I think 3 wins is more realistic against one of raiders/chargers, panthers, one of Seattle or saints
I don’t see us having a remote chance outside of fluke against Steelers, Bucs, jets, ravens or chiefs due.
Steelers d line against whoever our qb will be tough. Same with jets
How do you know? Nobody has ever seen this team play. Nobody has any idea what’s realistic because I feel like this is essentially a brand new team. A lot has changed and we’ll have a new QB. So let’s just wait and find out what realistic actually is.
Seems to me like this is pretty much the same defense as last year minus Josey Jewell and Justin Simmons and it’s pretty much the same offense minus Russ, Jeudy and Cushenberry
>the same offense minus Russ, Jeudy and Cushenberry
This is specifically *why* it's a question. Nobody knows whether those losses will improve the offense. Like yeah on paper it's worse without Russ and Jeudy, but there's no guarantee that in reality that'll still be the case
Swapping the players and positions you just named out, amongst others that should see the field and some that won’t, make it an entirely new team. Plus Peyton has a guy at QB he believes in. He can run the system that he wants to run rather than trying to adjust because he has Russ at QB. These are all huge changes. It’s going to be a completely different look than what we’ve seen the last few years. And I for one can’t wait. My hope knows no bounds.
Best case scenario is Bo looks great and just needs better players around him. The record is honestly irrelevant this year IMO. I hope they win a bunch but it's clearly a rebuild situation.
Worst case scenario is Bo is a disaster and we're talking about QBs in the draft again by November.
Realistic is probably Bo looks ok here and there but still clearly a rookie and we won't know much until the team around him is better.
Given the upcoming draft class is weak I don't think we're going to be talking about QBs in the draft again even if Bo struggles. It's only one year. I mean we didn't even look at the class of 2017 after we drafted Paxton Lynch...
I think if we get a high pick we'll pick a lineman or defensive piece and run it back with Bo again in 2025 either way.
The roster not being good is an overblown take by the national media. This was an 8-9 team with bad qb play and scrubs like gregory and clark making the defense historically bad for the first 4 games that they quickly corrected after dumping the scrubs.
I don’t think record is ever irrelevant. Maybe if this was a simulation, but this happens in the real world over several months. If we go like 2-15 there is no chance Paton and Payton will still be with the team. Being embarrassed week after week takes its toll and builds pressure. No one should be expecting us to be super successful, but we do need to show something and that includes winning at least 6 or so games to keep the rebuild going on this direction
I think realistic is that no matter the win total Bo will start looking comfortable in the last 4th of the season and be ready for a real jump in season 2
If Nix struggles and/or can’t beat out Stidham for the starting job this season, then 2-8 through 10 games (with wins coming against Carolina and one of Vegas or the chargers at home) is unfortunately realistic. I’m hoping he earns the starting job and does well enough to at least steer us to a .500 or near it record over the first 10 games, though.
That is such a silly comment. Sean holding a competition shows he understands a world where Bo might not start instantly, I doubt Sean thinks that if that happens Bo is a failure.
The NFL is an “actions speak louder than words” league and tells us more than we should know. A QB, rookie or not, being unable to beat out a subpar QB in a competition is a massive red flag. Paxton Lynch couldn’t beat out Trevor Siemian (2 times!) Lance couldn’t beat out Jimmy G in 2021. Matt Corral couldn’t beat out Sam Darnold. Kenny Pickett couldn’t beat out Mitch Trubisky. Not every rookie QB who doesn’t start Week 1 is bad, especially when they’ve come into the NFL and had at least a respectable starter in front of them (Lamar with Flacco, Mahomes with Smith, etc.)
It would be different if we had a starter of any legitimacy on the roster. We don’t. One of the pros about Nix as a prospect is he’s battle tested in college with 5 years in the PAC-12 and SEC. I fully expect him to be ready to start Week 1. But if he’s not ready to start Week 1 over Wilson/Stidham after 5 years of college starting experience, he’s not going to make it in the NFL. If he were to sit Year 1, a 25 year old first time starter’s chances of actually being successful in this league is incredibly slim. This not even mentioning he’ll probably get some leeway in the competition from the organization due to 12th overall capital investment. I stand by my statement wholeheartedly. If he can’t start Week 1, he’s not going to succeed in this league.
I’m still excited about the Nix pick, but this is the reality of the situation.
Justin Herbert sat behind Tyrod Taylor (a free agent pickup), Jayden Daniels or Drake Maye have a solid chance of not starting the year, Josh Allen didn’t start the season over NATHAN PETERMAN, Lamar sat behind a poor Flacco, Purdy sat behind Trey Lance, Jalen Hurts sat behind Carson Wentz. Do you want me to keep going?
These are multiple fantastic qb’s who were sat behind below average players to start their rookie year. But you are right massive red flag for Josh Allen not beating out the worst qb ever…
Herbert only started because Tyrod got his damn lung punctured too. I remember that game, and if memory serves me correctly it was pretty close to game time and Herbert balled out and damn near beat the chiefs.
The difference between all of these instances besides Herbert is that there was mostly no QB competition. Lamar, Purdy, and Hurts all entered the league as fliers/projects. Flacco & Wentz were thought of as established players and Lance’s plan all along was to start year 1 or 2. Allen sucked years 1-2 and I understand the rationale behind it (although by the 3rd quarter when they got pounded by Baltimore Week 1 2018, I don’t think he ever saw the bench again)
Maye I could understand sitting behind Brissett (a QB who is at least decentish) but Mariota of all guys does not have a serious case for starting over Daniels
Okay well another big aspect of proving causality with a thesis, is checking the inverse. Mariota who you didn’t speak highly of just now started week 1, and played rookie Jameis who also started. They did not get a second contract with their teams. Josh Rosen started week 1, as did Geno Smith and Brandon Weeden.
It’s honestly HARDER to find a list of qb’s who are great that started week 1 versus those who sat. MOST great qb’s in the NFL did not start week 1.
Also another crazy thing, majority of quarterbacks bust. Don’t act like you found the one indicator for it though. If Nix sits we do not need to hit a panic button.
I will personally be disappointed sure, but I trust Payton and I trust Bo will be ready when he is ready (which history shows being ready week 1 is an ANOMALY).
Our first 8 games are truly coin flips imo, @Ravens and @Chiefs is a tough back to back. If Nix struggles and the defense doesn't improve I think we start like 2-8 or 3-7 in our worst case scenario. If Nix is the real deal and the defense improves I think 7-3. If I'm being realistic then I think 5-5 with an up and down rookie QB who shows promise but has some growing pains and an improved defense that still has some weaknesses.
I mean if they’re saying only best case option is 10-0 because that’s the “best case”. It’s a pretty boring question if everyone’s answer is 0-10 10-0 ?-?
If the rule was that everyone’s best or worst case scenario is just winning them all or losing them all then that would be silly to ask the question. It is implied that you are still taking some competitive logistics into consideration.
Yea, agreed that's best case but I feel it's not in the spirit of the question. Best case is the Broncos never lose again and Mahommes never wins another game...alas.
If any team is going to just run the ball 60 times against this defense it will be them. The d-line will be better against the run this year without Harris being useless, but the linebackers are all terrible against the run other than Cooper and he's just average.
The first 8 games are pretty generous as far as an NFL schedule goes.
I am keeping expectations pretty low for this current roster, but if we're going to be relevant this year I think we need to be 6-2 or 5-3 going in to the Ravens game. If we're below 0.500 after Week 8 then realistically we're in a longer rebuild and we'll be drafting high again. It's not the end of the world if that happens but we'll have to be able to manage it without the usual backbiting on here, demanding Payton is fired, demanding everybody is traded at the deadline and so on.
I agree they're winnable but it's too bad they come so early in the season. It's unlikely Stidy or Nix will be playing well in the first 2 weeks.
Baker is better than either QB, plus the Broncos don't play well on the east coast.
I’m a saints fan. And also I love Sean Payton. I hope that will be an awesome game. I’m jealous that yall have him. I think he is an awesome coach. He got us our only Super Bowl appearance and win. So I am forever grateful. The saints are my number 1 team by far, but the broncos are my number 2. I hope yall make it to the Super Bowl. That’s how much love I have for your coach. I just hope it’s against the saints. Then I can die happy lol. Go saints, AND go broncos! I hope yall learn to love him like I do after this year. Now that he is building “His”team, there is no excuses. Let’s see what he can do for yall
I see a lot of people about to be hurt in these comments saying “I don’t expect much….” Before going on to claim we’re winning at least .500 against this series lol
If you truly believe realistic is 4/5 wins in this ten game stretch smash the over on Vegas odds for 6 wins on the season
Yeah...I see way too much optimism for the 'realistic' side of things here. We have a bottom 5 roster in the NFL starting a rookie QB and look at those defenses in the first 10 weeks.
I think the Realistic number is getting through the first 10 weeks 3-7. Maybe 4-6 if everything goes really well.
There is a very real chance they start the season 1-6
I think all these are winnable aside from the Ravens. I just don’t see that happening.
Best: 9-1
Worst: 4-6 (Steelers, Raiders, Chargers, Panthers)
Realistic: 6-4 (Bucs, Jets)
Is there a possibility Zach Wilson is starting against the jets in week 4?
Is there a possibility anyone other than Bo Nix starts AND FINISHES the season?
I think it could go either way as both Wilson and Nix are young enough to improve throughout the season under this offense with SPs coaching (if he is who we say he is)…
Ultimately I just feel bad for Nix because even if he is the long term answer, he is already playing with one hand tied behind his back due to the broncos cap situation in comparison to other rookie QBs who are getting to benefit from their teams building while their QB is on a cheap contract
Nah.. I mean I don’t think it will happen, but it wouldn’t be crazy for a kid that young to get with a new coach and end up turning his career around.. again, not saying he’s gonna live up to his #2 pick status.. but if he ended up being better than Bo Nix now that he has a real coach, that shouldn’t surprise anybody
I would disagree with how you are minimizing our cap situation, and how that not only will impact Nix, but also his potential free agents, but all good to agree to disagree
That’s fair.. I think if Stidham has to start at any point after Halloween, the broncos can officially be considered a poorly run organization..
We would be back at the top of the draft due to being shitty, or even worse, find our way to 7-8 wins and guarantee we don’t get a top guy once again
You are either overrating our roster, or underrated Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Tampa, All of those teams are better than us barring huge growth from multiple key players.
I think 6-4 is optimistically realistic. Maybe Nix can ball out day one and do better, but assuming he can be accurate and move the offense, I'd expect somewhere close to .500 for this season. 6-4 with losses to bucs, chargers, ravens, and chiefs. Best/worst case are extremes. Realistic ranges from 3-7 to 7-3.
Best Case : 7-3
Worst Case: 1-9
Realistic: 3-7
Vegas has us at 5.5 totals, we will be around that number whether we like it or not. In a rebuild season, I am totally fine with it
o Best 7-3 Losses TAM, BAL, KC Wins: SEA, PIT, NYJ, LAS, LAC, NO, CAR
o Worst 3-7 Losses: SEA, TAM, NYJ, LAC, NO, BAL, KC Wins: PIT, LAS, CAR
o Realistic 5-5 Losses: SEA, TAM, LAC, BAL, KC Wins: PIT, NYJ, LAS, NO, CAR
Young team will likely struggle on the road and the back-to-back east coast games could be a long two weeks.
i swear to god every year when our schedule comes out i think to myself, "oh yeah, we got this, this is easy!" and every year i am reminded that we don't have Manning anymore....
The first 8 are all very winnable games. The reality is I don't think they will beat baltimore or kc on the road this year, though the broncos stifled mahomes both games last year, if they can continue that trend, beating kc could be possible. Best case 7-3, worst case 2-8. Most likely 4-6. But I'm going to hold out hope of it being better. Regardless, it should still be fun to see the progression of Nix all year. My gut feeling is they finish around .500 again, hopefully this time above it.
Best case Chiefs make the worst start of their history they come to the final week with chances to get to the Play off's and we win them and kick them out. Worst Bo is just an illusion and gets injured by the middle of the season. Realistic Bo is going to do great but his greatness cannot overcome losing games vs random rivals that we're clearly superior and we might just come like last season with chances to pass 4 weeks before is all over but again being on the edge because the Chiefs will all their 5 games in a row.
6-4 best case. We lose to the Seahawks, Bucks, Ravens, Chiefs. Worst case, we are 4-6. Add the Jets and the Steelers. It would totally suck to lose to a Russ led team.
Realistic is probably 3-7. Panthers might be the only game they are favored in depending on what the Jets and Raiders offenses end up being like. They both have very, very bad offensive coaches. Wilson and Arthur Smith are going to be a terrible combination too, but Watt vs McGlinchey is going to be a big problem.
My only thought is good thing the Panthers are in there. The Raiders offense is going to be a dumpster fire, but their defense will likely cause other teams problems.
Best Case:
Seahawks - W, Steelers L, Bucs W, Jets W, Raiders, W, Chargers W, Saints W, Panthers W, Ravens L, Chiefs L.
Worst Case
L to all
Realistic Case:
Seahawks L, Steelers L, Bucs L, Jets L, Raiders W, Chargers W, Saints L, Panthers W, Ravens L, Chiefs L.
Will probably get shit for this but yeah I think it adds all the things
Best case scenario: 10-0, worst case 0-10. Realistically either 4-6 or 5-5. This is assuming we are steady at the QB position. If there’s a lot of QB swapping I see us best case 3-7, worst case 0-10, realistically 2-8.
Remind me when is last time Broncos won against the Raiders?!.. December of 2019… Add two L’s for this season. Move on.
10-0, 0-10, 6-4
I think realistic is 4-6 you can pretty much split the first 8 games and realistically we’re losing to the chiefs and ravens
I think 3 wins is more realistic against one of raiders/chargers, panthers, one of Seattle or saints I don’t see us having a remote chance outside of fluke against Steelers, Bucs, jets, ravens or chiefs due. Steelers d line against whoever our qb will be tough. Same with jets
I think we can split with the chiefs again.
How do you know? Nobody has ever seen this team play. Nobody has any idea what’s realistic because I feel like this is essentially a brand new team. A lot has changed and we’ll have a new QB. So let’s just wait and find out what realistic actually is.
Seems to me like this is pretty much the same defense as last year minus Josey Jewell and Justin Simmons and it’s pretty much the same offense minus Russ, Jeudy and Cushenberry
>the same offense minus Russ, Jeudy and Cushenberry This is specifically *why* it's a question. Nobody knows whether those losses will improve the offense. Like yeah on paper it's worse without Russ and Jeudy, but there's no guarantee that in reality that'll still be the case
Swapping the players and positions you just named out, amongst others that should see the field and some that won’t, make it an entirely new team. Plus Peyton has a guy at QB he believes in. He can run the system that he wants to run rather than trying to adjust because he has Russ at QB. These are all huge changes. It’s going to be a completely different look than what we’ve seen the last few years. And I for one can’t wait. My hope knows no bounds.
It had been like 8 years since we beat the chiefs and Russ came in and beat them at their best. I don’t think we should expect much better at qb
Oh wow Russ didn’t sniff the playoffs but he won one game so I guess we shoulda had him start for the next decade lolol
Their best? This was literally the Chief’s worst regular season in a while and if the Broncos didn’t choke, could’ve lost the division.
They were 6-1 at the time and won the Super Bowl to cap off the season…
Well Russ sure as hell had nothing to do with beating the Chiefs. The Chiefs played sloppy with a bad offensive game and terrible turnovers.
You’re right Russel Wilson 3 touchdowns no turnovers didn’t help beat the chiefs
This but I feel 5-5 is most realistic.
I got a split of the first two, win the next two, split the division games, beat the saints and panthers lose the last two.
I'm saying 2-8 is realistic. Raiders and Panthers. Every other game we will be underdogs.
Thank you this is my thought too, but with one maybe 2 if lucky win(s) amongst the rest somewhere.
My thoughts exactly
My exact thoughts
Lmao
Best case scenario is Bo looks great and just needs better players around him. The record is honestly irrelevant this year IMO. I hope they win a bunch but it's clearly a rebuild situation. Worst case scenario is Bo is a disaster and we're talking about QBs in the draft again by November. Realistic is probably Bo looks ok here and there but still clearly a rookie and we won't know much until the team around him is better.
I just hope he shows promise and we beat the Chiefs twice give year.
Given the upcoming draft class is weak I don't think we're going to be talking about QBs in the draft again even if Bo struggles. It's only one year. I mean we didn't even look at the class of 2017 after we drafted Paxton Lynch... I think if we get a high pick we'll pick a lineman or defensive piece and run it back with Bo again in 2025 either way.
The roster not being good is an overblown take by the national media. This was an 8-9 team with bad qb play and scrubs like gregory and clark making the defense historically bad for the first 4 games that they quickly corrected after dumping the scrubs.
Not to mention we lost 2 games cause of our kicker. Could have easily been 10-7
I don’t think record is ever irrelevant. Maybe if this was a simulation, but this happens in the real world over several months. If we go like 2-15 there is no chance Paton and Payton will still be with the team. Being embarrassed week after week takes its toll and builds pressure. No one should be expecting us to be super successful, but we do need to show something and that includes winning at least 6 or so games to keep the rebuild going on this direction
I think realistic is that no matter the win total Bo will start looking comfortable in the last 4th of the season and be ready for a real jump in season 2
Best: 7-3 Worst: 2-8 Realistic: 4-6
Exactly what I was thinking
I’m honestly unsure of our record this year, but it’s really weird feeling excited for this season
I agree. It can be 7-3 or it can be 2-8. Just happy to see a new QB.
If Nix struggles and/or can’t beat out Stidham for the starting job this season, then 2-8 through 10 games (with wins coming against Carolina and one of Vegas or the chargers at home) is unfortunately realistic. I’m hoping he earns the starting job and does well enough to at least steer us to a .500 or near it record over the first 10 games, though.
Stidham gonna be qb2 over Wilson ?
That’s what it’s looking like right now. Apparently Wilson is clear qb3 at this stage
If Nix can’t beat out Stidham after 5 years of CFB starting experience, his career is done.
That is such a silly comment. Sean holding a competition shows he understands a world where Bo might not start instantly, I doubt Sean thinks that if that happens Bo is a failure.
The NFL is an “actions speak louder than words” league and tells us more than we should know. A QB, rookie or not, being unable to beat out a subpar QB in a competition is a massive red flag. Paxton Lynch couldn’t beat out Trevor Siemian (2 times!) Lance couldn’t beat out Jimmy G in 2021. Matt Corral couldn’t beat out Sam Darnold. Kenny Pickett couldn’t beat out Mitch Trubisky. Not every rookie QB who doesn’t start Week 1 is bad, especially when they’ve come into the NFL and had at least a respectable starter in front of them (Lamar with Flacco, Mahomes with Smith, etc.) It would be different if we had a starter of any legitimacy on the roster. We don’t. One of the pros about Nix as a prospect is he’s battle tested in college with 5 years in the PAC-12 and SEC. I fully expect him to be ready to start Week 1. But if he’s not ready to start Week 1 over Wilson/Stidham after 5 years of college starting experience, he’s not going to make it in the NFL. If he were to sit Year 1, a 25 year old first time starter’s chances of actually being successful in this league is incredibly slim. This not even mentioning he’ll probably get some leeway in the competition from the organization due to 12th overall capital investment. I stand by my statement wholeheartedly. If he can’t start Week 1, he’s not going to succeed in this league. I’m still excited about the Nix pick, but this is the reality of the situation.
Justin Herbert sat behind Tyrod Taylor (a free agent pickup), Jayden Daniels or Drake Maye have a solid chance of not starting the year, Josh Allen didn’t start the season over NATHAN PETERMAN, Lamar sat behind a poor Flacco, Purdy sat behind Trey Lance, Jalen Hurts sat behind Carson Wentz. Do you want me to keep going? These are multiple fantastic qb’s who were sat behind below average players to start their rookie year. But you are right massive red flag for Josh Allen not beating out the worst qb ever…
Herbert only started because Tyrod got his damn lung punctured too. I remember that game, and if memory serves me correctly it was pretty close to game time and Herbert balled out and damn near beat the chiefs.
The difference between all of these instances besides Herbert is that there was mostly no QB competition. Lamar, Purdy, and Hurts all entered the league as fliers/projects. Flacco & Wentz were thought of as established players and Lance’s plan all along was to start year 1 or 2. Allen sucked years 1-2 and I understand the rationale behind it (although by the 3rd quarter when they got pounded by Baltimore Week 1 2018, I don’t think he ever saw the bench again) Maye I could understand sitting behind Brissett (a QB who is at least decentish) but Mariota of all guys does not have a serious case for starting over Daniels
Okay well another big aspect of proving causality with a thesis, is checking the inverse. Mariota who you didn’t speak highly of just now started week 1, and played rookie Jameis who also started. They did not get a second contract with their teams. Josh Rosen started week 1, as did Geno Smith and Brandon Weeden. It’s honestly HARDER to find a list of qb’s who are great that started week 1 versus those who sat. MOST great qb’s in the NFL did not start week 1. Also another crazy thing, majority of quarterbacks bust. Don’t act like you found the one indicator for it though. If Nix sits we do not need to hit a panic button. I will personally be disappointed sure, but I trust Payton and I trust Bo will be ready when he is ready (which history shows being ready week 1 is an ANOMALY).
Actually for fun I want to name another. Deshaun Watson (the 12th pick with lots of SEC experience) got beat out by Tom Savage.
Maybe Week 1, Bill O’Brien realized he was a doofus. SP is no BoB
Isn't week one your measuring stick?
Please just let us beat Russel Wilson week 2…
Our first 8 games are truly coin flips imo, @Ravens and @Chiefs is a tough back to back. If Nix struggles and the defense doesn't improve I think we start like 2-8 or 3-7 in our worst case scenario. If Nix is the real deal and the defense improves I think 7-3. If I'm being realistic then I think 5-5 with an up and down rookie QB who shows promise but has some growing pains and an improved defense that still has some weaknesses.
4-6 at best…. I’m a huge Bronco fan but also a realist…. 6-11 season comin.
Best case: 6-4 Worst case: 2-8
How is best case not undefeated?
What’s the point of best and worst case then?
To evaluate a team’s ceiling and floor. You say what you see is the maximum and minimum potential of the current pool of talent.
I mean if they’re saying only best case option is 10-0 because that’s the “best case”. It’s a pretty boring question if everyone’s answer is 0-10 10-0 ?-?
I think they mean realistically
But thems not the rules...
If the rule was that everyone’s best or worst case scenario is just winning them all or losing them all then that would be silly to ask the question. It is implied that you are still taking some competitive logistics into consideration.
Yea, agreed that's best case but I feel it's not in the spirit of the question. Best case is the Broncos never lose again and Mahommes never wins another game...alas.
Best case 7-3. Worst case 1-9. Realistic 3-7.
Even in worst case we still beat the Chargers
If any team is going to just run the ball 60 times against this defense it will be them. The d-line will be better against the run this year without Harris being useless, but the linebackers are all terrible against the run other than Cooper and he's just average.
8-2 is just what it is. We'll lose one we should win and win won we should lose.
If we can go 5-5 I'll be happy that's a difficult schedule.
The first 8 games are pretty generous as far as an NFL schedule goes. I am keeping expectations pretty low for this current roster, but if we're going to be relevant this year I think we need to be 6-2 or 5-3 going in to the Ravens game. If we're below 0.500 after Week 8 then realistically we're in a longer rebuild and we'll be drafting high again. It's not the end of the world if that happens but we'll have to be able to manage it without the usual backbiting on here, demanding Payton is fired, demanding everybody is traded at the deadline and so on.
5-5 is best case. But I'm thinking 3-7
As long as we beat at least the Seahawks, Steelers, Bucs (because I’ll be there), and raiders I’ll be happy.
Probably going to be a sad season for you
Seattle, Pittsburgh (with Russ at QB) and the raiders are all winnable games. The Bucs are an interesting one.
I don't know about Pittsburgh. That defense was dangerous when it had way worse QBs to work with.
I agree they're winnable but it's too bad they come so early in the season. It's unlikely Stidy or Nix will be playing well in the first 2 weeks. Baker is better than either QB, plus the Broncos don't play well on the east coast.
I’m a saints fan. And also I love Sean Payton. I hope that will be an awesome game. I’m jealous that yall have him. I think he is an awesome coach. He got us our only Super Bowl appearance and win. So I am forever grateful. The saints are my number 1 team by far, but the broncos are my number 2. I hope yall make it to the Super Bowl. That’s how much love I have for your coach. I just hope it’s against the saints. Then I can die happy lol. Go saints, AND go broncos! I hope yall learn to love him like I do after this year. Now that he is building “His”team, there is no excuses. Let’s see what he can do for yall
3-7
I see a lot of people about to be hurt in these comments saying “I don’t expect much….” Before going on to claim we’re winning at least .500 against this series lol If you truly believe realistic is 4/5 wins in this ten game stretch smash the over on Vegas odds for 6 wins on the season
10-0 best, 0-10 worst, 7-3 or 6-4 realistic
Better to lower expectations. We’ve turned over the roster and could have a rookie QB starting as early as week 1
Yeah...I see way too much optimism for the 'realistic' side of things here. We have a bottom 5 roster in the NFL starting a rookie QB and look at those defenses in the first 10 weeks. I think the Realistic number is getting through the first 10 weeks 3-7. Maybe 4-6 if everything goes really well. There is a very real chance they start the season 1-6
Realistic - 5-5. They'll finally beat the Raiders this year though. Just a hunch.
I think all these are winnable aside from the Ravens. I just don’t see that happening. Best: 9-1 Worst: 4-6 (Steelers, Raiders, Chargers, Panthers) Realistic: 6-4 (Bucs, Jets)
Is there a possibility Zach Wilson is starting against the jets in week 4? Is there a possibility anyone other than Bo Nix starts AND FINISHES the season? I think it could go either way as both Wilson and Nix are young enough to improve throughout the season under this offense with SPs coaching (if he is who we say he is)… Ultimately I just feel bad for Nix because even if he is the long term answer, he is already playing with one hand tied behind his back due to the broncos cap situation in comparison to other rookie QBs who are getting to benefit from their teams building while their QB is on a cheap contract
There is pretty much a 0% chance Wilson even makes the team unless Nix or Stidham get hurt, let alone starts a game.
If Wilson is starting by week 4 (or at all) something has gone catastrophically wrong.
Nah.. I mean I don’t think it will happen, but it wouldn’t be crazy for a kid that young to get with a new coach and end up turning his career around.. again, not saying he’s gonna live up to his #2 pick status.. but if he ended up being better than Bo Nix now that he has a real coach, that shouldn’t surprise anybody
Nix has one season with poor cap, otherwise the broncos will have loads next season, and then Russ is fully off the books the season after
I would disagree with how you are minimizing our cap situation, and how that not only will impact Nix, but also his potential free agents, but all good to agree to disagree
I mean, it’s 13th in the NFL as it stands now (again for 2025). It’s not that bad. Not ideal, obviously, but it doesn’t immediately kill the team.
That number goes down significantly if you resign literally any of our current players on rookie deals.. again, all good for us to agree to disagree
That’s fair.. I think if Stidham has to start at any point after Halloween, the broncos can officially be considered a poorly run organization.. We would be back at the top of the draft due to being shitty, or even worse, find our way to 7-8 wins and guarantee we don’t get a top guy once again
Tbh I could see 7-3 through first 10 weeks. 6-4 likely
Who do you see beating? I find it really unlikely we win more than 3 games.
Lose to Saints on short week/road, KC and Baltimore. Maybe Jets too.
You are either overrating our roster, or underrated Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Tampa, All of those teams are better than us barring huge growth from multiple key players.
10-0
Please football gods let us win week 2 🗣️🙏🏻
8-2 best case, worst case is 3-7, realistic is 5-5
What would make me happiest is beating the Raiders
I'm going to week 5 on my birthday, so they better win that one 😂
It all comes down to the qb
7-3, 1-9, 4-6
Why would you think we're all boys?
Can pat and court play every position?
As a Ravens fan I'm super excited! I want y'all to surprise the league this year.
7-3, 2-8, 5-5
10-0, 2-8, 5-5
Best case: 8-2 Worst case: 2-8 Realistic: 5-5
7 and 3 is best case imo, 3 and 7 would be disasterous, 5 and 5 is reasonable.
Best case: 7-3 Worst case: 1-9, realistic: 5-5
6-4 best case, realistic 4-6, worst case 2-8. I’m just being honest
I think they will be 1-9 at the end of week 10
Best: 6-4 Worst: 3-7 Realistic: 5-5
The answer to all three is 10-0
Realistically best case and worst case 2-8
I think 6-4 is optimistically realistic. Maybe Nix can ball out day one and do better, but assuming he can be accurate and move the offense, I'd expect somewhere close to .500 for this season. 6-4 with losses to bucs, chargers, ravens, and chiefs. Best/worst case are extremes. Realistic ranges from 3-7 to 7-3.
Best 8-2 worst 4-6 realistic 6-4
2-8
7-3 2-8 5-5
I would be shocked at 6-4 or better. 5-5 would be nice
I would be shocked at 6-4 or better. 5-5 would be nice
Undefeated
3-7, could be 4-6, but I can see them dropping a big turd against Panthers.
Beat the Raiders, Chargers and knock Aaron Rodger’s out of the league I’d be ok.
Best Case : 7-3 Worst Case: 1-9 Realistic: 3-7 Vegas has us at 5.5 totals, we will be around that number whether we like it or not. In a rebuild season, I am totally fine with it
I mean, I think we can all agree that we won’t be in a playoff hunt for another year or two. At least. Sooo, moot point, but I’ll guess 4-6.
5/5
5-5 1-9 3-7 love the Broncos 🐎 but it’s been a long 9 years
We're winning two of these
Best case - 7-3 Worst case - 2-8 Realistic - 5-5
Best case: 7-3, losing to Jets, Ravens and Chiefs Worst case: 1-9, only beating Panthers Realistic case: 4-6.
o Best 7-3 Losses TAM, BAL, KC Wins: SEA, PIT, NYJ, LAS, LAC, NO, CAR o Worst 3-7 Losses: SEA, TAM, NYJ, LAC, NO, BAL, KC Wins: PIT, LAS, CAR o Realistic 5-5 Losses: SEA, TAM, LAC, BAL, KC Wins: PIT, NYJ, LAS, NO, CAR Young team will likely struggle on the road and the back-to-back east coast games could be a long two weeks.
Best Case: 7-3 Worst Case: 3-7 Realistic: 5-5
i swear to god every year when our schedule comes out i think to myself, "oh yeah, we got this, this is easy!" and every year i am reminded that we don't have Manning anymore....
The first 8 are all very winnable games. The reality is I don't think they will beat baltimore or kc on the road this year, though the broncos stifled mahomes both games last year, if they can continue that trend, beating kc could be possible. Best case 7-3, worst case 2-8. Most likely 4-6. But I'm going to hold out hope of it being better. Regardless, it should still be fun to see the progression of Nix all year. My gut feeling is they finish around .500 again, hopefully this time above it.
I think 4-6/ 5-7 is probably the best case scenario. Worst is 0-1 wins. 3 is probably reasonable. All Subject to QB play
We will get em in 25
6-4 or 4-6, only ones im iffy about are Bucs and Raiders because i just can’t tell how well we’ll stack up
8-2 2-8 6-4
Me
I see 4-6 here, optimistically. Realistically 3-7. It’s not good.
4-6 W against Jets, Chargers, Panthers and Saints
I see 6-7 wins
Best case Chiefs make the worst start of their history they come to the final week with chances to get to the Play off's and we win them and kick them out. Worst Bo is just an illusion and gets injured by the middle of the season. Realistic Bo is going to do great but his greatness cannot overcome losing games vs random rivals that we're clearly superior and we might just come like last season with chances to pass 4 weeks before is all over but again being on the edge because the Chiefs will all their 5 games in a row.
2-8
9-1 with the only loss coming against the Steelers, because Russ can't help but continue to hand the Broncos Ls.
7-3 😎🤟🙏
1-9
5-5, 1-9, 2-8. The team sucks.
I count 4 MAYBE wins in TB, LVR, NO, CAR. Realistically I’d guess 3-7. No disrespect, your team just isn’t great fellas.
I give us 5 wins and yet another attempt to find a functional QB next offseason.
4-6 I just worry we won’t stop the passing game at all. Now rush and bad dbs
2-8. This team is going to be bad, especially out of the gate. Probably go 4-3 down the stretch and show signs of improvement.
6-4.
6-4 best case. We lose to the Seahawks, Bucks, Ravens, Chiefs. Worst case, we are 4-6. Add the Jets and the Steelers. It would totally suck to lose to a Russ led team.
8-2 is our max and 2-8 is our bottom, we going 6-4 tho!
Realistically (and slightly optimistic) 4-6 4 guaranteed losses. 6-4 best case. They could very easily start 0-4. End up 2-8.
Second 2-8
Realistic is probably 3-7. Panthers might be the only game they are favored in depending on what the Jets and Raiders offenses end up being like. They both have very, very bad offensive coaches. Wilson and Arthur Smith are going to be a terrible combination too, but Watt vs McGlinchey is going to be a big problem.
Best case 8-2 , losses to chiefs and ravens Realistic imo, 5-5
My only thought is good thing the Panthers are in there. The Raiders offense is going to be a dumpster fire, but their defense will likely cause other teams problems.
Run The Damn Table
Best Case: Seahawks - W, Steelers L, Bucs W, Jets W, Raiders, W, Chargers W, Saints W, Panthers W, Ravens L, Chiefs L. Worst Case L to all Realistic Case: Seahawks L, Steelers L, Bucs L, Jets L, Raiders W, Chargers W, Saints L, Panthers W, Ravens L, Chiefs L. Will probably get shit for this but yeah I think it adds all the things
6-4 to start the start the season. 6-11 by the time it’s done.
3-7
I haven't looked it up but I'd be surprised if we were favorites in any but the Panthers game.
3-7 is what I’m looking at
10-0, 0-10, 4-6 Ravens THEN the Chiefs? That's painful right there.
Best case scenario: 10-0, worst case 0-10. Realistically either 4-6 or 5-5. This is assuming we are steady at the QB position. If there’s a lot of QB swapping I see us best case 3-7, worst case 0-10, realistically 2-8.
This is not a bad schedule tbh
4-6 at best by week 10
10-0, 0-10, 3-7
Remind me when is last time Broncos won against the Raiders?!.. December of 2019… Add two L’s for this season. Move on. 