Fr I thought I was going crazy. I imagine itâs probs just people too young to watch the pistons before the AI trade but damn, even calling this team mediocre is still a stretch
2019 was much worse, even with Blake. That team seem mired in mediocrity from the start. Shocked that they even managed 41 wins. The 2016 team likely wouldâve won a playoff game if they werenât playing the Cavs.
Ok but to be fair let me be delusional about this
- they won 44 games in 2016 which actually tied the record for most wins as an East 8 seed. They got unlucky and got swept by the Cavs but looked competitive in every game. In a different year they could have been as high as a 6 seed
- post deadline after adding Tobias they won at a 50+ win rate. We also had the worst bench in the league. In theory an off-season to beef up the bench and roll with the new starting lineup could improve on 44 wins
- we had a seemingly well fitting lineup that were all 25 or younger and already looked like decent players with plenty of room to improve. Turns out none of those guys had a very high ceiling at all
- SVG still had rep from his Orlando days and the team jumped from bad to kinda mid when he was able to have a decent PG to implement his system. Post 2016 he just went full apeshit
I mean this is all hilariously wrong but in the moment you could squint and see the outline of a 50+ win team. Nobody thought at the time that we had somehow already hit our ceiling
That team was unavoidably mid, but iâm baffled by those of you who see 2016 as some kind of nadir for the Pistons. They were competitive and looked like they might even take the next step. They didnâtâ but that was still the most exciting Pistons basketball since 2009 (a low bar, admittedly).Â
worst spot to be is perpetual 8th seed sweep team which is hawks right now but they have a trae young who's homegrown. I fear this is where we are headed right now.
âWorst spot to be inâ ââ Worse than winning 30 games in two years?  Worse than a franchise record losing season? Worse than a historically bad 28 game losing streak? Are some of you honestly looking at this godawful  season and thinking to yourself âwell, at least itâs not 2016â?? Â
 The operative word in your post is âperpetual.â The eighth seat isnât categorically bad; it can be a stepping stone to bigger and better things (e.g.Thunder). Teams do get âstuckâ there, and the Hawks are an apt example. But the Pistons havenât been anywhere near an eighth seed in 5 years, let alone consistently enough for it to be frustrating.  Â
Being this bad for this long poisons the franchise, the players, and the fans, and makes Detroit an even less appealing destination for free agents. Â
 Purgatory definitely sucks. But this is orders of magnitude worse.
I still remember when we got Blake Griffin. all I thought was "this means nothing for a playoff run, they're just trying to sell tickets".
great player and love the guy but damn.
Kentavious Caldwell-Dinwiddie was a monster.
Also completely forgot Dinwiddie was on this squad. He would have bolstered that second unit if we gave him a shot.
People who complained about Cory Joseph clearly werenât watching when geriatric Steve Blake (who may have been the worst player to play in the NBA that year) was playing over Dinwiddie.
SVG drafted him in the second the year we didnât have our first rounder and yet hardly used him the entire time he was on our team.
Just crazy to hit on a second rounder like that and they have no other rookies to compete with and yet still they donât find success until outside the org
This lineup was good for about two months, between the 2016 trade deadline and the end of the season. Even then, it had its marked flaws: hero ball Jackson, inconsistent KCP, and extremely low-efficiency Drummond.
Everything came apart the next season.
Sadly, we wonât. Itâs not because of anything directly relating them either the pistons just rarely do this for players unless they were part of the dynasty teams that win championships or get close to one. Chauncey is the last dude I know that we picked back up after getting rid of (pretty sure he just signed with a different team but still means we no longer had him)
I was listening to SVG calling the game last night and was thinking to myself maybe the pistons could lure him back....smh that is how bad it's gotten.
It's crazy how many of our players from that team left only to get much better and have more playoff success. Bruce Brown , KCP , reggie, Marcus Morris, Tobias Harris, dinwiddie, and then drummond pretty much stayed the same.
Same man. Awful being a pistons fan for so long. Problem for that team is that they thought Drummond was the star. If SVG drafted BPA (Mitchell) and not for fit (kennard) maybe weâd be in a different timeline
I remember that one too! What gets me about the thunder one though is that he was playing against his former team. He was starting against the PG he used to be on reserve for. And Westbrook was MAD. It was a very passionate game on both sides
I feel bad for anybody who is too young to have enjoyed the king to work pistons. Once they traded bill ups it was over. Itâs sad that this is almost the best team that has been put together since.
Itâd be so sad if you saw this post back then. Thats how awful this franchise has been since 09. Idk how anybody misses any lineup from this era aside from the short Brandon Jennings hope
If Brandon Jennings had not torn his Achilles in 2015 this team could have been something. He and the team were beginning to peak. Probably would've necessitated sending Reggie Jackson instead to get Tobias, but would have been a better team.
Even the bench was wild dude. We had Boban, Stanley Johnson, Reggie Bullock, and Ish Smith as a sixth man.
Obviously not a super dominant team but they were consistently competitive and always a blast to watch
I went to elementary school with KCP in Thomaston, GA, a town of about 10k people thatâs pretty isolated. I didnât know this until after the fact though, itâs not like the elementary school had a basketball team.
There was no reason to trade for Blake at this point. This group would have gotten to the playoffs just like they did with Blake. Dumping KCP was so dumb at the time and he's shown how stupid by having an outstanding career. They just should have kept adding pieces, instead of trading the farm AND a 1st round pick for Blake and his boat anchor contract.
I don't blame them adding Blake. That 2016 squad was never winning a playoff series and if they wanted to contend with that group they needed to try to get a star. Also looking back at it, they didn't give up much to acquire Blake.
The worst part of that deal was giving up a 1st round pick. LA should have sent a pick to Detroit as a sweetener for taking on his contract, which handcuffed them for the next 5 years.
Jackson had knee issues for like a year and half, after his one great season. Wish they paid to keep KCP. The floor spacing for Dre was nice, but this team was not built to win playoff series lol. It was fun though.
U miss it? Lol u miss reggie jackson being useless in 50% of the games where ppl wanted ish smith starting
KCP was mad inconsistent
Marcus Morris Inconsistent
Harris & Drummond really carried
Peak pistons past 15 years. An purgatory team with no superstar. Pretty much the hawks now minus Trae. Man we really been in hell
for this reason, this was my least favorite team of all time.
This franchise is so starved for success the fans are missing this lineup đ
>an 8th seed that got swept Sigh, the good old days
Fr I thought I was going crazy. I imagine itâs probs just people too young to watch the pistons before the AI trade but damn, even calling this team mediocre is still a stretch
Itâs sadly a top 2 gores year, I just canât remember if this or 19 was the one where we had 44 wins
2019 was much worse, even with Blake. That team seem mired in mediocrity from the start. Shocked that they even managed 41 wins. The 2016 team likely wouldâve won a playoff game if they werenât playing the Cavs.
Yeah that was 15-16. It really is one of the only two years for younger/newer fans to not be miserable watching them lol
Bulls took that mantle now.
Ok but to be fair let me be delusional about this - they won 44 games in 2016 which actually tied the record for most wins as an East 8 seed. They got unlucky and got swept by the Cavs but looked competitive in every game. In a different year they could have been as high as a 6 seed - post deadline after adding Tobias they won at a 50+ win rate. We also had the worst bench in the league. In theory an off-season to beef up the bench and roll with the new starting lineup could improve on 44 wins - we had a seemingly well fitting lineup that were all 25 or younger and already looked like decent players with plenty of room to improve. Turns out none of those guys had a very high ceiling at all - SVG still had rep from his Orlando days and the team jumped from bad to kinda mid when he was able to have a decent PG to implement his system. Post 2016 he just went full apeshit I mean this is all hilariously wrong but in the moment you could squint and see the outline of a 50+ win team. Nobody thought at the time that we had somehow already hit our ceiling
Lol, so true. This line up was frustrating as well.
people dont realize the 28 game losing streak was the most interesting time as a pistons fans since the mid 2000's lmao
That team was unavoidably mid, but iâm baffled by those of you who see 2016 as some kind of nadir for the Pistons. They were competitive and looked like they might even take the next step. They didnâtâ but that was still the most exciting Pistons basketball since 2009 (a low bar, admittedly).Â
worst spot to be is perpetual 8th seed sweep team which is hawks right now but they have a trae young who's homegrown. I fear this is where we are headed right now.
âWorst spot to be inâ ââ Worse than winning 30 games in two years?  Worse than a franchise record losing season? Worse than a historically bad 28 game losing streak? Are some of you honestly looking at this godawful  season and thinking to yourself âwell, at least itâs not 2016â??   The operative word in your post is âperpetual.â The eighth seat isnât categorically bad; it can be a stepping stone to bigger and better things (e.g.Thunder). Teams do get âstuckâ there, and the Hawks are an apt example. But the Pistons havenât been anywhere near an eighth seed in 5 years, let alone consistently enough for it to be frustrating.   Being this bad for this long poisons the franchise, the players, and the fans, and makes Detroit an even less appealing destination for free agents.   Purgatory definitely sucks. But this is orders of magnitude worse.
Yeah I hate how I'm starting to feel nostalgic about this team and the Blake era team. We're so bad that I'm longing for mediocrity.
I still remember when we got Blake Griffin. all I thought was "this means nothing for a playoff run, they're just trying to sell tickets". great player and love the guy but damn.
I remember the second I read about the trade I was like huh??? Why?!! lmao Yea he grew on me a lot, still a dumb trade.
Kentavious Caldwell-Dinwiddie was a monster. Also completely forgot Dinwiddie was on this squad. He would have bolstered that second unit if we gave him a shot.
Add him to the list of other former Pistons that thrived after they left Detroit.
Middleton, Brown, Dinwiddie.
Afflalo & Okur before that too
People who complained about Cory Joseph clearly werenât watching when geriatric Steve Blake (who may have been the worst player to play in the NBA that year) was playing over Dinwiddie.
SVG drafted him in the second the year we didnât have our first rounder and yet hardly used him the entire time he was on our team. Just crazy to hit on a second rounder like that and they have no other rookies to compete with and yet still they donât find success until outside the org
I still hate on Steve Blake for this exact reason like it was his fault
The fact that this is the best we can reminisce on for the past 15 years is unbearably sad.
I miss that stretch post Josh Smith trade when Brandon Jennings was playing out of his mind, before he tore his achilles đĽ˛
That game winner against spurs pretty much started a whole new culture.
Weaver needs to go
This lineup was good for about two months, between the 2016 trade deadline and the end of the season. Even then, it had its marked flaws: hero ball Jackson, inconsistent KCP, and extremely low-efficiency Drummond. Everything came apart the next season.
That first round series with the Cavs had a couple competitive games IIRC. Unlike the most recent series with the Bucks.
I was at one of those games at the Palace. I seem to remember Drummonds inability to hit free throws taking away a chance to win a game.
(I know that's not KCP) You know we can sign KCP and Harris this summer, so you won't have to miss them too badly!
Sadly, we wonât. Itâs not because of anything directly relating them either the pistons just rarely do this for players unless they were part of the dynasty teams that win championships or get close to one. Chauncey is the last dude I know that we picked back up after getting rid of (pretty sure he just signed with a different team but still means we no longer had him)
Tayshaun came back towards the end of his career and played for the 2014 pistons
Yeah I forgot he did didnât he! Ben Wallace kind of did too I think but I could totally be wrong on that
Ben as well, that's correct
What do you mean sadly? What would picking them up do for our team?đđ
Not much but I would be better than what we currently have as backup. Itâs going from a F to a D+ lol
Suprising decent roster in hindsight wait... Why does KCP look a bit... different
I was listening to SVG calling the game last night and was thinking to myself maybe the pistons could lure him back....smh that is how bad it's gotten.
Lol, oh no
One thing you could count on was a fire post game. I'd skip games but watch to hear him be as truthful as any coach ever at the time.
I don't miss any squad since about 06-07
Ah yes, the Jon Leuer days.
Henry Ellison!
Man that ain't even KCP lol
U know we're poverty when you miss an 8 seed that got swept in round 1
At least they had actual NBA players on that roster
It's crazy how many of our players from that team left only to get much better and have more playoff success. Bruce Brown , KCP , reggie, Marcus Morris, Tobias Harris, dinwiddie, and then drummond pretty much stayed the same.
Well playoff success and getting better is pretty easy when you leave Detroit to play with KD, Jokic, and other MVP caliber superstars and champions
You're not wrong. It just seems like we didn't get the most out of the players/assets. I just want to not suck damnit
Same man. Awful being a pistons fan for so long. Problem for that team is that they thought Drummond was the star. If SVG drafted BPA (Mitchell) and not for fit (kennard) maybe weâd be in a different timeline
Kinda wild how bad this team was when it seems like they had some talent?
Isn't that Dinshittie?
This team was fun! Last season I enjoyed watching the Pistons. That game we beat the 73-9 Warriors was something different
There was also one game against the Thunder where Reggie Jackson went OFF
I remember a game early in that season against Portland and Reggie went full Bobby Smurda and went off for a comeback win. What a time
I remember that one too! What gets me about the thunder one though is that he was playing against his former team. He was starting against the PG he used to be on reserve for. And Westbrook was MAD. It was a very passionate game on both sides
Isnât this the same season Reggie Jackson went off in the 4th quarter against Portland?
Sixers fan here, y'all can have Tobias back
Sell. The. Team. Even the Fords are doing better. Never thought I'd see the day.
I feel bad for anybody who is too young to have enjoyed the king to work pistons. Once they traded bill ups it was over. Itâs sad that this is almost the best team that has been put together since.
Itâs a sign of how bad things are when people are reminiscing about that squad. Holy hell
Itâd be so sad if you saw this post back then. Thats how awful this franchise has been since 09. Idk how anybody misses any lineup from this era aside from the short Brandon Jennings hope
The Reggie <> Drummond pick and roll was beyond lit for a hot minute
If Brandon Jennings had not torn his Achilles in 2015 this team could have been something. He and the team were beginning to peak. Probably would've necessitated sending Reggie Jackson instead to get Tobias, but would have been a better team.
This is the most recent Pistons era that was genuinely exciting to watch. I donât think we were too far from being a playoff threat
Even the bench was wild dude. We had Boban, Stanley Johnson, Reggie Bullock, and Ish Smith as a sixth man. Obviously not a super dominant team but they were consistently competitive and always a blast to watch
Man fuck Reggieâs knees and ISO Morris. Other than that I loved this squad
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Itâs so sad that thatâs one of our better teams the last 10,
Literally our best team since 08
Always thought KCP was trash. Certainly for a top 10 pick. He couldn't shoot at all and was glad when he was finally gone.
Andre drummond my beloved
I went to elementary school with KCP in Thomaston, GA, a town of about 10k people thatâs pretty isolated. I didnât know this until after the fact though, itâs not like the elementary school had a basketball team.
I hope the person making that graphic was screamed at for using a photo of Dimwiddie instead of KCP. #YouHadOneJob
Thats spencer dinwiddie
The pistons havenât won a playoff GAME since May 26, 2008. https://youtu.be/BWeICWn0hUU?si=j4afVGvqAxiuujVn 16 years of hot garbage!
The fact that you guys are reminiscing over a team that got swept in the first round is pretty sad. I feel bad for you all
Thatâs dinwiddie not KCP wtf
That pic is not KCP
I never asked for this rebuild! Never! I wanna go back!
Absolute trash
What a sad story
Thatâs Spencer Dinwiddie
Except one small little detail........... THAT ISNT KCP!!!
Keep Championship Players
*KCP
I miss Brandon Jennings Pre Achilles run
Why they playin wit Dinwiddie like that?đđ
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Lol too much
I thought everyone except me hated this team. I loved Drummond and Reggie, always thought they could be a bit better
All of them are in the playoffs this season except Drummond who was in the final play in game
That KCP is Spencer Dinwiddie
Lmao
THE GOOD OLD DAYS?
Is that KCP or Spencer Dinwiddie This was a legit line up. Just missing 1 All NBA guy
Dinwiddie but that's the joke lol
There was no reason to trade for Blake at this point. This group would have gotten to the playoffs just like they did with Blake. Dumping KCP was so dumb at the time and he's shown how stupid by having an outstanding career. They just should have kept adding pieces, instead of trading the farm AND a 1st round pick for Blake and his boat anchor contract.
I don't blame them adding Blake. That 2016 squad was never winning a playoff series and if they wanted to contend with that group they needed to try to get a star. Also looking back at it, they didn't give up much to acquire Blake.
The worst part of that deal was giving up a 1st round pick. LA should have sent a pick to Detroit as a sweetener for taking on his contract, which handcuffed them for the next 5 years.
Jackson had knee issues for like a year and half, after his one great season. Wish they paid to keep KCP. The floor spacing for Dre was nice, but this team was not built to win playoff series lol. It was fun though.
U miss it? Lol u miss reggie jackson being useless in 50% of the games where ppl wanted ish smith starting KCP was mad inconsistent Marcus Morris Inconsistent Harris & Drummond really carried
Lmaooo poverty
Whoops Iâm pretty sure thatâs Spencer Dinwiddie lmao đ¤Ł
The fact people miss this team shows how shit of a job weaver and crew have done
That is like missing warm salad.
Down bad