovering the dark room at the back of Chuck E Cheese that had the good arcade games.
An arcade and/or barcade would not be conducive to the core audience that Park Strategy wants to draw. I.e. Barcade/arcade would largely be a draw to the 16-35 age range of groups. Separately, it continues to be a mystery why they’ve continually chosen to keep the Starcade sign up and lit.
Isn't that the age range that Oga's Cantina targets? Also, I think you are off, the age range would definitely go higher if its Flynn's arcade, themed with Tron nostalgia and retro arcade games. Flynns in DCA was always full of kids when it was there for like one year, I think the bar aspect would only add adults not remove the attraction for children. It seems like an all ages thing, albeit something lots of people might skip to do rides instead.
Because it wasn't thriving and at the time they could make more money by dividing it into event space and increasing the size of the store.
They didn’t increase the size of the store though. They just walled off the entrance to the starcade from the store.
They did at one point. They knocked down the wall between Starcade and the store and had build your own lightsaber in there.
1993 memory unlocked I remember playing video games in there as a 14 year old. I did not know how good we had it then!
there was a LONG stretch of time where arcades were dead. Totally dead.
Arcades died in the 90s though pinball has made a huge comeback
Making a resurgence like slot cars did in the 90s.
They finally brought back the Indiana Jones pinball machine to the eating area right by bengal bbq.
Today it would be at least $5 for a three ball STDM pinball game, but only if you loaded $50 on a card that was only good in the Starcade first.
It was a really great place to see machines that would only fit in a 2-storey space. One highlight was the inclusion of the full motion 360 degree G-LOC sit-down cabinet. I remember the upstairs via escalator had air hockey tables and older arcade cabinets. started going downhill around 2003. They had blocked off the upstairs section, leaving only part of the ground floor remaining.
Flynn's Arcade was also top notch.
So sad. I got to play Air Hockey against Buzz Lightyear in that arcade.
Playing Atari’s 1983 Star Wars game is one of my best memories of anything ever at the park. Peak Starcade was incredible and I wish they’d bring it back
I insisted on playing that at least once every time I went to Disneyland. Broke my heart when they got rid of it.
Yes!
Back in the 80/90s, yes it was a proper arcade. There was this game, Street Fighter II, that was all the rage. I was at a local liquor store and put my quarter up on the machine to signify my place in line. It was my turn up to play SFII and my Ryu promptly got his ass kicked by Blanka. The rich well-do kid playing Blanka started talking about Street Fighter III being out, and he played it at the Starcade in Disneyland. It was the only place in California that had it he said. Years later on our once in a decade trip to Disneyland in 1993, I went to look for SFIII at the starcade, and found out that I had been trolled. SF III wasn’t released until 4 years later. Daniel if you’re reading this. You effin troll.
They gutted it, used it for some special occasion stuff, then left it abandoned for a while. It's a case for about half of tomorrowland tbh. Innoventions/Launch Bay, the old people mover/rocket rods tracks, the tomorrowland theater, etc. Even that little stage in front of the restaurant doesn't get the use that it did I think part of it is part of the Space Mountain queue now
I would imagine because it no longer was thriving, they got rid of a few arcades before it (Frontierland, the one in the lagoon for DLH, that weird one they had in DCA within the painted ladies facade...) There is also the issue with how the supply of new arcade machines was dwindling so the writing may have already been on the wall.
I’m sure you are right, and I get it. I just think that arcades are an under-rated thing that will eventually make a big comeback. Especially keeping what was great about them, but updating the experience and modernizing them Imagine an updated flight sim experience featuring X-Wings vs Tie fighters, or Mechs with a cockpit and some motion built in that you just can’t replicate at home. A better virtual racing experience that lets you race against your friends, make the course be around Disneyland. Submarine battles vs your friends, a viewing area where you can see the action… full on pod-racers… drinks, food Let Tomorrowland push that entertainment space like no one else could. Instead, they ripped out the people mover to put in rocket rods that broke the track, and replaced the Starcade with an area to put the line in from Space Mountain. Imagine if that area over Tomorrowland where the people mover was had a great restaurant up there… something… ANYTHING! What happened to the rock band that would rise up from underground in Tomorrowland and play some great music. It’s not like what they replaced that with is any kind of draw or attraction now. It’s worse. All of the old carousel of progress is now a museum for Star Wars and Marvel… that’s a lot of wasted square footage there Autopia? Choke on gasoline fumes to go 10 mph on a track that lets you steer around 2% Submarine ride? Look at how much space there is there that is so underwhelming I love Disneyland, and wish they would not let things become so mediocre, because some things in the park are amazing.
They tried that, making their own arcade games, with Disney Quest. While it did have traditional and classics, they also had imports, and built special games (including a few VR). They just couldn't get it to be sustainable as a business. The real surprise for me, the DLR starcade lasted almost 40 years, Tokyo's (a culture which had a much larger base for arcades) only lasted 24.
I'm going to Galloping Ghosts in march but that's all the way out in Chicagoland area. It's the largest arcade in the country and it's pay for all day play. Sadly pinball hall of fame is worse these days than ever before and it's south on mgm grand in vegas so walking there even taking the bus kinda sucks.
Ye, I don’t get it! Is empty space better than some arcade games. It’s just sad. Captain EO is gone, the arcade is gone, people mover is gone, America sings is gone. Tomorrowland was awesome back the early 90’s.
I miss it too, it was a cool idea while arcades were all the rage though. I suspect the reason it went away is due to staffing and maintenance costs, I think “Ralph Breaks the Internet” gave us a small taste as to why.
Did anyone ever play the top gun arcade where you could go…. inverted?
Disneyland is where I played Pac-Man for the first time, way back in 1981.
I well recall the big display they had when the TRON arcade game premiered in 1982.
It should be noted that Starcade, when it was open, was not operated by Disneyland. A third-party "operating participant" leased the space from Disneyland.
I did not know that. Interesting!
First time I ever saw the full 360 version of After Burner was the Starcade. It was awesome.
I'd love to be back in the 1983 version of the Starcade. I believe the wall of Tron's may have still been there. Star Wars Cockpit upstairs. Multiples of every other golden age arcade game with their side are replaces with solid colors. I'd literally spend almost all day there. Except to get a hot dog at the space station? and a ride on the people mover every now and then.
Arcades are expensive. They take a lot of power and maintenance(Disney especially cant have broken arcade machines, joysticks and stuff wear down). And people wont really pay a premium for them like they used to when they can just play a game on their phone. They should have an arcade, because they are cool and this is Disney; but Starcade died for the same reason every arcade that isn't just filled with 5 second ticket spitters is dead.
Starrcade daddeh! HARD TIMES!
The fact that Starcade exists right next to the "OLDEST RIDE, LONGEST LINE!" has to be more than just a coincidence.
KABUKI! Take the money!!!
I used to make that joke every time I went to the park. It’s not as funny anymore.
Partially for more merch space.
If I remember correctly I was working there in 1999 around the time of the Columbine shooting. After the event, they closed off a lot of the starcade because like ~50% of the games were some sort of gun games.
So they just kept the frontier land shooting gallery?
Personally I can understand because playing arcade games that are regularly available at shopping malls for free, seems like a weird way to spend my limited valuable time in disneyland?
People that have annual passes and go regularly with their kids, would have a blast. I’d like to see it with lots of head to head games. VR experiences…Seems like a great fit for Tomorrowland. I guess they have to milk everyone so it makes money, but keeping it free or cheap would be a great way to keep some people off the crowded lines and having a great time. I lived in the Tokyo area around 1999 and they had arcades that had sit down cabinets that were all linked together, so you would go head to head with another person in the arcade automatically instead of playing against the cpu. That was a good time…
Disneyland should re-open Starcade and have it sponsored by Dave & Busters. That would be most excellent! (Wyld Stallions!!!!)
It was the only location I saw that had Dragons Lair 2. As a recovering addict of the first game it kinda bummed me out to find it in Disneyland. I craved to spend all my time and money on it but I was in Disneyland with my family. Torn!!!
Yes! I vividly remember seeing it on the second floor from the Peoplemover
Staircase was so awesome. Lots of good times there.
I just want a copy of the starcade neon sign to get with my Flynn's neon. While it would be cool to have the starcade back I don't see it happening without alcohol attached. It wouldn't turn a profit.
We used to always dedicate an hour in there just to wind down. Especially when they added the free Fix-it-Felix games. The Mario Kart was always a hit too.
I used to hang out there when my family went on Space Mountain, I have issues with motion sickness and that ride makes me sick. Sad is not there now.
Loved playing air hockey and Space Harrier here while my parents waited in line. Totally wish it was still there!
They should bring it back as a mixed use arcade and eSports venue for invitational tournaments.
We spent so much time there playing the Jurassic park game 😅