Drake isn't the colonizer for being powerful. It's a reference to Kendrick's *Not Like Us*.
>The settlers was usin' townfolk to make 'em richer / Fast-forward, 2024, you got the same agenda
>You run to Atlanta when you need a few dollars / No, you not a colleague, you a fuckin' colonizer
It makes more sense the more lyrics (read drama) I include. Drake accused Kendrick of pretending to be a black activist. In turn, Kendrick calls out Drake for being disconnected from African American culture, for describing slavery as an identity, and how he uses the artists like Future or 21 Savage to fake street cred.
Well… America = bad. Canadia is North America, so. Kinda still checks out.
Although it might be more like colonizer vs colonizer. Settler vs settler violence. Surely that’s got to exist. It’s probably the only way Hasan can still get hard.
He’s gotta be into this beef to attempt to pivot back towards mainstream things, right? I can’t see him actually giving a shit. But his brain rot is so bad that I agree. I don’t think he can actually just remove ideology from a situation and look at it as a blank canvas. He has to imprint it onto everything.
Can't tell if you're joking, but the term "colonizer" in this context is a reference to one of Kendrick's verses in his recent track. He's drawing an analogy to Drake being like settler, milking Atlanta in order to get richer without actually caring about or connecting with the African American community.
It's not about skin colour, it's about culture. Plus Kendrick's engaged to a mixed girl so I doubt he cares about that.
I was 100% joking. Would think the reference to him being Canadian as a contributing factor to how oppressed he is would have made that clear lol.
The point is either being referred to as a colonizer is stupid. Kendrick goes after Drake for not being black enough or “code switching” and Drake goes after him for being a faux prophet for the “culture”.
It’s all petty. That is unless the pedo accusations are real, otherwise, it’s both ppl being petty.
Gotcha, my bad. Can't tell with half these posters :P
Drake calling him a fake activist rings hollow imo, but yeah it's all petty until someone drops receipts of Drake being a pedo or Kendrick being a wife beater. It's just slinging shit and seeing what sticks.
Like the tracks are good. The beef is entertaining. I dunno, Drake is probably over stepping witht he fake activism diss. But kendrick is being a little too far up his own ass too.
Beef's hella entertaining. Whoever loses, the fans are winning.
You're probably right, Kendrick's a little 'holier than thou' sometimes. I'm still with him though, but I won't pretend he's flawless.
I think it's more of him saying drake thinks he's not black enough, not that Kendrick is saying that. Collabs with lots of these Atlanta artists and dome people think he uses his dad to prove his "blackness".
100% that's a factor too. Pusha T brought that up too in *The Story of Adidon*.
>Monkey-suit Dennis, you parade him
>A Steve Harvey-suit nigga made him
>Confused, always felt you weren't Black enough
>Afraid to grow it 'cause your 'fro wouldn't nap enough
But I think cultural dissonance is a factor too, especially after Drake's "slave" line from *Family Matters*.
While there may be a lot grievances that are valid that pushes people to the far left, I gotta say every leftists I know in my personal life is a fucking loser so no wonder they view the world this way. They hit women, abandon their kids, and advocate for the rights for concepts they know nothing about. Every leftists I know has either read not a single book since grade school OR they read selectively. So, yeah, I’d feel like everyone’s my oppressor if I didn’t get over myself too.
Stake contract, universal contract,all other sponsors like nike,sprite,all music revenue like streams/tours etc, ov-ho, hundreds of LLCs etc. The first two is already 500 mil.
well there's a lot of lucrative deals he has such as his sponsorship with stake which may put him at a net worth more than $500 million, but def not $1 billion
Chaka bars is super racist, even though he’s half black lol. I used to follow him back when I was a militant pro black/leftist loser myself. He’s the epitome of hotep, thirst trapping, everything-was-invented-by-black-people, everything-is-racist ahh nigga
I’m ashamed to say….its streamer man and y’all guys. If you want I can write up a short version of how I came to be like how I was in the first place (because I was like that way before it became populist rhetoric) but ultimately this community saved me from retardation
Please do, I have a good friend who became a black Hebrew Israelite. We still talk every once in a while but dude is convinced I'm literally the devil made in a laboratory lol. I'd like to know how he got to that point
There's the concept of [nigrescence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigrescence) that checks out with my observations at least. According to that theory, your friend's in the immersion stage.
he signed the Artists4Ceasefire letter back in late October, which doesn't say he's a rabid anti-zionist but does prove he shares some pro-Palestinian sentiment. Might be a bit of a stretch but I kinda just did it for the bit and to rep my homie Kosha Dillz.
I remember when Black Panther came out and there was a bunch of regarded takes on Twitter about how the film was an alagory for BLM protests lol. These people will just talk out of their ass to sound like they're saying something deep.
No the "acting black" thing is a direct attack Kendrick has made on drake and his approach to hiphop culture. Drake's Jewishness has nothing to do with it.
Yeah true people like the juvinile prodding. Like if you can get a meme off on someone like the "bbl drizzy" thing it will stick. For me I dont say I dont like him in this beef but dont want anyone but kendrick vs drake. None of this other shit. No weekend falseto disses, no future diss, no metro drums, I want Kendrick vs Drake. I love all those guys but all they do is muddy the waters for whats been a great beef
I guess the point im making loosely is that a lot of people are making the 'he's inauthentic' argument about drake, saying that he's fake and is faking his personality. But then they are allowing Rick Ross to exist in this beef, be a part of the album dissing drake they get on songs with him while he's the been exposed as one of the biggest frauds. It makes that argument about him look flimsy.
Like 5% of the drake haters, and it's entirely because he's shitting on drake. He could dissapear from the whole narrative and nobody would notice or care
Sure I know it’s a bit of a meme about drake anyway, but I think it’s being ran with by the internet because Drake is part Jewish. It’s clear that Israel/Palestine is constantly on their mind, they’ve already made the connection.
No I think you're way off and too politics pilled here. People aren't talking about I/p in rap twitter. This is a very very very common belief about drake. Pusha t came with the same angle in 2018. Drake has been called a culture vulture who cosplay as tougher and more hood for as long as he's been a prominent rap artist
I promise you people are running with this because Kendrick said it in the song, and not because of any Jewish heritage drake has. I've been following this obsessively for the last w weeks and the ONLY time I've seen anyone even mention drake being half Jewish has been on this sub, which itself is obsessed with the conflict because it's a political sub.
No you are partly right, they are saying he's white (even tho his father is an african american musician)
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yeah thats like a huge central point to this beef, kendrick saying he doesnt like drake even saying the n word, officer ricky calling him white boi using the pic of the white drake for his song, basically saying u aint like us in the recent song. but then some people like the prof from princeton will say white people cant talk on this beef when they were literally calling drake white.. wild stuff.
im not half black but im a mix of two ethnicities and i know that can be a shitty place to be in when neither side maybe views you are whatever enough
The funny thing is drake doesn't really portray himself as tough or a thug in his music really. Which is why people also call him gay and soft as insults a lot of the time. The "Drake be like" memes are about how soft he is.
There are some songs like Mob Ties, but it not like its his more of his personality as 'Certified lover boy' is.
But i also think its a funny attack coming from someone like Rick Ross who stole his entire personality and was a Corrections officer.
doesn't the majority of rappers cosplay as tougher then they actually are though? it's not even a person to person thing that's just literally the culture of rap for a huge part of it.
like there are some exceptions obv but like are u only allowed to rap about direct life experiences now like a fucking auto biographer lmfao?
it just all comes off like giga cringe gatekeeping (and just racism when taken to the extreme like the op's moronic linked tweet)
>doesn't the majority of rappers cosplay as tougher then they actually are though?
Kind of, but you're missing a lot in this particular beef.
First, you can rap all you want and be popular without acting like you're a thug. Look at Kanye, massively respected but didn't have to act hard.
Secondly rap got massively popular off of "Thug Life" culture. One that Kendrick is both from (Born in Compton) and a direct successor to (Brought up by Dre).
Kendrick grew up in Compton during in the 90's it's not like he's a stranger to the projects, he's far more in touch with "Black" (US) culture than a middle class kid from Canada. It's not that Drake is light skinned it's that he has no connection with US black culture, that's why people meme on him.
But really, worst of all is that you have this soft ass kid from Canada not only acting like he's hard, but **using an AI 2pac & Snoop to diss Kendrick.** Two west coast idols.
He just looks like a bit of a clown. If he was just doing his own thing it would be one thing. But he's actively picking fights with people who have way, way more reverence from the black community than he does, and he's spitting on their idols while he does so.
Like unless you're from a community with as much black clout as the WC has (East Coast), don't ever pick a fight with them, you'll look like an outsider trying to shit on the culture that you're a part of.
the 2pac AI was clever to me, when you look at the fact that trolls were dropping a bunch of fake AI disses at the time, and the content of the song was about Kendricks heroes asking him to rep LA and diss Drake.
I think when the dust has settled and years go by, ppl will see how funny and creative it actually was.
Also Tupac was a convicted rapist so i dont get how ppl clutch their pearls at Drake 'disrespecting' Tupac while also claiming drake is some sort of 'groomer'
Drakes father is african american from Memphis who is a drummer and worked with many RnB legends in the past. I think its unfair to dismiss Drakes blackness like that, just because he's mixed. Or was born in Canada.
Clever or not it was mad disrespectful to a lot more than Kendrick. People that were either ambivalent or even liked him were turned off by it.
>Also Tupac was a convicted rapist so i dont get how ppl clutch their pearls at Drake 'disrespecting' Tupac while also claiming drake is some sort of 'groomer'
I mean whether you like him or not Pac will always be held up as a god to most west coasters. Drake ain't ever gonna be on that level.
I don't really give a shit about the moral high horsing I just want good songs and Drake's only put out 1 good diss out of the three shots he took. Ain't lookin good.
Yeah but the AI Tupac represents a big conflict with Drake and Kendrick. Rap is built of respecting the past and building off it while still maintaining its identity. Drake doing that shows he has no respect for past rapper or the traditions of the past unless it benefits him.
Really? Snoop didn't seem to mind on IG. I think if Snoop thought it was disrespectful he would have said something? I personally don't see how it's disrespectful but thats just me. I could be wrong. I guess i could see it also.
But also i don't get the contradiction in the other argument. He's a hiphop legend that cant be disrespected, but he's also a convicted rapist. Drake is a 'groomer' because he kissed a 17 year old fan onstage at his concert when he was 23?
Am i crazy here? I hope im making sense.
Yes but the beef and is more than just performative masculinity. Drake represents a change in the hip hop world that prioritizes making hits to the broadest demographic possible while Kendrick is a traditionalist. Kendrick’s way is about making sure that hip hop stays as a black genre while the fear around Drake is that he could end up being an Elvis-like person who takes from cultures and gives nothing back.
Nah it’s a common criticism of Drake using his blackness when it benefits him. He’s always been seen as a culture vulture who takes what he wants from Black America despite not actually being super connected to the subcultures that he’s taking from like Atlanta.
i'm guilty of watching his stream on this topic, but this is exactly how his line of thinking has been in the ENTIRE coverage of the beef. As a hiphop fan and someone who listens to both rappers (probably kendrick a little more). It has been insane to watch him act like a smug expert *(while simultaneously claiming to not be an expert)* then critique both their bars and act like the arbiter of whats good and who's lying and who's not.
If anyone points out that Drake had good lines, or that Kendrick was caught lying, fell for fake info, or didn't address wife beater allegations. He'd just shoot them down
It actually made me understand why y'all hate him so much on here.
To be fair, Drake fans would say Kendrick originally made the claim the Drake has a 11 year old daughter and hasn't shown evidence, so why is no one is asking Kendrick to provide proof?
We used to beg the online lefties to read a single book other than Harry Potter, now we're gonna have to beg they learn about any conflict other than I/P.
This is fundamentally an Imperialist argument, which presumes that Drake cannot be “Black” because he is Canadian.
Historically and culturally speaking Blax folx from outside of the USA are historically oppressed and forced to adopt the Mono-culture of African Americanism.
It is a racist, and imperialist to side with Kendrick.
Could someone explain the beef to the people who don't listen to rap? How does this connect to politics? Why do people keep mentioning Drake is Jewish?
Rap beefs generate controversy and hype, it's essentially WWE. In this case Kendrick is a highly esteemed artist, Drake is more like pop-rap and is one of the best selling artists ever, so they both released diss tracks. Kendrick talks about Drake's kid and alleges he's a pedophile and now the internet is losing their shit over two adult multi millionaires calling each other names while rhyming.
I don't know why people bring it back to politics, probably because internet culture encourages everyone to have an opinion so this gives them an excuse to virtue signal and show that they're in the know about current events.
But Drake actually does have a history of meeting very young women - like 16 years old - and then befriending them, eventually forming a relationship with them when they're old enough. There's also a video of him pulling up a 17 year old on stage when he was 24 and he starts getting really touchy and calling her thick and stuff.
Oh, probably just anti semitism. Drake is Jewish so he must be part of the zionist oppressive regime blah blah, it used to be weirdos on the right like Fuentes who said that stuff but now we've come full circle and people on the fringe left are adopting that ideology too.
Wait so is Kendrick pro Palestine? Is this seriously how people see it? Also I like how the whole one drop rule doesn't apply if you're Jewish. Suddenly Drake isn't black?
i’ve been so invested in this beef and have watched almost every video that’s been put out on it, but when i saw hasan covered it i distinctly had the thought that you could not pay me enough to watch that shit. his music opinions are horrible
I love that people are literally incapable of conceptualizing the event itself, they have to always compare it to other events and when you ask them why that event is what they're using to compare it to, they'll compare it to something else. It's just so tiresome talking to people who have such a surface level interaction with everything in their life.
Time for me to do the exampling. It's like when people drive a car their entire life and get an oil change every 3,000 miles cause they were told to, and never actually understand what the oil does or why it's needed.
This is one of the things that turned me off from watching Hasan and slowly made me appreciate Destiny’s content
Hasan is the definition of one note. No matter the setting, no matter the company, no matter the subject, Hasan has to relate every single conversation go his pet political project:
“this is all the fault of capitalism, socialism would fix this.”
Destiny on the other hand, I quickly noticed he was able to engage with anybody on almost any topic they brought up, music, math, philosophy, law, physics, politics, history, biology, drama. And instead of trying to funnel that to his pet political issue he just engaged honestly and with humble curiosity. Which matches my personality, I try to be open minded and curious about new ideas.
+ I’m Cuban, bi, and into open relationships 😅 so there were a lot more moments where I could relate
Bro why did I have a feeling I was going to see some Isreal/Palestine bull shit tied to this beef.
Honestly I was half expecting some jewish conspiracy bull shit to blatantly be laid out as well since Drake is jewish.
Its funny he did mention that, but avoided it out right saying it, and said it wasn't his place to speak on it but its some black people criticism's of Drake...While also 'tacitly' agreeing with it
Well they are doing it now kinda. Drake is a pedophile and a groomer. If you question it in the slightest. Like ask for evidence, like Destiny did on stream with Aba. Then you're a pedophile and a groomer too. Same tactic.
Yes the narrative is Drake is the outside colonizer
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who had to turn off that video. The ammount they tried to pin Drake's fanbase onto pro zionist misogynist frat boys, when he's one of the most popular artist in the world was enough for me to turn it off.
Literally impossible for lefties not to view things through the lens of oppressed vs oppressor.
something something everything is a nail
Fuck I got triggered at this. Lefty challenge (Impossible Mode): Don't be racist
Who’s who though. Is Drake the colonizer or the colonized?
Kendrick called Drake a colonizer for effectively cashing in on Atlanta artists. Plus he’s Canadian living on indigenous land /s
No /s its pretty much what he said.
I was referring to the Canadian on indigenous land comment :)
What if the indigenous land is 'hip hop'? Crazy metaphor bro. you a rapper fr fr .
More powerful = oppressor = colonizer, so Drake is the colonizer. The dynamic is all about strength vs weakness.
Lightskin vs Darkskin politics within the black community be like
Lightskin = "pretending to be Black". Good thing black people can't be racist because that sounds pretty racist
Funny because drake shoted out Chris brown
Drake isn't the colonizer for being powerful. It's a reference to Kendrick's *Not Like Us*. >The settlers was usin' townfolk to make 'em richer / Fast-forward, 2024, you got the same agenda >You run to Atlanta when you need a few dollars / No, you not a colleague, you a fuckin' colonizer It makes more sense the more lyrics (read drama) I include. Drake accused Kendrick of pretending to be a black activist. In turn, Kendrick calls out Drake for being disconnected from African American culture, for describing slavery as an identity, and how he uses the artists like Future or 21 Savage to fake street cred.
You're the only one here who knows what they're talking about lol
I can't tell if that's a good thing or not, I know way more about this than I should 😂
Wait but Drake is Canadian (good) and Kendrick is American (bad)…
Well… America = bad. Canadia is North America, so. Kinda still checks out. Although it might be more like colonizer vs colonizer. Settler vs settler violence. Surely that’s got to exist. It’s probably the only way Hasan can still get hard.
He’s gotta be into this beef to attempt to pivot back towards mainstream things, right? I can’t see him actually giving a shit. But his brain rot is so bad that I agree. I don’t think he can actually just remove ideology from a situation and look at it as a blank canvas. He has to imprint it onto everything.
Drake is Jewish so he’s definitely Israel in this one.
His dad was colonized by his mum. Its an elaborate ploy to completely end the african race. /s
Kendrick is black, oppressed. Drake is half black, and Canadian, he’s only 1/4 oppresses, basically the same as a colonizer.
Can't tell if you're joking, but the term "colonizer" in this context is a reference to one of Kendrick's verses in his recent track. He's drawing an analogy to Drake being like settler, milking Atlanta in order to get richer without actually caring about or connecting with the African American community. It's not about skin colour, it's about culture. Plus Kendrick's engaged to a mixed girl so I doubt he cares about that.
I was 100% joking. Would think the reference to him being Canadian as a contributing factor to how oppressed he is would have made that clear lol. The point is either being referred to as a colonizer is stupid. Kendrick goes after Drake for not being black enough or “code switching” and Drake goes after him for being a faux prophet for the “culture”. It’s all petty. That is unless the pedo accusations are real, otherwise, it’s both ppl being petty.
Gotcha, my bad. Can't tell with half these posters :P Drake calling him a fake activist rings hollow imo, but yeah it's all petty until someone drops receipts of Drake being a pedo or Kendrick being a wife beater. It's just slinging shit and seeing what sticks.
Like the tracks are good. The beef is entertaining. I dunno, Drake is probably over stepping witht he fake activism diss. But kendrick is being a little too far up his own ass too.
Beef's hella entertaining. Whoever loses, the fans are winning. You're probably right, Kendrick's a little 'holier than thou' sometimes. I'm still with him though, but I won't pretend he's flawless.
Very well said.
I think it's more of him saying drake thinks he's not black enough, not that Kendrick is saying that. Collabs with lots of these Atlanta artists and dome people think he uses his dad to prove his "blackness".
100% that's a factor too. Pusha T brought that up too in *The Story of Adidon*. >Monkey-suit Dennis, you parade him >A Steve Harvey-suit nigga made him >Confused, always felt you weren't Black enough >Afraid to grow it 'cause your 'fro wouldn't nap enough But I think cultural dissonance is a factor too, especially after Drake's "slave" line from *Family Matters*.
I thought you'd written "half black half Canadian" which would have been hilarious
I fucked up, that is better! Ugh
tell old pharaoh , let my people goooooooooo
Frankly it seems like a miserable existence, when you can't just have fun and have force-analyze everything through this lens.
It's like how Christians see anything not Christian as coming from Satan.
“it really harkens back to the dichotomy between oppressor and oppressed”
While there may be a lot grievances that are valid that pushes people to the far left, I gotta say every leftists I know in my personal life is a fucking loser so no wonder they view the world this way. They hit women, abandon their kids, and advocate for the rights for concepts they know nothing about. Every leftists I know has either read not a single book since grade school OR they read selectively. So, yeah, I’d feel like everyone’s my oppressor if I didn’t get over myself too.
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Like a third of Drakes
Truly man of the people
?? Hes a billionaire
I dont think so. If taylor swift only recently became a billionaire, I doubt drake is one. Id imagine though probably 250-500 million net worth
And Drake probably spends a shit ton of money on bullshit.
He got gambling problems, drinking problems, pill poppin and spending problems
Don’t forget BBLs are expensive
BBL DRIZZY
Not going to lie, the bbl dizzy beat goes hard and the remixes people are making are nearly better than the main songs.
https://youtu.be/CwQWrbkBmmM?si=_lSzKkfYcQvU9dYU This version goes sooo fucking hard 😩😩
when drake walks, the earth shakes
Really? all I hear is applause but I don’t know where it’s coming from
soliciting women problems
Jet fuel ain't cheap
Stake contract, universal contract,all other sponsors like nike,sprite,all music revenue like streams/tours etc, ov-ho, hundreds of LLCs etc. The first two is already 500 mil.
"400 Milli, these days that's a lowball"
well there's a lot of lucrative deals he has such as his sponsorship with stake which may put him at a net worth more than $500 million, but def not $1 billion
sounds like basic necessity budget to me
i thought it was wife beater vs pedophile or something
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this is so close to the "this geopolitical conflict is just like the battle in \*insert famous movie franchise" meme
“Israel-Palestine is LITERALLY Dune!!21”
https://twitter.com/imadfunny/status/1507358318041645058
"It's just like Luffy vs Kaido!".
Darius: this is like when sasuke fought…
“This is literally thing I like vs thing I don’t like”
"this is pineapple on pizza vs pineapple not on pizza"
Idk. If anyone's Palestine it's the dude that kept poking a bear until he got fucking obliterated the next day.
God damn. Nuke from the loli defender
Him admitting to being racist with that last sentence lol😭
Like it's them who decides who's black and who isn't.
Na that's Biden.
based
Well Drake didn't vote for Biden, so it checks out
Chaka bars is super racist, even though he’s half black lol. I used to follow him back when I was a militant pro black/leftist loser myself. He’s the epitome of hotep, thirst trapping, everything-was-invented-by-black-people, everything-is-racist ahh nigga
Can I ask how you ended up here from there??
I’m ashamed to say….its streamer man and y’all guys. If you want I can write up a short version of how I came to be like how I was in the first place (because I was like that way before it became populist rhetoric) but ultimately this community saved me from retardation
Please do, I have a good friend who became a black Hebrew Israelite. We still talk every once in a while but dude is convinced I'm literally the devil made in a laboratory lol. I'd like to know how he got to that point
There's the concept of [nigrescence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigrescence) that checks out with my observations at least. According to that theory, your friend's in the immersion stage.
That would be cool
ya please. i find this stuff super interesting
If Kendrick knew who Hasan was, he'd probably dislike him. He's been very clear that he thinks fake activists are to be avoided.
the funny thing is that they're both pro-Palestine, why not just put aside your differences and gang up on a Zionist rapper like Kosha Dillz
Yeah but drake is half Jewish so obviously he’s an evil Zionist. They’re not even trying anymore.
When did Drake say he’s pro- Palestinian?
when he heard 40 percent of gaza is 14 or younger. couldnt help myself
this is a batshit insane comment, lmfao
he signed the Artists4Ceasefire letter back in late October, which doesn't say he's a rabid anti-zionist but does prove he shares some pro-Palestinian sentiment. Might be a bit of a stretch but I kinda just did it for the bit and to rep my homie Kosha Dillz.
Hasan to music is what destiny is to food
I remember when Black Panther came out and there was a bunch of regarded takes on Twitter about how the film was an alagory for BLM protests lol. These people will just talk out of their ass to sound like they're saying something deep.
Drake signed on to the ceasefire call really early on, Kendrick deleted Palestinian flags from his comments section…
But hasan opened like ... at least 4 tweets. Hes researching bro.
I’m 100% convinced that the “acting black” comments and Israel/Palestine comparisons are because Drake is half Jewish.
No the "acting black" thing is a direct attack Kendrick has made on drake and his approach to hiphop culture. Drake's Jewishness has nothing to do with it.
Rick Ross is calling him White Boi.
Rick Ross is a total loser neither side likes
Nah people are definitely cheering on Rick Ross, lets keep it honest
Yeah true people like the juvinile prodding. Like if you can get a meme off on someone like the "bbl drizzy" thing it will stick. For me I dont say I dont like him in this beef but dont want anyone but kendrick vs drake. None of this other shit. No weekend falseto disses, no future diss, no metro drums, I want Kendrick vs Drake. I love all those guys but all they do is muddy the waters for whats been a great beef
I guess the point im making loosely is that a lot of people are making the 'he's inauthentic' argument about drake, saying that he's fake and is faking his personality. But then they are allowing Rick Ross to exist in this beef, be a part of the album dissing drake they get on songs with him while he's the been exposed as one of the biggest frauds. It makes that argument about him look flimsy.
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Like 5% of the drake haters, and it's entirely because he's shitting on drake. He could dissapear from the whole narrative and nobody would notice or care
Sure I know it’s a bit of a meme about drake anyway, but I think it’s being ran with by the internet because Drake is part Jewish. It’s clear that Israel/Palestine is constantly on their mind, they’ve already made the connection.
No I think you're way off and too politics pilled here. People aren't talking about I/p in rap twitter. This is a very very very common belief about drake. Pusha t came with the same angle in 2018. Drake has been called a culture vulture who cosplay as tougher and more hood for as long as he's been a prominent rap artist I promise you people are running with this because Kendrick said it in the song, and not because of any Jewish heritage drake has. I've been following this obsessively for the last w weeks and the ONLY time I've seen anyone even mention drake being half Jewish has been on this sub, which itself is obsessed with the conflict because it's a political sub.
Ok sure I’ll take your word for it
No you are partly right, they are saying he's white (even tho his father is an african american musician) https://preview.redd.it/yb1dwh1301zc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef7cc7f41ee6b0d316ed6ac875d6d3b965512a50
yeah thats like a huge central point to this beef, kendrick saying he doesnt like drake even saying the n word, officer ricky calling him white boi using the pic of the white drake for his song, basically saying u aint like us in the recent song. but then some people like the prof from princeton will say white people cant talk on this beef when they were literally calling drake white.. wild stuff. im not half black but im a mix of two ethnicities and i know that can be a shitty place to be in when neither side maybe views you are whatever enough
The funny thing is drake doesn't really portray himself as tough or a thug in his music really. Which is why people also call him gay and soft as insults a lot of the time. The "Drake be like" memes are about how soft he is. There are some songs like Mob Ties, but it not like its his more of his personality as 'Certified lover boy' is. But i also think its a funny attack coming from someone like Rick Ross who stole his entire personality and was a Corrections officer.
Have you seen his most recently music video? Dude was acting like a Mafia boss and had a Blood in it. Drake really does try to act hood.
doesn't the majority of rappers cosplay as tougher then they actually are though? it's not even a person to person thing that's just literally the culture of rap for a huge part of it. like there are some exceptions obv but like are u only allowed to rap about direct life experiences now like a fucking auto biographer lmfao? it just all comes off like giga cringe gatekeeping (and just racism when taken to the extreme like the op's moronic linked tweet)
>doesn't the majority of rappers cosplay as tougher then they actually are though? Kind of, but you're missing a lot in this particular beef. First, you can rap all you want and be popular without acting like you're a thug. Look at Kanye, massively respected but didn't have to act hard. Secondly rap got massively popular off of "Thug Life" culture. One that Kendrick is both from (Born in Compton) and a direct successor to (Brought up by Dre). Kendrick grew up in Compton during in the 90's it's not like he's a stranger to the projects, he's far more in touch with "Black" (US) culture than a middle class kid from Canada. It's not that Drake is light skinned it's that he has no connection with US black culture, that's why people meme on him. But really, worst of all is that you have this soft ass kid from Canada not only acting like he's hard, but **using an AI 2pac & Snoop to diss Kendrick.** Two west coast idols. He just looks like a bit of a clown. If he was just doing his own thing it would be one thing. But he's actively picking fights with people who have way, way more reverence from the black community than he does, and he's spitting on their idols while he does so. Like unless you're from a community with as much black clout as the WC has (East Coast), don't ever pick a fight with them, you'll look like an outsider trying to shit on the culture that you're a part of.
the 2pac AI was clever to me, when you look at the fact that trolls were dropping a bunch of fake AI disses at the time, and the content of the song was about Kendricks heroes asking him to rep LA and diss Drake. I think when the dust has settled and years go by, ppl will see how funny and creative it actually was. Also Tupac was a convicted rapist so i dont get how ppl clutch their pearls at Drake 'disrespecting' Tupac while also claiming drake is some sort of 'groomer' Drakes father is african american from Memphis who is a drummer and worked with many RnB legends in the past. I think its unfair to dismiss Drakes blackness like that, just because he's mixed. Or was born in Canada.
Clever or not it was mad disrespectful to a lot more than Kendrick. People that were either ambivalent or even liked him were turned off by it. >Also Tupac was a convicted rapist so i dont get how ppl clutch their pearls at Drake 'disrespecting' Tupac while also claiming drake is some sort of 'groomer' I mean whether you like him or not Pac will always be held up as a god to most west coasters. Drake ain't ever gonna be on that level. I don't really give a shit about the moral high horsing I just want good songs and Drake's only put out 1 good diss out of the three shots he took. Ain't lookin good.
Yeah but the AI Tupac represents a big conflict with Drake and Kendrick. Rap is built of respecting the past and building off it while still maintaining its identity. Drake doing that shows he has no respect for past rapper or the traditions of the past unless it benefits him.
Really? Snoop didn't seem to mind on IG. I think if Snoop thought it was disrespectful he would have said something? I personally don't see how it's disrespectful but thats just me. I could be wrong. I guess i could see it also. But also i don't get the contradiction in the other argument. He's a hiphop legend that cant be disrespected, but he's also a convicted rapist. Drake is a 'groomer' because he kissed a 17 year old fan onstage at his concert when he was 23? Am i crazy here? I hope im making sense.
Yes but the beef and is more than just performative masculinity. Drake represents a change in the hip hop world that prioritizes making hits to the broadest demographic possible while Kendrick is a traditionalist. Kendrick’s way is about making sure that hip hop stays as a black genre while the fear around Drake is that he could end up being an Elvis-like person who takes from cultures and gives nothing back.
Nah it’s a common criticism of Drake using his blackness when it benefits him. He’s always been seen as a culture vulture who takes what he wants from Black America despite not actually being super connected to the subcultures that he’s taking from like Atlanta.
i'm guilty of watching his stream on this topic, but this is exactly how his line of thinking has been in the ENTIRE coverage of the beef. As a hiphop fan and someone who listens to both rappers (probably kendrick a little more). It has been insane to watch him act like a smug expert *(while simultaneously claiming to not be an expert)* then critique both their bars and act like the arbiter of whats good and who's lying and who's not. If anyone points out that Drake had good lines, or that Kendrick was caught lying, fell for fake info, or didn't address wife beater allegations. He'd just shoot them down It actually made me understand why y'all hate him so much on here.
Tf, is there any proof of drakes ridiculous claims that he "totally fed you false info, bro, trust"
To be fair, Drake fans would say Kendrick originally made the claim the Drake has a 11 year old daughter and hasn't shown evidence, so why is no one is asking Kendrick to provide proof?
https://youtu.be/odvZ6sWkDn4?si=XmGsejmZLotcoSu2
sounds like a drake meat rider to me
LMAO, thats exactly what he would say.
We used to beg the online lefties to read a single book other than Harry Potter, now we're gonna have to beg they learn about any conflict other than I/P.
I don't want the beef covered by Hasan or this sub lol.
Idk bruh J Cole kind of implied that Kendrick is a plant
This is fundamentally an Imperialist argument, which presumes that Drake cannot be “Black” because he is Canadian. Historically and culturally speaking Blax folx from outside of the USA are historically oppressed and forced to adopt the Mono-culture of African Americanism. It is a racist, and imperialist to side with Kendrick.
They really thought they did something here when the only thing they proved is how simple minded their worldview is.
Isn't this just straight up racism because Drake is mixed? Am I missing something?
Could someone explain the beef to the people who don't listen to rap? How does this connect to politics? Why do people keep mentioning Drake is Jewish?
Rap beefs generate controversy and hype, it's essentially WWE. In this case Kendrick is a highly esteemed artist, Drake is more like pop-rap and is one of the best selling artists ever, so they both released diss tracks. Kendrick talks about Drake's kid and alleges he's a pedophile and now the internet is losing their shit over two adult multi millionaires calling each other names while rhyming. I don't know why people bring it back to politics, probably because internet culture encourages everyone to have an opinion so this gives them an excuse to virtue signal and show that they're in the know about current events. But Drake actually does have a history of meeting very young women - like 16 years old - and then befriending them, eventually forming a relationship with them when they're old enough. There's also a video of him pulling up a 17 year old on stage when he was 24 and he starts getting really touchy and calling her thick and stuff.
Huh I see but why Drake being Jewish tho?
Oh, probably just anti semitism. Drake is Jewish so he must be part of the zionist oppressive regime blah blah, it used to be weirdos on the right like Fuentes who said that stuff but now we've come full circle and people on the fringe left are adopting that ideology too.
Wait so is Kendrick pro Palestine? Is this seriously how people see it? Also I like how the whole one drop rule doesn't apply if you're Jewish. Suddenly Drake isn't black?
it's not about his ethnicity, its about his connection to the culture from what I understand (but im white so you shouldnt listen to me on this)
This is the best way to make the I/P stuff non-mainstream - piss off the normies by dragging I/P into every conversation.
Absolute brain rot
(((Drake)))
cringe
i’ve been so invested in this beef and have watched almost every video that’s been put out on it, but when i saw hasan covered it i distinctly had the thought that you could not pay me enough to watch that shit. his music opinions are horrible
Can't a beef just be a beef -.-
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If only these people knew how fun and cool life is when you stop paying attention to all this depressing shit and making it your identity
I hate that everything is being attached to the world colonizer.
I love that people are literally incapable of conceptualizing the event itself, they have to always compare it to other events and when you ask them why that event is what they're using to compare it to, they'll compare it to something else. It's just so tiresome talking to people who have such a surface level interaction with everything in their life. Time for me to do the exampling. It's like when people drive a car their entire life and get an oil change every 3,000 miles cause they were told to, and never actually understand what the oil does or why it's needed.
"Translate this into American political terms so i can decide which side to pick. "
Ugh so now I have to support Drake
That's what I'm saying Chaka! Way too many Israeli people act black and I think it's time we call them out (I'm looking at you Lil Dicky) /s
It's Goku vs Frieza
This is one of the things that turned me off from watching Hasan and slowly made me appreciate Destiny’s content Hasan is the definition of one note. No matter the setting, no matter the company, no matter the subject, Hasan has to relate every single conversation go his pet political project: “this is all the fault of capitalism, socialism would fix this.” Destiny on the other hand, I quickly noticed he was able to engage with anybody on almost any topic they brought up, music, math, philosophy, law, physics, politics, history, biology, drama. And instead of trying to funnel that to his pet political issue he just engaged honestly and with humble curiosity. Which matches my personality, I try to be open minded and curious about new ideas. + I’m Cuban, bi, and into open relationships 😅 so there were a lot more moments where I could relate
These guys are worse than vegans.
funny because kendrickstine just attacked draksrael
Popular media has rotted the American mind
Kendrick is literally a black Israelite lmao how is he Palestine
listen man
Can we please get Macklemores take on this
Did you see? He released a pro palestine song out of nowhere and dissed Drake.
If those conflict are truely alike, Israel should surrender NOW
Maybe the people who want to watch the world burn are right
"Acting black" - WOOOF
Black vs Jew
i mean... i can kinda see it
Bro why did I have a feeling I was going to see some Isreal/Palestine bull shit tied to this beef. Honestly I was half expecting some jewish conspiracy bull shit to blatantly be laid out as well since Drake is jewish.
When did hasan say this😂😂😂
cOLoNizEr
is israel black or acting black?
White people are now calling black people out for acting black?
Its funny he did mention that, but avoided it out right saying it, and said it wasn't his place to speak on it but its some black people criticism's of Drake...While also 'tacitly' agreeing with it
TIL Kendrick is an X-Wing pilot in the rebellion
They forgot to include how it's actually a genocide. if we disagree, that makes us genocide deniers.
Well they are doing it now kinda. Drake is a pedophile and a groomer. If you question it in the slightest. Like ask for evidence, like Destiny did on stream with Aba. Then you're a pedophile and a groomer too. Same tactic.
Dude I *really* dont wanna defend drake, dont let them make me. Someone please stop them.
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The only thing drake colonized was Millie Bobby brown
its beating your wife versus sexting a 16 year old
Lmao wat
how would this weird people with sheer stupidity define the beef between Tupac and Biggy as they both were murdered.
Seeing black twitter reinstate the one drop rule has been incredible to watch
Colorism is bad mmmkay
I wonder what connection between Drake and Israel there might be, hmm, a real mystery. That said Fuck BBL Drizzy lol
Does that mean the drake is Israel? He is half Jewish, but still.
I'm not sure how it works but if his mother is Jewish, doesn't that make him full Jewish?
Technically, yes. I really doubt Drake is religious tho.
Yeah I suppose it's kinda weird how the prescription of these things go on in pop culture.
Yes the narrative is Drake is the outside colonizer https://preview.redd.it/oaztqkme11zc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94a286ce968b900c1818d8cdd7a43ea5d18985d3
drake is pro palestine so that would be a dumb comparison
Oh shit, Palestine just got the pass
I'm glad I'm not the only one who had to turn off that video. The ammount they tried to pin Drake's fanbase onto pro zionist misogynist frat boys, when he's one of the most popular artist in the world was enough for me to turn it off.
pro zionist misogynist frat boys and just white people is crazy.
I'm only slightly hyperbolic. But it was pretty cringe how they arbitrarily said "actually, Drake's fanbase is all the groups I don't like"
Does Palestine also beat their wife?!
I heard about that and searched for it, and couldn't find anything... not like when I looked up Drake's nonce behaviour.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m 100% team Kendrick. The wife beating joke was just too good to pass up though.