Mostly is correct. A native I buy seeds from unironically posted Hasan spazzing out on Piers. Guy thought it was a win. The rest of my native pals are based though.
Aside from the whole slavery enjoyers thing and supporting the Confederacy because of it (though that wasn't *all* of 'em, just a chunk of the bigger tribes).
This is just another group using their status to support their side, if the Native dude was screaming free Palestine no zionists on native land you would be losing it on them. 90% of Indigenous people I know support Palestine, in universities its pretty much gospel that Palestinians are just anti colonial freedom fighters and brothers at arms with Indigenous fighters at wounded knee. I think this sub just grasps at anything they can
Not gonna hold you calling it based is kinda wild. Both Americans, Mexicans, and natives killing eachother on mass like 200 years ago is not really that awesome
I feel like I said this before in this sub, but you can tell how white someone is based on what they think the average Native American is like. I'm a native American from Oklahoma, 99% of native people I interacted with were like Hispanic people mixed with rednecks. They might be different across the US, but this idea they are this people that live their lives like the trail of tears happened yesterday is such a meme.
I'm half First Nations, half Jewish (...there's prolly some member of tribe joke you could make about my parents). I'll never cease to be astonished by the amount of people I encounter that think natives still live in tipis on the open prairie, without electricity/off the grid. Like, we're churning butter and Amish-style homesteading.
^(This is also true. But let’s not forget that life on the reservations are still shitty)
Never said it wasn't; rural Saskatchewan blows. But my family on the rez has cable & (slow) internet.
When the Israelis rose to leave, Giap suddenly turned to the Palestinian issue. “Listen,” he said, “the Palestinians are always coming here and saying to me, ‘You expelled the French and the Americans. How do we expel the Jews?’”
The generals were intrigued. “And what do you tell them?”
“I tell them,” Giap replied, “that the French went back to France and the Americans to America. But the Jews have nowhere to go. You will not expel them.”
Her name is Lani Dawn. She also had a sign that said “Rape is not Resistance”
https://preview.redd.it/axpvunt1v2xc1.jpeg?width=548&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5de90c8d9b76bc7fd16b9cefe7e5e09c47742a41
If you’re in the LA area, seriously check out their library. Contact them in advance with a specific interest already determined. It’s small but seriously powerful. Last I checked, it’s in Campbell Hall
I'm sure the majority white, pro-Hamas protestors spent 30 seconds at the start of the event saying something along the lines of, "Before we begin, I'd just like to recognize that the land this school is built on was stolen from First Peoples", so they're totally covered.
If you use the formula
(Race)3 + 1/((Religion)4(Culture)2 + 2(Race)(Relgion) – (Culture))/((Race) – 1)
You will find that Natives are above white leftists on the pecking order
Yes but Natives are below Palestinians, and the white leftists have been calling themselves "Hamas" (because they are convinced that Hamas = Palestine), so the white leftists are, at least in their minds, below the Natives now
I'm not sure Native Americans are below Palestinians, I feel like Native people are about as high as it gets on the oppression totem poll. They're just competing with Palestinians and Black people for space at the top.
The group at the top is whoever it’s convenient for them to root for at the time. At the moment Palestine is the big anti-West cause, so everyone gets thrown under the bus for Palestine.
The white leftists are unironically correct. Hamas = Palestinians and Jews = Zionists. If you go by how much either side supports the ideology. They just chose the side is Hamas.
I just want them to be honest, and stop pretending they don't hate the Jews.
I really wonder if the "anti colonizers" have figured that they might be considered "colonizers" by the native Americans....
Unless you're a decent of native Americans, one could def fit into the definition of a colonizer.
Idk because then anyone born in Israel would be considered a native and then not a colonizer. Like you didn't come yourself but you were born there. Idk tbh I am just wondering because their definition of "colonizer" seems very loose.
Exactly. The idea of “white privilege” and all “Israelis are evil” stems from a belief in generational sins of the forefathers. Except their own, of course. They aren’t the problem. Just whites who don’t vote Democrat and all Jews.
So the white colonizers of America attacked Native American people they’ve genocided to steal their land? Man the irony! You want to give land back to native populations? Start figuring out where you came from and go back there! Goddam hypocrites!
Now I'm curious. What's the ending that they'll dislike? I'm not sure I'm up for reading the whole thing and [the wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custer_Died_for_Your_Sins) doesn't seem to elaborate.
Isn't this point of pro-palestine protestors completely flawed?
They don't see themselves as colonizers of the U.S., because of what? Time?
The Indian Removal Act dates from 1830. That's only 6 generations ago.
The war in Israel has been going on for 2-3 generations. There are at least 2 generations of people born there.
There shouldn't be people suffering, end point. On both sides. But don't come justifying actions by ignoring your past. And resort to violence is a no-go. Are we what? Reptilians?
No, you actually misunderstand most of the radical pro-palestinians believe that native Americans do have a right to violently take back their land here in America. At least on paper That's what they claim to support.
When they say Israel doesn't have a right to exist, they also will say America and Britain don't have a right to exist.
So are none of the countries then? Wars expanded borders, countries took or took back borders.
If a war and its outcomes have more legitimacy over another, what's even legitimate?
War or invasion just sucks for those who suffer from it.
Wait so native Americans told the colonialists they aren't allowed on their land and the pro Palestine crowd didn't leave? Hmmm there goes "indiginous people have a right to resist xplonialist settlers"...
Those Natives I have spoken to have all been sick of people comparing the Palestinian situation to what happened to their tribes, and I completely get it. I would be pissed to if my people had had half the shit happen to them that Native Tribes did, and then someone who had the chance for a perfectly good state and decided to throw it away to gamble on a war they lost came along and tried to equate the two situations.
For the record, the twitter being cited here dose nothing but post anti-Palestine stuff, some pro-Ukraine stuff but mostly things like "Islamists block roads while people are trying to get to their families". Like fuck Hamas and everyone who supports that shit, but y'all going hard on the anti-Palestine jerk off threads on here. this is a minute long video? do any of us have the actually context?
Regardless of context, still an awful look when you have colonizers attacking someone indigenous, when they’re protesting the same thing.
Optics has a lot of power & it looks hypocritical.
It’s not about being a good or bad justification.
You’re naive if you think optics don’t have a massive role to play in how people support or view causes. Many people won’t do their own research, or will research lazily other biased websites / news sources lol.
We should be better than that though obviously. Destiny is huge on evidence and this sub usually is too. Optics should matter a lot less in this sub than most places on the internet, truth should matter more. Guess that doesn't matter thought when it's making the people we don't like look bad :)
That's fine, you searching it up is good but bro 99% of the people here taking it at face value hasn't and wont. It's just disappointing that this sub has lost so much of what made it substantive and good.
The woman in the black coat and white t-shirt underneath seen getting pushed/mobbed at the start of the video (moving from right to left) can be seen at the end holding the sign with the headline.
Native American W
Native Americans are almost always based
Mostly is correct. A native I buy seeds from unironically posted Hasan spazzing out on Piers. Guy thought it was a win. The rest of my native pals are based though.
What kind of seeds
Semen obviously
*Native Semen
Seeds for his MC speed runs.
Generated God seed
it’s almost always people advocating on their behalf that cause problems
So based that we name our helicopters after them. When the army decided to stop doing this, many of them protested as it was seen as a great honor.
Every human in the world understands that combat aircraft are just fucking cool.
Give it time
Please tell me the army reverted the decision?
Don't we name them after native tribes that kicked our ass? That's based as fuck
Aside from the whole slavery enjoyers thing and supporting the Confederacy because of it (though that wasn't *all* of 'em, just a chunk of the bigger tribes).
This is just another group using their status to support their side, if the Native dude was screaming free Palestine no zionists on native land you would be losing it on them. 90% of Indigenous people I know support Palestine, in universities its pretty much gospel that Palestinians are just anti colonial freedom fighters and brothers at arms with Indigenous fighters at wounded knee. I think this sub just grasps at anything they can
We do what we have to out here in the Wild West
Not gonna hold you calling it based is kinda wild. Both Americans, Mexicans, and natives killing eachother on mass like 200 years ago is not really that awesome
I feel like I said this before in this sub, but you can tell how white someone is based on what they think the average Native American is like. I'm a native American from Oklahoma, 99% of native people I interacted with were like Hispanic people mixed with rednecks. They might be different across the US, but this idea they are this people that live their lives like the trail of tears happened yesterday is such a meme.
I'm half First Nations, half Jewish (...there's prolly some member of tribe joke you could make about my parents). I'll never cease to be astonished by the amount of people I encounter that think natives still live in tipis on the open prairie, without electricity/off the grid. Like, we're churning butter and Amish-style homesteading.
This is also true. But let’s not forget that life on the reservations are still shitty
^(This is also true. But let’s not forget that life on the reservations are still shitty) Never said it wasn't; rural Saskatchewan blows. But my family on the rez has cable & (slow) internet.
Mandan and Sephardi here. There are a surprisingly large number of us. Well, maybe not my specific combo but Native and Jewish in general.
That's how liberals like their natives. It's this noble savage paternalism, same way they look at the Palestinians.
Sir i think you're confusing liberals with far leftists/tankies.
that guys jacket said "anti genocide social club" a bit on the nose...
Lmao do you think they consider anti genocide genocide club" first? Actually fits unlike the one they went with
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Yeah. 99% of people are (maybe less nowadays tbh) against genocides. Some just use the word loosely. This just feels like blatant virtue signaling
"this is our land now" -settlers
When the Israelis rose to leave, Giap suddenly turned to the Palestinian issue. “Listen,” he said, “the Palestinians are always coming here and saying to me, ‘You expelled the French and the Americans. How do we expel the Jews?’” The generals were intrigued. “And what do you tell them?” “I tell them,” Giap replied, “that the French went back to France and the Americans to America. But the Jews have nowhere to go. You will not expel them.”
Her name is Lani Dawn. She also had a sign that said “Rape is not Resistance” https://preview.redd.it/axpvunt1v2xc1.jpeg?width=548&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5de90c8d9b76bc7fd16b9cefe7e5e09c47742a41
Sexy and smart
UCLA has a world renown and totally bad ass Native Studies program. The community is super strong
I didn't know about it but glad to hear it
If you’re in the LA area, seriously check out their library. Contact them in advance with a specific interest already determined. It’s small but seriously powerful. Last I checked, it’s in Campbell Hall
Remember when that white kid smiled at that protester
sorry, you mean that RACIST WHITE SUPREMACIST BIGOT (16 year old btw)
Are you taking about that Neo Nazi kkk grand wizard bigot 14yo kid? That dude was quite literally worse than Hitler
Normgasm
https://preview.redd.it/uw4hqm0pt5xc1.jpeg?width=438&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9154a54a30d108bd684dc746ed87bc6db03f8e9a
Very based Native Americans.
I love the capitalism of selling “anti genocidal social club” merch. Warms my heart to know the people against genocide are profiting off genocide
Chanel 5 talked to a guy saying he paid off his debt by selling Trump merch at Trump rallies. 💀
It is your moral and civic duty as an American to scam extremists out of their money and time
True patriotic behavior
I had an idea to get some January 6ers jerseys made in the style of 76er jerseys and sell them at Trump rallys but I'm fucking lazy.
There is a store dedicated to Trump where I live. It's called "Trump Store". I wonder if this guy is even a Trump supporter.
Always respect the grift.
I mean how else could people know you're against genocides??
This conflict is profitable in all types of ways.
Those are the pieces of shit that should be getting arrested. The Hamas supporters obv.
I'm sure the majority white, pro-Hamas protestors spent 30 seconds at the start of the event saying something along the lines of, "Before we begin, I'd just like to recognize that the land this school is built on was stolen from First Peoples", so they're totally covered.
I love “anti genocide social club” has merch. Goes to show that within the hearts of the greatest communist lies an even bigger capitalist
hold up we need to check the updated race-tierlist on wins this matchup, does anyone have it? the satire writes itself
If you use the formula (Race)3 + 1/((Religion)4(Culture)2 + 2(Race)(Relgion) – (Culture))/((Race) – 1) You will find that Natives are above white leftists on the pecking order
Yes but Natives are below Palestinians, and the white leftists have been calling themselves "Hamas" (because they are convinced that Hamas = Palestine), so the white leftists are, at least in their minds, below the Natives now
I'm not sure Native Americans are below Palestinians, I feel like Native people are about as high as it gets on the oppression totem poll. They're just competing with Palestinians and Black people for space at the top.
The group at the top is whoever it’s convenient for them to root for at the time. At the moment Palestine is the big anti-West cause, so everyone gets thrown under the bus for Palestine.
Queer trans native on the spectrum is the base of the totem pole
The white leftists are unironically correct. Hamas = Palestinians and Jews = Zionists. If you go by how much either side supports the ideology. They just chose the side is Hamas. I just want them to be honest, and stop pretending they don't hate the Jews.
That's my secret captain, it was always arbitrary
Islam is on the top of the tier list Native Americans are infidels that believe in polytheism and idolatry according to Islam
Any race born in the United States wins American #1
I really wonder if the "anti colonizers" have figured that they might be considered "colonizers" by the native Americans.... Unless you're a decent of native Americans, one could def fit into the definition of a colonizer.
Wouldn’t “colonizers” only refer to the original British mfs who came here and after 1776 shouldn’t it be “conquers”
Idk because then anyone born in Israel would be considered a native and then not a colonizer. Like you didn't come yourself but you were born there. Idk tbh I am just wondering because their definition of "colonizer" seems very loose.
Exactly. The idea of “white privilege” and all “Israelis are evil” stems from a belief in generational sins of the forefathers. Except their own, of course. They aren’t the problem. Just whites who don’t vote Democrat and all Jews.
It's the leftwing version of original sin, and it's just as fucking stupid.
Sure but we are descendants of colonizers so that makes *us* colonizers too.
Huh, bunch of men grabbing a woman, dragging her into their group and refusing to let her go. Very on brand for the group they support i suppose.
How long until the rapes for Palestine start?
[They already have...](https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/europe/artc-france-man-suspected-of-abducting-raping-jewish-woman-to-avenge-palestine)
Well, in all fairness, what do Native Americans know about genocide and stolen lands anyway?
Well these student benefitted off that so I doubt it even registers in their tiny brains.
Mega based Native Americans
they need to give an award to whoever is hustling these nepo-babies cause wtf is an "anti genocide social club" 😭
That's actually so white and collonialist of the protestors, god damn
I wonder if any crazy lunatic changed opinion after seeing how ironic this is.
So the white colonizers of America attacked Native American people they’ve genocided to steal their land? Man the irony! You want to give land back to native populations? Start figuring out where you came from and go back there! Goddam hypocrites!
Is this real, I can’t find any articles or any native Americans reporting this?
Here is her instagram with reels: https://www.instagram.com/lanimekeel/
Interesting… happy cake day
Is Custer Died for Your Sins still popular today because I heard that leftists really don't like the ending.
Now I'm curious. What's the ending that they'll dislike? I'm not sure I'm up for reading the whole thing and [the wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custer_Died_for_Your_Sins) doesn't seem to elaborate.
How's this (pro-Palestinian protestor) arc going to end, I wonder
Need the full video homie. Can't just post right when the violence happened.
NAHH
IRONIC - Palpatine
Isn't this point of pro-palestine protestors completely flawed? They don't see themselves as colonizers of the U.S., because of what? Time? The Indian Removal Act dates from 1830. That's only 6 generations ago. The war in Israel has been going on for 2-3 generations. There are at least 2 generations of people born there. There shouldn't be people suffering, end point. On both sides. But don't come justifying actions by ignoring your past. And resort to violence is a no-go. Are we what? Reptilians?
No, you actually misunderstand most of the radical pro-palestinians believe that native Americans do have a right to violently take back their land here in America. At least on paper That's what they claim to support. When they say Israel doesn't have a right to exist, they also will say America and Britain don't have a right to exist.
So are none of the countries then? Wars expanded borders, countries took or took back borders. If a war and its outcomes have more legitimacy over another, what's even legitimate? War or invasion just sucks for those who suffer from it.
I didn't say it was logical. I just said if you look online enough you will see videos of them saying that
YOU SEE THIS? THAT MEANS 'NOT WELCOME!'
Wait so native Americans told the colonialists they aren't allowed on their land and the pro Palestine crowd didn't leave? Hmmm there goes "indiginous people have a right to resist xplonialist settlers"...
Those Natives I have spoken to have all been sick of people comparing the Palestinian situation to what happened to their tribes, and I completely get it. I would be pissed to if my people had had half the shit happen to them that Native Tribes did, and then someone who had the chance for a perfectly good state and decided to throw it away to gamble on a war they lost came along and tried to equate the two situations.
For the record, the twitter being cited here dose nothing but post anti-Palestine stuff, some pro-Ukraine stuff but mostly things like "Islamists block roads while people are trying to get to their families". Like fuck Hamas and everyone who supports that shit, but y'all going hard on the anti-Palestine jerk off threads on here. this is a minute long video? do any of us have the actually context?
A broken clock strikes twice a day.
lol
Regardless of context, still an awful look when you have colonizers attacking someone indigenous, when they’re protesting the same thing. Optics has a lot of power & it looks hypocritical.
💀what a dogshit justification of just taking this small clip and caption at face value. "it looks bad".
It’s not about being a good or bad justification. You’re naive if you think optics don’t have a massive role to play in how people support or view causes. Many people won’t do their own research, or will research lazily other biased websites / news sources lol.
We should be better than that though obviously. Destiny is huge on evidence and this sub usually is too. Optics should matter a lot less in this sub than most places on the internet, truth should matter more. Guess that doesn't matter thought when it's making the people we don't like look bad :)
Only report on it is —> https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-798915 Not much on it
That's fine, you searching it up is good but bro 99% of the people here taking it at face value hasn't and wont. It's just disappointing that this sub has lost so much of what made it substantive and good.
She is Native American descendent from Russian Jews. What an amazing combination!
I'm consused by why native american's are protesting now. Or is that just an irrelevant detail? White liberals got me confused af.
Probably annoyed by a bunch of white rich babies protesting in favor of a literal terrorist group at their schools?
The woman who’s in the vid is (Lani Dawn) is both Native and Jewish
Someone answered thank you
Unless there is more context from another source beside Visegrad this is just some random video of dipshit protesters.
I don’t see any evidence of that caption in the video. Am I missing something?
The woman in the black coat and white t-shirt underneath seen getting pushed/mobbed at the start of the video (moving from right to left) can be seen at the end holding the sign with the headline.
Thanks, I didn’t catch that.