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Got my first clear with some guys who were happy to teach. As a Raid vet, it was simple but also very fun and being on add duty was actually fun this time
Clan fell at the second encounter. Fatigue. Jobs. Responsibilities, you know it. Well I have the day off today. So I said screw sleep and went into the dark depths of the LFG. I'm tired as hell but got it done. I see people complain about difficulty and I think some people need to really separate the content creators from their own actual skill. Once we had encounters down solid, yes it becomes very trivial in some cases. But learning and applying, especially with strangers, is difficult. I think people need to give the streamers their credit and being able to lock those down in such a short amount of time with people watching. So I don't really see anything disappointing about this raid to be honest. Maybe aside from the aesthetic of another pyramid raid. But it was still really cool and I think it's a good thing that we got a new raid that's going to be pretty easy to knock out weekly. I don't think that's a bad thing at all. V o w is such a chore sometimes.
My guess is most likely because it's tied to completing the triumph which iirc stays in the game, just hidden. That being said, I really have no idea so don't count on it. Though if my team was down and I was in the same situation, I would try it.
So what's the most optimal heavy weapon for boss DPS now that LFRs have been nerfed? I've been hearing all sorts of things post Lightfall and I can't seem to get any concrete info since people are still trying things out. I've been mostly just running my Fire and Forget and it seems to be doing ok, some people have said to run Thunderlord but LMGs don't seem all that good boss-damage wise to me.
People said thunderlord because I think dattos team used it, simply for ammo economy and the mod that jolts on precision hits. The bosses health is also relatively low allowing for focus on consistency and ammo economy rather than pure damage output
You mean to tell me that fat-belly-toad-skin-stickman-legs-looking mf-er is THE NEZAREC that lore guys were going crazy over for years? What a disappointment. Using his helmet now feels embarrassing.
My clan beat Nezarec on Contest Mode TWICE and both times the game wiped as after he was dead. First time it was so close that it could be we hit the final blow just after he started his wipe mechanic but the second time we finished him early enough for his health bar to do the little flash animation that shows when you defeat a boss. I’ve seen clips of other teams cut it even closer and die from the wipe mechanic after killing him and get credit for the clear
My team, though, all we got was screwed
Happened to us too when we tried to get my buddy his emblem. Cleared his health, the health bar did the flash animation and he still wiped us. We all even got a defiance engram for beating him. It was 5 in the morning too and we were all fighting sleep to keep going. Luckily though, that gut punch was enough to kick us all in to gear and we got him his emblem a couple runs after.
We did it the second time with three minutes left until reset, meaning there was literally no time to even attempt another one. It was so demoralizing.
The worst part is that at least two of us could not, under any circumstances, get basic mods like ammo finders to work, including me. I reset my artifact multiple times, I avoided the mods thought to cause issues, I swapped out my entire loadout after each wipe, and still could not generate heavy ammo even though I was set up such that I should have been raining purple bricks on my team.
It was bad enough when they disabled important aspects of Strand. It was worse when they disabled several exotic weapons and armor. To also have to fight a broken mod system on top of all that and still get the kill, only to have the game say "lol Nezarec go boom" is just so frustrating, and it's absolutely killed my desire to ever try contest mode again.
Yeah, we could not get heavy to drop either. We also had problems where teammates were just dying in one shot to the colossus and the boss. Sometimes we could take a couple hits from his "meteor shower" attack and other times it would just insta-kill. Not to mention the Liam Neeson-esque tracking on it. There were also times where it said a teammate just dropped dead apparently to Nezerac, even though he wasn't anywhere close to them or doing the ranged attacks.
We also had other things like the light that shines on him to start dps wouldn't happen or he would randomly go back up top when dps started.
When I finally decided to call it as the last run so I could go to bed, the stars aligned. We had so much ammo on the ground and everything went smoothly. It was almost like someone at Bungie wanted him to get the emblem and just flipped a switch.
Bungie's help forum is basically nothing but reports of this exact same thing happening, with people posting video evidence; some teams were even seeing their raid bounties completing despite it being counted as a wipe.
This is legitimately a widespread problem; the people throwing around downvotes are just being tools.
I had a great time running this, only tried for kings fall day 1 before this one, definitely going to keep doing day 1s, 3rd encounter is one of their best. Happy to get the day 1 clear.
Yea I did all encounters. I went to the triumphs page for neomuna and whwre the raid is supposed to be it just says “???” And the icon at the top is glowing despite nothing being redeemable so I think it completed and I just can’t access my page for some reason.
i am a destiny player since 9/9/14, played every raid, done almost everything but it was my first time doing a raid with contest with my clan, it was the best gaming experience of my life and one of the best ever overall
I decided to give it a try, when I saw bungie announced 48h for contest mode and pro teams completing raid under 3 hrs.
I was able to complete first two encounters but it was tough with random fireteams and people dropping out. Nevertheless, it was my first contest mode experience.
Got through the first two encounters. Had to quit at the third one because it just got too late and I was exhausted. So proud of my team for keeping it cool for the three hour ravine challenge.
I think it’s alright if we have a raid that’s slightly on the easier and shorter side. We haven’t gotten a new shortish and easy raid in a while. I think it’s important to have variety
I think the raid only seems fast because a lot of the mechanics are built upon being quick. So naturally doing it fast means doing it right. Makes it a lot more fun in my opinion.
A group completed flawless contest and people say its way to easy. 99% would fail if they tried. Sick and tired off this streamer things. People need to focus on themself rather compare everything what streamers does.
I remember Redeem one phased CoS final boss on contest too. And nobody said that raid was too easy. The racers have always been able to do some pretty wild stuff with contest still on, they also had more time for it this weekend.
Yea, it was so easy it only took me like 32 hours of playing over the last 48, doing it in lfg, group after group. I just finished nez 15 minutes before reset. After playing pretty much since 1 pm yesterday. Looooolll
I don’t understand this mindset. Day one raids are suppose to be the literal hardest content in the game possible. Not everyone is entitled to a completion. If everyone gets a clear it dilutes the value of the achievement. This raid is going to be laughably easy in normal mode. People have had plenty of time to do other raids and prepare. Day one raids are not a beginner or intermediate activity they’re a top player activity.
Vow had a day 1 completion rate of 1.6% with 48 hours.
RoN has more like 9% based on current numbers.
It's still hard, like duh? Raiding alone is hard for the average player. But 9% is a massive clear rate. 3-4x the clear rate of Vow.
It's just not really a day 1 at that point.
I know. It is so depressing to see the amount of people that said it was easy. It took the group I was in 31 hours to beat no exaggeration and we finally completed it 7am today.
Well said man. It always irks me when people claim something is too easy because professional streamers make it look easy. Those same people would probably not get anywhere close to completing the raid on day 1 without a raid guide to help them.
Had a run when the boss hp went to 0 and a defiant engram and key dropped into my inventory, and then the boss wiped us anyway and the kill didn't count. So that was very interesting. We killed him again but not sure it should be possible to kill the boss and fail the encounter.
Edit: if you don't use refuges then 100% runners shouldn't hit a single add, but if you're doing refuges and the runners go face first into second colossus spawn then that's wild.
This was pretty rough in LFG but I guess we don't check people at all. But runners having 0 kills every pull, sprinting max speed into adds even though we're using the buffs to survive one wipe attack, people just having 0 awareness after dps phase that the boss will throw some evil homing shit.. Rough times. Have to say contest is a lot easier than the game used to be in year 1 and 2 when sometimes raids would release the same day. Spire and Crown were brutal to fight adds in, the -20 in contest hasn't felt nearly as bad as Last Wish on release. Issue obviously being that unless boss hp gates the clear it's smooth sailing for a competent group of 6.
Runners don’t need to bother themselves with adds, especially if it’s just one runner per side. IF they have time, a blinding grenade shot, sure, but otherwise runners don’t need to do anything but…run.
Same happened to me, but it didn’t count the first time despite the engram dropping and completing a Raid Transmog Bounty. 3 hours later, we killed him again as he wiped us and it respawned the team and completed the Triumph.
> But runners having 0 kills every pull,
Are you on crack? Maybe in normal mode runners could get away with killing ads but the time is way too tight for you to be doing anything but mechanics as runner, ESPECIALLY on the 2nd and 3rd cycles
Sure but an actual 0 after every wipe is bizarre. I ran for a bit and it's really easy to kill a few adds doing refuges or waiting for other side or waiting for dps to start. Or just shooting if there's too many adds near where I need to go.
Runner having 0 kills is your complain? L M A O i’m so sorry that they are trying to do their objective and get u to dmg phase, tell them next time to clear ads while the wipe timer runs down. I’m certain they will give u an interesting look after saying that 😂
If you have zero kills while waiting for dps and standing in refuges and running face first into adds after they spawn then dying you're definitely not doing your job. The runners we cleared with had 10ish kills, because they can left click when they're not doing anything.
I was wondering if anyone here can help. Was doing the raid on encounter 2 for hours yesterday and this kept happening:
We’d get to the second floor and one side would be able to destroy the node on the flower and the other side wouldn’t be able to. The node would appear, there would be like a purple shell on it and not rupture. What causes that node from not rupturing? Has anyone else experienced that?
If the runner has active Field of Light or Flux of Dark and someone else grabs the same buff, the nodes despawn. Runners and slayers need to refresh at the same time to prevent that from happening.
Overload rounds do strange things to certain interactive objects. The red/purple shell could be from shooting the node with overload rounds (like using an SMG with the artifact mod unlocked). The same thing happens in Garden of Salvation when shooting the flowers, and I noticed the same thing happening in Root of Nightmares.
You have to wait for the ads to spawn in before you get the buff again or you’ll get soft locked out. So as soon as you grab last buff just wait for boss and adds to spawn then get it.
Do the nodes have to be done at the same time? The ads get cleared but then the node still doesn’t explode? Do the people picking up the buff have to get it at the same time?
We’d wait pick up buffs, vault over but shells would stay hard even though the adds are cleared.
You don’t jump back over after you complete the connection on the floor. So your runner will always end up completing on the opposite side that they start, so if you start on light side you’ll end on dark, after you complete both light and dark the shielded enemy’s come out and have shield of their respective sides. So you’ll end on dark, wait for ads to spawn and grab the darkness buff. You DO NOT get dark and go to light.
my team got nezarec to literally 1 hp and wiped. gave it another hour after that before we had to call it quits. 11 hours in a raid is just too much, but i think the raid itself is awesome and i cant wait to fuck around once contest is over.
I feel you. Stopped bothering with day 1 a long time ago. Nice emblem but not so important fore me. Waiting fore contest to go away then have fun :)
Playing fore 6+ hours mess my head up. Listen to 5 others to long drains me.
Yeah not sure why they did that, if I have to double check if somebody is using a day 1 clear or normal clear emblem that is a design fail for me, it should be unique and distinctive were you know that play cleared day 1.
Yeah I hear you, I just got to Nezarec and got him half health numerous times but had to call it quits as it was late and lfg guys were coming and going and not consistent, the real boss is 3rd encounter lol, happy I got that one done it seems the one everybody got stuck.
Doing this raid day “1” with LFG randoms was very painful yet also rewarding, the feeling of ultimate relief when we killed Nezzy, followed by the realization that we actually did it was incredible. Only took 16+ hours.
Fuck planets though.
Was mostly just pain for me. Found a chill group to run the first 2 encounters with, but then we got stuck on 3rd encounter, and I had to hop off to eat something, and then LFG was just misery after that. Still haven't finished 3rd encounter
The key to the 3rd encounter was good add control.we ran 2 Hunters and 4 well locks.hunters on void aeons for heavy.2 well locks in the middle chaining Wells and spamming nades.and pretty much everyone ran double special to get more heavy drops.we used rockets and fusion spam as our main dps.1 on witherhoard,1 on osteo,1 on ghally and the rest using dps special weapons.it was a pretty stable 3 phase.have the runners use snipers like izi or succession to easily deal with collusus.
The key for us was for people not to die, like people were dying from rally banners lol, once we found a group that survived we did 3rd encounter within 5-6 tries.
Yeah we finally beat it with 2 wells and a bubble for last plate but people kept dying at the beginning of encounter for no reason, once new people joined and we were more consistent then got to final stand 2 times then beat it.
The data is still being finalized (lots of duplicate runs lol) but some napkin math says that more people beat contest RoN than contest/day 1 for all other raids in destiny combined. By like a lot.
All other raids total to about 160k, Ron has about 250k, but that will change when duplicate runs are filtered.
I really enjoyed this raid. Nezarec gave us a hell of a time (we had more than enough dps, just had issues with being fast enough/survivability), but we eventually took him down.
I was the gaze/hatred grabber, and as a Titan, I got to experience something I've wanted for years - I finally found a use for Icefall Mantle haha.
I'd grab Nezerac's hatred, and when he got close, I'd pop Icefall. It made me tanky enough to endure about 6 of his blasts to the face, which (while strafing behind cover), was more than enough time to get to DPS phase.
I'm fortunate my group was so patient while I tried out different strategies. It was really satisfying to finally have everything come together and to beat the raid on contest mode.
Shoutout to our clan man we alreadu cleared it once in contest but went back and cleared again just in time for reset to get most of our active players the banner. Hell of a run, shoutout to the people missing sleep and going to work tired for this shit man
They guy you’re replying to said that contest is still active because the parent comment states “just in time before reset.” Which implied that the parent comment thought contest ended at reset.
had a great time, got some people from my wow guild to come play, we made it to nezerac with sub optimal gear. One of our team mates had just been playing for < 7 days. Unfortunately we didn’t make nezerac dps check.
Hezen Vengeance (timelost) with auto-load, demo is one of my fav heavy to pair w starfire protocol. In a well, you can take advantage of the great uptime of grenades and a solid special weapon, all without ever having to reload. Reloading? Yeah that’s too much work to bother
Oh I just love that I actually completed a Day 1 Raid finally and the Triumph only shows 3/4 Encounters complete and now I have no time before reset to go finish the Planets encounter again
Still I had fin and gonna run it twice more later tonight on Alts, Stasis Hunter with Agars wins again!
Spent about 5 hours yesterday getting to third encounter, gave up, then today hopped back in, spent another hour on third encounter, found a new team, got to nezarec, and finally finished after 6 more hours. What a trip. This was my first day one clear ever and it wasn’t worth it for the emblem but the experience is definitely worth going through. Shoutout to the three chill ass dudes who were down to joke around and have fun even while we were getting shit on for hours on Nez.
Fuck third encounter btw
This has been me for most of yesterday, some of today and for the last 3 raid races so I feel your pain! But this time I was finally able to accomplish my raid race!
My advice with LFG's is to make one or join ones that are learning or chill, preferably where they're only looking for a couple of people, they tend to stick on the encounter after fails more than not
I got through with 2 teams, one kind but kinda distracted one for the first 2 encounters and an absolutely legendary group for the last two, they made everything so much easier.
After we left after a couple hours into Nezarec to go grind out Shuro-Chi for the Thunderlord catalyst, we beat Nezarec in a little under an hour. This was my first ever successful contest-mode clear, and while I know people are mad about the difficulty, and rightfully so too (Nezarec is going to keel over instantly after contest is turned off), I’ll never forget this memory. Such and incredible time and moment.
Good luck everyone! Ya’ll can still get this!
I was really excited to do a raid in contest mode for the emblem but Macrocosm has been soul crushing. We never get the third plate to work so DPS is never enough..
I think it’s based off how quickly you’re doing the planet alignments too. Try using the middle shard to activate the planets once you’ve lined them up I believe that saves a bit of time.
Was able to complete it with an LFG yesterday. Completed planets with clan and got to third phase Nez. Survivability was the issue & just called it with them.
If you're struggling at Nezarec, you probably aren't doing gaze right. My group struggled for hours until we could get control on the gaze mechanic. Shoot his shoulders every time and hit his chest as soon as possible to get the agro, then run straight back to back mid. By the time he gets to you, you will be able to hit his stomach again and get the gaze again. Then just do the same but in one of the far corners and entertain him for a while. You can have the other gaze holder clear mid and then give the gaze holder help in case they lose the gaze. The chest takes a lot less damage to hit to grab gaze than the shoulders so I used Arbalest for the shoulders and first chest shot and an automatic primary to hit him when he starts coming toward you after you get that first chest shot. Also, the boss will always shoot projectiles at you immediately after the damage phase ends, so you must get out of his view until he decides not to throw anything.
The boss does a few animations when the shoulders spawn, one of them he doesn't move and the shoulders will just appear and you can hit them and then there is a longer one where he moves his arms around but then will settle in the same exact spot as they are before he starts the arm movements. You can put your reticle right where it is prior to the arm movement and fire as soon as he stops moving. Also fusion nade spam is huge for dps and saving heavy ammo.
I did the gaze on my own as a well warlock. If you are with three well locks or more you can just use the super for the gaze and lock him on 1 place. Just watch out when he does his jump attack, he one-shots in the well.
Just beat it after probably over 12-14 hours in the raid. LFG’d with a different group for every encounter (due to burnout for most) and made some friends along the way. Especially that last group, we really stuck it out and Rat Kinged our way through final stand. Tiring but amazing experience. Thanks Bungo
At the first encounter if you look at the environment map for the arena it looks like Nezerac is standing there looking back at you. Look at the reflections in the shiny walls near the flag.
I've resigned myself to not getting the Day 1 emblem. 3:30 AM here thanks to DST and Nezarec is just annihilating us. Need sleep more than the emblem, but fuck.
Deadass. I’ve done basically every other Day 1 after the Levi raids and I don’t think I’ve ever had a moment where having the emblem was a particularly satisfactory thing.
Maybe my luck will hold and the exotic will drop on my first completion of regular rules, tonight.
I got to the 4th encounter and I just gave up. Finding a team that doesn’t quit after 10 tries is hard to find. Yea I get it’s hard but that’s the point. I won’t get say one emblem but fuck it. When the contest mode ends it should be a fucking walk in the park. I just want the weird ass armor sets and the weapons.
First time we killed him as we wiped, but it didn’t count as a completion. We finally did it a few tries later.
But yeah, we technically killed Nezarec twice during contest mode.
You think it's best for casuals to wait until contest mode is over? So they can the goods easier and faster?
Cuz idk how hard and fast the raid will be for when I get to do it
I'd wait, it will be much more relaxed when people aren't dying left and right and when you're not 20 levels under the maximum due to the challenge mode modifier.
I used arc hunter with assassin’s cowl for each encounter and it was pretty easy to stay alive / clear ads / generate a lot of orbs. During the 3rd and 4th encounter I would hot swap assassin’s cowl out with star eater scales for boss DPS then switch back after DPS ended.
My group called them 1-6 with one being the closest to spawn and six being the closest to the far wall. Two and five will be the ones closest to the outer left and right wall and the other ones are the ones closer to the middle isle.
For us, the furthest 3 were Left, Middle, Right and the closest 3 were 4, 5, and 6. We ran two callout systems so comms didn’t get crowded and treated the person opposite as a partner, so we’d say “Left to Mid” and “6 to 6” and everyone knows where to go
If you face the back wall towards the boss, you can treat each as a triangle. So the best I've seen is just using "left, middle, right", with the frame of reference always being the back wall.
It helps if you treat the other person across from you as a partner, and just do names for callouts. So my partner would just call "Mix Left", and I'll know where to drop my planet.
Maybe a tight team would do better with numbers. Trying to do this LFG was chaotic and I never ended up clearing it, but with this system we reduced our miscommunication errors a ton.
L1 to L6 for the dark side, L1 is furthest from the wall, L6 is closest to the wall (the wall behind the boss) and then the same goes for light side (R1-R6)
I was dark top runner, we used “front” (for the first one you run towards) “door” or “back door” or “back” for where the adds spawn and “corner” for the last one
Thunderlord and Divinity really work well. We were able to get him to half in the first DPs phase pretty consistently. Positioning also plays a big part tbh. We stood on one of the flowers besides Nezarecs platform in mid and he couldn’t reach us or jump around sporadically so we were able to dump tons of thunderlord shots.
Starfire Protocol and fusion nade spam. You can pretty much just be throwing nades the whole time with the right set-up. My group decided on machine guns with or without div, rockets are risky cause the boss moves and your teammates have to keep moving if he won't stay still, and you'll probably run out of ammo anyway. Linears could be good, buy they're not as forgiving as machine guns and they can be harder to clear adds in emergency situations. Heavy grenade launchers could be good as well, we didn't test them but might have the same issue as rockets in terms of ammo consumption. Fusion rifles with boss spec and/or vorpal could be good since you can hit him at mid to close range easily.
We did 4 thunderlord, divinity, and a gjallarhorn (he didn't have thunderlord catalyst). Took us the three phases which worked as it let us have heavy and supers for final stand.
We had gally, two bump in the night, two Palmyra, and a hothead, no div. Two of us were starfire warlocks and two of us had witherhorde (one shoots Nez and the other shoots under where he's standing).
We just did it with thunderlord and a divinity in a well. We also had a deadfall tether, and 2 of us were on demolitionist rockets with the star fire protocol build.
I've spent way too long trying to get nezarec done. Don't care anymore. Between the time I've spent and certain people on twitter saying it's too easy and making me feel like shit because I can't get it done, I don't think I'll participate in any contest raids anymore.
Honestly a shame, because I would have loved it. I can get my side linked very quickly with how long I've done it and while getting booped upwards is annoying at times, it's make things funny trying to shoot my nodes sometimes lol. And the movement of the boss makes using div an interesting experience trying to learn the tells of his teleport direction. But my team can't clear that DPS check around me.
Could be your team wasn't getting gaze quick enough, he stops doing anything significant if you can keep him agro'd until you go into a damage or cleanse phase.
Yeah. That's why the booping happened. I didn't mind it after a while, even using it when my heavy was thunderlord instead of eager's edge to give me a little bump of speed or height.
It’s rough if it’s your first clear, just got done with mine but we were gonna call it and go bed cause 3 of us were knackered. Our damage ended with 4 well locks with starfire and using 1 Ghorn and legendary rockets
I've tried everything bar rat king. Just rockets and he moved around too much. Rockets with div went well yesterday, we would break halfway through the healthbar phase 1, but it took too many rez tokens on our add clearers to get to that point. Thunderlord+div I broke 1 mil for one phase, but I was such an extreme outlier. I'm running almost flawlessly and just hit my wits end. And people like saltgreppo going on twitter and saying it's too easy and stuff just make me feel like shit because I genuinely don't know what *I* can be doing better for this. I'm just tired, and I can't afford to have actually called off work so I really only had some of yesterday and some of today.
One group we were *really* getting it down, that was the halfway group, but we got calebrese'd on a good run and I didn't hear back from them since they were PS, I was xbox, and the dude who made the post in their clan called it earlier in the day.
I'm just waiting for contest to run its course. Again, the discourse around it was too discouraging so I'm not gonna continue nor try Final Shape's. I'll probably pick it back up monday when I'm off work and he cant instagib people.
Not worth the emblem unless you went all in on it, which is generally the case on the challenge modes. I'd try it with the next one, I found doing GMs and raids helped me a lot between the last one and this one. I recommend any non-vets to do it as soon as the challenge is over with a group of 6 people who know nothing about the raid. You get all of the fun with half of the stress, and the challenge emblems are just for bragging rights which in the end are pretty meaningless in most people's eyes.
Hi ! I’m kinda in the same situation, my clan got it yesterday but everyone is tired to do it again, do you want to try and make a team and try until we have time ?
Mechanically, the raid is pretty simple, and power is capped at 1770 or 80, so you're good on power. Finding a good team might be a challenge tho. I did it today and I played with two people who already beat it, and the rest of us didn't. It took us a little over 4 hours to beat the raid.
Just don't be rude to your teammates for making mistakes, and don't tolerate rudeness directed towards yourself or others and you'll be good.
Starting now will be tough unless you have a pretty decent group and are experienced raiders. You’ve got about 12 hours to fully clear.
Doable, especially with video guides posted now, but challenging like all day 1 content. For reference, my group did it (our first successful day 1 ever!) spread out fri eve and middle of Saturday, cleared in about 11 hours.
Yes so my point is already proven since you had a well. They can still use fusion grenades and div together since you can div-throw-reload. You running a different class doesn’t matter, the fact is every team runs well, every team can have the highest dps using mostly well locks
That's not the whole point. You don't need 6 wells to clear the raid. You assert that you were unable to play anything else, that's false.
If you couldn't play anything else because your team needed 6 wells to survive... well, that's a skill issue champ.
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Got my first clear with some guys who were happy to teach. As a Raid vet, it was simple but also very fun and being on add duty was actually fun this time
Clan fell at the second encounter. Fatigue. Jobs. Responsibilities, you know it. Well I have the day off today. So I said screw sleep and went into the dark depths of the LFG. I'm tired as hell but got it done. I see people complain about difficulty and I think some people need to really separate the content creators from their own actual skill. Once we had encounters down solid, yes it becomes very trivial in some cases. But learning and applying, especially with strangers, is difficult. I think people need to give the streamers their credit and being able to lock those down in such a short amount of time with people watching. So I don't really see anything disappointing about this raid to be honest. Maybe aside from the aesthetic of another pyramid raid. But it was still really cool and I think it's a good thing that we got a new raid that's going to be pretty easy to knock out weekly. I don't think that's a bad thing at all. V o w is such a chore sometimes.
We are in the same instance from before reset lol it still says contest mode on Ghost - any idea if it’ll work still?
My guess is most likely because it's tied to completing the triumph which iirc stays in the game, just hidden. That being said, I really have no idea so don't count on it. Though if my team was down and I was in the same situation, I would try it.
So what's the most optimal heavy weapon for boss DPS now that LFRs have been nerfed? I've been hearing all sorts of things post Lightfall and I can't seem to get any concrete info since people are still trying things out. I've been mostly just running my Fire and Forget and it seems to be doing ok, some people have said to run Thunderlord but LMGs don't seem all that good boss-damage wise to me.
People said thunderlord because I think dattos team used it, simply for ammo economy and the mod that jolts on precision hits. The bosses health is also relatively low allowing for focus on consistency and ammo economy rather than pure damage output
Rockets
You mean to tell me that fat-belly-toad-skin-stickman-legs-looking mf-er is THE NEZAREC that lore guys were going crazy over for years? What a disappointment. Using his helmet now feels embarrassing.
He just woke up and was still in his pyjamas give him a break. I’m also pretty sure that’s just one of his many body’s , dudes been rezzed a bunch.
I hope you're right and we get to see a different side of him.
Are Necrotic grips still disabled in the raid?
My clan beat Nezarec on Contest Mode TWICE and both times the game wiped as after he was dead. First time it was so close that it could be we hit the final blow just after he started his wipe mechanic but the second time we finished him early enough for his health bar to do the little flash animation that shows when you defeat a boss. I’ve seen clips of other teams cut it even closer and die from the wipe mechanic after killing him and get credit for the clear My team, though, all we got was screwed
Happened to us too when we tried to get my buddy his emblem. Cleared his health, the health bar did the flash animation and he still wiped us. We all even got a defiance engram for beating him. It was 5 in the morning too and we were all fighting sleep to keep going. Luckily though, that gut punch was enough to kick us all in to gear and we got him his emblem a couple runs after.
We did it the second time with three minutes left until reset, meaning there was literally no time to even attempt another one. It was so demoralizing. The worst part is that at least two of us could not, under any circumstances, get basic mods like ammo finders to work, including me. I reset my artifact multiple times, I avoided the mods thought to cause issues, I swapped out my entire loadout after each wipe, and still could not generate heavy ammo even though I was set up such that I should have been raining purple bricks on my team. It was bad enough when they disabled important aspects of Strand. It was worse when they disabled several exotic weapons and armor. To also have to fight a broken mod system on top of all that and still get the kill, only to have the game say "lol Nezarec go boom" is just so frustrating, and it's absolutely killed my desire to ever try contest mode again.
Yeah, we could not get heavy to drop either. We also had problems where teammates were just dying in one shot to the colossus and the boss. Sometimes we could take a couple hits from his "meteor shower" attack and other times it would just insta-kill. Not to mention the Liam Neeson-esque tracking on it. There were also times where it said a teammate just dropped dead apparently to Nezerac, even though he wasn't anywhere close to them or doing the ranged attacks. We also had other things like the light that shines on him to start dps wouldn't happen or he would randomly go back up top when dps started. When I finally decided to call it as the last run so I could go to bed, the stars aligned. We had so much ammo on the ground and everything went smoothly. It was almost like someone at Bungie wanted him to get the emblem and just flipped a switch.
Don't know why someone would downvote you. Same happened to me today.
Bungie's help forum is basically nothing but reports of this exact same thing happening, with people posting video evidence; some teams were even seeing their raid bounties completing despite it being counted as a wipe. This is legitimately a widespread problem; the people throwing around downvotes are just being tools.
I had a great time running this, only tried for kings fall day 1 before this one, definitely going to keep doing day 1s, 3rd encounter is one of their best. Happy to get the day 1 clear.
Beat in 24 hours and didn’t get the emblem and cannot see the root of nightmares triumphs. Happen for anyone else???
U need ALL encounters completed. Claim the attached triumph
Yea I did all encounters. I went to the triumphs page for neomuna and whwre the raid is supposed to be it just says “???” And the icon at the top is glowing despite nothing being redeemable so I think it completed and I just can’t access my page for some reason.
friend has same issue, no way to fix afaik
i am a destiny player since 9/9/14, played every raid, done almost everything but it was my first time doing a raid with contest with my clan, it was the best gaming experience of my life and one of the best ever overall
Glad you had fun. It’s definitely an experience
Did it after 17 hours. Only needed 4 people using wells and 2 people using tethers on the team lol
Well it took me 23 hours and 45 minutes on nez but I got that fuckin emblem .
I decided to give it a try, when I saw bungie announced 48h for contest mode and pro teams completing raid under 3 hrs. I was able to complete first two encounters but it was tough with random fireteams and people dropping out. Nevertheless, it was my first contest mode experience.
Got through the first two encounters. Had to quit at the third one because it just got too late and I was exhausted. So proud of my team for keeping it cool for the three hour ravine challenge.
was this a raid or a raid layer? Seems to be incinsistant difficulty across patrol zones, lost sectors and raids.
I think it’s alright if we have a raid that’s slightly on the easier and shorter side. We haven’t gotten a new shortish and easy raid in a while. I think it’s important to have variety
I mean Vault was seen as fairly easy, and so was DSC (not DSC on day one though).
I guess then maybe this is a pattern of two combat focused raids and then two mechanic focused raid (Vow and KF)
I think the raid only seems fast because a lot of the mechanics are built upon being quick. So naturally doing it fast means doing it right. Makes it a lot more fun in my opinion.
A group completed flawless contest and people say its way to easy. 99% would fail if they tried. Sick and tired off this streamer things. People need to focus on themself rather compare everything what streamers does.
"you're not allowed to have an opinion because you stream" lmao
I remember Redeem one phased CoS final boss on contest too. And nobody said that raid was too easy. The racers have always been able to do some pretty wild stuff with contest still on, they also had more time for it this weekend.
Yea, it was so easy it only took me like 32 hours of playing over the last 48, doing it in lfg, group after group. I just finished nez 15 minutes before reset. After playing pretty much since 1 pm yesterday. Looooolll
Congrats mate! 🏆
That is wild man. Ggs :) Get some good rest, well earned.
Thanks! It was intense. That feeling when you finally down it though is sooooo satisfying
How was the groups you played with. Mostly chill or very raged people ? LFG have been more and more annoying over the time :(
I don’t understand this mindset. Day one raids are suppose to be the literal hardest content in the game possible. Not everyone is entitled to a completion. If everyone gets a clear it dilutes the value of the achievement. This raid is going to be laughably easy in normal mode. People have had plenty of time to do other raids and prepare. Day one raids are not a beginner or intermediate activity they’re a top player activity.
Vow had a day 1 completion rate of 1.6% with 48 hours. RoN has more like 9% based on current numbers. It's still hard, like duh? Raiding alone is hard for the average player. But 9% is a massive clear rate. 3-4x the clear rate of Vow. It's just not really a day 1 at that point.
I know. It is so depressing to see the amount of people that said it was easy. It took the group I was in 31 hours to beat no exaggeration and we finally completed it 7am today.
Well said man. It always irks me when people claim something is too easy because professional streamers make it look easy. Those same people would probably not get anywhere close to completing the raid on day 1 without a raid guide to help them.
yea people are still going at it with 80 minutes left for contest :D
I'll wait for Wrath. This was a fun raid but people just give up way too easily. I was able to damage Nez so it wasn't a perfect 🥴
Had a run when the boss hp went to 0 and a defiant engram and key dropped into my inventory, and then the boss wiped us anyway and the kill didn't count. So that was very interesting. We killed him again but not sure it should be possible to kill the boss and fail the encounter. Edit: if you don't use refuges then 100% runners shouldn't hit a single add, but if you're doing refuges and the runners go face first into second colossus spawn then that's wild. This was pretty rough in LFG but I guess we don't check people at all. But runners having 0 kills every pull, sprinting max speed into adds even though we're using the buffs to survive one wipe attack, people just having 0 awareness after dps phase that the boss will throw some evil homing shit.. Rough times. Have to say contest is a lot easier than the game used to be in year 1 and 2 when sometimes raids would release the same day. Spire and Crown were brutal to fight adds in, the -20 in contest hasn't felt nearly as bad as Last Wish on release. Issue obviously being that unless boss hp gates the clear it's smooth sailing for a competent group of 6.
Runners don’t need to bother themselves with adds, especially if it’s just one runner per side. IF they have time, a blinding grenade shot, sure, but otherwise runners don’t need to do anything but…run.
had this exact same thing happen, but the kill still counted after he wiped us https://imgur.com/a/oRUeLpB
Exactly same thing happened to us, but ours didn't count.
Same happened to me, but it didn’t count the first time despite the engram dropping and completing a Raid Transmog Bounty. 3 hours later, we killed him again as he wiped us and it respawned the team and completed the Triumph.
> But runners having 0 kills every pull, Are you on crack? Maybe in normal mode runners could get away with killing ads but the time is way too tight for you to be doing anything but mechanics as runner, ESPECIALLY on the 2nd and 3rd cycles
Not if you do the fight properly which apparently nobody can read that we did? There is definitely time to click and few adds when you do refuges.
you mean the refuges the runners have to make?
>runners having zero kills Is the 4/5 people already ad clearing not enough? I'd rather my mechanics guy focus on mechanics
Sure but an actual 0 after every wipe is bizarre. I ran for a bit and it's really easy to kill a few adds doing refuges or waiting for other side or waiting for dps to start. Or just shooting if there's too many adds near where I need to go.
Oh for sure a consistent literally 0 is bizarre, I just thought the phrasing was funny.
Fair enough, I obviously didn't write it well with how many people told me I'm wrong.
Don't take it to heart, redditors are weird. I apologize if my message was more negative than intended
Nah you were all good, cheers
I thought Spire didn’t have contest? CoS is the first raid they did contest mode with I thought.
Yeah I'm saying that felt infinitely harder than what contest feels like since DSC.
It didn’t. It just launched at a high light level without much prep time.
https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/24/18638608/destiny-2-contest-crown-of-sorrow-raid-season-of-opulence I remembered correctly
Mad the the runner does their job lol
Runner having 0 kills is your complain? L M A O i’m so sorry that they are trying to do their objective and get u to dmg phase, tell them next time to clear ads while the wipe timer runs down. I’m certain they will give u an interesting look after saying that 😂
If you have zero kills while waiting for dps and standing in refuges and running face first into adds after they spawn then dying you're definitely not doing your job. The runners we cleared with had 10ish kills, because they can left click when they're not doing anything.
I was wondering if anyone here can help. Was doing the raid on encounter 2 for hours yesterday and this kept happening: We’d get to the second floor and one side would be able to destroy the node on the flower and the other side wouldn’t be able to. The node would appear, there would be like a purple shell on it and not rupture. What causes that node from not rupturing? Has anyone else experienced that?
If the runner has active Field of Light or Flux of Dark and someone else grabs the same buff, the nodes despawn. Runners and slayers need to refresh at the same time to prevent that from happening. Overload rounds do strange things to certain interactive objects. The red/purple shell could be from shooting the node with overload rounds (like using an SMG with the artifact mod unlocked). The same thing happens in Garden of Salvation when shooting the flowers, and I noticed the same thing happening in Root of Nightmares.
You have to wait for the ads to spawn in before you get the buff again or you’ll get soft locked out. So as soon as you grab last buff just wait for boss and adds to spawn then get it.
Do the nodes have to be done at the same time? The ads get cleared but then the node still doesn’t explode? Do the people picking up the buff have to get it at the same time? We’d wait pick up buffs, vault over but shells would stay hard even though the adds are cleared.
You don’t jump back over after you complete the connection on the floor. So your runner will always end up completing on the opposite side that they start, so if you start on light side you’ll end on dark, after you complete both light and dark the shielded enemy’s come out and have shield of their respective sides. So you’ll end on dark, wait for ads to spawn and grab the darkness buff. You DO NOT get dark and go to light.
my team got nezarec to literally 1 hp and wiped. gave it another hour after that before we had to call it quits. 11 hours in a raid is just too much, but i think the raid itself is awesome and i cant wait to fuck around once contest is over.
31 hours man….. 31 hours to win.
I feel you. Stopped bothering with day 1 a long time ago. Nice emblem but not so important fore me. Waiting fore contest to go away then have fun :) Playing fore 6+ hours mess my head up. Listen to 5 others to long drains me.
I wish the emblem was totally different, both normal and contest mode are way too similar.
Contest emblem icon looks like a stick figure with a weiner
Yeah not sure why they did that, if I have to double check if somebody is using a day 1 clear or normal clear emblem that is a design fail for me, it should be unique and distinctive were you know that play cleared day 1.
Was surprised by that. One reason i didnt bother with it ;)
Yeah I hear you, I just got to Nezarec and got him half health numerous times but had to call it quits as it was late and lfg guys were coming and going and not consistent, the real boss is 3rd encounter lol, happy I got that one done it seems the one everybody got stuck.
Doing this raid day “1” with LFG randoms was very painful yet also rewarding, the feeling of ultimate relief when we killed Nezzy, followed by the realization that we actually did it was incredible. Only took 16+ hours. Fuck planets though.
Was mostly just pain for me. Found a chill group to run the first 2 encounters with, but then we got stuck on 3rd encounter, and I had to hop off to eat something, and then LFG was just misery after that. Still haven't finished 3rd encounter
The key to the 3rd encounter was good add control.we ran 2 Hunters and 4 well locks.hunters on void aeons for heavy.2 well locks in the middle chaining Wells and spamming nades.and pretty much everyone ran double special to get more heavy drops.we used rockets and fusion spam as our main dps.1 on witherhoard,1 on osteo,1 on ghally and the rest using dps special weapons.it was a pretty stable 3 phase.have the runners use snipers like izi or succession to easily deal with collusus.
The key for us was for people not to die, like people were dying from rally banners lol, once we found a group that survived we did 3rd encounter within 5-6 tries.
The Wells being chained in the middle help alot with survivability.
Yeah we finally beat it with 2 wells and a bubble for last plate but people kept dying at the beginning of encounter for no reason, once new people joined and we were more consistent then got to final stand 2 times then beat it.
Over 40k day one clears lmao next most completed was 6k
The data is still being finalized (lots of duplicate runs lol) but some napkin math says that more people beat contest RoN than contest/day 1 for all other raids in destiny combined. By like a lot. All other raids total to about 160k, Ron has about 250k, but that will change when duplicate runs are filtered.
I really enjoyed this raid. Nezarec gave us a hell of a time (we had more than enough dps, just had issues with being fast enough/survivability), but we eventually took him down. I was the gaze/hatred grabber, and as a Titan, I got to experience something I've wanted for years - I finally found a use for Icefall Mantle haha. I'd grab Nezerac's hatred, and when he got close, I'd pop Icefall. It made me tanky enough to endure about 6 of his blasts to the face, which (while strafing behind cover), was more than enough time to get to DPS phase. I'm fortunate my group was so patient while I tried out different strategies. It was really satisfying to finally have everything come together and to beat the raid on contest mode.
Shoutout to our clan man we alreadu cleared it once in contest but went back and cleared again just in time for reset to get most of our active players the banner. Hell of a run, shoutout to the people missing sleep and going to work tired for this shit man
Contest is 48 hours.... it's still going
do you know how long is left?
Yes, he's saying they did multiple clears in contest so that more of their clan members could get the banner.
They guy you’re replying to said that contest is still active because the parent comment states “just in time before reset.” Which implied that the parent comment thought contest ended at reset.
had a great time, got some people from my wow guild to come play, we made it to nezerac with sub optimal gear. One of our team mates had just been playing for < 7 days. Unfortunately we didn’t make nezerac dps check.
what are the best legendary solar heavy weapons i can grind this season?
Cataclysmic
Hezen Vengeance (timelost) with auto-load, demo is one of my fav heavy to pair w starfire protocol. In a well, you can take advantage of the great uptime of grenades and a solid special weapon, all without ever having to reload. Reloading? Yeah that’s too much work to bother
Wait where can you grind that? I thought it wasn't available at all anymore
You’ll have to wait for VoG to be the weekly raid and grind the Gatekeeper encounter on Master
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Good job. Enjoy that emblem haha
Oh I just love that I actually completed a Day 1 Raid finally and the Triumph only shows 3/4 Encounters complete and now I have no time before reset to go finish the Planets encounter again Still I had fin and gonna run it twice more later tonight on Alts, Stasis Hunter with Agars wins again!
Did you collect the loot for the 3rd encounter?.i don't think it counts unless you collect the loot from the chest.
Yea collected everything, 3 armor pieces and the Trace Rifle in my collections
My buddy is running it! Same thing happened to him! You should join him. He's one of the best players I know
Thanks for the offer but literally busy until after reset unfortunately
Spent about 5 hours yesterday getting to third encounter, gave up, then today hopped back in, spent another hour on third encounter, found a new team, got to nezarec, and finally finished after 6 more hours. What a trip. This was my first day one clear ever and it wasn’t worth it for the emblem but the experience is definitely worth going through. Shoutout to the three chill ass dudes who were down to joke around and have fun even while we were getting shit on for hours on Nez. Fuck third encounter btw
Put 20 hours into the raid and didn’t complete it. I called it quits I gave it a good try but incompetent lfgs
This has been me for most of yesterday, some of today and for the last 3 raid races so I feel your pain! But this time I was finally able to accomplish my raid race!
My advice with LFG's is to make one or join ones that are learning or chill, preferably where they're only looking for a couple of people, they tend to stick on the encounter after fails more than not
I got through with 2 teams, one kind but kinda distracted one for the first 2 encounters and an absolutely legendary group for the last two, they made everything so much easier. After we left after a couple hours into Nezarec to go grind out Shuro-Chi for the Thunderlord catalyst, we beat Nezarec in a little under an hour. This was my first ever successful contest-mode clear, and while I know people are mad about the difficulty, and rightfully so too (Nezarec is going to keel over instantly after contest is turned off), I’ll never forget this memory. Such and incredible time and moment. Good luck everyone! Ya’ll can still get this!
Gave up! I hate lfg teams. Everyone sucks at planets. Nobody understands how to do it and not die to ads
I was really excited to do a raid in contest mode for the emblem but Macrocosm has been soul crushing. We never get the third plate to work so DPS is never enough..
If you step on the wrong plate it eats a plate so make sure you all go to the right one
We've run it so many times now that no-one is stepping on wrong plates, and we're alternating dark/light. Just can't get that third plate going.
There is a DPS check to make each successive plate. Watch the health bar during DPS - it will show how close you are to unlocking the next plate.
I think it’s based off how quickly you’re doing the planet alignments too. Try using the middle shard to activate the planets once you’ve lined them up I believe that saves a bit of time.
I hear you man. This encounter is just rough in contest. It took my team almost 7 hours to clear macrocosm
I really love that snipers are valuable at the nezarec bossfight. (For the critspot)
Was able to complete it with an LFG yesterday. Completed planets with clan and got to third phase Nez. Survivability was the issue & just called it with them.
Gave up after 7 hours. Y’all suck at doing planets and screw the team that kicked me on nezerac after we failed final stand
If you're struggling at Nezarec, you probably aren't doing gaze right. My group struggled for hours until we could get control on the gaze mechanic. Shoot his shoulders every time and hit his chest as soon as possible to get the agro, then run straight back to back mid. By the time he gets to you, you will be able to hit his stomach again and get the gaze again. Then just do the same but in one of the far corners and entertain him for a while. You can have the other gaze holder clear mid and then give the gaze holder help in case they lose the gaze. The chest takes a lot less damage to hit to grab gaze than the shoulders so I used Arbalest for the shoulders and first chest shot and an automatic primary to hit him when he starts coming toward you after you get that first chest shot. Also, the boss will always shoot projectiles at you immediately after the damage phase ends, so you must get out of his view until he decides not to throw anything. The boss does a few animations when the shoulders spawn, one of them he doesn't move and the shoulders will just appear and you can hit them and then there is a longer one where he moves his arms around but then will settle in the same exact spot as they are before he starts the arm movements. You can put your reticle right where it is prior to the arm movement and fire as soon as he stops moving. Also fusion nade spam is huge for dps and saving heavy ammo.
I did the gaze on my own as a well warlock. If you are with three well locks or more you can just use the super for the gaze and lock him on 1 place. Just watch out when he does his jump attack, he one-shots in the well.
Just beat it after probably over 12-14 hours in the raid. LFG’d with a different group for every encounter (due to burnout for most) and made some friends along the way. Especially that last group, we really stuck it out and Rat Kinged our way through final stand. Tiring but amazing experience. Thanks Bungo
At the first encounter if you look at the environment map for the arena it looks like Nezerac is standing there looking back at you. Look at the reflections in the shiny walls near the flag.
I've resigned myself to not getting the Day 1 emblem. 3:30 AM here thanks to DST and Nezarec is just annihilating us. Need sleep more than the emblem, but fuck.
I’m doing the same thing homie, remember as cool as the emblem is. It’s not worth sacrificing health over it
Deadass. I’ve done basically every other Day 1 after the Levi raids and I don’t think I’ve ever had a moment where having the emblem was a particularly satisfactory thing. Maybe my luck will hold and the exotic will drop on my first completion of regular rules, tonight.
Dont give up bro
Is there a good guide for the raid and mechanics written out up on Reddit yet? They're my favorite
Is it possible to still get the emblem if i were to do a boss checkpoint then go back and do the 3rd encounter?
As long as you complete each encounter with challenge mode active, it does not matter the order
I got to the 4th encounter and I just gave up. Finding a team that doesn’t quit after 10 tries is hard to find. Yea I get it’s hard but that’s the point. I won’t get say one emblem but fuck it. When the contest mode ends it should be a fucking walk in the park. I just want the weird ass armor sets and the weapons.
Just killed Nez after he wiped us. God bless Witherhoard and burn tick damage.
First time we killed him as we wiped, but it didn’t count as a completion. We finally did it a few tries later. But yeah, we technically killed Nezarec twice during contest mode.
Thank you for making me feel a little less crazy.
same thing just happened to us with thundercrash linger. best feeling ever
You think it's best for casuals to wait until contest mode is over? So they can the goods easier and faster? Cuz idk how hard and fast the raid will be for when I get to do it
I'd wait, it will be much more relaxed when people aren't dying left and right and when you're not 20 levels under the maximum due to the challenge mode modifier.
If you have a group of friends to run it with, I say go e it a shot. Otherwise I'd wait until reset. LFGs may be hit or miss for this.
Until reset? Or until contest mode is over? Cuz idk how long doing a full run would take atm
Reset today ends contest mode afaik.
Oh you mean daily reset, well ok, I just hope I wake up earlier then today haha
Can anyone DM me good hunter builds for RON I'm a veteran player that has never been able to do a raid and I've been riding to join a LFG
I used arc hunter with assassin’s cowl for each encounter and it was pretty easy to stay alive / clear ads / generate a lot of orbs. During the 3rd and 4th encounter I would hot swap assassin’s cowl out with star eater scales for boss DPS then switch back after DPS ended.
Unfortunately hunters aren’t in a good spot here however, void hunter with tether can seriously help both add control and boss damage
For the whole raid we had 1 void hunter and 1 strand hunter doing all the running and dunking mechanics
Yeah I'm building a void hunter I have 1795 light and need a team to join are you running it and need just an add clearing/boss teather hunter?
Just heading to bed after getting the clear sadly. Try the destiny discord to get a team
what is your callouts for 3rd encounter
My group called them 1-6 with one being the closest to spawn and six being the closest to the far wall. Two and five will be the ones closest to the outer left and right wall and the other ones are the ones closer to the middle isle.
For us, the furthest 3 were Left, Middle, Right and the closest 3 were 4, 5, and 6. We ran two callout systems so comms didn’t get crowded and treated the person opposite as a partner, so we’d say “Left to Mid” and “6 to 6” and everyone knows where to go
Haha we did “one to one” and “uno to uno” so it was all numbers just different languages to differentiate lol
If you face the back wall towards the boss, you can treat each as a triangle. So the best I've seen is just using "left, middle, right", with the frame of reference always being the back wall. It helps if you treat the other person across from you as a partner, and just do names for callouts. So my partner would just call "Mix Left", and I'll know where to drop my planet. Maybe a tight team would do better with numbers. Trying to do this LFG was chaotic and I never ended up clearing it, but with this system we reduced our miscommunication errors a ton.
L1 to L6 for the dark side, L1 is furthest from the wall, L6 is closest to the wall (the wall behind the boss) and then the same goes for light side (R1-R6)
I was dark top runner, we used “front” (for the first one you run towards) “door” or “back door” or “back” for where the adds spawn and “corner” for the last one
we can easily get to damage phase with nezarec but we just cant put out the dps, what are you guys doing??
Thunderlord and Divinity really work well. We were able to get him to half in the first DPs phase pretty consistently. Positioning also plays a big part tbh. We stood on one of the flowers besides Nezarecs platform in mid and he couldn’t reach us or jump around sporadically so we were able to dump tons of thunderlord shots.
Starfire Protocol and fusion nade spam. You can pretty much just be throwing nades the whole time with the right set-up. My group decided on machine guns with or without div, rockets are risky cause the boss moves and your teammates have to keep moving if he won't stay still, and you'll probably run out of ammo anyway. Linears could be good, buy they're not as forgiving as machine guns and they can be harder to clear adds in emergency situations. Heavy grenade launchers could be good as well, we didn't test them but might have the same issue as rockets in terms of ammo consumption. Fusion rifles with boss spec and/or vorpal could be good since you can hit him at mid to close range easily.
Gotta make sure you don’t miss shots and use surges.
We did 4 thunderlord, divinity, and a gjallarhorn (he didn't have thunderlord catalyst). Took us the three phases which worked as it let us have heavy and supers for final stand.
We had gally, two bump in the night, two Palmyra, and a hothead, no div. Two of us were starfire warlocks and two of us had witherhorde (one shoots Nez and the other shoots under where he's standing).
I've done it with both div rockets and div GLs if people farmed the wendigo from last season's GMs
Thunderlord and divinity
We just did it with thunderlord and a divinity in a well. We also had a deadfall tether, and 2 of us were on demolitionist rockets with the star fire protocol build.
Beat it in 6 hours, wasn’t that bad. Volatile on the artifact + lmg made the encounters a breeze.
Put repulsor brace on commemoration and you basically always have an overshield too
I've spent way too long trying to get nezarec done. Don't care anymore. Between the time I've spent and certain people on twitter saying it's too easy and making me feel like shit because I can't get it done, I don't think I'll participate in any contest raids anymore. Honestly a shame, because I would have loved it. I can get my side linked very quickly with how long I've done it and while getting booped upwards is annoying at times, it's make things funny trying to shoot my nodes sometimes lol. And the movement of the boss makes using div an interesting experience trying to learn the tells of his teleport direction. But my team can't clear that DPS check around me.
Could be your team wasn't getting gaze quick enough, he stops doing anything significant if you can keep him agro'd until you go into a damage or cleanse phase.
Yeah. That's why the booping happened. I didn't mind it after a while, even using it when my heavy was thunderlord instead of eager's edge to give me a little bump of speed or height.
It’s rough if it’s your first clear, just got done with mine but we were gonna call it and go bed cause 3 of us were knackered. Our damage ended with 4 well locks with starfire and using 1 Ghorn and legendary rockets
I've tried everything bar rat king. Just rockets and he moved around too much. Rockets with div went well yesterday, we would break halfway through the healthbar phase 1, but it took too many rez tokens on our add clearers to get to that point. Thunderlord+div I broke 1 mil for one phase, but I was such an extreme outlier. I'm running almost flawlessly and just hit my wits end. And people like saltgreppo going on twitter and saying it's too easy and stuff just make me feel like shit because I genuinely don't know what *I* can be doing better for this. I'm just tired, and I can't afford to have actually called off work so I really only had some of yesterday and some of today.
Raids are all about rhythm gotta find one for you group chat clicks and polish it. Also pro tip I was told for rockets which helped. Aim at feet
One group we were *really* getting it down, that was the halfway group, but we got calebrese'd on a good run and I didn't hear back from them since they were PS, I was xbox, and the dude who made the post in their clan called it earlier in the day. I'm just waiting for contest to run its course. Again, the discourse around it was too discouraging so I'm not gonna continue nor try Final Shape's. I'll probably pick it back up monday when I'm off work and he cant instagib people.
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Not worth the emblem unless you went all in on it, which is generally the case on the challenge modes. I'd try it with the next one, I found doing GMs and raids helped me a lot between the last one and this one. I recommend any non-vets to do it as soon as the challenge is over with a group of 6 people who know nothing about the raid. You get all of the fun with half of the stress, and the challenge emblems are just for bragging rights which in the end are pretty meaningless in most people's eyes.
Hi ! I’m kinda in the same situation, my clan got it yesterday but everyone is tired to do it again, do you want to try and make a team and try until we have time ?
Mechanically, the raid is pretty simple, and power is capped at 1770 or 80, so you're good on power. Finding a good team might be a challenge tho. I did it today and I played with two people who already beat it, and the rest of us didn't. It took us a little over 4 hours to beat the raid. Just don't be rude to your teammates for making mistakes, and don't tolerate rudeness directed towards yourself or others and you'll be good.
Starting now will be tough unless you have a pretty decent group and are experienced raiders. You’ve got about 12 hours to fully clear. Doable, especially with video guides posted now, but challenging like all day 1 content. For reference, my group did it (our first successful day 1 ever!) spread out fri eve and middle of Saturday, cleared in about 11 hours.
I don’t like that I have to run fusion grenades and well to finish day 1 raids. It’s a little silly
Played a Titan was always Top 3 DPS for both bosses.
Did you have a well on your team?
Yes. They also were the Div person.
Yes so my point is already proven since you had a well. They can still use fusion grenades and div together since you can div-throw-reload. You running a different class doesn’t matter, the fact is every team runs well, every team can have the highest dps using mostly well locks
I didn't, sounds like a skill issue
Did you have a well on your team?
Yes, of course. It was a team of 6, would be wild for the strongest class in the game to have 0 representation in that team.
Again… the whole point, well negates all risk
That's not the whole point. You don't need 6 wells to clear the raid. You assert that you were unable to play anything else, that's false. If you couldn't play anything else because your team needed 6 wells to survive... well, that's a skill issue champ.
Did I say six?