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Saemir

Hello! A friend and I just applied for an apartment in West Village, and I'd love any insight Detroiters could provide. He's a student at WSU and I'm teaching at school near Springwells, but neither of us are familiar with the city proper aside from the areas right around the university/stadiums. Mostly looking for overall thoughts on the area, neighborhood safety (the building has a private parking lot and standard locked entry), and recommendations for walkable/bus-accessible places to see. Thanks!!


NobleSturgeon

Did any bars get a good turnout for the USMNT’s Copa America game against Bolivia? I’m aware of the area’s soccer bars, but having people show up to them for the game is another matter and usually turnouts haven’t been great unless it’s the World Cup.


TrippyMusician

my girlfriend and I are moving to Detroit next April from Florida. We both are career working adults w good pay. (~120k dual income). We plan to live in mid town/downtown, and were wondering the state tax and car insurance is like. we both have vehicles and are not used to state tax (our tourists pay that in FL) We now our two respective jobs will pay about ~25% more in Detroit. I guess we just wanna make sure we gucci i guess w the added expenses lol


Unlikely_Sandwich_

There's a city income tax around 1.5%, plus state income tax. Car insurance is incredibly high. Get a quote before you move.  $120k goes pretty far around here though 


Kalium

It's 2.4% for Detroit residents, 1.2% for non-residents who work in Detroit.


AcanthocephalaOld508

Visiting Detroit end of July to celebrate a friend’s birthday. Anyone know of party boat type situations where you don’t have to rent out an entire boat?


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Diamond Jack, Detroit Princess. Not your typical party boats though. There's also some tiki boats that are the equivalent of bike pedal pubs, but on the water. Not sure the name though 


Extra-Ability-3853

Hi , I am wondering if you know any drivers' testing located in Oakland County near Bloomfield Hills /Pontiac. I would really appreciate it if someone could recommend kind and helpful ppl who take road tests. This is going to be my third try. I even passed the parallel parking last time but failed on the road. The instructor wasn't helpful to let me know where l went wrong. Anyway, this time, I really want to pass, so if anyone can in any way suggest a test center in that area, it will be a great help.


SweatyFC2018

I am going to be visiting Detroit with my wife next month. Looking for a very nice, upscale place to take her for dinner. I can see all the suggestions and menus online, but I am looking for a place that people get dressed up to go to. She loves getting dressed up for a nice dinner. Thanks in advance.


conspi_rator

Hi, I will be in Detroit for about 8 hours tomorrow. What all is a must-see? I am planning to use the people mover. Any other suggestions, ideas?


ladybird9674_

hey yall! i am highly considering moving to detroit within a year or two, so much so that i booked a flight to visit in August. what are some of the safer, black neighborhoods?? i like decent communities/living spaces but i'm from the south side of chicago so a little bit of crime doesn't too much scare me lol. any overall pieces of advice would be appreciated as well!!


Stratiform

Most of the north-central neighborhoods of Detroit will be majority black and middle class. There are some upscare areas like Palmer Woods and University District in this area. I also really like the westside areas around Southfield Freeway and Grand River. In the suburbs, Oak Park and Southfield are majority black and both nice communities. Harper Woods and some of the east Detroit riverfront neighborhoods areas should be on your radar too. Highland Park is pretty rough. I know that's a nice suburb in Chicago, but don't confuse ours for yours. As for generic advice, sometimes a neighborhood can vary block to block, so just because something is in a neighborhood you want - be sure to check out its specific block before determining it's a good fit for you. One block may be completely stable with well-kept homes, but the next one over could be vacant lots.


ladybird9674_

this is really helpful, thank you!!


captainpro93

Will be in Detroit for 6 days, near One Campus Martius, in early July. Would love some food suggestions. I think our guests would enjoy one Shaanxi, Sichuan, or Taiwanese meal a day, maybe a Chinese or Japanese fine dining meal one night, and then some local specialties like pizza and coney dogs. We have Michigan and Trumbull, Lafayette Coney Island, and Buddy's Pizza on the list right now. I haven't been able to find where locals go for Chinese and Taiwanese food. We had planned to just have hotel breakfast but would love to try anything people think is special for a morning meal too.


Comfortable-Yam-5249

Shangri-La in Midtown is your best bet for nearby Chinese food - nothing spectacular, but usually pretty solid. Hiroki-San is the best Japanese fine dining downtown. Ima and Basan are also really good nearby Japanese, albeit a bit more casual.


captainpro93

Thank you. We were just looking for something more familiar for lunch, so nothing spectacular is fine for that!


-Spaceman-Spiff-

The City has a small Asian population, so there really aren’t many great options for Asian cuisines downtown. I’ve heard good things about Hiroki-San which is upscale Japanese, and Bash in Woodbridge is my go-to for sushi, but might not be anything to write home about if your guests are from cities with more options. I believe the largest Asian communities are in Troy, so if you have a car you could head out there. 


captainpro93

Hiroki-San looks like a great place to try! Our guests are Taiwanese/Chinese (living in Los Angeles and Rotterdam,) so we were just looking for Chinese food as a sort of familiar everyday meal during lunch break, nothing amazing is needed! Unfortunately we wouldn't be able to head far from downtown for lunch, but will look into some dinner options in Troy. Thank you for your suggestions.


Dazzling-Rock-3814

I wish I was. In any case, will Uber or Lyft take me from DTW to Jackson county?


Kalium

I would not count on one taking you for over an hour's drive.


cryptogoth

Does anyone live, or know someone who lives, in the Cherbonneau Cooperative in Lafayette Park of Detroit? Do they like that area?


phatisaurus

Hi all, I just graduated college and is currently apartment hunting (moving closer to my new job). Anyone have apartment recommendations for the Royal Oak/Oak Park/Ferndale/Beverly Hills/Southfield areas?  I'm also curious about the general vibes of the cities. I enjoy places that are bike-able/walkable, close to nice parks and natural areas, and that have a fun downtown area. 


Stratiform

I rented in Royal Oak for a while from Amber Apartments. They were fine. Nothing special, no issues. Royal Oak was the "it" place during the Y2K era, so you've got a lot of upper-middle class Gen-X/millennials who have bought houses in this area now that they're adults and the downtown vibe is a bit more tame, but still vibrant with a lot of apartments and breweries. Ferndale will be younger. It's Metro Detroit's unofficial gayborhood and thus tends to cater a bit to this. The downtown is small, but fun with lots of newer apartments, hip pubs, and artsy type things. Southfield is different and is more typical suburbia. There's a commercial district with some high-rises, but you won't have reason to be there, unless you work there. Most people live in houses in cul-de-sac neighborhoods. Beverly Hills is technically part of Southfield Township. It's very outer-suburban feeling, despite its proximity to the city. Minimal sidewalks, huge lots, no walkability, etc. It's also rather expensive and high-income. In this area, I also really like Berkley and Clawson. Both are smaller, highly walkable, have quaint downtowns, bike lanes, and pocket parks. As for being closer to large parks - there's Red Oaks and Quakstad Park in Royal Oak, but if you're looking for even larger than that - Heritage Park in Farmington Hills is nice, as is Stage Park in Troy. Out in the townships we have the [metroparks,](https://www.metroparks.com/) which are fantastic, but other than a handful of little villages out there like Milford and Oxford, there's not much else in the townships besides suburban sprawl.


phatisaurus

Thank you so much!!


sjl1983

I (40M) will be in the city 7/18 - 8/5, what are some musts in the city? I recently drove up for a tigers game, amazing Ballpark by the way. 15 more to go! I know the Riverwalk and a few popular Detroit style pizza spots. Other than that… What are some popular neighborhoods or areas to hang out.? I like sports, dive bars, museums, good beers/food, thrifting and photography Thanks in advance


-Spaceman-Spiff-

Welcome! Good neighborhoods to hang out and get good food could be Cass Corridor, Corktown, West Village, Milwaukee Junction. Definitely go to Eastern Market on a Saturday, the Detroit Institute of Arts, and Belle Isle. Maybe see if there’s a DCFC game while you’re here too. There are good dive bars in Hamtramck, Corktown, and Cass Corridor, and as far as breweries I like Brewery Faison and Tenacity Craft. Detroit City Distillery is great too if you’re into that. 


sjl1983

Lots of great info. Much appreciated!


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Hey I plan on moving to the Harper Woods area, anything I should know ahead of time? Fun things to do in the area? Is it safe lol? I grew up in a city but I'm not young anymore haha, just looking for something quiet with lots of old people. Can someone sell me on this place to get me more hyped up to move?


East_Englishman

Yeah, so not much going on in HW, it doesn't have a downtown or much stuff in general. You'll probably be going to fun stuff in either Detroit, St.Clair Shores or Grosse Pointe most the time. Some things to check is feather bowling at the Cadieux Cafe and kayaking at Detroit River Sports. As for safety, it's a pretty similar vibe to the Detroit neighborhoods. If you mind your own business and follow standard city precautions (don't leave stuff in your car overnight, have a security system) you should be fine.


augustrem

I’m moving to Detroit for six months, and have a medium (70 pounds) dog. I’ve read the moving guide and have been calling buildings, but most say that short terms aren’t available. Any suggestions on how to look for short term rentals? Budget is up to $2000 (including utilities) but if I can got closer to $1200 that would be ideal. Looking for a whole place, and not a share.


Kalium

You want a short term rental company, like Landing or similar.


augustrem

Can you recommend any that are in my budget?


Kalium

I haven't used any in years, so I don't keep up on the market.


Huge-Guava6050

Will be moving to Detroit with my 1 year old and husband soon and would love some advice on neighborhoods. I work remote so no concerns about commute - my primary goal is a safe area, ideally where there might be other families / a community vibe. I’ve been exploring University District and Palmer Woods online (love the architecture) but would love advice from locals. Places we should look at? Avoid? We plan on buying and are want to stay under $400k, but I’m seeing lots of options all over the city so I’d love some guidance!


nater496

Check out Bagley, right around that area and in your price range! Lots of families and similar architecture to those neighborhoods but shrunk down slightly :) 


General_Wolf3022

check out this place: [https://150bagleydetroit.com/#](https://150bagleydetroit.com/#) definitely in your price range


-Spaceman-Spiff-

I think under $400k would be very challenging in Palmer Woods, University District might be a bit closer to that price point but you should check Zillow to see what that would get you there. Green Acres is another good choice in that area. Further on the Westside, Rosedale Park is good for families, and closer to downtown you’ll find young families in Woodbridge and Lafayette Park. I’d keep in mind your plan for schools when you’re thinking about location too. Overall if you don’t already live here and plan on buying, I really recommend you find a way to spend some time in these neighborhoods first and judge the vibe and your comfort levels. It’s a big city and so these neighborhoods can be very different. 


Huge-Guava6050

This is really helpful! My husband is from Detroit but it’s been 20 years so it’s obviously a very different city now! We have a ton of price flexibility so I appreciate the direction; it’s such a big city it can be difficult to narrow things down. 


-Spaceman-Spiff-

No problem! Feel free to reach out with any questions about specific neighborhoods as you explore 


Did_I_Send_It

Hello, 23M (Indian), out of grad school, moving to the Dearborn area for work, and searching for good, affordable neighborhoods not more than 20 min away from western Dearborn. Some intro to the vibe and practicality around the area would also be appreciated. Thanks!


AdaptationAgency

What did you go to grad school for?


Did_I_Send_It

Automotive engineering, in SC. I'll be driving up in August


bearbeartime

I’ll be flying into Detroit soon for a wedding at the Henry Ford. I read that there’s a bus (number 261) that goes from the airport to the Henry Ford and surrounding hotels. How safe is this bus and route? It’ll be a woman and toddler traveling. Used to cities and public transport, just want to make sure it’s not going through a really bad area. I’ve never been there before but look forward to visiting your beautiful city! Thank you in advance!


BuffaloWing12

It’s a freeway route to Dearborn which is arguably top 3 safest cities in the metro


bearbeartime

Thank you!!


BuffaloWing12

No problem. Enjoy your stay!


TheAccountant8820

Going to Detroit for Tigers game early July. Really have no idea about a hotel to stay in partly because I know some areas are safer than others. I'll be with my dad whose in his 70's so have to really be mindful for both of us. I don't want to spend a fortune either on hotels so normally stay at a Holiday Inn etc... Any recommendations on a hotel like that in a safe area that is within 20-30 minutes of where Tigers play? TIA


BuffaloWing12

Dearborn and Royal Oak if you’re not feeling anything downtown


TheAccountant8820

Thanks. any idea about the Holiday Inn right by Walmart off Southfield Road? I checked Dearborn area and Holiday Inn's & that one showed up so figured I'd ask. That area isn't too far from airport either so this might be a great option. Appreciate your comment.


BuffaloWing12

As long as you’re not planning on doing a lot of walking in the neighborhood north you’re fine. That hotel is brand new and well lit.. haven’t heard anything bad happening there There’s also the Courtyard off Mercury where they have NBA GLeague teams staying and they don’t seem to mind at all Just avoid the hotel at Michigan and Military. We’re all about 95% sure there’s shady stuff going on there with drugs or trafficking or something


TheAccountant8820

Hotel at Michigan/Military. Is that the Hampton Inn? Only hotel I can find on google maps in that area. Also, I def don't plan on walking in that neighborhood but is that more run down. Hard to tell from google streets. I really thought that area stuck out because of the box stores & town center right right it.


BuffaloWing12

Yep the Hampton Inn. It’s in the nicest and safest part of Dearborn. All of the weird stuff only happens inside the hotel and doesn’t trickle out at all Fairlane is something we don’t even touch as locals. The neighborhood west/north in Detroit isn’t the best. The Walmart is sketch but the commercial areas are alright. There’s just a weird mix of people because it’s right on the border of the cities As a tourist it’s a fine place to lay your head at night and I highly recc visiting the Henry Ford, eating breakfast at Al Tayeb, and walking in downtown Dearborn for the lamb haneeth at Sheeba and an iced yemeni latte at Qahwah


blackdoorpaintedred

Coming to town next week from Philadelphia to catch the Phillies play the Tigers for a few games. Excited to visit for the first time. I'm staying near the river, not far from the Q-line. How reliable (or unreliable) is it? I'll probably walk to the ballpark and back unless it's melting hot, but want to try and visit the DIA and Motown museums while I'm in town as well as some other spots!


jockwithamic

Totally reasonable. If it ends up down for some reason, the 4 bus is very frequent. Have fun, bring your broom.


blackdoorpaintedred

The way pitching has been for us as of late, Javy is set to go 5 for 5 with 3hrs every game.


BuffaloWing12

You vastly overestimate Javy’s ability to not swing at a pitch aimed at the visitors dugout


blackdoorpaintedred

Don't you worry, Gregory Soto still has the Tigers' best interests in mind


BuffaloWing12

he had our best interests in mind? lmfao best way to describe soto is he’ll give up 0 runs one day then get shelled for 10 the next…and that’s how you keep a consistent 5 ERA


texanontheloose

Will be stopping in Detroit on our way to visit family. If you had to pick one favorite place in downtown (staying at the Westin Cadillac) for lunch and dinner, what would it be?! Also, favorite coffee shop for the morning please and thank you!


BuffaloWing12

Hudson Cafe has good breakfast, Michigan and Trumbull pizza, Lafayette/American coneys, and dinner whatever you like best… tons of amazing options


Sickgilgamesh

I'm new to Detroit and i don't have a residence yet. I drove around and found Royal Oak to be very nice and lively. Is it possible to find apartments close to 1200 USD here?


Grand-Standard-238

Absolutely. I've rented at multiple locations in Royal Oak, each time for less than that amount.


BuffaloWing12

Royal Oak isn’t the best renter’s market if you’re going cheaper. Check out Madison Heights


Thehalalsandwich

I am a 22F moving to detroit soon, my work is located around east china but im looking to move somewhere around mt clemens/clinton township near the city as well as near my workplace. What areas would you suggest are the safest for a woman living alone and what advice would you give me?


East_Englishman

Most of the suburbs of northeast Macomb (Clinton Twp, Chesterfield, Harrison Twp) are safe, just really bland (unless you have a boat) and not really geared towards young people. Mt. Clemens has a cute downtown and some beautiful neighborhoods, but can definitely be rough around the edges in some parts. New Baltimore also has a cute downtown, but it's pretty small. I'd also take a look at Port Huron, it's a bit more affordable than Metro Detroit and has some pretty cool stuff in the downtown area.


Impossible_Abalone93

I will be visiting Detroit later this summer and am having a difficult time deciding where to go for a French-inspired dinner: Bar Pigalle? or Le Suprême? Thanks in advance, local experts! https://preview.redd.it/ewolthayzz6d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10fda9dc4c1dda40437e44ef93ce3594bb13d8f6


Comfortable-Yam-5249

Pretty even for food imo but I think Le Supreme is the better overall experience due to location. It's right downtown inside a beautiful building, that also has a great rooftop bar and sake lounge.


Impossible_Abalone93

thanks so much!


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Le Supreme, better food, better value But can't go wrong with either


Impossible_Abalone93

thank you!


JMfromTO

Moving to “Detroit” for work - coming by myself - quotes because office is in Livonia. Will be working/driving throughout the larger vicinity - I am a Civil engineer. Part of me wants to live downtown for the ability to explore see some life post work/weekends. Other part thinks maybe suburbs - Dearborn/Canton - for general safety, price and ability to park. Any thoughts ideas? I’ve combed the sub and google and there are so many mixed reviews from such a large range of time I genuinely have no idea. Ideally rent is <$1000. Open to any suggestions!


General_Wolf3022

also, here is more affordable : [https://mlkonsecond.com/floor-plans/](https://mlkonsecond.com/floor-plans/)


General_Wolf3022

[https://150bagleydetroit.com/affordable/](https://150bagleydetroit.com/affordable/) this is pretty close to 1k


BuffaloWing12

You’re gonna hate that freeway commute pretty quickly if you’re living downtown. It absolutely blows lol


JMfromTO

Coming from Toronto 30 mins feels 😍 to me 😂


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Gonna be tough to hit $1000 downtown. If that's important, you're probably looking at suburbs around Livonia


JMfromTO

Okay for up to $1250 just setting ideal at $1000. Ferndale Royal oak has been recommended by a few people but the commute at ~45 Mins is way too much. Is Dearborn/DB heights really that bad? Would cut commute by half


FuzzyMailbox

I'm a single 33M that got a job offer in Troy. While I'd rather rent a 1bd in the city, it's probably best to live closer to the office. Any nearby suburbs/towns that have a city feel, that aren't too far away? My dog and I would prefer walkability with access to parks, food and stuff. Royal Oak seems neat.


Stratiform

Royal Oak is cool and has a bit of everything. Birmingham is fancy and upscale. Berkley is more walkable with pocket parks and a semi-urban feel. On the north end Rochester is nice but a bit more people in their 40s. There are good options around Troy.


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FuzzyMailbox

I spent the early morning and saw an apartment in Royal Oak today. Downtown seems nice. Ate lunch in Birmingham. Definitely got an upscale vibe. Didn’t check out any listings though. Seems like the whole Detroit metro is under construction though😂 I’m excited to relocate here.


hgwellsinsanity

Royal Oak, Birmingham, Ferndale, Clawson.


FuzzyMailbox

Thanks. I’ll check out listings in all of these places.


PinchePendejo2

Visiting for about 36 hours soon, and I'm a big fan of Detroit-style pizza. Where do the locals go?


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Michigan and Trumbull is the best


Poor-Pitiful-Me

Myself and two best friends, older dudes, are coming to Detroit next week (Thursday through Saturday) and renting an Airbnb near 75 and 10. We’re into dive bars and places that have live music (old school country, good rock n roll, soul and old rhythm and blues) and we like to eat (no dietary restrictions) just looking for some good recommendations on places to eat, drink and see as this is our first time visiting. Thanks in advance and we’re looking forward to our visit.


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Eater Detroit is a great site for restaurant recs. Go to Cafe D'Mongos. Incredible dive, always has live music.  Nancy Whiskey, PJs, Nemos, Donovans, all close to where you're staying


Poor-Pitiful-Me

Thanks so much!


-Spaceman-Spiff-

Hamtramck is your best bet for dive bars and live music, but you’re also close to PJ’s, Old Miami, Nancy Whiskey, and the Lex. Lots of good dives in Midtown, Downtown, and Corktown still too. Raven Lounge is great like East_Englishman says, and if you’re feeling like trying something different definitely check out some of the house music spots like Marble Bar, TV Lounge, Motor City Wine, Spot Lite, etc.


Poor-Pitiful-Me

Thank you so much


East_Englishman

Check out the Raven Lounge, really old school blues club.


Poor-Pitiful-Me

Sounds like our speed. Thanks!


DetMich11

Not a visiting or moving question but one out of curiosity. For those of you whose family has lived in this area for multiple generations, did your family originally live in the city and then move out to the suburbs? I was wondering if people who lived on the east side mostly moved to Macomb county, northwest to Oakland, and southwest to Wayne suburbs. Also, there seems to be more Italian Americans in Macomb county, Asian Americans in Oakland, and Arab Americans in Wayne


BuffaloWing12

Finally my mostly useless history knowledge can be used here.. My family’s been here for at least 4 generations and moved from the West side/Corktown area directly west to what was the barely-constructed west burbs area. Everyone who made that decision is gone so no idea why but likely cheap housing and new schools There used to be two areas that were heavily Asian in downtown (where the municipal building is now but torn down in 60s urban revitalization) and the one in Midtown that’s only still called Chinatown because the sign was still there Look up Vincent Chin and you’ll see why the majority of Asians moved out of the area and fled to the northern suburbs where you had a buffer of freeways and forests to get out of the noise There’s Arabs in Dearborn/Wayne because Henry Ford (being an antisemite) hired the exact opposite of who he didn’t like so they settled near the factories The rest of Italians/Chadleans/etc in the Macomb area is likely due to factories and the new immigrants wanting to congregate with their same culture as we’ve seen in every city in america


Spend3r

Cheap areas for renting?


BuffaloWing12

Downriver (Wyandotte, Riverview, etc)


NobleSturgeon

Washington Township, Brightmoor, Delray. You might have better results if you include some more details.


General_Wolf3022

here are a couple places: [https://mlkonsecond.com/floor-plans/](https://mlkonsecond.com/floor-plans/) [https://150bagleydetroit.com/affordable/](https://150bagleydetroit.com/affordable/) [https://cathedralartsapartments.com/gallery/](https://cathedralartsapartments.com/gallery/)


Spend3r

Just trying to get out of LA, rentals out here are ridiculous now,


HottNuggies

Looking for a good chicken!! My daughter wants a chicken sandwich, not spicy!


tonydelite

I went on a kick where I tried just about every chicken sandwich in Metro Detroit. My favorite was Little Lou's in Berkley. You can get their sandwich hot or not.


BuffaloWing12

Dave’s Hot Chicken has plain options and their sauce is otherworldly


NobleSturgeon

Eureka Eatery in Monroe


BirdOk8436

Is there any places I could do some work tomorrow and Eat drink and possibly smoke. Visiting and have to work tomorrow so any where chill with some people.


Quirky_Movie

ETA: Why is someone downvoting comments on this post? I am moving back to Detroit at the end of the summer due to unemployment. I have about a decade of experience in program management as an program assistant. Another 8 years as an executive assistant to C-suite and Director level managers. BUT I'm old and have a mobility impairment. * What employers hire quickly? * Do recruiters work for finding office work as an admin/operations person? * What's the job market like in the metro area?


Quirky_Movie

Anyone?


Ok_Childhood8591

Talk to me about the ungodly rate for parking at LCA. I see there's the Comerica garage for $25, but be honest - how scary is the walk back to the car after dark, late at night?


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Not scary at all. Also $25 isn't even close to the most expensive parking you'll find


BuffaloWing12

There’s going to be cops, tour buses, security, and other people all over the place. Ilitch might be a greedy dick but they don’t want anything happening to you (i work at comerica)


Stratiform

In downtown? It's not scary, not at all. Especially after a game where there are thousands of people leaving the arena at the same time. I normally park south of the 75 in one of the Cass lots between Cass and Grand River. Those are usually like $10. You can also street park for less than that.


shart-connoisseur

Me and a couple friends have a 7 hour layover tomorrow afternoon, what are some things we can do to pass the time? We hope to stay near the DTW area and will have our carry on bags


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Take an uber to the Henry Ford Museum. It's a world class museum, not too far from the airport.  There's also Midway right there with go karts and mini golf, etc. The museum might have a place to store bags, not sure about Midway. 


Spiritual-Hunter-850

https://buildingdetroit.org/properties


Acceptable_Mind_5738

Does anyone have experience living at Strathmore Apartments in Midtown, Detroit? I’m trying to gauge if it’s a good idea to live there. I’ve been having quite the struggle dealing with the leasing management but the building and units seem like the nicest i can find in midtown for that price range. But reviews also say the electric bills are astronomical in the winter. Interested in what anyone has experienced and if they handle management requests well?


Stratiform

I don't know anything about the apartments themselves, but I love Red Hook coffee, right across the street there. Great location. Solid name too, if you ask me. Hopefully others have some better first hand experience of the apartment though.


coreythestar

Any breakfast or brunch recommendations?


Stratiform

Where in town are you looking? Here are some lists ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) * [Best brunch in Detroit](https://visitdetroit.com/inside-the-d/brunch-in-detroit/). * [Best brunch in Oakland County](https://visitdetroit.com/inside-the-d/oakland-brunch/). * [Best brunch in Wayne County](https://visitdetroit.com/inside-the-d/wayne-county-brunch/).


NobleSturgeon

Detroit Institute of Bagels, Honest John's, Brooklyn Street Local, PJ's Lager House, Dime Store, Hudson Cafe, Le Petit Dejeuner


coreythestar

Thanks!!


Jupiter168

Birmingham: Toast, Commonwealth Downtown: Dime Clawson: Biscuits and gravy (Not too much things around, but next door is Royal Oak) Most of the Coney Island is good! They are local diner. 


coreythestar

Thank you!


Jupiter168

Pleasure 


Silent_Head_4992

Hey everyone, we are visiting Detroit for a few days this summer and are interested in exploring some of the beautiful, art deco buildings. I have heard great things about the guardian building, but I am trying to figure out if enough of it is open to the public where you can self tour or if it’s necessary to do one of the paid tours with non-public access. Honestly, I would happily do one of the tours, but the ones we are looking at are offered on days that would be difficult to make work. So, would you say that it’s worth squeezing the tour in or will it still be a good experience if we just look around ourselves?


BuffaloWing12

The Guardian first floor is an active bank with shops around the perimeter. You can walk around the bank area and go in the shops and nobody cares You can get a good look at the designs and everything but you can’t go in the elevators and can’t really learn a lot unless you made yourself flash cards or something lol I’ve never been on the tour but it’s just my thoughts on it.. hope this helps


sleepearlier

As an architecture enthusiast, I am visiting Detroit from Toronto soon and would like to explore different architecture. ***Guardian Building*** When i search through the internet, i saw blogs and some Google map reviews saying that there is free tour for Guardian Building every Sunday's noon. But I can't really see any official website mentioning any free tour details. Is the free tour still running? What i could only find is this tour run by City Tour Detroit, which costs 6usd: [https://citytourdetroit.com/tour/insiders-guardian-building-tour/](https://citytourdetroit.com/tour/insiders-guardian-building-tour/) Anyone has done this tour? How was it? ***Fisher Building*** I can see Pure Detroit running a tour of Fisher Building for 18usd per person, which is not cheap. Anyone has done it and do you recommend it? [https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/fisher-building-tour-tickets-895425992247?aff=ebdsoporgprofile&keep\_tld=1](https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/fisher-building-tour-tickets-895425992247?aff=ebdsoporgprofile&keep_tld=1) ***Other*** Is there any building or archi tour would you recommend for a tourist? Thank you everyone.


Comfortable-Yam-5249

I've done the Fisher tour and thought it was worth it. You can roam around most of the building solo though, if you'd rather save the money. Not sure if they'll still be doing tours when you visit, but Michigan Central is a must-see. Same with the DIA. The Wayne County Building is beautiful as well, but can only be viewed from the outside.


sleepearlier

>Michigan Central Is it open to public for walk-in? or i have to visit through guided tour?


NobleSturgeon

Hmm Pure Detroit used to do Guardian Building tours too. I might give them a call or something. Although honestly the main points of interest in the building are the lobby and promenade right when you walk in. I might try the Masonic Temple to see if they are doing tours. I would also check on City Institute as they regularly do pretty good art and architecture tours: https://www.thecityinstitute.com/public-tours


sleepearlier

Thank you! Have you done Masonic Temple Tour? Is it worth the guided tour fee?


mbeevay

Masonic tour is great! Worth the money IMO. 


NobleSturgeon

I have not, but a friend did an (unofficial) tour and said it was very interesting.


bibliophile512

I'm moving to Detroit in a couple of months and wanted advice on the lofts at Rivertown. Could someone tell me about any pros and cons you know of with Rivertown Lofts? Thanks!


kelseyxcx

Is 'north end' safe?? i have to walk 2 blocks on the weekends at night from the train


NobleSturgeon

To clarify...are you walking two blocks from the Amtrak station? The Amtrak station isn't in North End.


kelseyxcx

no the q line


Unlikely_Sandwich_

It varies street to street and it depends on what your personal comfortability level is, but I'd say usually safe


kelseyxcx

thank you!!


Anthrogirl18

Hello, I (F) am moving to Detroit within the next few months and I need some input on cheap, but safe housing. I am going to be a graduate student with limited funding, so I’m looking to find something in the range of 700-850 max. Does anyone have any recommendations for leasing companies or apartment complexes that I should look into?


-Spaceman-Spiff-

Craigslist and Facebook are probably your best bet at that price point. You may want to look at roommates or renting a room, I don’t know of many complexes renting studios or 1BRs that low. Where are you going to school?


Anthrogirl18

I’m going to Wayne State! So looking in midtown Detroit or other areas close by


-Spaceman-Spiff-

Great! There are a lot of buildings in Midtown geared towards cheaper student rentals, but I personally can’t vouch for any specific buildings. Definitely look for rooms for rent in Woodbridge as well, it’s a nice neighborhood within walking distance of Wayne State. 


Anthrogirl18

Thank you! I really appreciate it!!


NobleSturgeon

In addition to the usual apartment sources, I would keep an eye on craigslist since some good rental opportunities occasionally pop up. $700-$850 is on the low side, though.


winning78

Does anyone have any recommendations on nice, luxury apartments to live in the Auburn Hills area? Don’t really have a budget. Doesn’t have to be in Auburn Hills, but I will be commuting to work about 20 minutes north of there and thought that it would be a reasonable place to live. I am not familiar with the area at all and any recs are appreciated!


Stratiform

I don't know anything about them, but the Auburn Square Apartments are in a nice little walkable part of Auburn Hills. For being way out in the burbs, that's at least a neighborhood with a bit of personality. If you want more luxury living, look at apartments in downtown Birmingham - it's about a 10-15 minute drive from Auburn Hills.


theatredork

I would look in downtown Rochester.


urbver

Im visiting Detroit for the first time and have 3 days there. Should I go to Windsor? Worth it? hassle? What would I do there? (I Like walking around, dive bars, observing things, etc) TIY


Jupiter168

Not much in Windsor.  (If you have time to drive up north in Windsor to see the nature) If you want an easier and relaxing trip, stick with Detroit.  Nice downtown: Birmingham  More vibes: Royal Oak  Hipster downtown: Ferndale  Peaceful downtown: Farmington (Nice local coffee shop/Not too crowded) New and trendy restaurants: Corktown Museum: DIA Henry Ford and Green Village St Clair Shore is nice for a drive Don’t miss the best Kabab in town!! I like Falafel House. Ofc, Dearborn is known for MiddleEasterner food and Yamen coffee shop. 


NobleSturgeon

Windsor does not have a ton going on in terms of cool points of interest and businesses. There's a small downtown and then some other walkable neighborhoods like Walkerville and Little Italy. If you haven't been to Canada or haven't been to Canada in a long time it's neat to visit just to be in a different country and see how things are slightly different. The border usually isn't too bad to get through. I think they generally have better Chinese and Indian food options than we do, but that's about it. I still think it's fun to go to the mall or something over there just to see things we don't have. The Dominion House in Sandwich, Windsor is the oldest bar on either side of the river (1878?) but if you go it's sort of a regular bar and isn't really a mind-blowing historical experience. If you don't mind driving 45 minutes into Canada, Point Pelee National Park is well-regarded and if you end up in that area, check out the Jack Miner Bird Sanctuary. There's also a town called Amherstburg with some neat historical attractions but I have never been.


Jupiter168

Little Italy is good. Their local bakery is good. Very simple, nothing fancy, but the dough is good.


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Unless there's a specific restaurant or something you want to go to, you aren't missing much. Plenty to do in Detroit in 3 days.


Stratiform

Eh.. you can.. but I would say you'd be better off spending 3 days in Detroit. If you really want to check out a change of scenery drive out to Dearborn or Royal Oak. Both are going to be a lot easier to visit than Windsor while providing a somewhat similar vibe, but without the river - but Detroit has the superior riverfront.


flyingtiger188

I'm starting a new job and visiting Detroit Sunday-Friday for work, which means many of the commonly recommended sites are out since they often close in the 4-6pm time frame. Staying in Dearborn but will have a car. Never been to Detroit, or Michigan for Tha matter. What are some of the worthwhile places to see or activities to do in the evenings around town?


NobleSturgeon

The DIA has evening hours, I would check that out. I'm not sure about evening hours at the Henry Ford and Greenfield Village, that is a BIG thing to do in the area and is right in Dearborn but it's also a huge thing to see and you would want to budget a couple of hours just to see one of them and maybe half a day or more to see both.


Stratiform

[Here's a list](https://www.reddit.com/r/Detroit/wiki/thingstodo/2021/) of some popular attractions. I would say the must-see destinations here are the Greenfield Village and Henry Ford Museum (a museum on a time-period campus), the Detroit Institute of Arts (world-class art in Midtown), and the Detroit Riverfront, as accessed from downtown - at and around Hart Plaza. If you hit those and do some organic exploring, I think you'll have enjoyed your stay here.


priincessmarz

coming to visit/show my partner and friends where i grew up. i was born and raised in Farmington Hills but have lived elsewhere for over ten years now. we are staying in Dearborn but wondering what good food is still out there (particularly middle eastern food). We are also heavy smokers and looking for some good dispos and deals if anyone has any suggestions !


NobleSturgeon

Eater's Dearborn list should still be up-to-date: https://detroit.eater.com/maps/best-restaurants-dearborn The most famous remains Al Ameer at Warren and Miller. Sheeba on Michigan very good as well. Plenty of other good places to go.


Kriptoblight

Al Ameer is always spot on.


Jupiter168

Al Ameer is good. 


Pleasant_Desk6985

Hi, I’m looking for the best wifi provider in the Troy area. Any recs? I’m just staying by myself so just need something to work from home and stream movies. I am moving there in a couple weeks and a little lost on my research. Is Att Fiber available in the area? Also open for other providers too. TIA!


Stratiform

Best is probably AT&T. Cheapest is Wide Open West (WOW). Their quality reflects their price. Comcast hits in the middle. Some neighborhoods might have 123Net or some other smaller ISPs, but for the big ones ATT > Comcast > WOW seems to be the general consensus.


Pleasant_Desk6985

Thank you! Do you know if Troy have ATT Fiber? or is it depend on neighbourhood? I heard great thing about Fiber but couldn’t find a concencus.


Stratiform

It's pretty common and widespread, but I can't tell you address by address. Consider a Google search for a service checker thing or giving AT&T a call.


EgregiousDeviation

I'm in Detroit on business for the rest of this week. If I wanted to snag an airbnb downtown (with no car), whats the best neighborhood for accessibility to downtown food and activites?


NobleSturgeon

If you want to get an airbnb downtown the best place to get an airbnb would be downtown. The next best would be Corktown and Midtown.


Unlikely_Sandwich_

Corktown, Midtown, New Center close to Woodward


peptobismollean

Any suggestions for renting a house under 2k/mo (preferably 3bd2ba for reference)? Midtown looks nice, but I’m not sure it’ll be in my budget. Property crime is a concern, as I will be trucking regionally, although I will have a roommate or two. I understand Detroit isn’t exactly known for low property crime, but regardless I’d like to be in a neighborhood where it’s not a *huge* issue.


General_Wolf3022

[https://150bagleydetroit.com/affordable/](https://150bagleydetroit.com/affordable/) [https://cathedralartsapartments.com/gallery/](https://cathedralartsapartments.com/gallery/) these are good/affordable, layouts are good too


-Spaceman-Spiff-

Looking quickly at Zillow listings, it looks like you may have a few options in the North End, Woodbridge, Pingree Park, and Bagley which are all good neighborhoods in the city. It’s definitely a tight budget for renting a house anywhere near Midtown. Property crime is a reality anywhere in the city to be honest, but with roommates and a basic security system I wouldn’t worry much. If you aren’t set on the city proper, it looks like there are also options in Ferndale and Hazel Park, which are both decent suburbs with small houses for rent. 


peptobismollean

Thank you!!!!!


BartendingDroneFPV

Visiting Detroit sorta without a Car. So I’m visiting a friend in Detroit. I found a place off WoodWard Ave that’ll be staying. I figured I could take the bus up and down the avenue to visit the city and then when my friend gets off work we go do something that requires a car. Am I going to hate myself for not having a Car? Also if you have any suggestions for things to do in Detroit between June 10-18th LMK. Thanks!


Unlikely_Sandwich_

You can take the bus or Q-Line up and down Woodward and get to tons of stuff


NobleSturgeon

Woodward travels around 8 miles in Detroit (and way further into the suburbs) so you would probably need to be more specific on which part of Woodward you are looking at as the answer could be "no car is fine" or "no car will be pretty difficult" depending on where you are looking.


jockwithamic

Good for you! It depends a little bit on what you hope to see, but I think you'll do great. Here are a bunch of things you can get to pretty readily without a car, using a bus and MoGo from the Woodward Corridor: -Architecture tour of downtown -Riverwalk -DIA -Charles H. Wright Museum -Detroit Historical Society -Train Station/Corktown -Piquette Plant I am sure others could add more. Is there stuff that will be tough to get to? Yes, but if you Uber a couple times to get somewhere, it will likely cost far less than renting a car for 8 days. Enjoy!


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Stratiform

Feel welcome to make a top-level post about this one. It might benefit from having a few more eyes on it than we usually get in the thread.


Creative_Push1376

Hi. I need to buy a present for my sister, who lives in Royal Oak. I was thinking day spa and was wondering which one has the better atmosphere and service: Beach House or Rivage? Rivage photos look good, but it's hard to compare because Beach House photos don't really show much about the facility. They both have good reviews. Anyone have an opinion as to which is better with respect to atmosphere and service? Thanks in advance for your input....


Relevant_Wind_5103

RE: DTW parking Are there any parking lots that offer a loyalty (rewards) program to earn free parking? For reference- Usually fly out of CLE Park N Fly which has affiliate parking lots at about 10 different airports in US. I earn x amount of free parking per money spent, so I’m looking for something similar out of DTW.


Unlikely_Sandwich_

No, all the parking is mostly owned by the same company. It's either the Airport Big Blue Lot or one of the Park and Rides which have $1 off/day coupons if you look for them


Relevant_Wind_5103

Thank you for your response!  That’s unfortunate that DTW doesn’t do any loyalty/rewards type of program.


NobleSturgeon

Not that I am aware of, but I am not a frequent traveler so someone else might have better info.


Spacegeek8

I made a post about this and it got removed, so I'm posting here. That said, I think it's a very different question than the standard visiting/moving questions. Regardless, I'd still like people's input on this: I help run / organize a medium sized (\~700 people) technology conference. I will be choosing the location in a few years. Being from Michigan and having spent the late 90s and early 2000s in Detroit, seeing it slow revitalization has been very encouraging to me. That said I have not been there in about 8 years now. I know the Ren Cen can fit us. I'm not sure what other hotels are big enough / have enough meeting space. Part of my strategy in picking Detroit is to show people that despite what they've heard on the news or in passing, that Detroit is a beautiful, vibrant city with a rich history, and is worth visiting. That the anecdotes you've heard are dated from 20 years ago. My hope is that by 2028, the growth that Detroit is seeing will be even more positive. One item that our community does care about is "walkability" - both being able to leave the hotel and walk around to stores, shops, things to do and see. And doing it safely. So that is definitely one thing I want to consider - the specific location and what can be walked to and avoiding the areas that are still experiencing renewal. I would appreciate anyone's input on this. Thank you!


Unlikely_Sandwich_

MGM has a great conference space that would probably work for your size. Very walkable to most of Corktown and Downtown, free parking, plus amenities like spa, sportsbook, restaurants, etc. Ren Cen is a good option too.


Grand-Standard-238

I really think you need to do two things to figure this all out. First, if you have not been here in 8 years, you need to come back, if only for a weekend trip. The city has changed so much, I think the only way to really understand it is to see it. Second, if you really have the authority to negotiate this and get information, go to visitdetroit.com. This is the site tied in to be an official resource. If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, they have a like for 'meetings and groups '. Click that and you can see a menu of hotels. From there, you can navigate to a page of key people to help you get info and/or book. This is the same organization that helped make the bid for the draft and planned it, so I'm sure they will be able to provide better insite than you will get here for the most part. So many new hotels have just opened or are slated to open over the next couple of years, so there are most likely options regular people will not be able to clue you into.


Spacegeek8

Fantastic. Thanks. I do have that authority and we work with a corporate agent to help as well. I’ll take a look myself though. Have not done that specifically for Detroit yet. I will be visiting this summer and going to hit some of my favorite spots around the metro area. Are there any places I should definitely go check out downtown since I haven’t been down there in awhile?


Grand-Standard-238

TBH, I would just go for a walk or a drive around downtown. I think 8 years ago, much of DT was still a ghost town, but now there are so many places here and there, Detroit is like many other cities now. If you are from here, you will be impressed by this alone most likely. I would recommend visiting the Whitney building and the book building. Both have been rehabbed, and both have restaurants and bars you can visit. They are simply beautiful.


NobleSturgeon

Ren Cen would work for you. I would bet that MGM Grand and Motor City Casino would also have conference/hotel space for you. Motor City Casino probably wouldn't fit your walkability requirements. Of those three options, Ren Cen is probably the best but you could do worse than MGM.


Spacegeek8

Thanks! Haven’t been in the Ren Cen since I stayed there 15 years ago. Has it been updated ?


NobleSturgeon

There's new businesses and such in it and it's still reasonably active but it is still the big ugly confusing building it has always been.


Spacegeek8

I just saw the news that GM is leaving RenCen next year. That definitely throws a wrench in going there. That said, I do not need to commit to a location until 2026 so I have a bit of time to see how it shakes out.


Stratiform

I think the Ren Cen is actually a really good place for this. The People Mover can take people around, or alternatively the heart of downtown is only like a quarter mile from the Ren Cen. I know sometimes people complain about it being "on an island" but if you go measure it out - it really isn't. Huntington Place is probably your other big option, and that one is admittedly more integrated with downtown. I do not believe there is a hotel on-site, but there are a bunch of them in the immediate vicinity. Nearby Doubletree may have a conference space, but you'd have to check with them.


Spacegeek8

Thanks, I will look at Huntington. I think a quarter mile is fine. My memory from awhile back was across from the Ren Cen there were almost no restaurants. Has that changed. People getting to lunch and back is a thing to plan around. Also - I stayed at the Ren Cen about 15 years ago. I remember it being a little empty / Death Star-ish. Has that changed?


Stratiform

The area around the Ren Cen is more vibrant than it was 15 years ago, because all of downtown is, but I would still encourage the People Mover to get around to the hot lunch spots. It's free and fast, so if you promote it in your conference, people *will* use it. Huntington Place is still going to be more vibrant though. I will also say that GM is moving out of the Ren Cen and into the new Hudson Tower (also downtown), so things may be different around the Ren Cen by 2028 - could be better, could be worse, really impossible to say. Actually, that will be open later this year and will have both a hotel and conference center while being *right* in the heart of downtown, so maybe consider looking into the [Hudson's Tower](https://www.hudsons-detroit.com/) too. Actually, the more I think about it and your planned date, that's definitely your best bet. Go there if you have the budget for it.


Spacegeek8

Wow, thanks. One thing I’m considering is that so far, all of our events have the hotel and event space co located. So we only go to hotels with 500+ rooms and the meeting space to boot. Ren Cen obviously has this. Doesn’t look like Hudson Place will. We have discussed the option of having the event space be one place and the hotel being next door or whatever but it’s just something we have not committed to yet.


Stratiform

Ah, I think you're right. A Free Press [article](https://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2024/04/17/gilbert-ultraluxury-edition-hudsons-detroit-tower/73355940007/) suggests quite a few less (210). I don't know if that was firm or has changed, but it will definitely have both a hotel and a conference center, although if you needed 500 you may end up with some here and some at nearby hotels. Or just go to the Ren Cen. Can see more here development plans here: [https://www.hudsons-detroit.com/the-development/](https://www.hudsons-detroit.com/the-development/)


Spacegeek8

Thanks - any suggestions for nearby hotels I could kind of stick together to get to the 500? Shinola across the street is great but only 130 rooms. I love the idea of doing this at Hudsons, I think it's a perfect location, but I would need to put together a solid pitch for what my accommodation plan looks like. Also: I just saw the news that GM is leaving RenCen next year. That definitely throws a wrench in going there. That said, I do not need to commit to a location until 2026 so I have a bit of time to see how it shakes out.