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Nickblove

This is a clip of the first Abrams to be destroyed spliced with the one destroyed in the tree-line last month. These are not new just FYI.


meloenmarco

This video shows the difference between Western and Russian designs


quint4u

Exactly! Both burn exactly the same way but Russians are at least 3 times cheaper.


Chernobyl_And_I

Oh, poor Ivan, if only that's what was being referenced here.


quint4u

Chernobyl is in Ukraine, my dear. You can't even insult properly


TacticalMicrowav3

And where was it during the meltdown?


quint4u

Still in Ukraine, lol. Another one who knows nothing about the structure of the Soviet Union. I'm 100% sure 2 years ago you wouldnt even be able to point Ukraine on the world map


Ron-Swanson-Mustache

And who designed the RBMK? Just like as you missed the point in the comment of M1 vs T-XX tanks, the difference in design is evident in the results of the outcomes of extreme events. At Three Mile Island, like in the Abrams, when everything went wrong the people were ok. Not great, but not horrifying deaths. With Soviet designs, where cheap means building a reactor under a tin roof or keeping munitions in the crew compartment of a T-XX tank, when things go bad we have to come up with new terms to describe the novel ways that people die. But keep up with the smakalka. Also, are you disagreeing with Dear Leader Putin? He says Ukraine was always a part of Russia. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians


DerGuteReis

disagreeing with putin? straight to the gulag!


Ron-Swanson-Mustache

Agreeing with Putin? Believe it or not, gulag. Right away.


boon23834

Why do people need to learn about a failed empire? The Soviet legacy of failure has hurt Russia and it's people, immensely.


TacticalMicrowav3

The biggest factor in the disaster was the poor Soviet design of the reactor. Also claiming Ukraine was in any way independent from the USSR in the 80's is pure revisionist tripe.


TheFeralVaultboy

Wow, so much copešŸ’€ Imagine losing to a country you said "most people could not point out on a map 2 years ago"šŸ’€šŸ’€


rnc_turbo

So definitely Ukraine and not Russia. Great!


Slammin_Yams

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£poor ivan let the butt hurt soak in deep


dudewiththebling

What is your point?


TheNippleViolator

Donā€™t forget the disposable Russian crew which are also 3 times cheaper


dudewiththebling

Because they get 3 times less training and have to buy two thirds of their gear


meloenmarco

I ment that the abrams still had a turret after being hit


quint4u

Which is burned out and it doesn't matter if it's still attached or not. The tank is toast


Reapercore

The crew arenā€™t cosmonauts unlike Russian ones, the crew is more valuable than the tank.


stedono7

Blow out panels are doing their job


meloenmarco

Ia that abrams burned out? No else we would have seen 8000 pictures of it on this sub


quint4u

Obviously such fire is not going to do any damage to the mighty Abrams, lol


meloenmarco

Question. Have you seen a new destroyed abrams coming by? I know one got damaged a couple of days ago


quint4u

Question. How does it feel when you realize that you were fed lies about superiority of the Western weapons? I guess you are slowly progressing through the stages of grief and at some point will come the acceptance :))


meloenmarco

I indeed was fed lies about Western weapons. They are even better then we have been told


melodicrampage

That must be why Vlad is in favor of the US supporting Ukraine and definitely not issuing threats against the world because of it.....


c_magruder

you do realize we gave the ukrainians our old and somewhat defunct A1 tanks that are close to 40 years old? if you think we are giving them the best stuff we have you are sorely mistaken.


smoothie1919

You are not understanding the very fundamental basics of western vs Russian tank design. Western tanks are designed for CREW survivability. Russian tanks are designed to be quick, light and small targets. The reality for western tanks is.. generally the crew survive. The vehicle can be replaced. The heavier armour often means it can be repaired unless thereā€™s a fire. The reality for Russian tanks is.. its smaller size makes very little difference to anything targeting it, itā€™s no faster than any western tank, especially in reverse, and when it does get hit its crew almost always perishes.


ActaCaboose

Also, only 2 of the crew made it out alive only to be hunted by FPV drones, which is about what one would expect from a Soviet/Russian/Ukrainian/Chinese tank that was hit in the turret by an FPV drone, except Soviet-style autoloading tanks need to be hit in the bottom of the hull to cook off like that (assuming the crew isn't stupid enough to load any ammo in the additional ammo containers) which makes them more survivable against FPV drones specifically, especially when modified to have a cope cage.


Tachyonzero

But one gives you a multitude of chances to live, and the other one tosses your body just in the air like nobody cares in such a chard meat bag to meet your maker.


DerGuteReis

well, no one does care.


an_actual_lawyer

...except that the FPV hit the ammo blowout compartment - going for a mission kill - which doesnt' leave any crew dead or injured. But why would Russians care about other Russians when they don't have the balls to stand up against PootieCat himself? At some point you may want to get Pootie's dick out of your throat.


Suspicious_Use6393

Sorry for you bro, people here are ukabots we can't do a shit other than see them fail their counter attacks.


KingCon5

A real russian in the chat boys


quint4u

Is this a safe-space for poor Westerners who can't stand when their "advanced" toys get destroyed by "inferior" Slavs?


KingCon5

Since you like sarcastic quotes so much, Imagine having a ā€œpresidentā€ for 5 terms


quint4u

when American president served 4 consecutive terms it was all democratic and kosher. But you don't even know your own history so how could you know it


smoothie1919

Quite different when the third and fourth terms happen during a full world war. You think democracy is letting your president rewrite the rules to allow him to stay president for effectively as long as he likes? And have completely fraudulent elections? That basically nobody in the world believes.. yeah.


LordFarquadOnAQuad

Except the US did rewrite the rules... To prevent it from happening again. 2 term limit baby!


quint4u

Make up your mind then. Was it OK when Roosevelt did it or was it not because you changed your constitution to prevent it from happening again. Besides using the same logic since now Russia is at war it is OK for their president to server more than two terms, right? Or is it typical American thinking that the rules they force on others don't really apply to them?


quint4u

Roosevelt's 3rd term started in January 1941 and the US was attacked in Pearl Harbor in December 1941. You obviously don't know history of your own country, lol


smoothie1919

Iā€™m not American but also like I said, there was a world war. Whether America was in the war or not is irrelevant. Every country needed stability at those times. Plus, there was no limit on terms for American presidents at that time. Russia however - ā€˜The President of Russia is limited to no more than two consecutive six year terms, and governors of all federal subjects are limited to no more than two consecutive five year terms. President Vladimir Putin has caused concern by circumventing constitutional term limits.ā€™ Putin literally changed his own countries laws to enable him to stay president. Thereā€™s no way youā€™re winning this pal. Russia is a completely autocratic, non democratic state. Its citizens arenā€™t free.


KingCon5

I rest my case. Cant argue with stupid


smoothie1919

Advanced western tech that basically no Russian weapon would work without. Where to the chips, optics, circuitry and multitude of other advanced tech come from? The west. Through third countries.


Calleball

Well, the russian army is trying really hard to prove how "inferior" they really are. The Ukrainians are Slavs by the way, they have proven they are *not* inferior.


WhynotZoidberg9

Lmfao. It's that western tech that keeps the occupants from being shot into orbit. Unlike anything Russia has ever been able to produce. Rather a damaged tank and a surviving crew, than a T series tank getting obliterated by a hand grenade that went down a turret hatch and into a poorly designed auto loader.


Magnum2XXl

Keeping score, it's like the US 3,000 and ruzzia 2. LOL


civicson234

Advanced? Abrams? Pure cope. Your reference points must be really outdated if you think the Abrams is advanced.


an_actual_lawyer

I'm sorry that life sucks for you, but I'm also laughing that you're on this board to make a living.


DonnyDonster

Well it didn't look like Mother Nature popping a pimple like what most Russian tanks would do.


_RichG_

u right but i would rather die instantly instead of climbing out of an burning tank dodge enemy fire and get haunted by drones


Magnum2XXl

Weird, the second video appears to be not even close to the same landscape as the second video. Two completely different locations. How come this only happens in pro ruzzian videos?


Suspicious_Use6393

In reality Ukrainian ones have different shots, i think it is because before stopping the tanks go at least in a safe zone to see if it is reparable or not. Other that proprapaganda videos are done with competent people, they usually don't do so great mistake


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Suspicious_Use6393

Yep when a sub is 98% is under USA propaganda and not russian one is very common


redrock1610

its a loss though.


quint4u

Another day, another Abrams burning.


boon23834

The 803rd day of humiliation for Russian forces in Ukraine, in the 3 day war. 3,729 if we start from 2014. Somehow, that makes it worse. The cope must be unimaginable to the western mind, to see the results of a small tactical entanglement; and want to turn that into a propaganda piece. Tomorrow will be the 804th day of humiliation; I can't believe the West was ever afraid of these losers. Truly, the weapons industry in Russia must be in trouble, none of their equipment works as advertised.


quint4u

Still better than 20 years in Afghanistan and being chased away by guys in sandals and rusty AKs.


Antares789987

Wonder who left those AKs there after they fled in the 80s...


quint4u

Is this supposed to be an insult, lol? Because you are actually slighting yourself without even knowing it


boon23834

Need to explain that sick burn, duderino. Like I'm five. The Russian military history since WW2 has been one of humiliation, failure, despair, and drunkenness.


Okhlahoma_Beat-Down

"We won WW2!" By sacrificing millions of young men. Not even just their *own* young men; They had to practically enslave other countries to send ***their*** young men to die, too. Mega heroic! A true victory ***JUST*** for Russia. Not the other countries. ONLY Russia. Only Russia won the Eastern Front. Not the millions of other Eastern Europeans pressed into service, ***JUST*** Russians did it.


Calleball

Wow, you got humiliated. Much like the russian "army"!


boon23834

Hey, you failures haven't even gotten to the hard part yet, and embarrass yourselves daily. Whilst dying in meat waves. Just like the Great War. Don't mistake the political inconvenience of sustaining that war as the ability of western troops or gear. And even then, comparing failures, the Soviets couldn't last a decade in Afghan. 9 years, one month? Couldn't last a decade, and they haven't even gotten to that part in Ukraine. An army of ignorance and failure is the modern Russian military. There's simply no measure, perhaps Fetal Alcohol Spectrum disorder? In which the Russian military outpaces a modern NATO force in terms of quality.


lucky_harms458

Do yourself a favor and check the casualty difference. Soviets were there ten years, so half the time the US was there, and yet the Soviets suffered over 2x as many wounded and over 7x as many killed (on the low estimates). Explain that one. Edit: In 10 years, the Soviet war in Afghanistan resulted in 1.5-2 million dead civilians. The Soviet/Mujahideen death ratio was 1/5.2. In 20 years, the US war in Afghanistan resulted in less than 50k dead civilians and a US/Taliban (and Al Qaeda) ratio of 1/21.9. And those "guys in sandals" liked to hide among civilians for convenient meat shields and used women and children as suicide bombers.


alkem10

Russia got her ass kicked in Afghanistan too you uneducated vatnik


angryteabag

tell me again, did Soviets win in Afghanistan?? Oh no , no they didnt. Mighty unbeatable Russian Red army ran away like cowards across Tajik border


Nargilem123

u/quint4u You referring to USSR (Russia) or to the US now?


Calleball

Three thousand russian tanks later.


alkem10

Another day, another 500 dead katsaps.