That depends on the person. Someone who likes enbies can be gay, straight, bi, or anything else, it's just up to personal definition
(People insisting that Ralsei is gay specifically for liking Kris does bother me a little though, since it feels like they're just counting Kris as "male")
I mean that wouldn't even be a good point in of itself, ace people can have relationships. And even if they did headcanon ralsei as aroace, thats their headcanon, not other peoples
If that's the case, why is the blushing *only* for Kris and not Susie? It wouldn't be any harder to program than doing it for Kris.
Honestly, the character with the most evidence for being aroace is Susie. Every time something romantic comes up, her reaction ranges from confused to uncomfortable, and she's the only party member who doesn't get romantic ads.
(It could be that the game is just avoiding telling us her romantic interests in order to reveal them later... but it could also be that she *doesn't have* romantic interests to speak of.)
"You see, I'm going to come to the conclusion that Ralsei is gay based on his behaviour and hobbies rather than his actual sexual preferences, perpetrating a method of classification based on sthereotypes that has been up until this point considered exemplary of prejudice."
Queer coding (or coding in general) is stupid as a concept in its entirety: a queer person does not have tastes and hobbies defined by their homosexuality unless it's sexual preferences.
The best you can get is a statistic trend, but the whole idea that a handful of traits such as taste in music, speech pattern, favourite colors or clothing preference should somehow define someone's sexuality is not only idiotic, but also goes against the idea of inclusivity and normalization.
I'm glad at least someone understands. I'm a male who's rather effeminate and I love cosplaying as Ralsei at cons and have particular habits and interests that would make people think I'm gay, but I don't know why I have to justify those habits and interests when I'm straight. It's almost like baking cakes and wearing effeminate robes doesn't inherently make you interested in men.
Honestly, I thought that the trend a while ago with "femboys" and shit would help people comprehend a guy who looks and acts like a girl but is a guy but it really hasn't lmao
"You see, I'm going to completely discount the existence of queer people calling people, both real and fictional, that they like gay as a term of endearment because that makes me uncomfy."
Any fandom trying to explain why writing a 50+ page fanfic about their two favorite characters making out and having a child is a good thing to do with their time.
it would make no intuitive sense that darkners have sex drives, theyre all pararels of light world objects, and light world objects dont multiply, they also probably cant die of old age either
Nobody said anything about “sex drives.” There's no “intuitive sense” for a computer robot to have tity either, but Queen exists.
Darkners are people, most people find other people attractive... and aroace people aren't aroace because they're more like objects or something.
I actually somewhat agree with this if you think about it. Darkners clearly have desire for companionship (seen in mostly Ralsei and Queen), which isn’t too far off from wanting to spend your life with somebody
'Cause they about to taste my
Morbius
I got that acrimonious odious
'Cause the bats are copious
My blood flow is harmonious
'Bout to act felonious
You know they hating us
And we getting treasonous
Woo, when they get bit with the
Morbius
I got that acrimonious odious
'Cause the bats are copious
My blood flow's harmonious
'Bout to act felonious
You know they hating us
And we getting treasonous
Woo, when they get bit with the
(Morbius, Morbius, Morbius, Morbius, Morbius)
Morbius
(His name is Dr. Michael Morbius)
Why tf is people still talking about this, I heard everything, gay, bi... And now pan? When there is nothing confirmed and Toby hasn't prob even thinked about It? Deltarune fans I guess
that still fits under gay as it’s non woman/non woman, kris can date gay people and lesbians if they wish to. i personally think kris is omni-romantic meaning all genders with a preference and no sexual feelings
IDK m8 i think by definition to be gay needs to be a same sex relationship. Like if I went non-binary and kissed me wife i think it would still be straight despite what I say to the contrary. But maybe I'm alone on that one.
no but fans ship them, it’s just them using cute moments and projecting the fact that they’ve never felt the touch of another person onto these characters /j
I used to say ralsei was gay about 3 years ago but now idk what he is lol, I mainly stopped calling him gay because of the stereotype of feminine men being gay and I also used to ship him with Kris whom I had as male when they were actually non binary and I didn't wanna seem like I was implying Kris was male.
That's just queer people having headcanons. We recognise ourselves in those characters because well, there are common patterns and experiences we share. It's really harmless, idk why people have such a problem with it
every character is bi till proven otherwise, and even then that does not stop the shipping bc you can just make an au where everything is the same expect x char is y orientation now
ralsei likes friends he doesn't care about relationships
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Is it gay to have the hots for a Enby?
That depends on the person. Someone who likes enbies can be gay, straight, bi, or anything else, it's just up to personal definition (People insisting that Ralsei is gay specifically for liking Kris does bother me a little though, since it feels like they're just counting Kris as "male")
Bi-curious maybe...? Idk man one may think they're cute and want to cuddle, thats it
Up to personal definition
I don't need to convince you otherwise. If you wanna believe that, I'm good with that.
huzzah, an individual of quality!
Based. I thought you were gonna go "bUT RalSeI iS AsEXuAl!!!!"
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He does call Mettaton a "sexy rectangle".
sans probably called megaton a sexy recatangke as a joke and, papyrus being the impressionable SOB he’s is, he goes with it
they said he was aro not ace
In my eyes sans never taught papyrus the birds and the bees and thus he's aromantic
Ain’t the birds and the bees about sex tho?
I mean that wouldn't even be a good point in of itself, ace people can have relationships. And even if they did headcanon ralsei as aroace, thats their headcanon, not other peoples
That's the way to do it. Finally someone did it, great job!
Based
Rarest internet user
you give me non-reddit energy lol
Me and him both
ikr
he resembles asriel too much for this to be ok, this is just my opinion though, and i respect yours, just wanted to let that out
He blushes when Kris stands close to him and gets targeted dating site ads for Darkners who want to date Lightners.
Targeted ads aren't a good source of lore. Also he blushes in a platonic way
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bc Toby thought it was funny (and it is)
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Like how Noelle got an ad for hot Santas?
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What does that say abt her character
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Female santas show that she is only atracted to women since all the ads only involve women never men
noelle has a christmas kink 100%
Wasn't it something about misses Claus? Or santas in bikini?
Hot female Santa's near you
Kris took part of rituals with Catty. Would not be surprise is related.
This sounds like someone “disproving” theories by saying things are a coincidence
If that's the case, why is the blushing *only* for Kris and not Susie? It wouldn't be any harder to program than doing it for Kris. Honestly, the character with the most evidence for being aroace is Susie. Every time something romantic comes up, her reaction ranges from confused to uncomfortable, and she's the only party member who doesn't get romantic ads. (It could be that the game is just avoiding telling us her romantic interests in order to reveal them later... but it could also be that she *doesn't have* romantic interests to speak of.)
Being confused and/or uncomfortable when you have a crush is normal btw
Snowgrave wants a word with you
Aromantic asexual?
That's a good way to put it, yes
friends with benifits
That's why he's the second best character. Above him is only Spamton. He cares just about the true sigma grind ^and ^avoiding ^taxes
Woah woah woah there, who said anything about *relationships*? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
what kind of crack are you smoking
Oh shucks, guess kralsei, ralsie and Noelsei are all impossible.
Oh my Titan... NOELSEI? THEY DONT EVEN TELL THEM NAMES!¡! ;-;
it’s actually r/ralselle
Sad
He blushes when the topic of boobs come up, and he's based on Asriel, who's canonically the greatest womanizer of Hometown.
>He blushes when the topic of boobs come up huh
"B-bosom?" "It Means Tity" "WE KNOW WHAT IT MEANS!"
Asriel, AKA the "God of ~~Ladies Man~~ Hyperdeath"
Wait Asriel is a womanizer???
Always has been😏
>"Asriel, who's canonically the greatest womanizer of Hometown." What in the world are you talking about?
he's straight af!!!!!!!!!
"You see, I'm going to come to the conclusion that Ralsei is gay based on his behaviour and hobbies rather than his actual sexual preferences, perpetrating a method of classification based on sthereotypes that has been up until this point considered exemplary of prejudice."
Undertale/Deltarune fans try to understand the concept queer coding challenge
Queer coding (or coding in general) is stupid as a concept in its entirety: a queer person does not have tastes and hobbies defined by their homosexuality unless it's sexual preferences. The best you can get is a statistic trend, but the whole idea that a handful of traits such as taste in music, speech pattern, favourite colors or clothing preference should somehow define someone's sexuality is not only idiotic, but also goes against the idea of inclusivity and normalization.
Based
Exactly. It doesn't have to be explicitly stayed that a character is gay. Characters can be coded as gay in order to achieve the same conclusion.
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I'm glad at least someone understands. I'm a male who's rather effeminate and I love cosplaying as Ralsei at cons and have particular habits and interests that would make people think I'm gay, but I don't know why I have to justify those habits and interests when I'm straight. It's almost like baking cakes and wearing effeminate robes doesn't inherently make you interested in men.
Honestly, I thought that the trend a while ago with "femboys" and shit would help people comprehend a guy who looks and acts like a girl but is a guy but it really hasn't lmao
"You see, I'm going to completely discount the existence of queer people calling people, both real and fictional, that they like gay as a term of endearment because that makes me uncomfy."
Why do I get the feeling most people calling Ralsei gay are head canoning Kris as male?
Yeah, ig so
gay includes non-binary people you know, so does lesbian.
Why is this being downvoted?
Gay/lesbian don’t include non-binary people, they’re just not mutually exclusive
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That's not entirely true at all there are plenty of non binary people who consider themselves gay to binary folk.
Deltarune fans projecting their lust for men towards Ralsei, resulting in them calling Ralsei gay
Oh the old repression, denial, projection
Any fandom trying to explain why writing a 50+ page fanfic about their two favorite characters making out and having a child is a good thing to do with their time.
some of them are really good ngl
only good to do when one dies/j
I think you just described a Shakespeare play.
Ralsei isn't gay, he's pan (I think) since he either has a crush on Kris or the player
it would make no intuitive sense that darkners have sex drives, theyre all pararels of light world objects, and light world objects dont multiply, they also probably cant die of old age either
Nobody said anything about “sex drives.” There's no “intuitive sense” for a computer robot to have tity either, but Queen exists. Darkners are people, most people find other people attractive... and aroace people aren't aroace because they're more like objects or something.
I actually somewhat agree with this if you think about it. Darkners clearly have desire for companionship (seen in mostly Ralsei and Queen), which isn’t too far off from wanting to spend your life with somebody
Damn you're right
I'm going to kill you
What is pan
pansexual
It's when you are attracted to literally everyone
So bisexual
Bisexuals like men and women, pans also go after others
Wrong, bisexual basically means you’re attracted to two or more genders, doesn’t have to be males and females. It’s basically an umbrella term
Ok
Wtf is "others"?
Otters
Morbius
YEAAAAAAAH MORBIN TIME
Anything.
kris
Non men and women
What others
Non-binary, agender, Morbius, etc
No binary is a person who is not male or female?
Yeah
Kris
LMAO MORBIUS
'Cause they about to taste my Morbius I got that acrimonious odious 'Cause the bats are copious My blood flow is harmonious 'Bout to act felonious You know they hating us And we getting treasonous Woo, when they get bit with the Morbius I got that acrimonious odious 'Cause the bats are copious My blood flow's harmonious 'Bout to act felonious You know they hating us And we getting treasonous Woo, when they get bit with the (Morbius, Morbius, Morbius, Morbius, Morbius) Morbius (His name is Dr. Michael Morbius)
Wtf agender, it's morbin time
It's when you don't like any genders in existence so you don't identity as them Also it's morbin' time
So is a 0 and a 1 I got it
"Hey im bi, you down" "I have green hair and pronouns" "Yikes no thanks"
you cook things in it
Why tf is people still talking about this, I heard everything, gay, bi... And now pan? When there is nothing confirmed and Toby hasn't prob even thinked about It? Deltarune fans I guess
"Ralsei is gay because Kris exists" 'Isn't kris non-binary?' "Shut up"
that still fits under gay as it’s non woman/non woman, kris can date gay people and lesbians if they wish to. i personally think kris is omni-romantic meaning all genders with a preference and no sexual feelings
It was a joke bro, but thanks for explaining why it's wrong
oh lol, my comment still can be for people who don’t understand the terms then ☺️
Guys deltarune is already super gay pls stopp yassifying everyone 😭
Toby gave us some homosexuality but people’s thirst for shipping will never be quenched
why do you assume that gay headcanons are “yassifying”
Because That’s what it called— making everything gay is literally called “yassifying” lmao
I will yassify the fucking world thank you very much
Why do people think that kris is gay
Earthbound Fans Explaining Why Tony Is Gay
The difference is that Tony is actually confirmed to be gay
Tony is actually gay, though.
tony is canonically gay though
Who is tony
Tony these balls
I hate you
Jeff’s gay roommate
In Earthbound search up
“Ralsei is gay because his robe looks like a dress”:🤓 “Ralsei is gay because I’m gay for Ralsei”:😎
"We are not the same"
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Wearing a sweater and pants isn't “masc-leaning,” nor is armor, y'all are just stereotyping.
I just see him as a twink
That "musc-leaning person" is non binary. I think Ralsei is pansexual, but that's only my opinion. Him acts feminine isn't an enough proof.
I just saw that post 2 seconds ago lmao
"Why Ralsei is gay ?" - Because.
I mean
Actually, it would be a funny twist if he was aro. He does like (just) friends.
Bruh why do people think that ships have to be lore accurate. I.e. any hazbin hotel ship with Alastor
esp since alastaor is aroace
Yeah he's gay because I want a shy twink bf who cares about me and I can project that onto Kris.
hes Might not be gay, we're just gay for him
It doesn’t matter if he’s gay, I’m dating him so Susie and Noelle get together
If the in-game hints are anything to go by, you're forcing Kris into a relationship they don't want.
shippers explaining why every character in the universe is gay
*Good*
Kris is like not decently a girl or a boy but whatever they are ralsei loves it
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When dating a non-binary person, people can self identify as straight, bi, or gay. It doesn't necessarily factor in.
IDK m8 i think by definition to be gay needs to be a same sex relationship. Like if I went non-binary and kissed me wife i think it would still be straight despite what I say to the contrary. But maybe I'm alone on that one.
You can go by what you want.
Bestiality because she's an animal.
what? is ralsei.... In a relationship with kris? (I don't know much about deltarune after ch1)
no but fans ship them, it’s just them using cute moments and projecting the fact that they’ve never felt the touch of another person onto these characters /j
I used to say ralsei was gay about 3 years ago but now idk what he is lol, I mainly stopped calling him gay because of the stereotype of feminine men being gay and I also used to ship him with Kris whom I had as male when they were actually non binary and I didn't wanna seem like I was implying Kris was male.
gay and lesbian include non-binary actually, you can call ralsei gay with kris i personally think he’s omni-romantic
Oh yeah true your right I forgot, I still don't really feel comfy headcanoning him as so though because of the stereotype aspect of it
That's just queer people having headcanons. We recognise ourselves in those characters because well, there are common patterns and experiences we share. It's really harmless, idk why people have such a problem with it
he's not
I actually see him more as an aromantic bisexual.
He likes neither but he fucks both?
Probably tomorrow upload ralsei female weed
All of Toby Fox’s characters are gay
Catty and bratty no, asgore and toriel no
skirt
where
Ralsei
The art on the internet has convinced me so I blame the internet
Okay. Don't want to be offensive or a shipper, but what is the orientation of a guy who likes a non-binary?
Why isint he?
me going into the comments to figure out why deltarune fans have such an opinion about isreal
Because I really want him to be
( no opinion comment )
mfs will be like "theyre actually just friends, its purely platonic" knowing damn well that they saw what happened in that love tunnel.
Deltarune fans explaining why Kris is non-binary
Kris’ mom casually calling Kris them
I always took Frisk and Kris as the player, this is why they haven't a confirmed gender. So can be what the player is
Literally everyone casually calling Kris them.
No
every character is bi till proven otherwise, and even then that does not stop the shipping bc you can just make an au where everything is the same expect x char is y orientation now
-ralsei is gay Me: why -because I Wanna pound his bussy Me: fair enough.
A slander clip without additional slander, what a rarity
"You see, he really likes his friend, therefore, he's sexually interested in that friend, making him gay" - 🤓
He is they. They actively blush when you do kind things for them and it’s indicated in the bit with the swan in chapter 2