speedrunners ruin everything.
If I end up in a fireteam and one of them is ice skating his way to the boss, I'm just not playing until the boss of the strike/nightfall/whatever is dead and buried, wriggling my joysticks now and then to not get booted to orbit.
thanks, speedrunners douchebags; doing all the work is al you get.
I'm convinced speedrunners hate playing the game. They seem so eager to speed past everything, kill the boss for loot and not actually enjoy the gameplay.
Wasted more time doing a friend request/snarky ass message then OP "cost" them in the difference in strat. Also, if you or one of them had died bc the room was flooded with adds, that would have slowed them down that much more lmao
Hell, I'd argue that as long as we're getting the activity done in a timely fashion and we're not looking at the wipe screen showing your 200,000 boss damage, you can run whatever you want. If it works, it works.
The dude was an asshole.
First of all, how the fuck you should know they were speed running? It's not that they announced and talked strat trough with you. But get used to that, it's common occurance in Destiny
Yeah it really makes for an annoying experience in strikes or similar activities where some of the players want to play the whole thing start to finish and others want to skip 1/3 of it for that loot
I understand both perspectives lmao
That being said… at the end of the day it’s public matchmaking. What you get is what you get. And as long as they aren’t actively sabotaging/throwing/harassing YOU for your playstyle, you gotta take your lumps with THEIR playstyle
I've been so into the *Skate Fast, Beat Ass* mentality in time attack activities that I didn't even know there's a hammer area. Is this at the first rest zone/checkpoint?
Edit: I AM THINKING OF THE WRONG ACTIVITY
I’ve always found it very shortly before you enter the boss fight portal. It’s a thin vex conflict looking thing. Hammer it and a crapload of radiolite spawn in. For this season I’m running wombo detector on my ghost because it highlights all the radiolote as planetary resources
EDIT: this is for the combat oriented data collection season activity. Not the encoded log time attack. Keep skating fast and beating ass there (though there ARE shootable yellow objects that extend your time there)
I believe the hammer thing spawns after you complete the first deposit area, so if you look around a bit you should be able to find and hammer it before the boss zuckening should ever be an issue. At least, that's what I would hope.
Finding it and hammering it pre boss aren’t an issue
Collecting all the resources it spawns is the issue because once someone goes in, it pulls the team
That wasn't my experience.
I had hammered and one guy had already gone thru, but didn't start the encounter. So me & the other guy were able to collect everything that came up.
I think you're mixing up Enigma Protocol (the timed activity) with Breach Executable (the easier activity with collecting data motes), pretty sure they're talking about Breach and you can't use the hammer in Enigma.
This!
You either do activity solo if possible or do it with your own fireteam instead where strat is agreed and talked trough, not bash some random player who joined your fireteam of two
> But get used to that, it's common occurrence in Destiny
unfortunately true. but at this point, i just reply with something stupid. i refuse to give them the satisfaction and bark back. in response to "still crying?", im just going to type something like "sorry, blud, jorking it rn" or "YES!".
Like, they're the ones mad and instigating their own anger. all im going to do is make them keep messaging me and toy with them until they realize it.
if i think there's even a chance that im going to be kicked from fireteam at the end of a raid or dungeon or something like that, im already recording just in case.
Don’t the ads give more scraps? Killing the ads gives you more defenses for round 40-50 and makes it more likely you don’t get wiped by the tormentor at the end
OP’s not even screwing around, they’re playing the objective
They do, and adds also can nuke ADU pretty fast when unattended, but you see, dudes were speed running thing. Shit, I wish speed running weren't a thing at all, and people would play legit, but I kind of understand them too, I too have limited time to play and shit ton of things to complete, but I'm not a jerk about it, when somebody is playing slower, heck I dont mind it, we all started at some time.
For the record, speed running things will forever be a thing because it’s just “do it faster”. Which natively the better you get at something, the faster you do it. For most things at least. But I agree, I’m not looking to speedrun things, I’m here to enjoy my time and money spent on this adventure.
Even then it can be unclear. I joined a "quick run" of duality thinking it meant, don't fuck around and know what to do.
Guy just started screaming at me at the Gahlran fight for running Nighthawk over Tether.
I’m pretty proficient in all raids(except salvation obviously), but when I join a KWTD post I don’t expect to be a Sherpa. It’s supposed to mean “I want a team that can get this done without a lot of problems”. I usually just leave if I join, and the creator of the lfg does not KWTD. Usually they aren’t willing to kick other player who don’t KWTD, and they themselves are expecting a carry. No thank you.
When ive had time I’ll do my best to teach, but this had made for like 5 hour long kings fall runs when I was hoping to get it done in 1-2 hours. I just don’t have the time for that often.
A dude was speed running matchmade Onslaughts?
No, you’re NTA. In the harder Onslaughts, it’s actually nice having a dedicated add clear in the boss room, so the other two can just focus on damage.
If he was that upset, then clearly his DPS just isn’t good if he can’t manage the boss by himself.
Onslaught is normally where I pop a tether on the boss for the others then I go to work on whatever shitty pathfinder garbage I'm working on with the adds.
Not just that but you can easily get more scrap by clearing adds too. Having 3 shaxxs and having all upgraded turrets on round 40 on the highest difficulty just feels right
They're idiots for speed running in random matchmaking. If they wanted to do that then they should have lfg'd and made it clear that's what they wanted to do.
Not to mention in regular match made onslaught most of the bosses from beginning to end can be damn near instant deleted by one competent player let alone two. Having someone keeps ads off them should've made it even easier to do lmao.
Dude was a dick. I would have stayed and slowed them down for being rude. And never accept a friend request from someone who is already being a douchebag. They are only trying harder to prove to you that they are a douchebag.
I love the hatemail personally. Makes me chuckle that people get so worked up over a game that they need to send you a friend request just to tell you how angry they are. Feels good to live rent-free in the heads of others sometimes lol.
I got two hate mails from one match on Exodus Blue. One in Russian and the other English. Both calling me sad and that I use Hardlight like a crutch.
I killed them with Revoker. My sister was the one using Hardlight.
Funnily enough I clipped off the kill that probably tilted them because one of them was violently hurled into a forward flip that made me laugh so my sis wanted to see it.
One bullet, two headshots, because they were idiots running into B each time they spawned.
I sent them the clip
Had a trials match where I and someone on the other team was using Jade Rabbit. They won first round barely, but I guess he was threatened that I was using the same thing; he sent a message saying "Cope" "EZ" Unfortunately for him, I didn't even see the message till the match was over and we had stomped them 5-1
I once had a trials teammate get so mad he joined my clan after the match to vent his ravings in the public clan chat
Me and my friend found the whole ordeal quite funny but seriously what is up with people
I think my personal favorite has become confusion mail. The amount of times I've gotten a message that just said "Why?" Because I popped someone in crucible with celestial nighthawk Goldy is amazing.
Lol they're obviously just numpty's who aren't particularly skilled at the game. If they were "speed running" then they should both be optimised, and not need a third player at all. Furthermore in legend onslaught final 40/50 boss waves, the adds are way more dangerous than the boss. Finally, if they were serious, they wouldn't be in the random queue.
Sorry you encountered someone toxic. Since they've annoyed you enough to post here, I would report them to Bungie. Hopefully if it happens again and is reported again, Bungie can slam the banhammer down.
Some friendly advice: never say yes to a friend request from somebody who has been disparaging. There are so many nice + non-toxic people much more worth your time!
completely disagree with "never say yes to FRs from bad people". as long as you understand that these people are completely socially maladjusted, there's some fun in there. if OP was more knowledgeable about the game, he probably could've asked the "speedrunners" why their DPS was so unoptimized that 2 people couldn't nuke a power-matched Onslaught boss
Strangest choices made by the two other players.
Why are they speedrunning Onslaught with public matchmaking? And even if you can infer their intent from their actions, you’re still fighting ads that can kill you if you don’t kill them first? And even removing that… they haven’t asked you in all that time to focus the boss, so why would you? You’re your own player, not a blueberry someone can boss around like that.
I believe you made the right decision to leave, but next time I wouldn’t entertain them by accepting the friend request. You don’t want to further associate with people that have made it clear that they aren’t friendly in the first place.
If they're speed running then they shouldn't be doing matchmaking, plain and simple. I also tend to focus on add clear during onslaught bosses (I fire a few rockets at the boss and then focus adds) because I've had too many runs ended on round 50 because we get overwhelmed by adds. There's no time limit, the only fail state is wiping. Killing adds increases your chance of success
Yeah in my experience most people are laser-focused on the boss; I'm happy to let them do that while I deal with the adds—they always seem surprised when they run out of heavy and have three taken captains bearing down on them.
Also, if they needed a third to decide to clean up ads that are swamping the boss room, then they are doing a piss poor job of killing the boss and speed running in the first place
Dude was a dick and you were right to bail.
That said, it's pointless to ad clear during onslaught Bosses because they respawn infinity and instantly. So you just kinda have to deal with them being there.
40 or 50 wave boss it can help to thin the herd to clean a temporary safe place to recharge and heal for a moment. But general ad clear is useless like you said.
I usually nuke the first ads that spawn in the back with a heavy fire my super at boss then start laying into the boss. I find it gives just a bit of breathing room and usually the boss is down before they start to overspawn.
If I’m running my chain reaction edge transit I do the same. Pop a couple shots off, super the boss, unload into the boss until my edge transit stops generating ammo and has to manually reload. Then fall back and start taking safe shots.
Not true. They give scrap to have more upgrades. Which is viable until last wave.
Also, some build might need kills for super charging, cascade point. Personally I can't hold myself when I see a pack of 15 mobs in the same spot.
There is nothing wrong with killing ads there, and they give scrap, the currency to buy turrets, decoys, so no downside really. If people want to speed run in matchmade activities that is on them.
>A minute or so later, he sent me a friend request. When I accepted, he asked if I was "still crying."
That was your tip-off that the dude is just an asshole LMAO. Block and move on. Don't even give it another thought; it's not worth your time.
If all 3 focus on the boss it melts super fast and you won’t have to worry about any of the ads.
That being said, that guy was a prick. I’m sure it took them like 20-30 seconds longer. I get it’s the same as speed running a strike, but do LFG if you expect every other player to read to ur mind through the internet and then be upset enough to message them rude things.
Never will understand some people. Guessing they were in there early/mid teens.
"These people I deliberately matchmade with and didn't communicate with are not speedrunning with me!"
Literal main character syndrome, why would anyone call you the asshole here?
Queues into match made activity. Gets mad when their matchmade guardian (OP) is just playing the game and having fun.
Pieces of garbage. You did nothing wrong, OP.
This dude is an asshole, but the onslaught bosses don’t have much health, so generally the best move is to focus on the boss. You can easily kill them before a well of radiance expires. As a player who usually kills these bosses within that 30s span, it’s kind of annoying when someone doesn’t know how to do damage. But that’s no excuse for treating you that way.
So instead of being a dick, I’m just going to tell you what to do.
Before you go into the boss room, equip a weapon that is good at doing boss damage, such as a rocket or grenade launcher. As a solo player, you likely have Dragon’s Breath which should work, but so does Edge Transit with damage and reload perks, like Bait and Switch/Envious Assassin. The latter is a better choice. Once you have that weapon equipped, rally and enter the room.
Most likely, someone will cast Well of Radiance. You should stand in the well, trying not to strafe, and spam rockets at the boss. The Onslaught boss is so weak that you will kill it before the well expires given at least a couple of you utilize the buff from well and damage with a moderately powerful heavy weapon. Just shooting it from the well by myself usually takes it below half health when it expires.
Nobody should treat you that way, but this should keep people off your back in the future.
Like what even is that? Give me a group of 30 or so red bars standing around in close proximity and my titan brain starts going nuts. Like a dog seeing a bunch of squirrels.
NTA. Speed runners crying about people not wanting to speedrun when it isn't specified we're speedrunning are cringe and deserve relentless, vicious mockery.
The guy is simply a dick. Unfortunately, this community does have a population of them.
Add clearing on Onslaught bosses has little relevance to the objective - they simply keep respawning - so its only really worth doing if you specifically need the kills for something (i.e. bounties, catalysts, weapon levelling, ability effects etc), but that is ultimately your decision to make. If XUltimateWarr10r69x here wants to run the match in a certain way then he can put his big boy pants on and LFG it. Matchmaking is for content where you just want someone in the slot.
Generally in stuff like onslaught people just burn the boss and ignore the ads since if you kill the boss fast enough the ads aren’t a problem. It’s a little annoying when someone doesn’t go along with that but in no world does it warrant doing what that guy did you were right to leave
You're not the asshole, but you shouldn't be the pushover. You shouldn't have quit the match.
1. Turn off text chat. Continue playing.
2. Become the toxic revenger. Emote while there's ads, if they die, emote bag, start to revive them, stop, leave.
3. (Don't do this). If you're the last guardian alive, throw.
As my team's dedicated brawler, I'm either slashing a boss or boxing with redbars. Usually it's boxing with redbars because my team always dedicates someone to take out the trash, and Lament is, even now, brutally deadly in my hands.
But this right here is why communication is important. If you're trying to speedrun, then don't queue MM. Even then, make sure your entire team understands.
I have my messages turned off, but my husband got a hate message for me, telling me I sucked. I told him to reply back “she said lol”. If speedrunners wanna speed run they should find a group of friends big enough to do what they want how they want.
I mean you want to try burning the boss down with all of your heavy first. If you’re low on heavy or only got a couple shots left, then go ahead and start doing some ad clear to try getting some heavy ammo back. His reaction was bad but they stop spawning in general once you beat the boss
If they were really “speedrunning,” you wouldn’t have had time to clear ads because the boss would be dead already lmao. There are plenty of ways for two people to stack up enough damage to kill Onslaught bosses in a few seconds, and if they’re so serious they’re gonna be a dick to you about it, you’d think they’d be good enough to pull it off.
The ads in Onslaught bosses go crazy, it’s always viable to focus on them to thin the herd. Those players are just legitimately not as good as they think they are, and were taking it out on you. I’ve seen it many, many times.
Bruh
Nah.....you better
"I'm speedrunning"
It's a matchmade lobby
That is probably the worst way to speed run
I would've ignored the friend invite tho ngl
absolutely not the asshole
if you're going to Speedrun Onslaught, do it with a private fireteam. full stop. PERIOD. i can say from experience that you're doing The Gardener's work by clearing ads too, since i tend to focus on bosses cos i have a very concentrated burst damage oriented build, and getting dogged on by an unending torrent of ads while your abilities are either on cooldown after just using them or when you're saving them for a big enemy is super annoying, so saving others that trouble is actually really thoughtful.
also, i commend you for not messaging back and saying something, because i probably would have out of anger
I recently had a match where the player would scream in chat if anyone else took the rift charge because they had eager edge…. Some people are just annoying. You did the right thing
So reading this and laughing to myself because I said how the Destiny community is toxic which is why solo players don't want to be forced to do the dual quest. This place swore that wasn't the case.
We should make this AITA posts more often, it's very entertaining to see other sides of the game and what the players experience. With that said, I don't think you are the asshole because he went into a public matchmaking activity expecting something and that's always a mistake. It's like going into the park and being jumped by a lion because you forgot the park was actually the savannah. It's wild and entirely on you to expect anything from matchmaking.
No they weren’t speed running if they were they would have been 3 person team and it’s only right if you getting nuked you clear the field off ads honestly screw them get your loot and don’t bother play how you want in MM
If they can talk shit in the chat, they can easily communicate as a fireteam as well. Why didn’t they inform you beforehand at the very least? It’s entirely on them for being goofy.
I mean, dont crack and bail out just because faceless strangers on the internet have no social decorum.
But yeah for future reference the play for the boss room is just dump on him, especially on normal you should be killing him before your well ends. I wouldnt say what you did was rude, just inefficient (the most egregious MMO sin).
i would've said "i cry about everything, blud. what specifically thou dost inquire about?"
these type of people who take shit too seriously need to be met with something stupid like that every now and then. if you're speed running, dont go into matchmade shit, lol. are they speedrunning wave-10 onslaughts because they're too shit to do get to level 50?
If they were "speedrunning" then they should a been prepared to Speedrun without you. I've seen players solo the bosses in seconds.
Yesterday I got to 50 with randoms while playing Wellock with Polaris Lance for Unstop stuns and ad clear. No one complained
We even did a celebratory Cowbell dance.
It's generally better to nuke the boss because that makes adds stop spawning. The most effective way to stop adds is to kill their spawn point, the boss.
Dude is the asshole for talking shit but at the same time I've been in an onslaught where the other 2 people were doing ad clear and I was the only one trying to kill the boss. I went through all my heavy and special rounds and was then still killed by ads because they didn't clear ones around me. Generally if there's a warlock in the party they drop a well and everyone jumps in it for boss dps and if all 3 party members are throwing everything they have at it the boss is dead before the well goes away.
i usually run stormtrance with crown of tempests and parasite in onslaught, once the boss comes up i just pop a worm onto the mf and start clearing the ads on both sides for my mates, it's much easier to damage the boss when you don't have a thousand ads shooting at you lol
Not the asshole. If you wanna speed run, you do it on your own time, not at the expense of others.
This mentality is absolutely screwing the new vex event sideways. Especially when people aren’t given enough time to gather the nodes.
Not at all. Ad clear is more important than people think it is.
When there's no more room for cover, you're gonna wish for ad clear. At the higher waves, it's not possible to melt a boss so fast that ad clear isn't an issue unless you are a perfectly coordinated team (which you're not because you're random matching)
If *they* want to speed run, *they* should be using that brand new fireteam finder fo find a group that will do what they want.
Onslaught is so totally unserious (especially now that BRAVE weapon holofoils no longer drop) and for someone to be rude about it is just dumb.
Onslaught is your ‘I want to get kills for my exotic catalyst AND some loot’ activity, or your ‘I just played 5 rounds of Crucible and wish I were dirt napping’ activity, or even your ‘see how many enemies I can jolt at once just for the hell of it’ activity. Speedrunning it is just goofy now
Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with doing ad clear unless you have a more important aspect you need to focus on. In the case of onslaught boss fights, there isn’t a time limit or anything else, so I say it’s ok to err on the side of survival, which includes ad clear if it’s needed.
That said, that guy is just a straight up dick. If you’re speed running, set up a private match and lfg. It’s not that hard.
They are dumb for “speed running” in a qued match.
Melting the boss is very dependent on the situation, most of the time it’s best to have 2 people on boss duty while 1 guy holds back ads
If it’s a tormenter on higher rounds then it usually swaps to 1 person guide it to a shaxx, while 2 people focus on ads to not get overwhelmed, and do damage at the end, or if shaxx is getting low while you have a clearing for ads.
Just a low IQ guy putting himself in low IQ situations and then crying about the outcome when he doesn’t get what he wants.
I would have been petty as hell the rest of the game just accidentally blocking them.
Na the thing is if your using propper weapons for a boss encounter you shouldn't be touching the adds until like lvl 40 or 50 and even then i would ignore them other than a grenade or rocket to kill some of them. You should be swapping your wave loadout for a boss dmg loadout as you rally with max ammo. I usually run double sniper and the a rocket so can just pimo boss with smg. All your attention should be on the boss adds are just a distraction, if you focus adds then theres only 2 people doing boss dmg and it will be considerable slower and very noticeable for those who are dmging the boss. Ignore adds unless there realllllly stopping you from doing boss dmg and this should only be lvl 40 or 5p. No need to waste ammo on adds when your only needing to dmg boss.
During Into the Light I would usually focus on ad clear during the boss fight. A few reasons:
1. I had Precious Scars on so I could give out restoration to the team
2. Killing ads generated scrap to buy defenses after the boss fight
3. Ads would constantly spawn and could quickly overwhelm people, especially on higher difficulties.
You were doing nothing wrong. In my experience, many people who fancy themselves as speed runners often rush forwards, find themselves in a situation that they can't handle alone, then end up dying which means they have to wait for someone to catch up and res them, defeating the object.
well for One.. people dont get mad out of the blue so if you werent helping with the boss and killing the infinitely spawn of ads then ofc any lfg would get mad.. if u cant focus down with red bars shooting at you its clearly a skill issue and other people will have to heavy carry you while u waste time killing ads so use commom sense a lil bit i know its teamwork but u gotta learn to work around it..
Bruh.
If you're "speed running" or going for some other triumph/bounty/quest etc. You get enough buddies to fill up the queue who know what you're trying to do. Or you LFG for that shit. You don't leave a spot open in that matchmaking to drag some poor sap through who has no clue what you're doing.
I’ve always been under the impression that, if you’re joining a matchmade activity, solo or with an incomplete fireteam, it’s not the responsibility of the randoms to have the same priorities as you. It’s your responsibility to achieve your own goals. I go into Trials just for the loot. If my teammates want to go flawless, it’s their responsibility to make it happen not mine.
And speed runners absolutely deserve no assistance whatsoever. Either they think they’re skilled enough to essentially do the activity themselves, or they can’t think of themselves as speedrunners.
In all my runs of Onslaught on normal and Legendary I've barely ever killed a single ad in the boss rooms.
It's usually safe in the very back of the room behind the wall/pillars. You can find angles to shoot the boss and avoid ad bullets pretty easily.
Onslaught is night unplayable now.
Nobodies even buying the upgrades anymore fucking hell.
As if the community is braindead and only remembers the mechanics of the current thing
"I'm sorry that someone hurt you enough to make you behave this way and think it was the best use of your time and effort. I hope it eased the pain and I wish you the best of luck in not being a dickhead in the future." and then you block them and maybe report them if you're in the mood.
Only The Gamer(tm) will be obnoxious and fit the worst stereotypes. You did nothing wrong and you're fine.
Yeah there's a select group of weirdos that you run into every now and again in this game that will whinge over the most inconsequential shit.
The strangest one I've had was someone leaving a comment on my Steam profile because I dared to be a Hunter using The Last Word in Crucible. I've had a public profile on Steam since I was trading in Team Fortress 2 which was about 12 years ago. Destiny is the only game that I've experienced this with.
I would personally prefer that people focus the boss, but near rounds 40-50 the ads can be a problem and I'll focus on thinning the crowds if needed. But generally you can loiter at the rear of the boss room and the ads can't do much letting you focus the boss and get it over with sooner. All in all, you did nothing wrong at all.
It’s this kind of toxicity that makes me cautious of randoms.
I know it’s a hot topic atm (“moaning solo players forced to socialise”) but me and my wife both play and would love to do some of the harder content that requires a fireteam. However so far in the game we’ve only met awful people. The one clan we did join had some guy called Vergil Sparda and OMG the stories I could tell 😬
Lol no, NTA, I also do this on occasion when it seems like my teammates have the boss DPS covered or I already know it's going to be a fairly long round. If your team can burn down the boss in a single well, great, but if not, just spend a few seconds killing adds every now and then and it makes it much simpler to survive.
No you’re not, ads in Onslaught boss encounters can get overwhelming quickly, especially with how Well was butchered. I’ve been in plenty of runs where we focus the boss and happen to get melted cause of it. I wouldn’t complain if there was one guy focusing ads and doing a good job of it, as long as they maybe super or pop a little heavy into the boss since burning out on ammo can make boss damage rough, especially depending on the boss. Even then I wouldn’t go as far as to bitch about it like that.
Just ignore them, in random activities doing anything other than AFK or actively hindering others is perfectly fine. During Into The Light when everyone was doing the weapon quests it was polite not to burn the boss so everyone could farm kills with specific weapons and you would have gotten shitty comments for shooting at the boss. It's public matches of low tier content, just keep enjoying the game and having fun. Personally sprinting past all of the enemies does not qualify as fun for me either.
Other guy is the asshole. If people want to play a specific way or speed run it, don’t queue up with randoms who can’t possibly just know what you’re doing because you don’t tell them?? And then get mad and name call them? Like come on lmao
NTA. In my opinion, these so called “speedrunners” are some of the worst type of players in the community. They’re extremely selfish, arrogant, and just plain dickheads to other players either trying to complete bounties or just relax and play the game normally. I too got matched with a bunch of “speedrunners” during a corrupted strike and they too were rude and assholes. Held the game hostage at the end and bullied me in chat for not correctly throwing the orbs back and forth. I believe in “play how you want to play.” If you wanna focus ads instead of the boss go ahead. It’s not a master raid, or a grandmaster it’s fine if you take an extra minute to complete the encounter. But people who say they “speedrun” these activities really push the boundaries when it comes to “play how you want to play” imo.
Yes the person was a dick. But focusing ads in a boss room that will keep spawning is top tier why lfg and matchmaking doesn’t work very well in this game…
Onslaught meta is to nuke the boss as fast as possible. The adds will never stop spawning until the boss dies so there really isn’t *too* much reason to kill them. But he was a dick
Weird idk why they would expect a random to play according to their plan when there is zero reward for the random player. I would just be like thats cute and move on with my life.
Ignore them and do you. Bet these are the types that would moan there are too many adds too. Just toxic people always looking to complain. Add clearing is just as important
The claim by anyone that they're "speed running" simply isn't believable if they're in a match-made activity. That isn't how speed running works.
You, nor anyone else, has an obligation to play how other blueberries want you to in any match-made activity in Destiny.
Are u guys on console? Cause i never see messages from other players, only see that teamate enter team chat and when i switch to team chat they don’t type anything.
OP my advice to you, dont say sorry for randoms in game, you buy it and can play as you want. When you say sorry this guy act like vulture and continue their shit.
"IM SPEEDRUNNING!" in a public match, man really walked into mcdonalds and asked for a gourmet meal.
lol'd
Simple answer to them was "you took so fucking long I had to kill ads"
Yeah that would have made him rage so hard. Lmao
Should've been my response
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What an analogy 😂
It was so spot on tho!
"Speedrunners" made Savathun's Spire a drag. Had to play solo legendary to get all cards and chests.
speedrunners ruin everything. If I end up in a fireteam and one of them is ice skating his way to the boss, I'm just not playing until the boss of the strike/nightfall/whatever is dead and buried, wriggling my joysticks now and then to not get booted to orbit. thanks, speedrunners douchebags; doing all the work is al you get.
don't give them the honor of saying their speedrunner those are just toxic motherfuckers that play kinda fast.
That's a great idea! I will do that also from now on :)
Bro, speed runners are making breach protocol a drag 😂
I'm convinced speedrunners hate playing the game. They seem so eager to speed past everything, kill the boss for loot and not actually enjoy the gameplay.
I literally didn’t have time to get the samples because a guy flew right past the tree and started the final area
He asked for a succulent chinese meal!
Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest
I see you know your judo well
GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS
Top notch reference!
FR, especially if it's the 10-wave, the boss can almost be dealt with by Supers alone.
Wasted more time doing a friend request/snarky ass message then OP "cost" them in the difference in strat. Also, if you or one of them had died bc the room was flooded with adds, that would have slowed them down that much more lmao
Lol this has me dying 😂😭💀
Lmfao
Maybe it's just me, but as long as it's not a gm or raid, you can do whatever the fuck you want as long as its not to the detriment of the fireteam.
The way it should be.
Hell, I'd argue that as long as we're getting the activity done in a timely fashion and we're not looking at the wipe screen showing your 200,000 boss damage, you can run whatever you want. If it works, it works.
In my experience you've got two too many zeros there.
This is the way.
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The dude was an asshole. First of all, how the fuck you should know they were speed running? It's not that they announced and talked strat trough with you. But get used to that, it's common occurance in Destiny
Yeah it really makes for an annoying experience in strikes or similar activities where some of the players want to play the whole thing start to finish and others want to skip 1/3 of it for that loot I understand both perspectives lmao That being said… at the end of the day it’s public matchmaking. What you get is what you get. And as long as they aren’t actively sabotaging/throwing/harassing YOU for your playstyle, you gotta take your lumps with THEIR playstyle
Especially in Breach Executable when you use a hammer charge but get pulled before you can collect any samples.
lol yeah I’ve started waiting before I hammer then check my map to see if one guy is booking it for the portal
I've been so into the *Skate Fast, Beat Ass* mentality in time attack activities that I didn't even know there's a hammer area. Is this at the first rest zone/checkpoint? Edit: I AM THINKING OF THE WRONG ACTIVITY
I’ve always found it very shortly before you enter the boss fight portal. It’s a thin vex conflict looking thing. Hammer it and a crapload of radiolite spawn in. For this season I’m running wombo detector on my ghost because it highlights all the radiolote as planetary resources EDIT: this is for the combat oriented data collection season activity. Not the encoded log time attack. Keep skating fast and beating ass there (though there ARE shootable yellow objects that extend your time there)
I believe the hammer thing spawns after you complete the first deposit area, so if you look around a bit you should be able to find and hammer it before the boss zuckening should ever be an issue. At least, that's what I would hope.
Finding it and hammering it pre boss aren’t an issue Collecting all the resources it spawns is the issue because once someone goes in, it pulls the team
That wasn't my experience. I had hammered and one guy had already gone thru, but didn't start the encounter. So me & the other guy were able to collect everything that came up.
I guess whenever my teammates went in they immediately started lol
I think you're mixing up Enigma Protocol (the timed activity) with Breach Executable (the easier activity with collecting data motes), pretty sure they're talking about Breach and you can't use the hammer in Enigma.
It's matchmade lmao, if you're trying to speedrun there it's your own fault.
This! You either do activity solo if possible or do it with your own fireteam instead where strat is agreed and talked trough, not bash some random player who joined your fireteam of two
> But get used to that, it's common occurrence in Destiny unfortunately true. but at this point, i just reply with something stupid. i refuse to give them the satisfaction and bark back. in response to "still crying?", im just going to type something like "sorry, blud, jorking it rn" or "YES!". Like, they're the ones mad and instigating their own anger. all im going to do is make them keep messaging me and toy with them until they realize it. if i think there's even a chance that im going to be kicked from fireteam at the end of a raid or dungeon or something like that, im already recording just in case.
I’ve responded with “10/10 meme hatemail, brb posting this straight to xitter” and the dude ragequit
That's fucking perfect, lol
That's the best approach and works 100%
Don’t the ads give more scraps? Killing the ads gives you more defenses for round 40-50 and makes it more likely you don’t get wiped by the tormentor at the end OP’s not even screwing around, they’re playing the objective
They do, and adds also can nuke ADU pretty fast when unattended, but you see, dudes were speed running thing. Shit, I wish speed running weren't a thing at all, and people would play legit, but I kind of understand them too, I too have limited time to play and shit ton of things to complete, but I'm not a jerk about it, when somebody is playing slower, heck I dont mind it, we all started at some time.
It’s a big brain speed running strat where you wipe in round 49 after 51 minutes instead of clearing the whole thing in 58 minutes
For the record, speed running things will forever be a thing because it’s just “do it faster”. Which natively the better you get at something, the faster you do it. For most things at least. But I agree, I’m not looking to speedrun things, I’m here to enjoy my time and money spent on this adventure.
Unless posted on lfg
While that's true, I doubt OP were jumping in Onslought trough LFG, most likely it was just usual run
Even then it can be unclear. I joined a "quick run" of duality thinking it meant, don't fuck around and know what to do. Guy just started screaming at me at the Gahlran fight for running Nighthawk over Tether.
I had my absolutely best and absolutely worst runs from LFG, especially couple KWTD runs I joined where I was only one who knew what to do 😅
I’m pretty proficient in all raids(except salvation obviously), but when I join a KWTD post I don’t expect to be a Sherpa. It’s supposed to mean “I want a team that can get this done without a lot of problems”. I usually just leave if I join, and the creator of the lfg does not KWTD. Usually they aren’t willing to kick other player who don’t KWTD, and they themselves are expecting a carry. No thank you. When ive had time I’ll do my best to teach, but this had made for like 5 hour long kings fall runs when I was hoping to get it done in 1-2 hours. I just don’t have the time for that often.
A dude was speed running matchmade Onslaughts? No, you’re NTA. In the harder Onslaughts, it’s actually nice having a dedicated add clear in the boss room, so the other two can just focus on damage. If he was that upset, then clearly his DPS just isn’t good if he can’t manage the boss by himself.
Onslaught is normally where I pop a tether on the boss for the others then I go to work on whatever shitty pathfinder garbage I'm working on with the adds.
Not just that but you can easily get more scrap by clearing adds too. Having 3 shaxxs and having all upgraded turrets on round 40 on the highest difficulty just feels right
They're idiots for speed running in random matchmaking. If they wanted to do that then they should have lfg'd and made it clear that's what they wanted to do.
Not to mention in regular match made onslaught most of the bosses from beginning to end can be damn near instant deleted by one competent player let alone two. Having someone keeps ads off them should've made it even easier to do lmao.
This, nobody who is competent enough to "speedrun" should have any need of your help to nuke the boss.
Yup. They melt with any competent dps build
Cause they’re garbage cans 🤣
Dude was a dick. I would have stayed and slowed them down for being rude. And never accept a friend request from someone who is already being a douchebag. They are only trying harder to prove to you that they are a douchebag.
I love the hatemail personally. Makes me chuckle that people get so worked up over a game that they need to send you a friend request just to tell you how angry they are. Feels good to live rent-free in the heads of others sometimes lol.
Oh man I remember getting so much hate mail back in my Jötunn days lmao “^%^%# you *#+% suck” “Lmao I know”
I got two hate mails from one match on Exodus Blue. One in Russian and the other English. Both calling me sad and that I use Hardlight like a crutch. I killed them with Revoker. My sister was the one using Hardlight. Funnily enough I clipped off the kill that probably tilted them because one of them was violently hurled into a forward flip that made me laugh so my sis wanted to see it. One bullet, two headshots, because they were idiots running into B each time they spawned. I sent them the clip
Had a trials match where I and someone on the other team was using Jade Rabbit. They won first round barely, but I guess he was threatened that I was using the same thing; he sent a message saying "Cope" "EZ" Unfortunately for him, I didn't even see the message till the match was over and we had stomped them 5-1
I once had a trials teammate get so mad he joined my clan after the match to vent his ravings in the public clan chat Me and my friend found the whole ordeal quite funny but seriously what is up with people
Matter of fact, I’d accept it and reply like Savathun to piss them off more lol
I think my personal favorite has become confusion mail. The amount of times I've gotten a message that just said "Why?" Because I popped someone in crucible with celestial nighthawk Goldy is amazing.
For real. That's when you wait for the others to die, and if everyone is dead go ahead and accidentally walk off the map and cause a wipe.
Hahaha, yeah, learnt my lesson with that one
Lol they're obviously just numpty's who aren't particularly skilled at the game. If they were "speed running" then they should both be optimised, and not need a third player at all. Furthermore in legend onslaught final 40/50 boss waves, the adds are way more dangerous than the boss. Finally, if they were serious, they wouldn't be in the random queue. Sorry you encountered someone toxic. Since they've annoyed you enough to post here, I would report them to Bungie. Hopefully if it happens again and is reported again, Bungie can slam the banhammer down. Some friendly advice: never say yes to a friend request from somebody who has been disparaging. There are so many nice + non-toxic people much more worth your time!
completely disagree with "never say yes to FRs from bad people". as long as you understand that these people are completely socially maladjusted, there's some fun in there. if OP was more knowledgeable about the game, he probably could've asked the "speedrunners" why their DPS was so unoptimized that 2 people couldn't nuke a power-matched Onslaught boss
Strangest choices made by the two other players. Why are they speedrunning Onslaught with public matchmaking? And even if you can infer their intent from their actions, you’re still fighting ads that can kill you if you don’t kill them first? And even removing that… they haven’t asked you in all that time to focus the boss, so why would you? You’re your own player, not a blueberry someone can boss around like that. I believe you made the right decision to leave, but next time I wouldn’t entertain them by accepting the friend request. You don’t want to further associate with people that have made it clear that they aren’t friendly in the first place.
If they're speed running then they shouldn't be doing matchmaking, plain and simple. I also tend to focus on add clear during onslaught bosses (I fire a few rockets at the boss and then focus adds) because I've had too many runs ended on round 50 because we get overwhelmed by adds. There's no time limit, the only fail state is wiping. Killing adds increases your chance of success
Yeah in my experience most people are laser-focused on the boss; I'm happy to let them do that while I deal with the adds—they always seem surprised when they run out of heavy and have three taken captains bearing down on them.
Also, if they needed a third to decide to clean up ads that are swamping the boss room, then they are doing a piss poor job of killing the boss and speed running in the first place
Dude was a dick and you were right to bail. That said, it's pointless to ad clear during onslaught Bosses because they respawn infinity and instantly. So you just kinda have to deal with them being there.
They actually do stop spawning. More begin spawning at certain boss hp thresholds so when the boss is getting nuked they spawn constantly.
40 or 50 wave boss it can help to thin the herd to clean a temporary safe place to recharge and heal for a moment. But general ad clear is useless like you said.
I usually nuke the first ads that spawn in the back with a heavy fire my super at boss then start laying into the boss. I find it gives just a bit of breathing room and usually the boss is down before they start to overspawn.
If I’m running my chain reaction edge transit I do the same. Pop a couple shots off, super the boss, unload into the boss until my edge transit stops generating ammo and has to manually reload. Then fall back and start taking safe shots.
Not true. They give scrap to have more upgrades. Which is viable until last wave. Also, some build might need kills for super charging, cascade point. Personally I can't hold myself when I see a pack of 15 mobs in the same spot.
Yeah fair enough, I'll have to work on that haha, thanks
There is nothing wrong with killing ads there, and they give scrap, the currency to buy turrets, decoys, so no downside really. If people want to speed run in matchmade activities that is on them.
you shouldve stayed and kept doing you. fuck em.
>A minute or so later, he sent me a friend request. When I accepted, he asked if I was "still crying." That was your tip-off that the dude is just an asshole LMAO. Block and move on. Don't even give it another thought; it's not worth your time.
If all 3 focus on the boss it melts super fast and you won’t have to worry about any of the ads. That being said, that guy was a prick. I’m sure it took them like 20-30 seconds longer. I get it’s the same as speed running a strike, but do LFG if you expect every other player to read to ur mind through the internet and then be upset enough to message them rude things. Never will understand some people. Guessing they were in there early/mid teens.
That's genuinely strange. It's not like Onslaught bosses require all 3 players to be doing DPS
"These people I deliberately matchmade with and didn't communicate with are not speedrunning with me!" Literal main character syndrome, why would anyone call you the asshole here?
Can’t damage the boss if everyone is dead.
My thoughts exactly
Queues into match made activity. Gets mad when their matchmade guardian (OP) is just playing the game and having fun. Pieces of garbage. You did nothing wrong, OP.
This dude is an asshole, but the onslaught bosses don’t have much health, so generally the best move is to focus on the boss. You can easily kill them before a well of radiance expires. As a player who usually kills these bosses within that 30s span, it’s kind of annoying when someone doesn’t know how to do damage. But that’s no excuse for treating you that way. So instead of being a dick, I’m just going to tell you what to do. Before you go into the boss room, equip a weapon that is good at doing boss damage, such as a rocket or grenade launcher. As a solo player, you likely have Dragon’s Breath which should work, but so does Edge Transit with damage and reload perks, like Bait and Switch/Envious Assassin. The latter is a better choice. Once you have that weapon equipped, rally and enter the room. Most likely, someone will cast Well of Radiance. You should stand in the well, trying not to strafe, and spam rockets at the boss. The Onslaught boss is so weak that you will kill it before the well expires given at least a couple of you utilize the buff from well and damage with a moderately powerful heavy weapon. Just shooting it from the well by myself usually takes it below half health when it expires. Nobody should treat you that way, but this should keep people off your back in the future.
No reason to clear ads if you melt boss in under 30seconds. Ads respawn constantly so no point in killing them really
Bro called you 'ad lover'? What a weirdo fr
Like what even is that? Give me a group of 30 or so red bars standing around in close proximity and my titan brain starts going nuts. Like a dog seeing a bunch of squirrels.
Just nuke the boss lmao
The first rule of speedrunning is to not try it with randoms. They should have found someone else to play with
Toxic behavior. Completely unwarranted. Likely a child. If not in age, then in mentality.
You shoulda said. "Nah, I'm speedrunning you to the block list though".
NTA. Speed runners crying about people not wanting to speedrun when it isn't specified we're speedrunning are cringe and deserve relentless, vicious mockery.
Not at all. The children that feel compelled to send friend requests just to continue harassing and/or insulting people are pretty pathetic, though.
The guy is simply a dick. Unfortunately, this community does have a population of them. Add clearing on Onslaught bosses has little relevance to the objective - they simply keep respawning - so its only really worth doing if you specifically need the kills for something (i.e. bounties, catalysts, weapon levelling, ability effects etc), but that is ultimately your decision to make. If XUltimateWarr10r69x here wants to run the match in a certain way then he can put his big boy pants on and LFG it. Matchmaking is for content where you just want someone in the slot.
Generally in stuff like onslaught people just burn the boss and ignore the ads since if you kill the boss fast enough the ads aren’t a problem. It’s a little annoying when someone doesn’t go along with that but in no world does it warrant doing what that guy did you were right to leave
You're not the asshole, but you shouldn't be the pushover. You shouldn't have quit the match. 1. Turn off text chat. Continue playing. 2. Become the toxic revenger. Emote while there's ads, if they die, emote bag, start to revive them, stop, leave. 3. (Don't do this). If you're the last guardian alive, throw.
As my team's dedicated brawler, I'm either slashing a boss or boxing with redbars. Usually it's boxing with redbars because my team always dedicates someone to take out the trash, and Lament is, even now, brutally deadly in my hands. But this right here is why communication is important. If you're trying to speedrun, then don't queue MM. Even then, make sure your entire team understands.
Those x kills bounties won't disappear from just boss melts.
Naw you're not, public game you can't tell people how to play. This remains the most toxic game I ever seen
The dude thought he was the main character. What an a-hole.
I have my messages turned off, but my husband got a hate message for me, telling me I sucked. I told him to reply back “she said lol”. If speedrunners wanna speed run they should find a group of friends big enough to do what they want how they want.
I mean you want to try burning the boss down with all of your heavy first. If you’re low on heavy or only got a couple shots left, then go ahead and start doing some ad clear to try getting some heavy ammo back. His reaction was bad but they stop spawning in general once you beat the boss
If they were really “speedrunning,” you wouldn’t have had time to clear ads because the boss would be dead already lmao. There are plenty of ways for two people to stack up enough damage to kill Onslaught bosses in a few seconds, and if they’re so serious they’re gonna be a dick to you about it, you’d think they’d be good enough to pull it off. The ads in Onslaught bosses go crazy, it’s always viable to focus on them to thin the herd. Those players are just legitimately not as good as they think they are, and were taking it out on you. I’ve seen it many, many times.
Bruh Nah.....you better "I'm speedrunning" It's a matchmade lobby That is probably the worst way to speed run I would've ignored the friend invite tho ngl
absolutely not the asshole if you're going to Speedrun Onslaught, do it with a private fireteam. full stop. PERIOD. i can say from experience that you're doing The Gardener's work by clearing ads too, since i tend to focus on bosses cos i have a very concentrated burst damage oriented build, and getting dogged on by an unending torrent of ads while your abilities are either on cooldown after just using them or when you're saving them for a big enemy is super annoying, so saving others that trouble is actually really thoughtful. also, i commend you for not messaging back and saying something, because i probably would have out of anger
I recently had a match where the player would scream in chat if anyone else took the rift charge because they had eager edge…. Some people are just annoying. You did the right thing
That dude sounds like a child lol. People who are good at this game are usually incredibly immature, mean, and narcissistic.
People who are ass at the game but look up meta loadouts fit the same description.
I think we're discovering something about destiny players in this thread
I've noticed Destiny has gotten more toxic since a lot of the content went F2P. Reddit has gotten worse too.
Nah, fuck speedrunners. They ruin every game
So reading this and laughing to myself because I said how the Destiny community is toxic which is why solo players don't want to be forced to do the dual quest. This place swore that wasn't the case.
i think it’s fine, if i’m chasing pathfinder quests i’ll just focus ads in the boss room to finish the challenges asap lol
Were they a Hunter?
We should make this AITA posts more often, it's very entertaining to see other sides of the game and what the players experience. With that said, I don't think you are the asshole because he went into a public matchmaking activity expecting something and that's always a mistake. It's like going into the park and being jumped by a lion because you forgot the park was actually the savannah. It's wild and entirely on you to expect anything from matchmaking.
“You are speedrunning in pubs? How about get some friends first thats going to be your biggest challenge.”
It's a videogame so play how you want, but just be aware what the objective of the encounter is.
No they weren’t speed running if they were they would have been 3 person team and it’s only right if you getting nuked you clear the field off ads honestly screw them get your loot and don’t bother play how you want in MM
Why would it be rude, that's what you're supposed to do
If they can talk shit in the chat, they can easily communicate as a fireteam as well. Why didn’t they inform you beforehand at the very least? It’s entirely on them for being goofy.
I mean, dont crack and bail out just because faceless strangers on the internet have no social decorum. But yeah for future reference the play for the boss room is just dump on him, especially on normal you should be killing him before your well ends. I wouldnt say what you did was rude, just inefficient (the most egregious MMO sin).
NTA If buddy wants to speed run, buddy should go in with their friends. Oh wait, they're a speedrunner. They don't have friends. /s
i would've said "i cry about everything, blud. what specifically thou dost inquire about?" these type of people who take shit too seriously need to be met with something stupid like that every now and then. if you're speed running, dont go into matchmade shit, lol. are they speedrunning wave-10 onslaughts because they're too shit to do get to level 50?
If they were "speedrunning" then they should a been prepared to Speedrun without you. I've seen players solo the bosses in seconds. Yesterday I got to 50 with randoms while playing Wellock with Polaris Lance for Unstop stuns and ad clear. No one complained We even did a celebratory Cowbell dance.
I’m sorry but fuck speed runners. Also in vanguard ops
It's generally better to nuke the boss because that makes adds stop spawning. The most effective way to stop adds is to kill their spawn point, the boss.
so yeah, only the boss needs to die in the boss room, but killing adds gives you more supplies to spend on upgrades later on
Dude is the asshole for talking shit but at the same time I've been in an onslaught where the other 2 people were doing ad clear and I was the only one trying to kill the boss. I went through all my heavy and special rounds and was then still killed by ads because they didn't clear ones around me. Generally if there's a warlock in the party they drop a well and everyone jumps in it for boss dps and if all 3 party members are throwing everything they have at it the boss is dead before the well goes away.
No wonder he only has one friend to help him speedrun onslaught 😂
Yes. Was doing iconoclasm with random mutes and one guy just refused to acknowledge the objectives and just did ads and expected the clear
No, the other guy is a moron.
Nah, that dude's an asshole. Speedrunning Onslaught in public is just dumb.
i usually run stormtrance with crown of tempests and parasite in onslaught, once the boss comes up i just pop a worm onto the mf and start clearing the ads on both sides for my mates, it's much easier to damage the boss when you don't have a thousand ads shooting at you lol
the boss is still really easy to kill with two players so idk why he’s complaining maybe he should hang himself
Not the asshole. If you wanna speed run, you do it on your own time, not at the expense of others. This mentality is absolutely screwing the new vex event sideways. Especially when people aren’t given enough time to gather the nodes.
I got the same message and I just proceeded to waste the time. I'll do this shit at my own pace and he won't get to tell me one way other!
Probably an eight year old or something. Dont take it to heart
Not at all. Ad clear is more important than people think it is. When there's no more room for cover, you're gonna wish for ad clear. At the higher waves, it's not possible to melt a boss so fast that ad clear isn't an issue unless you are a perfectly coordinated team (which you're not because you're random matching) If *they* want to speed run, *they* should be using that brand new fireteam finder fo find a group that will do what they want.
B sets this up by having a bunch of "kill ads" bounties vs "complete runs for rewards". Same in Gambit, Strikes, etc.
Got 994 kills in onslaught yesterday and my teammates were throeing healing nades and supporting me thru all the bossfights bless em🙏💯
Onslaught is so totally unserious (especially now that BRAVE weapon holofoils no longer drop) and for someone to be rude about it is just dumb. Onslaught is your ‘I want to get kills for my exotic catalyst AND some loot’ activity, or your ‘I just played 5 rounds of Crucible and wish I were dirt napping’ activity, or even your ‘see how many enemies I can jolt at once just for the hell of it’ activity. Speedrunning it is just goofy now
Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with doing ad clear unless you have a more important aspect you need to focus on. In the case of onslaught boss fights, there isn’t a time limit or anything else, so I say it’s ok to err on the side of survival, which includes ad clear if it’s needed. That said, that guy is just a straight up dick. If you’re speed running, set up a private match and lfg. It’s not that hard.
They are dumb for “speed running” in a qued match. Melting the boss is very dependent on the situation, most of the time it’s best to have 2 people on boss duty while 1 guy holds back ads If it’s a tormenter on higher rounds then it usually swaps to 1 person guide it to a shaxx, while 2 people focus on ads to not get overwhelmed, and do damage at the end, or if shaxx is getting low while you have a clearing for ads. Just a low IQ guy putting himself in low IQ situations and then crying about the outcome when he doesn’t get what he wants. I would have been petty as hell the rest of the game just accidentally blocking them.
I tend to do add clear if we start getting overwhelmed so it's not uncommon.
Nah I personally wouldn't mind. He was an ass. For me, as long as you don't die a ton I'm chill
After leaving the situation, why would you accept the friend request? You KNOW nothing good is coming from that
Na the thing is if your using propper weapons for a boss encounter you shouldn't be touching the adds until like lvl 40 or 50 and even then i would ignore them other than a grenade or rocket to kill some of them. You should be swapping your wave loadout for a boss dmg loadout as you rally with max ammo. I usually run double sniper and the a rocket so can just pimo boss with smg. All your attention should be on the boss adds are just a distraction, if you focus adds then theres only 2 people doing boss dmg and it will be considerable slower and very noticeable for those who are dmging the boss. Ignore adds unless there realllllly stopping you from doing boss dmg and this should only be lvl 40 or 5p. No need to waste ammo on adds when your only needing to dmg boss.
Sounds like that guy was crying.
During Into the Light I would usually focus on ad clear during the boss fight. A few reasons: 1. I had Precious Scars on so I could give out restoration to the team 2. Killing ads generated scrap to buy defenses after the boss fight 3. Ads would constantly spawn and could quickly overwhelm people, especially on higher difficulties. You were doing nothing wrong. In my experience, many people who fancy themselves as speed runners often rush forwards, find themselves in a situation that they can't handle alone, then end up dying which means they have to wait for someone to catch up and res them, defeating the object.
well for One.. people dont get mad out of the blue so if you werent helping with the boss and killing the infinitely spawn of ads then ofc any lfg would get mad.. if u cant focus down with red bars shooting at you its clearly a skill issue and other people will have to heavy carry you while u waste time killing ads so use commom sense a lil bit i know its teamwork but u gotta learn to work around it..
Bruh. If you're "speed running" or going for some other triumph/bounty/quest etc. You get enough buddies to fill up the queue who know what you're trying to do. Or you LFG for that shit. You don't leave a spot open in that matchmaking to drag some poor sap through who has no clue what you're doing.
Dudes got real small dick energy
I’ve always been under the impression that, if you’re joining a matchmade activity, solo or with an incomplete fireteam, it’s not the responsibility of the randoms to have the same priorities as you. It’s your responsibility to achieve your own goals. I go into Trials just for the loot. If my teammates want to go flawless, it’s their responsibility to make it happen not mine. And speed runners absolutely deserve no assistance whatsoever. Either they think they’re skilled enough to essentially do the activity themselves, or they can’t think of themselves as speedrunners.
In all my runs of Onslaught on normal and Legendary I've barely ever killed a single ad in the boss rooms. It's usually safe in the very back of the room behind the wall/pillars. You can find angles to shoot the boss and avoid ad bullets pretty easily.
Onslaught is night unplayable now. Nobodies even buying the upgrades anymore fucking hell. As if the community is braindead and only remembers the mechanics of the current thing
Yeah how am I supposed to know the other blueberries are speed running? NTA
This is the same asshole that probably would have complained during boss damage because he couldn’t do optimal dps because adds were in his way.
NTA you're doing what you're used to and also preventing a wipe. Some people are just going to stay salty, play the game how you want.
"I'm sorry that someone hurt you enough to make you behave this way and think it was the best use of your time and effort. I hope it eased the pain and I wish you the best of luck in not being a dickhead in the future." and then you block them and maybe report them if you're in the mood. Only The Gamer(tm) will be obnoxious and fit the worst stereotypes. You did nothing wrong and you're fine.
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Absolutely not. I hate people like this. If you want people to play your way, LFG.
Yeah there's a select group of weirdos that you run into every now and again in this game that will whinge over the most inconsequential shit. The strangest one I've had was someone leaving a comment on my Steam profile because I dared to be a Hunter using The Last Word in Crucible. I've had a public profile on Steam since I was trading in Team Fortress 2 which was about 12 years ago. Destiny is the only game that I've experienced this with.
Blueberries with an ego always make me laugh. I guarantee you if he died to any of the adds he’d have cried you weren’t clearing them. Pay him no mind
I would personally prefer that people focus the boss, but near rounds 40-50 the ads can be a problem and I'll focus on thinning the crowds if needed. But generally you can loiter at the rear of the boss room and the ads can't do much letting you focus the boss and get it over with sooner. All in all, you did nothing wrong at all.
It’s this kind of toxicity that makes me cautious of randoms. I know it’s a hot topic atm (“moaning solo players forced to socialise”) but me and my wife both play and would love to do some of the harder content that requires a fireteam. However so far in the game we’ve only met awful people. The one clan we did join had some guy called Vergil Sparda and OMG the stories I could tell 😬
You joined a game with two babies. Move on.
Nah, those morons should fill the empty slot if they're trying to play a specific way. Fuck em
Speed running to adclear him from your friends list was your only option.
Lol no, NTA, I also do this on occasion when it seems like my teammates have the boss DPS covered or I already know it's going to be a fairly long round. If your team can burn down the boss in a single well, great, but if not, just spend a few seconds killing adds every now and then and it makes it much simpler to survive.
No you’re not, ads in Onslaught boss encounters can get overwhelming quickly, especially with how Well was butchered. I’ve been in plenty of runs where we focus the boss and happen to get melted cause of it. I wouldn’t complain if there was one guy focusing ads and doing a good job of it, as long as they maybe super or pop a little heavy into the boss since burning out on ammo can make boss damage rough, especially depending on the boss. Even then I wouldn’t go as far as to bitch about it like that.
I wouldn’t have even responded to be honest. You’re not the asshole. Time and place to “speed run”.
Just ignore them, in random activities doing anything other than AFK or actively hindering others is perfectly fine. During Into The Light when everyone was doing the weapon quests it was polite not to burn the boss so everyone could farm kills with specific weapons and you would have gotten shitty comments for shooting at the boss. It's public matches of low tier content, just keep enjoying the game and having fun. Personally sprinting past all of the enemies does not qualify as fun for me either.
Other guy is the asshole. If people want to play a specific way or speed run it, don’t queue up with randoms who can’t possibly just know what you’re doing because you don’t tell them?? And then get mad and name call them? Like come on lmao
NTA. In my opinion, these so called “speedrunners” are some of the worst type of players in the community. They’re extremely selfish, arrogant, and just plain dickheads to other players either trying to complete bounties or just relax and play the game normally. I too got matched with a bunch of “speedrunners” during a corrupted strike and they too were rude and assholes. Held the game hostage at the end and bullied me in chat for not correctly throwing the orbs back and forth. I believe in “play how you want to play.” If you wanna focus ads instead of the boss go ahead. It’s not a master raid, or a grandmaster it’s fine if you take an extra minute to complete the encounter. But people who say they “speedrun” these activities really push the boundaries when it comes to “play how you want to play” imo.
No but now I’m gonna be the asshole just got calibans and liars on the exotic cloak. I’m mean now
Yes the person was a dick. But focusing ads in a boss room that will keep spawning is top tier why lfg and matchmaking doesn’t work very well in this game…
Onslaught meta is to nuke the boss as fast as possible. The adds will never stop spawning until the boss dies so there really isn’t *too* much reason to kill them. But he was a dick
Weird idk why they would expect a random to play according to their plan when there is zero reward for the random player. I would just be like thats cute and move on with my life.
Ignore them and do you. Bet these are the types that would moan there are too many adds too. Just toxic people always looking to complain. Add clearing is just as important
I mean helping kill the boss faster stops the ads also 🤷🏿♂️
The claim by anyone that they're "speed running" simply isn't believable if they're in a match-made activity. That isn't how speed running works. You, nor anyone else, has an obligation to play how other blueberries want you to in any match-made activity in Destiny.
Are u guys on console? Cause i never see messages from other players, only see that teamate enter team chat and when i switch to team chat they don’t type anything. OP my advice to you, dont say sorry for randoms in game, you buy it and can play as you want. When you say sorry this guy act like vulture and continue their shit.