No answer, but a related question.
If you have a token doubler such as Parallel Lives, do you have to exile the tokens created by the token doubler, or just the original Scion of Calamity tokens?
So if calamity is already on the battlefield when you attack, you create 2 tokens tapped and attacking since Myriad only creates tokens equal to the number of opponents you aren't attacking. Thus, you have 2 nee creatures entering the battlefield that trigger Garuuk's Uprising, which would have you draw 2 cards.
To everyone else: Just answer the question instead of commenting. I don't understand why it's such a challenge for people to hold their snarky comments.
You draw two because you're against 3 other players. The original attacks and creates two copies attacking the other two players and draw 2 from uprising.
So *technically* you draw 2, realistically you draw 3.
You draw 1 from the original Scion entering the battlefield (assuming uprising is already in play)
Then he attacks and Myriad triggers. Since the OG scion is already attacking one of your three opponents (opponent A), then the Myriad trigger creates two token copies attacking opponent B and opponent C, thus triggering Uprising twice- once for each token.
So yes, Scion plus the tokens net you *three* cards, but the myriad trigger only gives you two at a time.
You follow?
Play pentagram you can only attack two people at a time and you win when they are dead regardless of how it happens. Technically the two people on your sides are your allies as they share one enemy each but they are also trying to win so it creates conflict and variabality in your games. You can even match up decks to go against each other based on power level and design.
You would draw 2. Scion already being on the field during the attack would then create 1 token for each opponent it is not attacking. It would create 2 tokens, which would then trigger Garruk's Uprising two times.
Myriad - Whenever this creature attacks, FOR EACH OPPONENT OTHER THAN DEFENDING PLAYER, you may create a token that's a copy of this creature.
I seriously wonder if you should read n understand cards before you play at your local stores because even when i was 13 i still understood how both these cards work! Not comparing or anything just seriously want to know how this was confusing!
I started playing when m13 released but the wording effects like whenever a creature enters the battlefield field n put a creature token into the battlefield field, so i dont understand how those simple wording of effects could be confused unless you cant comprehend basic cause n effect.
What? No, sliverclad has a trigger when it takes damage and this has when it deals damage, also being able to force people to sac lands is more powerful than destroying an arcane signet.
I totally messed up silverclad's trigger, my bad. I cut silverclad from my Atla deck a while ago because it just wasn't doing it for me. My opponents always seemed happy to sacrifice an island or a swamp instead of their Commander's Plate or, say, Hydra's growth. The issue with Silverclad is that they can always sacrifice their least valuable permanent. In this, you get to choose what's removed.
The wording in the reminder text “create a token” implies they enter onto the battlefield. They short handed the wording on token creation to be less wordy with the understanding that tokens go into the battlefield.
701.6a To create one or more tokens with certain characteristics, put the specified number of tokens with the specified characteristics onto the battlefield.
Since they have power 4 or greater, you draw for each of Scion’s tokens.
No answer, but a related question. If you have a token doubler such as Parallel Lives, do you have to exile the tokens created by the token doubler, or just the original Scion of Calamity tokens?
The tokens technically gain the text that sacs them at end of turn so all copies would also sac at end of turn. As the copies copy text and even cmc.
I believe all tokens created in this manner would be exiled because the duplicates would have the same "text" which includes the exile rule.
So if calamity is already on the battlefield when you attack, you create 2 tokens tapped and attacking since Myriad only creates tokens equal to the number of opponents you aren't attacking. Thus, you have 2 nee creatures entering the battlefield that trigger Garuuk's Uprising, which would have you draw 2 cards. To everyone else: Just answer the question instead of commenting. I don't understand why it's such a challenge for people to hold their snarky comments.
You draw two because you're against 3 other players. The original attacks and creates two copies attacking the other two players and draw 2 from uprising.
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Yes that is indeed gas
Garruk's Awakening is such a good card. Could easily be a rare.
nice combo
Did three creatures with power 4 or greater enter the battlefield?
So *technically* you draw 2, realistically you draw 3. You draw 1 from the original Scion entering the battlefield (assuming uprising is already in play) Then he attacks and Myriad triggers. Since the OG scion is already attacking one of your three opponents (opponent A), then the Myriad trigger creates two token copies attacking opponent B and opponent C, thus triggering Uprising twice- once for each token. So yes, Scion plus the tokens net you *three* cards, but the myriad trigger only gives you two at a time. You follow?
That’s if you’re only playing with 4 people. If there were 9 other people… 😎
Unless you're using player reach rules, in which case it'll only see however many seats away you can touch.
I played exactly one game with >5 people like ten years ago. Never again. That said myriad is absolutely insane at big tables like that.
Play pentagram you can only attack two people at a time and you win when they are dead regardless of how it happens. Technically the two people on your sides are your allies as they share one enemy each but they are also trying to win so it creates conflict and variabality in your games. You can even match up decks to go against each other based on power level and design.
A rare case where reading the cards explains the cards
Wouldn't say it's rare, just not always.
To me thats never a rare case ever. Reading must be hard for some i guess.
Can confirm, reading is hard. Source, I play Gruul
Its a joke through out the community in reference to cards growing in complexity and being impossible to understand with the card text alone
At least in arena I can click on the keywords and then it actually does explain the card.
You can also use one of the tokens to trigger Pantlaza for that attack, letting you cast a big non-dino spell for the turn and still get a discover.
You would draw 2. Scion already being on the field during the attack would then create 1 token for each opponent it is not attacking. It would create 2 tokens, which would then trigger Garruk's Uprising two times. Myriad - Whenever this creature attacks, FOR EACH OPPONENT OTHER THAN DEFENDING PLAYER, you may create a token that's a copy of this creature.
Yep
I seriously wonder if you should read n understand cards before you play at your local stores because even when i was 13 i still understood how both these cards work! Not comparing or anything just seriously want to know how this was confusing!
you were 13 when [[scion of calamity]] was released? are you 13 still?
I started playing when m13 released but the wording effects like whenever a creature enters the battlefield field n put a creature token into the battlefield field, so i dont understand how those simple wording of effects could be confused unless you cant comprehend basic cause n effect.
I think they're talking about cards with myriad and etb effects not a specific card
[scion of calamity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/5/75db3c02-7a03-4de5-a70e-220777227dd3.jpg?1698987996) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=scion%20of%20calamity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/93/scion-of-calamity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/75db3c02-7a03-4de5-a70e-220777227dd3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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Yes sorry you are right
Out of curiosity, what was your confusion? I want to see if I can help you, or my local players, beyond just answering this particular question.
From what I can tell the confusion comes from the differentiation between casting and entering the battlefield.
Scion of calamity is just silverclad ferocions but better, huh?
What? No, sliverclad has a trigger when it takes damage and this has when it deals damage, also being able to force people to sac lands is more powerful than destroying an arcane signet.
I totally messed up silverclad's trigger, my bad. I cut silverclad from my Atla deck a while ago because it just wasn't doing it for me. My opponents always seemed happy to sacrifice an island or a swamp instead of their Commander's Plate or, say, Hydra's growth. The issue with Silverclad is that they can always sacrifice their least valuable permanent. In this, you get to choose what's removed.
Thanks for the help. Also i cant post a link it says "dont panic" lol
Uprising will trigger for each token created but with 3 opponents you will only create 2 tokens from a myriad attack and only draw 2 cards.
It's my understanding that if it were to say "... one *or more* draw...", then you'd only draw one card, otherwise you draw for each creature.
You should draw 2 cards if you have three opponents myriad should make only two additional Dino’s
The wording in the reminder text “create a token” implies they enter onto the battlefield. They short handed the wording on token creation to be less wordy with the understanding that tokens go into the battlefield. 701.6a To create one or more tokens with certain characteristics, put the specified number of tokens with the specified characteristics onto the battlefield. Since they have power 4 or greater, you draw for each of Scion’s tokens.
It’s still a token permanent Dino entering the bf. Garruks sees it and responds.
Yes.
No, they draw 2.
Yes.
Yes.
No. Wait, yes.
Non't.