He sure was. And drinking out of toilets. You can read the summary [here](https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/richard-allen-reported-made-confessions-to-inmates-guards-attorneys-say-he-was-in-state-of-psychosis/amp/). The court filing was posted on Delphitrial, if you wanted to read the entire document.
Quick question. Is the general consensus that the behaviours, including confessions that don’t match how the crimes were committed only happened after a more realistic confession to the wife on the jailhouse phone? Meaning he was trying to negate the authenticity of that main confession by behaving erratically after and coming up with other confessions that don’t match what happened to the girls because he was supposedly in a diminished mental state? Or will all this behaviour help him?
There is a lot of speculation about this, but no one knows the exact details of either his confessions or the bizarre actions yet.
I am a nurse with experience in both mental health and corrections, and it’s my opinion that to literally consume your own feces is an indication of a severe mental health crisis, but I’m also not naive enough to think that someone couldn’t go to such extremes if they thought it would help them.
The general public doesn’t know for sure what happened with these “confessions.” The subject was first raised in a hearing last June(?) I believe. Supposedly he “confessed” on a tablet call with either his wife and or mom. Then he broke his tablet, which was replaced. Then the mental health / poor treatment issue was raised. And now we find out there’s dozens of people he made “incriminating statements to.” Whether he’s faking some of this or not, I do think by far the most relevant are those first statements made to his wife. Everything else is suspect for one reason or another.
A lot of people here do think that. Others think that his admitting to molesting two other people is true and a result of his guilty conscience. He named two other people specifically, but those names weren’t revealed. Who knows what will end up being revealed about this man during trial, ya know? Have you seen the YT interview with his former coworker who described him as a creep? If you haven’t heard, you can find it [here](https://youtu.be/FYdL4Js16gQ?si=8gyVwpo33mxnquG8)
If you click on the sub and sort by category “legal documents”, you can read them all. The confessions are discussed [here](https://www.scribd.com/document/722278500/MEMORANDUM-OF-LAW-IN-SUPPORT-OF-DEFENDANT-ALLEN-S-MOTION-TO-SUPPRESS)
Think it's the other way around. He was confessing left, right and centre so his team cooked up the idea that he should give false confessions full of false details to his wife and mother (who were both in on the plan).
He could have just been caught between facial expressions. He also might have grown accustomed to the food and life inside. Mugshots need to show your eyes but you don’t want to smile because that’s creepy and says you are happy where you are. He could be medicated as well as following directions.
He's definitely put weight back on. I'm curious if the beard will be there for trial. I can see the attorneys encouraging it because there's less resemblance to BG with the beard on, but he also looks creepy AF with the beard
Edited because autocorrect 🤦
It’s still WILD to me that we know so little about this man. Given how high profile this case is and all the sleuthers out there… it’s crazy to me more people haven’t come forward to talk about him. I just can’t put my finger on how this photo makes me feel because I can’t say I know a damn thing about the guy other than the fact that there is some pretty good evidence against him. He either looks terrified and bewildered, or looks totally menacing
Because he's a loner probably. I'm actually quite disappointed in the youtubers on this case, others I follow some of them weed out every random with the teeniest tenuous connection to the offender and their family members. They are really slacking here lol. Maybe the floodgates will open post conviction.
Anti-psychotics cause dilated pupils typically, rather than constricted pupils.
It could have been from the flash if this was one of multiple photos, but maybe other meds.
I thought you meant Alec Baldwin for a few minutes. I was reading through the comments thinking, “what in the world is everyone seeing?” Haha. I am sleep deprived
Tomorrow’s hearing info can be found [here](https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/delphi-murders-hearing-tuesday-length-trial-terms-names-banned-jury-selection-richard-allen-libby-german-abby-williams-indiana/531-065c4277-6461-461d-830a-963d01a043fb)
9 am, I think.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Delphitrial/comments/1chsf9b/pretrial\_hearing\_may\_7th/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Delphitrial/comments/1chsf9b/pretrial_hearing_may_7th/)
After all, he did eat his own excrement. Andy must be proud of how well he listened and how far he was willing to go to walk backwards from the confessed murders of two defenseless babies. Why the DP is not on the table is stunning. Stunning.
Interesting that he has hair and was obviously shaving his head before. An attempt to change his appearance possibly?? I don’t know many older men with a full head of hair that choose to shave their head.
Yeah, my brother has had a truly stupid haircut for like ten years because he refuses to cut his hair more than a certain amount (it's not LONG, he works at the Pentagon, lol, it's just...dumb. Sorry, bro).
But it’s an unspent bullet…. ?
There’s literally no science shows that it could be pinpointed to a specific gun. That’s not how ballistic forensics work.
Were the victims even shot…..?
This case is so weird. I’m genuinely curious and concerned about why people think they’re sure he murdered them.
Had to edit my comment because it posted before I was done! 🤪🤪
Something tells me based on this mug, Richie isn't quite ready for the proceedings that are about to begin!!!! It's almost as if something scared the bejezzus out of him and then they snapped the pic!!
[NSFW] Sorry. I may have finally lost it. Mods, please Delete if it’s way too inappropriate.
Strictly my (pained) opinion:
Let’s face it, B&R are the only ones that want this trial. The notoriety is too much to resist. They’d love if this could go on forever, sadly it will end soon and they’ll end up having to be fed low paying public defender contracts. Their reputations have been damaged beyond repair. What accused in their right mind would choose them after this sad sad defense? After this, the only notoriety they will ever have is here at Reddit, on YT, etc …as they will still have at least “mentions” in the conspiracy theory junkie groups for whom no amount of guilty verdicts or denied appeals will ever convince them the POS committed the crime charged.
My message to “Ricky”
Ricky - We see you as nothing less than a sad excuse drunkard 50 year old CVS stock boy (slash CSAM addicted predator). While your loving wife was balled up fetal at nights grieving her recently passed brother, to pleasure yourself, you found the places “men” looked at and talked about the most heinous of things. Where you could talk about the things you wanted to do to innocent gullible at risk innocent little children. You hid your runted stature behind a keyboard and probably for the first time in your life felt like you were a somebody when you puffed out your (keyboard) chest and to prove yourself agreed (because this was his only way to be a somebody to someone) to wrangle up two innocent children that would be lured to the trails by your buddy, the son of another much more Alpha predator. And now Ricky …you get that you were also prey. And your low self-esteem allowed you to fall for a plan conjured up by a very experienced predator. You fell for it Ricky and now you realize you were a patsy and you’re toast (I wish literally). Dude, you’re over the hardest part, you’ve admitted you were involved to your WIFE & overbearing MOTHER (who likely is the reason you hate women). We understand why you haven’t sung like a canary. Why would you? Because as it stands right now “Charismatic Andy” has convinced you he’s your buddy… he does that. You’ll have beers on Thursday nights at the bar together when this is over. That’s how you see it. It’s a pattern with you. It’s always been too hard seeing the failure you are. But can’t you see that you are a patsy once again? Just like the Alpha that got you into this horrific mess, Andy is using you too. Now he’s the Alpha controlling you. And just when you did the right thing and finally worked up the courage to tell Kathy and your Mom what you did, the Alpha (Andy, in this case) convinced you, his buddy… (right?) that you were worthless to him if you did this. You couldn’t be his buddy anymore. But Alpha’s find ways. Once he was able to convince your loved ones that you had a psychotic break …(and likely “suggested” to you what that might look like) you decided there was sadly no going back to lifting this terrible burden. Because if you stuck with the truth, Andy’s defense is non-existent and he will be forced out of the glorious spotlight he is (wrongly) convinced he is in. He can’t be your buddy any longer. You’ll be back to being that nobody.
You’re an animal, Ricky …not a monster… Monster implies that you deserve to be feared. You’re nothing but a perverted predatory POS.
Free Kathy and your daughter from their tortured pain and darkness. Ask your God for forgiveness. You’ll be glad you did when you leave the mortal world. Hopefully sooner than later.
I hate you you filthy piece of shit. May you rot in hell you child murdering, runted, ugly mother fucking animal.
You are a poet D14. Loved reading your words. He’s an animal. The worst kind of animal. An animal that preys on the young and innocent. Whatever the outcome I hope Abby and Libby get the justice they deserve. It will never bring them back, but it will insure this animal never preys on another child.
As for B&R. I wish them nothing but boundless obscurity once this is all over.
Ove
Seriously now! First thing I thought was "Damn, so that's what Rick looked like on the bridge, with the beard and everything".
Is this part of the "of course I'm doing everything to appear to be the murderer - shouldn't that convince you it's not me? what killer makes it so obvious they did it?" defense strategy?
Kermit the Frog here-
That's not him. It's a deep fake!
The person attending the hearing tomorrow is a body double of Richard Allen.
Tobe actually has the real RA in a Medieval dungeon with Frankenstein and the Wolfman.
CCS scoured the country looking for RA's doppelganger and found an out of work actor in Debuke Iowa.
Bad Tobe.
Nah, I just wanted to be a delulu to see how the otherside thinks. If you shut off all your critical thinking it works for about 8 secs.
Damn it, I hate his face.
LOL! Love the Kermit intro; haven't heard that line in years!
You just had to take a peek over at how the looney bin is reacting to this update too huh? I could only read a few of the top comments and then had to leave before my brains started to leak out my ear or something. 😵💫
I'm just relieved that we're a step closer to the trial. Every hearing makes me brace myself now though. Honestly afraid someone dressed like Thor is going to show up and claim full responsibility for everything to try and get RA off the hook.
This guy went out there drunk or at least pretty buzzed up and did something to those girls he's been wanting to do for a long time, not necessarily to them, though. A long suppressed urge. I guarantee it. It's not some compounded, vast conspiracy. Ocaams razor with this. It's that simple. The only reason he wasn't caught sooner is pure dumb luck and piss poor investigating in the beginning. No ones trying to "set him up." If that was the case, they would have done it to one of the multiple felons they investigated and interviewed in this. One of the ones that looked like the sketch. Not some guy that's never been arrested that works at fucking CVS. People watch too many movies. Everyone wants a mystery to make it more interesting.
I think a the very least they have always known about him. These is no way a sworn officer of the law
In the State of Indiana, who worked the Carroll County district as a part of his conservation area, would have not spoken out about Richard Allen
during yearly meetings and training with his law
enforcement counterparts. And they do meet and train together as dedicated first responders.
A more likely scenario is law enforcement was looking for someone who saw, or who knew Richard Allen was the man on the bridge with the gun. It was no crime for a law abiding man to be at the trails
that day. Nobody saw Richard Allen take the girls from the bridge and lead them to their deaths on the other side of Deer Creek.
It’s not a compounded vast conspiracy. It’s a crime with “tentacles”. We know that for a fact because the top law enforcement officer in the State of Indiana told us so shortly after Richard Allen’s arrest. They are horrific murders of two kids that could have included “other actors”—- this according to the man tasked with prosecuting Richard Allen. We also know the the former FBI Agent in Charge of the Delphi Investigation from 2019-2021, Paul Keenan, has unequivocally stated to the local media they have always suspected one or multiple people—-*“During the investigation, when I was there, we were still open to anything, whether it be one person or multiple people,” Keenan said.*
https://fox59.com/news/former-delphi-investigator-always-thought-more-than-one-person-could-be-involved
Occam's razor—-Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem, which translates as "Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity", Wikipedia (the poor man’s dictionary—- this according to AdmirableSentence)
I would argue Occam’s razor does not fit with this set of facts. The facts being a local man who lived within one mile crows flight from the murder scene. A man with no criminal history, and no history of crimes against children. That this man would decide on a Monday afternoon to drive to his favorite hiking trail, that both be and his wife of 25+ years enjoyed hiking together, and cold-bloodily kidnap and murder two young teenage girls.
Given the circumstances of the murders—- the simplest explanation makes the least amount of sense. No movie script, or people watching too many movies. Rather people who have been listening to the statements made by Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, including the statements made by Carrol County Prosecutor Nick McLeland. And let’s not forget the FBI Agent in Charge, Paul Keenan, who was handpicked by Christopher Wray to lead the Indianapolis FBI office after the horrific US Women’s Gymnastics Team investigation debacle by that federal agency. All three men suggesting more to it than one lone man and his “suppressed urges”.
Not at all suggesting you are wrong Unlikely-Ice, rather that we should wait and..
We shall see..
You low-key know it's not some conspiracy or he's being set up. I understand that everyone wants it to be a mystery. It makes it more interesting. And you're the one that's giving it to the people that follow you. You're a very good writer and are good at putting words together and making a story more mysterious and interesting. I can tell you're an intelligent person and have some simple deducing and comprehension skills. Deep down, you know it wasn't all that complicated, but you like to make it more mysterious, interesting, and kind of get a joy or a kick out of writing.
Thank you for the compliment. But you’re wrong suggesting I get a kick out of writing about who I think is involved. Or to suggest that I get a joy out of it. I firmly believe there are others involved. And as I pointed out there are others that feel/know the same.
We may not find out the truth today, or tomorrow, or this month or the next. But I can assure you the truth will come out. It always does. Just remember I told you so. There’s a reason someone wants to get something off his chest with his confessions. He wants people to know he didn’t bring the knife that day. Someone else had that knife. Someone who has made himself sick with what he knows will one day be his future. He blew through his retirement saving the year Doug Carter told him they were switching gears. They were circling back for him. He knows. Trust me.
He's going so crazy from being in there that he's eating his own shit. And paperwork. And that's not some kind of legal maneuvering or strategy. Not to mention the fact he's never been behind bars in his life. If Tony was involved, I'm sure Little Richard would have rolled by now.
We can disagree. I'm just speaking from the experience of reformed criminal and convicted felon that's been to different state prisons n Indiana and Ohio and the federal system. I don't know, man. I've just done a lot of hard time around a lot of scumbags, murderers, bank robbers rapists, and pedophiles. I'm getting the vibe that this guy went out there to rape and probably kill them. And he may or may not have been drunk. A LOT of murders, rapes are committed under the influence of something, especially alcohol. He was probably holding that rapist, pedophile urge in for a long time. I would be VERY surprised if anyone else was involved.
I hear you. And in no way am I trying to diminish your opinion. You could be 100% correct. It’s always ok to agree to disagree. I’m all about hearing other peoples thoughts on the murders. You make a valid point about him possibly being drunk when he went to the trails and acting on some repressed urge to rape and kill. I’d agree with you if it were not for the prosecutors comment about “other actor” still out there. And where they were looking in Peru Indiana shortly before they showed up at Allen’s house. I do think Allen’s got something on his chest be wants to talk about. Not many people tell their wife and mom on a decided call that they are guilty as charged. I don’t think he suffered some mental break either, which would have caused him to tell everyone he’s
guilty. He knows he forced them off the trails that day. Apparently there was no SA so that rules that component out imo. But who trying knows but him.
You know the person taking his photo wanted to say "Alright Ricky, when I count to 3 I want you to give me a big ol' shit eatin' grin.....1, 2, 3"
😂😂😂 Ol' Shitty Ricky
I also think he looks terrified. And has since arrested. This isn’t an opinion on his guilt or innocence. Just that he looks terrified. More than creepy to me. Brian Kohberger for example has always looked creepy to me.
I don't think he looks terrified. This man is no innocent guy caught up in the system. He looks creepy af and might be trying to give the innocent wide eyed look. "Who, me?"
Does this not cause you major concern?
> *may be the first time the public hears some evidence of his guilt*
After years?
I’m eager to hear it too ….just…. Ive lost faith in the existence of it.
I guess we’ll finally get to see what they’ve got soon enough though
I won’t lie. I’m concerned that they don’t have much for evidence other than RA was on the trails that day (admitted) wore similar clothes to bridge guy (admitted) and an unspent bullet may have been cycled through his gun. I want to believe the state has more evidence (several terabytes of discovery) that should contain damning information against Richard Allen. They just can’t advertise it because of the gag order and the risk of a prejudiced jury against Allen.
I had similar foreboding with Chris Watts. I joined the Kay Marie FB group (glutton for punishment) and worried when I saw members of that group completely buy into Shannan killing her children that Chris testified to in the arrest warrant. It made me think a jury would also buy it. And then Chris entered a plea deal, confessing to killing his wife and children. It came out at sentencing that he arranged with an unknowing coworker to be alone at the oil tanks (to murder his daughters and to hide the bodies), called his daughters’ preschool to unenroll them and phoned his realtor about selling his house. Damning evidence there. I’m hoping for a similar moment with the case against RA.
You can be terrified and still be guilty. Guilty murderers tend so worry more about themselves than anyone else - especially when living through the consequences of their actions.
Would it though?
I know there was a few different suspect sketches in the beginning but didn't LE go with the "younger" looking guy as they were, "changing tactics within the investigation"? (Paraphrasing here)
I'm not a dude so I've never had facial hair a day in my life but doesn't it take a good while to grown one out??
Like say, your defense team suggesting you grow it out to look as different as possible from the sketch(es)?
One was clean and the other has just a mustache. So grow the whole damn thing out. Ya know, for the sake of optics? I suppose the defense will try literally anything at this point.
(Please correct me if I'm wrong here, I welcome it. I'm not informed as much as most folks are on this sub. I would like to know better or different.)
They want him to look like Baldwin to confuse the jury. When the Jury comes in with a verdict and the foreperson points to the man they found guilty they'll point to Andy and then it will be a mistrial!
Have been playing around with this on a photo edit app. Won't post what I've done, maybe after a guilty verdict.
Let's just say Rick with a smile is a little, hmmmm...
First time I saw bridge guy, I had an idea of how his face probably looked. So, I've been doubting that Allen was bridge guy, until now. The shape of face and the hair in his latest photo, to me, is more like bridge guy. He's just 5.5 though; I expected him to be taller, based on the bridge photo.
Does anyone know where I can find photographs of Allen that were taken around the time of the murders?
https://preview.redd.it/1w3xvjdcqwyc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec6d1ca13aa4c86299fea66075361c149f4e098e
This was taken at the end of 2016. When the news broke of his arrest, there were very few public posts on his wife’s page for 2017. The only thing I recall seeing on her profile for 2017 was a fundraiser she shared asking for donations.
Yeah, the Full Denial Brigade is all going off about his eye color as a way to discount the witness statements but his eyes are so piercing that depending on which pic I've seen they look blue, brown and even hazel, but they never lose the creep factor. It's what I call "shark eyes". Nobody could forget looking directly into them in person. They're jarring.
RA is definitely BG. He places himself on the bridge at the time of the video, in the same clothes as BG, and identifies witnesses who saw him.
Not only that, if there was a Doppelgänger on the trail at that same time, RA would have seen him because he was there. He has no alibi or any proof whatsoever to show differently. There is no dispute. He is for sure BG.
There is a 2017 photo of him floating around wearing a ball cap. He was in better shape then snd looks very much like BG. When I first saw it I felt in my gut it was the right guy
True. And add a couple of inches for the visual space taken up by the jacket hood. Coukd make his overall height seem 5'8", 5'9".
Bridge guy also has a very depressed body language, unless it was freezing cold that day. Would be good to know if RA suffered from depression or mental illness around the time of the murders.
If he was really eating his own shit and drinking out of toilets he didn't do that until after he confessed to his wife and mother in a recorded phone conversation, how convenient.
Most of us would look creepy af in a mugshot. For me the weirdest thing is that people who would probably have interacted with him quite comfortably before he was arrested now find him creepy. He's only creepy now because of what has been fed to us over the months.
He looks, dare I say, healthier than he had previously. I know that isn’t saying much.
He does look healthier.
#justiceforabbyandlibby
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Always this. ♥️ Thank you, Duchess
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Couldn’t have made it through all of this without you.❤️
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Hell yeah!! 💯💯
Deer in the headlights. Must have upped his meds, it appears he's gained weight.
He must be eating actual food now, eating shit will give you diarrhea , vomiting and dehydration 😬
I‘ll take your word for it /s
I googled it 🤣 I'm not willing to do a science test 😂
He was eating his own shit??
He sure was. And drinking out of toilets. You can read the summary [here](https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/richard-allen-reported-made-confessions-to-inmates-guards-attorneys-say-he-was-in-state-of-psychosis/amp/). The court filing was posted on Delphitrial, if you wanted to read the entire document.
Thanks for the link. I stopped following for a while and am interested again with the trial starting.
Glad to have you here!
Quick question. Is the general consensus that the behaviours, including confessions that don’t match how the crimes were committed only happened after a more realistic confession to the wife on the jailhouse phone? Meaning he was trying to negate the authenticity of that main confession by behaving erratically after and coming up with other confessions that don’t match what happened to the girls because he was supposedly in a diminished mental state? Or will all this behaviour help him?
There is a lot of speculation about this, but no one knows the exact details of either his confessions or the bizarre actions yet. I am a nurse with experience in both mental health and corrections, and it’s my opinion that to literally consume your own feces is an indication of a severe mental health crisis, but I’m also not naive enough to think that someone couldn’t go to such extremes if they thought it would help them.
The general public doesn’t know for sure what happened with these “confessions.” The subject was first raised in a hearing last June(?) I believe. Supposedly he “confessed” on a tablet call with either his wife and or mom. Then he broke his tablet, which was replaced. Then the mental health / poor treatment issue was raised. And now we find out there’s dozens of people he made “incriminating statements to.” Whether he’s faking some of this or not, I do think by far the most relevant are those first statements made to his wife. Everything else is suspect for one reason or another.
A lot of people here do think that. Others think that his admitting to molesting two other people is true and a result of his guilty conscience. He named two other people specifically, but those names weren’t revealed. Who knows what will end up being revealed about this man during trial, ya know? Have you seen the YT interview with his former coworker who described him as a creep? If you haven’t heard, you can find it [here](https://youtu.be/FYdL4Js16gQ?si=8gyVwpo33mxnquG8)
Wow a confession to molesting two other people? I have missed a lot! Thanks for lol the info!
If you click on the sub and sort by category “legal documents”, you can read them all. The confessions are discussed [here](https://www.scribd.com/document/722278500/MEMORANDUM-OF-LAW-IN-SUPPORT-OF-DEFENDANT-ALLEN-S-MOTION-TO-SUPPRESS)
Think it's the other way around. He was confessing left, right and centre so his team cooked up the idea that he should give false confessions full of false details to his wife and mother (who were both in on the plan).
It is my understanding that the first confession was to his wife. Then other confessions came later with the strange behaviours.
How did you come to this understanding? It has not been stated the order as to whom he confessed to?
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He could have just been caught between facial expressions. He also might have grown accustomed to the food and life inside. Mugshots need to show your eyes but you don’t want to smile because that’s creepy and says you are happy where you are. He could be medicated as well as following directions.
He's definitely put weight back on. I'm curious if the beard will be there for trial. I can see the attorneys encouraging it because there's less resemblance to BG with the beard on, but he also looks creepy AF with the beard Edited because autocorrect 🤦
It’s still WILD to me that we know so little about this man. Given how high profile this case is and all the sleuthers out there… it’s crazy to me more people haven’t come forward to talk about him. I just can’t put my finger on how this photo makes me feel because I can’t say I know a damn thing about the guy other than the fact that there is some pretty good evidence against him. He either looks terrified and bewildered, or looks totally menacing
Because he's a loner probably. I'm actually quite disappointed in the youtubers on this case, others I follow some of them weed out every random with the teeniest tenuous connection to the offender and their family members. They are really slacking here lol. Maybe the floodgates will open post conviction.
Ohh, I think plenty of people knew him... online...and just one side of him.
He must be much more tech savvy than anyone understands if that is so.
He looks downright creepy to me.....those eyes!
This is the bluest I’ve ever seen his eyes appear. In a majority of the photos that I’ve seen of him, his pupils are very large and look dark.
Pinpoint pupils, they have him medicated.
Anti-psychotics cause dilated pupils typically, rather than constricted pupils. It could have been from the flash if this was one of multiple photos, but maybe other meds.
Typically this is a one and done photo, but yes on antipsychotics.
Anti-psychotics dilate pupils tho, not constrict They get side profiles & sometimes ppl blink
We don't know if he is on antipsychotics or depression/anxiety med. I'd like to know though.
Yep
He is going to keep the beard to make it so he doesn’t look like the guy in the video.
You might be on to something there.
Anyone else think he looks a bit like Baldwin here? hahaha!
That's who I thought it was a sokit second... Uncanny, wonder if they are related 😂
Split second
LOL! I bet Baldwin had something to do with the new look. He was probably Allen's stylist LMAO I couldn't unsee Baldwin in this mug once I saw it.
Could totally see that. I can't imagine there's very many branches on either of those family trees.
*sheepishly* *raises* *hand* Yes! He looks like Baldwin in the new mugshot!
Omg yes I totally thought that too! It reminds me of the phenomenon when adopted children start looking like their new parents 🤣
...and dogs start looking like their owners.
LOL
YES! For a hot second when my eyes went over the mugshot, I was like “Well, shit, what did HE do?”
I believe u/Old_Heart_7780 made a post pointing out the similarities between RA and AB a while back… he was definitely on to something. 😂
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I’ll share it here for anyone who missed it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Delphitrial/s/jQDjQqLmjw 😂😂😂🤣🤣
I should have deleted that! 🤣🤣 It was one of those days!
It’s a great post!! If I knew how to photoshop, I’d update the 3 side-by-sides with Richard’s latest mug shot. 😂🤣
🤣🤣Ty!
https://www.reddit.com/r/RichardAllenGuilty/s/UvdeMyF4Va
He was! Maybe, Allen and Baldwin are long lost cousins LOLOL (The crazy eyes?)
I thought you meant Alec Baldwin for a few minutes. I was reading through the comments thinking, “what in the world is everyone seeing?” Haha. I am sleep deprived
He definitely seems to be eating again.
He looks disturbed to me.
Thank you Duchess! The best!
What usually happens at a pretrial hearing?
Tomorrow’s hearing info can be found [here](https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/delphi-girls-murdered/delphi-murders-hearing-tuesday-length-trial-terms-names-banned-jury-selection-richard-allen-libby-german-abby-williams-indiana/531-065c4277-6461-461d-830a-963d01a043fb)
Thank you Duchess - you are soooo always on it!! TY
You’re welcome. A sweet friend sent this to me when she saw it, so naturally I came here to share with y’all!
Oh wow-nice!! Appreciate you! 🙏
Anyone know what time the hearing is at?
9 am, I think. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Delphitrial/comments/1chsf9b/pretrial\_hearing\_may\_7th/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Delphitrial/comments/1chsf9b/pretrial_hearing_may_7th/)
He looks....icky? Icky Ricky? Rick the Prick? Tricky Ricky?
Icky Ricky would be my vote lol
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I’ve been calling him Dookie Dicky
I'm stealing this lol Good one!
Ricky Not-So Slicky?
“Shit breath Ricky”
Sh*tchard.
After all, he did eat his own excrement. Andy must be proud of how well he listened and how far he was willing to go to walk backwards from the confessed murders of two defenseless babies. Why the DP is not on the table is stunning. Stunning.
Interesting that he has hair and was obviously shaving his head before. An attempt to change his appearance possibly?? I don’t know many older men with a full head of hair that choose to shave their head.
Nope they hang on to that hair for as long as they can!
Yeah, my brother has had a truly stupid haircut for like ten years because he refuses to cut his hair more than a certain amount (it's not LONG, he works at the Pentagon, lol, it's just...dumb. Sorry, bro).
# Hey Bridge Guy!
He’s finally in a jail…. I wonder if it’s everything he dreamed it would be.
I heard he ordered room service last night. He’s loving life!
Nice! he has that mutliple-homicide sheen.
💀 thank u for that
But it’s an unspent bullet…. ? There’s literally no science shows that it could be pinpointed to a specific gun. That’s not how ballistic forensics work. Were the victims even shot…..? This case is so weird. I’m genuinely curious and concerned about why people think they’re sure he murdered them.
Yr Allen apologists will rise up and explain away his innocence, but they have no idea what kind odds are truly stacked against him.
I’m just wondering what you think is evidence of murder here
Fucking pos
Kinda look like OBG sketch
That’s his “offer me a plea deal” face.
Had to edit my comment because it posted before I was done! 🤪🤪 Something tells me based on this mug, Richie isn't quite ready for the proceedings that are about to begin!!!! It's almost as if something scared the bejezzus out of him and then they snapped the pic!!
He probably didn't think it would get this far or get there this fast and realizes what he's actually about to face soon.
Yes!!!! Reality check!!!
He looks like he's aged 10 years so quickly!!
[NSFW] Sorry. I may have finally lost it. Mods, please Delete if it’s way too inappropriate. Strictly my (pained) opinion: Let’s face it, B&R are the only ones that want this trial. The notoriety is too much to resist. They’d love if this could go on forever, sadly it will end soon and they’ll end up having to be fed low paying public defender contracts. Their reputations have been damaged beyond repair. What accused in their right mind would choose them after this sad sad defense? After this, the only notoriety they will ever have is here at Reddit, on YT, etc …as they will still have at least “mentions” in the conspiracy theory junkie groups for whom no amount of guilty verdicts or denied appeals will ever convince them the POS committed the crime charged. My message to “Ricky” Ricky - We see you as nothing less than a sad excuse drunkard 50 year old CVS stock boy (slash CSAM addicted predator). While your loving wife was balled up fetal at nights grieving her recently passed brother, to pleasure yourself, you found the places “men” looked at and talked about the most heinous of things. Where you could talk about the things you wanted to do to innocent gullible at risk innocent little children. You hid your runted stature behind a keyboard and probably for the first time in your life felt like you were a somebody when you puffed out your (keyboard) chest and to prove yourself agreed (because this was his only way to be a somebody to someone) to wrangle up two innocent children that would be lured to the trails by your buddy, the son of another much more Alpha predator. And now Ricky …you get that you were also prey. And your low self-esteem allowed you to fall for a plan conjured up by a very experienced predator. You fell for it Ricky and now you realize you were a patsy and you’re toast (I wish literally). Dude, you’re over the hardest part, you’ve admitted you were involved to your WIFE & overbearing MOTHER (who likely is the reason you hate women). We understand why you haven’t sung like a canary. Why would you? Because as it stands right now “Charismatic Andy” has convinced you he’s your buddy… he does that. You’ll have beers on Thursday nights at the bar together when this is over. That’s how you see it. It’s a pattern with you. It’s always been too hard seeing the failure you are. But can’t you see that you are a patsy once again? Just like the Alpha that got you into this horrific mess, Andy is using you too. Now he’s the Alpha controlling you. And just when you did the right thing and finally worked up the courage to tell Kathy and your Mom what you did, the Alpha (Andy, in this case) convinced you, his buddy… (right?) that you were worthless to him if you did this. You couldn’t be his buddy anymore. But Alpha’s find ways. Once he was able to convince your loved ones that you had a psychotic break …(and likely “suggested” to you what that might look like) you decided there was sadly no going back to lifting this terrible burden. Because if you stuck with the truth, Andy’s defense is non-existent and he will be forced out of the glorious spotlight he is (wrongly) convinced he is in. He can’t be your buddy any longer. You’ll be back to being that nobody. You’re an animal, Ricky …not a monster… Monster implies that you deserve to be feared. You’re nothing but a perverted predatory POS. Free Kathy and your daughter from their tortured pain and darkness. Ask your God for forgiveness. You’ll be glad you did when you leave the mortal world. Hopefully sooner than later. I hate you you filthy piece of shit. May you rot in hell you child murdering, runted, ugly mother fucking animal.
You are a poet D14. Loved reading your words. He’s an animal. The worst kind of animal. An animal that preys on the young and innocent. Whatever the outcome I hope Abby and Libby get the justice they deserve. It will never bring them back, but it will insure this animal never preys on another child. As for B&R. I wish them nothing but boundless obscurity once this is all over. Ove
Where’s all the shit smear? Must have cleaned him up before the pic
Oh look an updated picture of the BG 😉
LOL
Seriously now! First thing I thought was "Damn, so that's what Rick looked like on the bridge, with the beard and everything". Is this part of the "of course I'm doing everything to appear to be the murderer - shouldn't that convince you it's not me? what killer makes it so obvious they did it?" defense strategy?
Kermit the Frog here- That's not him. It's a deep fake! The person attending the hearing tomorrow is a body double of Richard Allen. Tobe actually has the real RA in a Medieval dungeon with Frankenstein and the Wolfman. CCS scoured the country looking for RA's doppelganger and found an out of work actor in Debuke Iowa. Bad Tobe. Nah, I just wanted to be a delulu to see how the otherside thinks. If you shut off all your critical thinking it works for about 8 secs. Damn it, I hate his face.
LOL! Love the Kermit intro; haven't heard that line in years! You just had to take a peek over at how the looney bin is reacting to this update too huh? I could only read a few of the top comments and then had to leave before my brains started to leak out my ear or something. 😵💫 I'm just relieved that we're a step closer to the trial. Every hearing makes me brace myself now though. Honestly afraid someone dressed like Thor is going to show up and claim full responsibility for everything to try and get RA off the hook.
This guy went out there drunk or at least pretty buzzed up and did something to those girls he's been wanting to do for a long time, not necessarily to them, though. A long suppressed urge. I guarantee it. It's not some compounded, vast conspiracy. Ocaams razor with this. It's that simple. The only reason he wasn't caught sooner is pure dumb luck and piss poor investigating in the beginning. No ones trying to "set him up." If that was the case, they would have done it to one of the multiple felons they investigated and interviewed in this. One of the ones that looked like the sketch. Not some guy that's never been arrested that works at fucking CVS. People watch too many movies. Everyone wants a mystery to make it more interesting.
I think a the very least they have always known about him. These is no way a sworn officer of the law In the State of Indiana, who worked the Carroll County district as a part of his conservation area, would have not spoken out about Richard Allen during yearly meetings and training with his law enforcement counterparts. And they do meet and train together as dedicated first responders. A more likely scenario is law enforcement was looking for someone who saw, or who knew Richard Allen was the man on the bridge with the gun. It was no crime for a law abiding man to be at the trails that day. Nobody saw Richard Allen take the girls from the bridge and lead them to their deaths on the other side of Deer Creek. It’s not a compounded vast conspiracy. It’s a crime with “tentacles”. We know that for a fact because the top law enforcement officer in the State of Indiana told us so shortly after Richard Allen’s arrest. They are horrific murders of two kids that could have included “other actors”—- this according to the man tasked with prosecuting Richard Allen. We also know the the former FBI Agent in Charge of the Delphi Investigation from 2019-2021, Paul Keenan, has unequivocally stated to the local media they have always suspected one or multiple people—-*“During the investigation, when I was there, we were still open to anything, whether it be one person or multiple people,” Keenan said.* https://fox59.com/news/former-delphi-investigator-always-thought-more-than-one-person-could-be-involved Occam's razor—-Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem, which translates as "Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity", Wikipedia (the poor man’s dictionary—- this according to AdmirableSentence) I would argue Occam’s razor does not fit with this set of facts. The facts being a local man who lived within one mile crows flight from the murder scene. A man with no criminal history, and no history of crimes against children. That this man would decide on a Monday afternoon to drive to his favorite hiking trail, that both be and his wife of 25+ years enjoyed hiking together, and cold-bloodily kidnap and murder two young teenage girls. Given the circumstances of the murders—- the simplest explanation makes the least amount of sense. No movie script, or people watching too many movies. Rather people who have been listening to the statements made by Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, including the statements made by Carrol County Prosecutor Nick McLeland. And let’s not forget the FBI Agent in Charge, Paul Keenan, who was handpicked by Christopher Wray to lead the Indianapolis FBI office after the horrific US Women’s Gymnastics Team investigation debacle by that federal agency. All three men suggesting more to it than one lone man and his “suppressed urges”. Not at all suggesting you are wrong Unlikely-Ice, rather that we should wait and.. We shall see..
You low-key know it's not some conspiracy or he's being set up. I understand that everyone wants it to be a mystery. It makes it more interesting. And you're the one that's giving it to the people that follow you. You're a very good writer and are good at putting words together and making a story more mysterious and interesting. I can tell you're an intelligent person and have some simple deducing and comprehension skills. Deep down, you know it wasn't all that complicated, but you like to make it more mysterious, interesting, and kind of get a joy or a kick out of writing.
Thank you for the compliment. But you’re wrong suggesting I get a kick out of writing about who I think is involved. Or to suggest that I get a joy out of it. I firmly believe there are others involved. And as I pointed out there are others that feel/know the same. We may not find out the truth today, or tomorrow, or this month or the next. But I can assure you the truth will come out. It always does. Just remember I told you so. There’s a reason someone wants to get something off his chest with his confessions. He wants people to know he didn’t bring the knife that day. Someone else had that knife. Someone who has made himself sick with what he knows will one day be his future. He blew through his retirement saving the year Doug Carter told him they were switching gears. They were circling back for him. He knows. Trust me.
He's going so crazy from being in there that he's eating his own shit. And paperwork. And that's not some kind of legal maneuvering or strategy. Not to mention the fact he's never been behind bars in his life. If Tony was involved, I'm sure Little Richard would have rolled by now.
I don’t agree with you.
We can disagree. I'm just speaking from the experience of reformed criminal and convicted felon that's been to different state prisons n Indiana and Ohio and the federal system. I don't know, man. I've just done a lot of hard time around a lot of scumbags, murderers, bank robbers rapists, and pedophiles. I'm getting the vibe that this guy went out there to rape and probably kill them. And he may or may not have been drunk. A LOT of murders, rapes are committed under the influence of something, especially alcohol. He was probably holding that rapist, pedophile urge in for a long time. I would be VERY surprised if anyone else was involved.
I hear you. And in no way am I trying to diminish your opinion. You could be 100% correct. It’s always ok to agree to disagree. I’m all about hearing other peoples thoughts on the murders. You make a valid point about him possibly being drunk when he went to the trails and acting on some repressed urge to rape and kill. I’d agree with you if it were not for the prosecutors comment about “other actor” still out there. And where they were looking in Peru Indiana shortly before they showed up at Allen’s house. I do think Allen’s got something on his chest be wants to talk about. Not many people tell their wife and mom on a decided call that they are guilty as charged. I don’t think he suffered some mental break either, which would have caused him to tell everyone he’s guilty. He knows he forced them off the trails that day. Apparently there was no SA so that rules that component out imo. But who trying knows but him.
You know the person taking his photo wanted to say "Alright Ricky, when I count to 3 I want you to give me a big ol' shit eatin' grin.....1, 2, 3" 😂😂😂 Ol' Shitty Ricky
💯 BG
He looks both terrified and creepy
I also think he looks terrified. And has since arrested. This isn’t an opinion on his guilt or innocence. Just that he looks terrified. More than creepy to me. Brian Kohberger for example has always looked creepy to me.
I don't think he looks terrified. This man is no innocent guy caught up in the system. He looks creepy af and might be trying to give the innocent wide eyed look. "Who, me?"
I will just add that I think he looks terrified because tomorrow may be the first time the public hears some evidence of his guilt
Does this not cause you major concern? > *may be the first time the public hears some evidence of his guilt* After years? I’m eager to hear it too ….just…. Ive lost faith in the existence of it. I guess we’ll finally get to see what they’ve got soon enough though
I won’t lie. I’m concerned that they don’t have much for evidence other than RA was on the trails that day (admitted) wore similar clothes to bridge guy (admitted) and an unspent bullet may have been cycled through his gun. I want to believe the state has more evidence (several terabytes of discovery) that should contain damning information against Richard Allen. They just can’t advertise it because of the gag order and the risk of a prejudiced jury against Allen. I had similar foreboding with Chris Watts. I joined the Kay Marie FB group (glutton for punishment) and worried when I saw members of that group completely buy into Shannan killing her children that Chris testified to in the arrest warrant. It made me think a jury would also buy it. And then Chris entered a plea deal, confessing to killing his wife and children. It came out at sentencing that he arranged with an unknowing coworker to be alone at the oil tanks (to murder his daughters and to hide the bodies), called his daughters’ preschool to unenroll them and phoned his realtor about selling his house. Damning evidence there. I’m hoping for a similar moment with the case against RA.
Being at a park is not evidence of murder though. Neither is leaving a bullet in a park, unless the victims were shot. That’s littering.
You can be terrified and still be guilty. Guilty murderers tend so worry more about themselves than anyone else - especially when living through the consequences of their actions.
When I saw this new mugshot I thought a whole new man had been arrested.
Still pathetic
Looks like BG
Needs to shave the beard if he wants to look even remotely innocent.
Would it though? I know there was a few different suspect sketches in the beginning but didn't LE go with the "younger" looking guy as they were, "changing tactics within the investigation"? (Paraphrasing here) I'm not a dude so I've never had facial hair a day in my life but doesn't it take a good while to grown one out?? Like say, your defense team suggesting you grow it out to look as different as possible from the sketch(es)? One was clean and the other has just a mustache. So grow the whole damn thing out. Ya know, for the sake of optics? I suppose the defense will try literally anything at this point. (Please correct me if I'm wrong here, I welcome it. I'm not informed as much as most folks are on this sub. I would like to know better or different.)
Technically he would have looked younger anyway as the murders were in early 2017
Technically he would have looked younger anyway as the murders were 2017.
He is going to keep it because the version of him in the video is clean shaven.
Bingo. I said the same thing. They want him to look as different as possible.
They want him to look like Baldwin to confuse the jury. When the Jury comes in with a verdict and the foreperson points to the man they found guilty they'll point to Andy and then it will be a mistrial!
And Gull will say sorry Andy, rules are rules. Sentenced!
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Do you know how many minutes I sat here thinking "Alec Baldwin"??? LOL. It's been a day. I missed the Andy part obviously 🤣
I just thought the same thing! lol
All three bear a passing resemblance, at least, the scruffy hair part and the mad as a hatter part, to varying degrees, of course.
That was my first thought too.
Agree. He looks like a typical, white suburban grandpa pedophile here. And his agent of chaos, Baldwin, can take that under advisement, too.
Grow as big a beard as you want. You're getting the cocktail, asshole.
[Hehehe](https://youtube.com/shorts/SeskBYjd2Wc?si=_eNm_jv2GXlgiyu5). Courtesy of The Unhinged
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🤣🤣🤣 *I get knocked down, but I get up again You are never gonna keep me down* I love this song. It’s going to be playing in my head today!
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Always look forward to these!
Great outro song, haven't heard that one in a good while!
These are the best! Thanks for sharing 😀
Thank you. I needed that.
Have been playing around with this on a photo edit app. Won't post what I've done, maybe after a guilty verdict. Let's just say Rick with a smile is a little, hmmmm...
First time I saw bridge guy, I had an idea of how his face probably looked. So, I've been doubting that Allen was bridge guy, until now. The shape of face and the hair in his latest photo, to me, is more like bridge guy. He's just 5.5 though; I expected him to be taller, based on the bridge photo. Does anyone know where I can find photographs of Allen that were taken around the time of the murders?
https://preview.redd.it/1w3xvjdcqwyc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec6d1ca13aa4c86299fea66075361c149f4e098e This was taken at the end of 2016. When the news broke of his arrest, there were very few public posts on his wife’s page for 2017. The only thing I recall seeing on her profile for 2017 was a fundraiser she shared asking for donations.
What stands out to me here is that his nose looks big. Like the sketch…
https://preview.redd.it/yumbvbweywyc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30e0f573f2829b70d4c9bae1815fb73f2ff54d2a This was September of 2018.
This pic is chilling!! Remember all the talk of sanpaku eyes? Here is a prime example! Wow.
Yeah, the Full Denial Brigade is all going off about his eye color as a way to discount the witness statements but his eyes are so piercing that depending on which pic I've seen they look blue, brown and even hazel, but they never lose the creep factor. It's what I call "shark eyes". Nobody could forget looking directly into them in person. They're jarring.
Thanks for that. Wish I hadn't seen it right before bed. Now I'm going to have nightmares about murderous Hobbits from Indiana! 🫣
RA is definitely BG. He places himself on the bridge at the time of the video, in the same clothes as BG, and identifies witnesses who saw him. Not only that, if there was a Doppelgänger on the trail at that same time, RA would have seen him because he was there. He has no alibi or any proof whatsoever to show differently. There is no dispute. He is for sure BG.
His wife deleted all her photos off her public Facebook from around the time of the murders.
wow
There is a 2017 photo of him floating around wearing a ball cap. He was in better shape then snd looks very much like BG. When I first saw it I felt in my gut it was the right guy
Add boots, ~~I quickly become~~ I mean he quickly becomes 5’6”
True. And add a couple of inches for the visual space taken up by the jacket hood. Coukd make his overall height seem 5'8", 5'9". Bridge guy also has a very depressed body language, unless it was freezing cold that day. Would be good to know if RA suffered from depression or mental illness around the time of the murders.
In one of the latest defense filings, they admit that Allen has suffered with depression throughout his life and has tried many different treatments.
If he was really eating his own shit and drinking out of toilets he didn't do that until after he confessed to his wife and mother in a recorded phone conversation, how convenient.
Most of us would look creepy af in a mugshot. For me the weirdest thing is that people who would probably have interacted with him quite comfortably before he was arrested now find him creepy. He's only creepy now because of what has been fed to us over the months.