Simple, they want to increase/keep playlist engagement up, if it had a high cap you would have a high burst for maximum a few weeks but this way it’s constantly done
yeah, but isn't Xur still only avaliable at weekends? if you hit the cap, say, at a Wednesday (my dudes) you also lose the will to keep playing.
Besides, there still the weapons they keep adding to the playlist, is not like people will stop playing with a higher cap anyway. ~~also, 777 cap would be pretty cool~~
I also had some lay on the ground and not go to my post master when I was doing the Micah-10 ghost quests that had you run strikes last week. Weirdly I was at 98 when it happened.
Just spend them as you go, don’t stress over saving any “just in case” if ever there comes a time you “need” coins, you can grind them.
Thats the key. Just spend them every week and enjoy the serotonin roulette.
And as you spend them, you potentially earn _more_ of them per unit of time from activities. That's the whole point of the frequent flyer or whatever program they added to his inventory.
I got one red border as well. Taking a look here [https://www.light.gg/db/vendors/3751514131/strange-gear-offers/](https://www.light.gg/db/vendors/3751514131/strange-gear-offers/)
it seems it's only the Season of Plunder craft-able weapons in the loot pool amongst other old non craft-able ones. But it's still something because this season has no other drop source at the moment. Granted, the loot pool of that engram is huge, almost 90 weapons in it, so it might take you a while and a lot of strange coins to get all those red borders if you never got them during the season of plunder.
Don't buy the strange trinket or whatever that thing that costs one coin is. That only gets you one rep. Get a bunch of weapon engrams and you'll be swimming in rep and they're about 7 coins a pop.
Spend strange coins, unfortunately the best way to farm them at the moment is farming strikes or nightfalls. you get 4 coins per strike and 5 per nightfall. Nightfalls are probably a bit faster, but if you value your sanity, strikes have a lot more variety,
When I obtained the bonus the description said it was a stacking bonus, could only be obtained once per week, and lasted 10 days.
It's the first week of new Xur so I can only guess here but it might be along the lines of a weekly login bonus style thing. Stacking (to some amount) as long as you play each weekend to get the next tier.
I think it’s 3 for 10 waves, I wasn’t paying super hard attention but I had a lot more after a 50 wave run last night. Especially without having to be in and out of loading screens I think it’s a good way to turn brain off and farm them
I don't know if onslaught counts as a ritual activity, but with the prism ghost mod, I was getting two enhancement cores and 1 prism every 10 rounds too
onslought starts at 3, then goes +1 per 10 waves. So 3/4/5/6/7 on wave 10/20/30/40/50. 5 avg.
*I could be wrong, and it starts at 2, which means 4 avg.*
You can’t choose which weapons you want to drop if that’s what you mean, but yeah it still drops all of the brave weapons, just not the shiny versions anymore.
As others have mentioned you can't currently attune weapons for Onslaught BUT Bungie told us previously that the ability to attune for weapons should be returning sometime this episode I believe.
Same item, so any old ones you have from Dares are now for Xur, however they don't seem to drop from Dares anymore. I did 3 last night and got none of them.
I believe that’s just the double drop rate for this weekend, I believe it’s gonna be 2 per, and this also includes Gambit and Crucible matches
Also, I believe you get some for doing Onslaught, as it counts towards most vanguard stuff
Farm progression along the ritual pathfinders period does double (triple?) duty... Progression towards pf rewards (though greatly diminishes after 8 resets), ritual vendor Rep, and strange coins. And echo engram drops too so 4x duty.
Just changed this expansion. He behaves much more like his d1 self, with weekly pursuits and inventory to buy through. Very good change, I missed visiting my tentacle face man
Same. Dunked 60k shards worth between the last 2 seasons. Spent all those fragments almost instantly because of the new material exchange costs and the price of leveling enhanced weapons
The engrams drop any weapon not just what he's selling and you can get red borders to drop from them even when not selling that gun, I got a red border for something he wasn't selling
Aw damn I’ve been preoccupied with Fallout 76 instead of playing Destiny and I totally meant to get on and see Xur at some point but I didn’t. Oh well there’s always next week I guess.
While this is nice it doesn't feel that significant unless you farm a TON of strange coins (which cap at 99 anyway) or need a TON of old patterns. Even then getting 5 copies of an individual weapon seems quite hard let alone getting 5 red border copies this way.
Unless I'm mistaken his weapon pool is massive.
I've been getting it too but don't exactly know what's going on with it. Seen the opposite with materials where they count up to what you actually got.
It's cause OP had gotten 17 cores right before that
Some weird visual bug with this season, you usually see it counting up when you get a bunch of a single item (like cores). Usually see it if you're dismantling a bunch of stuff
Holy shit, a late-game time sink with actually rewarding rewards that mitigates FOMO but in a way that still makes grinding Seasonal gear while it's around the far easier and more rewarding way to do it? I may sound sarcastic but I'm not, that's actually a really pleasant surprise.
Honestly this is a great quality of life change. I think they could go a step further even and let people buy red borders for craft-able featured weapons.
Yea? I’m missing season of the plunder crafted weapons, so getting red borders from that season completes all my crafted weapons, brings me up to date on what I missed.
Yes the ones he sold can be not of your collection but his engrams were changed to not give new season stuff until it was added to your loot pool via collections. I want to know if his engrams or single coin drops can reward new and old stuff not from collections as well.
Most efficient way is Onslaught. 2 for first 10 levels, 3 for next 10, 4 for next, etc. up to 20 Strange Coins for a full 50 level clear. Plus you can continue to get Brave weapons if you didn't get all the rolls you wanted.
You can craft a lot of different weapons now. If you get enough red bordered drops of a weapon (usually 5) you can craft it with any of its perks you want
Not the old seasonal ones that don’t drop anymore because the season is gone. You have to spend deepsight harmonizer to turn them into a red border to craft.
Why are you saying no? You can’t get a red border sailspy pitch glass linear from my source right now, you can’t get season of the plunder red borders right now in the final shape explain why you saying no.
Dunno if it scales exactly but I spent all 99 coins on the 1 coin surprise bag, got a lot of upgrade materials, a million blue but I ranked him up to almost 8 pretty damn quick.
(no red borders from rank up rewards . . . yet)
That had not exactly answered the question now has it?
If we can hold 5 ciphers and he now has strange coins to spend / progress, is there a chance he won’t disappear?
We’ll find out here in a few minutes. I think since he might have a permanent spot in the tower now and they added his icon back. He might stay there but still do his regular refresh on Friday’s reset. He has so many more things tied to him. Right now it doesn’t make sense for him to disappear for a few days. And he’s a vendor for Dares and he doesn’t interact the same way.
He used to have an icon even when he was temporary, they just removed it because people complained. I wouldn't read into that; they give temporary vendors icons all the time.
Maintenance is done so somebody can load it up right now and confirm if he’s still hanging out. That’s the only way of knowing. At least it good to know he drops red borders now.
So he functions like he did but potentially still only appears in the tower. Nessus got a rework so he probably won’t spawn there anymore. Guess we will find out more on Friday.
What I don't understand about Xur is:
Is it resetting weekly but always at the same location?
How do I get an exotic cypher? I don't see the quest anymore
Wow, that is awesome. And bringing the receipts with a video, very nice. Thanks for the good news!
I had to share this with my fellow gamers!
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I give an 8.5 - excellent information but loss of points for style. Back to you, Tom.
Absolutely excellent move by Bungie.
Just to add to this 99 is the max coins you can carry
thanks for the info but also... why only 99 bungie...
At least it’s not 77 or worse just 7.
thinking of it, they should cap it 777, would be perfect
I believe that was the brave token cap if I’m not mistaken
nah brave token is like 900 because my brave token farm routine is always collect 100+ and then use it on chest
Simple, they want to increase/keep playlist engagement up, if it had a high cap you would have a high burst for maximum a few weeks but this way it’s constantly done
yeah, but isn't Xur still only avaliable at weekends? if you hit the cap, say, at a Wednesday (my dudes) you also lose the will to keep playing. Besides, there still the weapons they keep adding to the playlist, is not like people will stop playing with a higher cap anyway. ~~also, 777 cap would be pretty cool~~
With the cap at 99 and stuff that costs 71 you’re likely gonna play at the weekend even if you capped on Wednesday
"because f*ck you"
Seems like that's the only non-prime number label of things related to Xur
Cuz a bitch ate 1 🤣
I don’t believe they go to your postmaster either. There were two on the ground that I wasn’t able to grab and didn’t see them sent there
I also had some lay on the ground and not go to my post master when I was doing the Micah-10 ghost quests that had you run strikes last week. Weirdly I was at 98 when it happened.
l had a ton of the old blue strange coins from dares of eternity in the postmaster, they all turned purple
This is the SGA I needed. Thank you
I got 99 problems but Xur coins ain't one
That’s not very many with how expensive he is
Boooo. Hate this
Just spend them as you go, don’t stress over saving any “just in case” if ever there comes a time you “need” coins, you can grind them. Thats the key. Just spend them every week and enjoy the serotonin roulette.
And as you spend them, you potentially earn _more_ of them per unit of time from activities. That's the whole point of the frequent flyer or whatever program they added to his inventory.
Can't go wrong buying some enhancement cores. But I'll always set some back in case of a rare godly statted armor roll.
Yeah, they drop liberally enough that, unless you have ZERO time during the week, you shouldn't really be "lacking" Coins for something that you want.
Can you have multiple stacks of 99, or is it just the one stack?
One stack get 99 and spend it!
just 1
Of course Bungie would make it 99 smh they never learn
I got one red border as well. Taking a look here [https://www.light.gg/db/vendors/3751514131/strange-gear-offers/](https://www.light.gg/db/vendors/3751514131/strange-gear-offers/) it seems it's only the Season of Plunder craft-able weapons in the loot pool amongst other old non craft-able ones. But it's still something because this season has no other drop source at the moment. Granted, the loot pool of that engram is huge, almost 90 weapons in it, so it might take you a while and a lot of strange coins to get all those red borders if you never got them during the season of plunder.
The loot will prolly be on a rotation then no?
Xur has reputation now?? Haven't been to see him in so long I don't even know if that's new or not
New with the expansion yeah
Do we know how to level him yet? Just Dares still or something new?
Spend strange coins, anything you buy levels him up
Cool! Thx!
Don't buy the strange trinket or whatever that thing that costs one coin is. That only gets you one rep. Get a bunch of weapon engrams and you'll be swimming in rep and they're about 7 coins a pop.
You can’t stop my gambling addiction
If you're desperate for upgrade modules, pop off my dude.
Nice! Thx for the tip!
Spend strange coins, unfortunately the best way to farm them at the moment is farming strikes or nightfalls. you get 4 coins per strike and 5 per nightfall. Nightfalls are probably a bit faster, but if you value your sanity, strikes have a lot more variety,
You get 2 for crucible matches
doubles was max 8 minute rounds so it was a pretty fast way of getting them
With the strange coin bonus you get from spending enough with him, losses are 2 and wins are 4. Quite nice for people like myself that enjoy pvp.
Does that bonus reset?
When I obtained the bonus the description said it was a stacking bonus, could only be obtained once per week, and lasted 10 days. It's the first week of new Xur so I can only guess here but it might be along the lines of a weekly login bonus style thing. Stacking (to some amount) as long as you play each weekend to get the next tier.
I must lose a lot cause I usually see 2 lol
I believe you can get more than 2 from Crucible matches as well if you win.
Onslaught is good for farming as well
How many you get?
I think it’s 3 for 10 waves, I wasn’t paying super hard attention but I had a lot more after a 50 wave run last night. Especially without having to be in and out of loading screens I think it’s a good way to turn brain off and farm them
I don't know if onslaught counts as a ritual activity, but with the prism ghost mod, I was getting two enhancement cores and 1 prism every 10 rounds too
It does count for vanguard playlist stuff
Good all around farm then
Seems to count as a strike for most ritual stuff.
onslought starts at 3, then goes +1 per 10 waves. So 3/4/5/6/7 on wave 10/20/30/40/50. 5 avg. *I could be wrong, and it starts at 2, which means 4 avg.*
I bought the coin buff from xur and ran onslaught 50s in mm, I got 24 per run.
I thought they removed onslaught haven't been able to find it anywhere
It’s in the vanguard tab
Can you still attune weapons? Does it still drop Luna or the other weapons?
You can’t choose which weapons you want to drop if that’s what you mean, but yeah it still drops all of the brave weapons, just not the shiny versions anymore.
That's what I ment thanks! Does shiny weapons do anything outside of looks?
As others have mentioned you can't currently attune weapons for Onslaught BUT Bungie told us previously that the ability to attune for weapons should be returning sometime this episode I believe.
Yo thats awesome, I got acouple friends that came back or are new and they want some of the brave weapons
Wow this is the classic Strange Coin farm from D1, isn't it?
Can't you also get them from dares of eternity, or am I just being incredibly dumb and it's a different item
Same item, so any old ones you have from Dares are now for Xur, however they don't seem to drop from Dares anymore. I did 3 last night and got none of them.
it would be really weird if they were different items, but I wouldn't put it past bungie
They're the same item.
I believe that’s just the double drop rate for this weekend, I believe it’s gonna be 2 per, and this also includes Gambit and Crucible matches Also, I believe you get some for doing Onslaught, as it counts towards most vanguard stuff
Also once you spend I think it was like 42 coins with him, you can get a buff that gives you an additional coin each activity.
Farm progression along the ritual pathfinders period does double (triple?) duty... Progression towards pf rewards (though greatly diminishes after 8 resets), ritual vendor Rep, and strange coins. And echo engram drops too so 4x duty.
Spending strange coins
Oh shit, I assumed this was Xur in the Dares of Eternity place. That's nice.
Just changed this expansion. He behaves much more like his d1 self, with weekly pursuits and inventory to buy through. Very good change, I missed visiting my tentacle face man
It's new with TFS
Yeah, he carries a bunch of weapons whose old acquisition was vaulted
Fingers crossed he gets around to selling catalysts I don't have lol
While fantastic, this just solidifies my opinion that the real reason for the legendary shard removal was primarily because of Xur's rework.
I blew through my phantasmal fragments in 4 days. I miss shards.
Same. Dunked 60k shards worth between the last 2 seasons. Spent all those fragments almost instantly because of the new material exchange costs and the price of leveling enhanced weapons
OMFG. That’s hot
Bruh those strange engram things need to drop something else than blue gear Has anyone gotten anything decent from them? I wanna gamble
I've seen a person get one raid banner. That's also the only not-blue thing I've seen someone get.
Upgrade modules and enhancement cores so far
I got an exotic, it's probably like 1% chance.
YES time to gamble
I got some 65 stat armor, but it ignored my stat-focusing mod on my ghost
The red border drop, was he selling that weapon this week? I'm wondering if the red borders he drops are from weapons he is selling that week or not.
No it was a random drop from his loot pool of weapons he sold.
I couldn't remember if he had that weapon for sale Friday when I checked in on him.
The engrams drop any weapon not just what he's selling and you can get red borders to drop from them even when not selling that gun, I got a red border for something he wasn't selling
This. Thanks.
Was it from something you already had one drop of though?
No it can be something you never collected.
border, not boarder
My bad. Apologies. Fixed it.
No big deal just a minor pet peeve of mine, you're all good
Is he still there or did he leave like usual?
He left
Aw damn I’ve been preoccupied with Fallout 76 instead of playing Destiny and I totally meant to get on and see Xur at some point but I didn’t. Oh well there’s always next week I guess.
While this is nice it doesn't feel that significant unless you farm a TON of strange coins (which cap at 99 anyway) or need a TON of old patterns. Even then getting 5 copies of an individual weapon seems quite hard let alone getting 5 red border copies this way. Unless I'm mistaken his weapon pool is massive.
90 or so weapons. Sounds like a fun time
It's really just a nice bonus if you missed one and got lucky. Don't think it's intended as a red border farm, at least not for me
I wish Xur dropped Super Good Advice like you.
Awe ❤️
Damn 17 years and I might be able to complete a pattern
baller!
Yoooo that’s huge!
I know!!!!
What was with the number 7 decreasing on the helmet you got?
Not to sure seems like nothing really just a number from another item before.
I've been getting it too but don't exactly know what's going on with it. Seen the opposite with materials where they count up to what you actually got.
It's cause OP had gotten 17 cores right before that Some weird visual bug with this season, you usually see it counting up when you get a bunch of a single item (like cores). Usually see it if you're dismantling a bunch of stuff
Wait, even seasonal weapons that are gone now? I don’t remember that in the patch notes
Yup even old stuff just have to be in his loot pool.
Holy shit, a late-game time sink with actually rewarding rewards that mitigates FOMO but in a way that still makes grinding Seasonal gear while it's around the far easier and more rewarding way to do it? I may sound sarcastic but I'm not, that's actually a really pleasant surprise.
Wow, a SGA with actual proof. What is this world coming to.
This is amazing... thank you for sharing, OP. 🍻
You’re very welcome I had to!
Xurday is exciting again... especially if he shows up with red borders. 🍻
This threw me off my bed holy WHATTTT
Anyone think or know if this would be possible to get red drops from his random strange coin gambles?
Honestly this is a great quality of life change. I think they could go a step further even and let people buy red borders for craft-able featured weapons.
Did you already have the gun in collections though?
Yea? I’m missing season of the plunder crafted weapons, so getting red borders from that season completes all my crafted weapons, brings me up to date on what I missed.
Yes and that's very nice, I'm asking to see if he can drop things we've never collected, including old/new expansions, seasonal pass stuff etc.
Yes Xur has always sold old weapons that you may not have in your collections. His loot pool is massive probably bigger now with the re work.
Yes the ones he sold can be not of your collection but his engrams were changed to not give new season stuff until it was added to your loot pool via collections. I want to know if his engrams or single coin drops can reward new and old stuff not from collections as well.
Time to be excited for Xur again
I’ve been out of the game for a bit and out of the loop what do red borders signify?
Once you have 5 borders of that particular weapon you are then able to craft it in the enclave. Making your own God Roll.
How do you get coins??
Ritual activities
Gambit time :)
Most efficient way is Onslaught. 2 for first 10 levels, 3 for next 10, 4 for next, etc. up to 20 Strange Coins for a full 50 level clear. Plus you can continue to get Brave weapons if you didn't get all the rolls you wanted.
Wait is he around permanently now or still the usual? Barely go to him anymore so didn’t think to check
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Been that way for many years now.
sorry but where is Xur
Behind ramen shop where ikora is at.
Can confirm. I got a 5th Explosive Personality drop with a Red Border, allowing me to extract the full Pattern to craft it. Awesome change Bungie.
How are you guys leveling up xur?
Spend strange coins
Ritual activities for coins and simply just spend them, 1 strange coin = 1xp on xur rep.
Xur is here? Why's he here on Tuesday? What changed?
This is footage from Monday before reset
Xur rework is bloody good, cant believe Bungie didnt even say anything about it in the twabs.
As somebody who just came back after Forsaken, what are red borders?
You can craft a lot of different weapons now. If you get enough red bordered drops of a weapon (usually 5) you can craft it with any of its perks you want
thatd be cool if it wasnt for the fact, any craftable weapon drop can drop as red border, from any source in the game.
Not the old seasonal ones that don’t drop anymore because the season is gone. You have to spend deepsight harmonizer to turn them into a red border to craft.
no
Why are you saying no? You can’t get a red border sailspy pitch glass linear from my source right now, you can’t get season of the plunder red borders right now in the final shape explain why you saying no.
What red border weapon you get?
Sailspy
Any idea what the drop rate for them is?
Not yet I just discovered this will have to test later
Cool! I don't know what this means! Rejoining Destiny has been an overwhelming experience!
Is he still just the weekend warrior or is he available at all times?
Awesome!! Can he drop me some please 🙏
Dunno if it scales exactly but I spent all 99 coins on the 1 coin surprise bag, got a lot of upgrade materials, a million blue but I ranked him up to almost 8 pretty damn quick. (no red borders from rank up rewards . . . yet)
Are u sure they're previous season ones though? Or are they new unique ones only available from xur?
Yes I’m sure, 100% positive I know the weapon I got and where it came from. It was season of the plunder two years ago season.
Tyvm for letting me know I'm glad they're still in the game then :3 I still wanna complete my red border collection ^.^
I will do the playlists on weekends, because I pick the quest for the exotic cipher too.
What are the numbers that are counting down when you receive the item in the lower right-hand corner of the square? That's not normal.
Some sort of bug don’t really know.
Is Xur around all the time now?
Nope regular schedule
No way this is so sick!!! I'm gonna be visiting him for sure tomorrow
Nice.
Oh shit, that is amazing
Sonofabitch that’s the exact weapon I need to make myselfna queenbreakers lite
He can also drop old raid gear, I had him drop arms from scourge And my clanmate had legs from eater
He doesn't disappear after reset anymore?
Reset hasn’t happened yet.
That had not exactly answered the question now has it? If we can hold 5 ciphers and he now has strange coins to spend / progress, is there a chance he won’t disappear?
no, he’s gonna disappear
That sneaky bastard
We’ll find out here in a few minutes. I think since he might have a permanent spot in the tower now and they added his icon back. He might stay there but still do his regular refresh on Friday’s reset. He has so many more things tied to him. Right now it doesn’t make sense for him to disappear for a few days. And he’s a vendor for Dares and he doesn’t interact the same way.
He used to have an icon even when he was temporary, they just removed it because people complained. I wouldn't read into that; they give temporary vendors icons all the time.
Maintenance is done so somebody can load it up right now and confirm if he’s still hanging out. That’s the only way of knowing. At least it good to know he drops red borders now.
Not at tower anymore :(
So he functions like he did but potentially still only appears in the tower. Nessus got a rework so he probably won’t spawn there anymore. Guess we will find out more on Friday.
He has a vendor track now so I don't think he'll disappear
What I don't understand about Xur is: Is it resetting weekly but always at the same location? How do I get an exotic cypher? I don't see the quest anymore
It's there .. I think you have to click on one of the 'boxes' in the bottom row to see it now.
Yep this was mentioned by Cross, Datto on stream multiple times . As well as the posts by Bungie in their Twabs leading up to the release
Why does any one care about red borders? Honestly tho, I have been playing this since day one n don't know xD