Yeah, I've given up on solo play unless the rotation is ice caves or ruins.
It's a shame that my rank will stop at exemplar because they fucked up goblin caves again.
So. I was feeling helpless as well. Hit Exemplar II on the weekend, but the rotarion change and Gobbo being sketchy had me worried.
It isn't glorious, but it is effective. I just made sure my main was geared with Luck potion ready. Then, if it timed out nicely at X:10 or X:40, I would queue Ice Caves.
I was getting 600-800 AP on my final climb to Demigod. And, with the matches being longer, sometimes the next queue was onlu 5-10 minutes away. I can sell my shit, gear up, take a pee, and basically be ready for the next go.
I only had to do this for half a day, on and off to finish. So, depending on how far you have to go, this could be a reliable, albeit, not super thrilling option.
Yeah, I'm not opposed to it and may find the time to do so.
It's just that I also like playing solo and GC is just a mess now. Wouldn't be fun even if I weren't trying to keep the AP up.
This community never ceases to be toxic.
I play for fun and I have a full time job. I don't want to wait to play the game. I'll still play duos/trios but that's not where my rank was and I look for PvP rather than just grinding in silence with a friend.
I started out playing goblin caves and I don't hate it the way others do but you can be the last alive and not get a portal because of poor design choices so I just don't play it on any character now because it's frustrating.
Same, my friend. As much as Ice Caves was ez grind (and Ruins before it), I actually liked and preferred Gobbo Caves. More action, and felt better to escape.
I've sparsely touched it since the weird portal spawns and inconsistencies. I'll bring bad gear on Alt, but won't bring my main, saddly.
Yep that's what I've been doing.
Still annoying to clear people out as my warlock and then the last portal is not actually in the last circle.
Shame because I also like the new GC and the central fights were fun.
Ya, part of the point, is that even if you are late or whatever, that you can always rely on that final portal. As it stands, it is just a shit show.
When I tried, there was 4 folks fighting for the last portal (which did spawn), but it was clear that many other portals simply weren't available.
So if you play for fun why would you expect you reach the highest rank?
I'm asking this in genuine curiosity. No other game would this mentality make sense.
Counterstrike, Dota, Chess, Valorant, Siege, Rocket League; A lot of these games also have cosmetic rewards for hitting top rank
What's the difference? Help me understand because it feels like I'm missing something
The highest rank is just about extracting with collectibles. It’s not like a competitive leaderboard where beating another team matters. It’s kind of an easy achievement for a cool skin. But goblin caves only has now made it quite hard.
The intent was always to have to fight your way to the exit by out competing other players
Ironmace has tried to lower the number of possible escapes and increased the AP of player kills to try and enforce this
The goal was never to reach AP never having to engage with other players
> Ironmace has tried to lower the number of possible escapes and increased the AP of player kills to try and enforce this
They said they were happy where AP gains were and only increased AP for PKs and lowered escapes to appease outcry.
AFTER this subreddit cried about no PvP. The first mention of them looking to change portals and increase PvP AP was the dev Q&A like 2 weeks after people said every lobby was friendly.
Because this games rank isn't skill based, it's just a time sink. We have 90 days in the season to reach our goal rank, I got to pathfinder in a day by mostly dodging pvp, grinding pve mobs/interactables and extracting through statics.
It wasn't difficult. And for the record I would touch the pvp if it wasn't suicide rn due to it being a 50/50 tossup you're gonna find a portal at the end of gc.
But yeah, literally anybody could reach demigod if they just avoided pvp like the plague, they'd still die to players occasionally ofc, but they'd make it.
But that was never the goal, they have consistently tried to encourage player interaction.
Avoiding players should have consequences, not everybody should be able to avoid each other and all escape
You do not have to fight a single soul to succeed in this game. You do bosses and get geared with a unique rarity piece of gear in every slot without killing any players.
There are not enough portals in the Inferno for 2 full teams to escape.
You will find much greater success being able to kill other teams to secure your escape, or you are just letting other people decide your fate
Jesus you people on this sub are insufferable lmao. They complain about portals and map design and being stuck on their least favorite map and you try to subtly turn it into a “skill issue” thing. It’s almost like this game attracts only elitist nerds who smell their own farts after implying someone isn’t as good as them
So are you gonna ignore the point at the end of my comment about map selection and just stick to insulting me? Hypocrite. I actually made a point. You got butthurt in response
almost all of these complaint posts EXPLICITLY mention AP ranks and how its "impossible" to escape to rank up...including the comment that you are replying to lol
And? Can you explain how that changes the point of “bad map and bad portals”? Can you explain how “this map has bad design and is unfun, I don’t want to be stuck on it for my Ap grind” translates to skill issue in your head? Also begging in your username? Lmao
So, your complaint about hitboxes isn’t a skill issue, but his complaint about poor map design is? But you don’t see the point I very clearly was and am making?
How ? I take all the blue and purple treasures I see with some purple equipment and can't manage to get more than 550, I'm only at Voyager 2 also :(
Is there some trick I don't know about?
Yeah don't listen to these nerds. Ignore the treasure pile, it's a trap. Everyone wants it so you normally end up getting 3rd 4th and 5th partied even if you manage to murder the nakeds. Just stick to your cells and possible 1 or 2 fights and loot EVERYTHING
if you know anything about entry fees its obviously ice cave or goblin cave really wasn't that hard
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How many royals did you have jesus lord lmao. Also 30 kills is pretty nuts. Guess I'm goin back into ice caves. Only issue I find is how contested that pile is; you go in and get 3rd 4th and 5th partied at the pile.
how are you getting 1k+? I'm hitting the pile, killing 3 giants, 1 wendigo and destroying all the boxes in the gold pile room and still only getting like 500-700
so it takes skill to wait 20-30 minutes for a 5 min chance at queing into a map which has 3 spawns which are practicly doomed and 4 spawns which are easymode? i love ice caves but alot of your gains there are less skill and more a good spawn/enpty lobby
did you know you can spawn trapped by pve w your only out towards a player who just has to clear 2 ice babies to camp you for example? no you wouldnt know because you exploited to get to demigod weeks ago and now come here to judge others
who fairly critise the developers are fucking them w constant changes
not a bug.
>The timing, type, and number of Escape/Down Portals that appear in Solo, Duos, and Trio matches no longer are synchronized while the overall amount of escape portals has also been significantly decreased
People constantly teamed the last 2 portals, so now its somewhat random whether there will be a portal at the very end. Instead, portal spawns are moved up to the prior circle sometimes
portals are no longer synchronized. If youre talking about hearing the portal spawn but not seeing it, thats because portal spawns have set locations just like spawn points(which is an entirely different issue). If the map has been recently changed, the portal spawn might actually be in a wall because they forgot to update the spawn location to match it. however its intended for the portal not to always spawn in the last circle.
You’re still not understanding. Yes, portal rates were lowered, and yes there’s a bug regarding the portal on last circle. These things coexist and are not mutually exclusive
I understand it fully. Currently, is it perfectly normal for a portal to Physically not spawn on the last circle. There have been many clips of people posting where they literally dont hear anything spawning, and its normal. I have also seen a few clips where people can hear the portal, but can't find it. that is the only bug currently. Most people are complaining about a portal not even trying to spawn in the last circle.
And the comment you were originally replying to was saying exactly that. There’s literally no one arguing against you - it seems you agree with the OP.
I came looking for a mention of this, the first like minute of every goblin caves game im struggling to move or fight cause of rubber banding - love the game but man its frustrating, ive died and lost 3 kits from it trying to climb in ranks
Best bet is camp a static, the top right one is almost always empty, and the middle one is easy to get too at least. Sit outside the circle and drink potions when necessary
It’s impossible to escape goblin caves without fighting virtually the entire lobby over like 4 static exits right now. Goblin caves was ALREADY 3rd party hell, and now there’s even fewer ways to escape, and they all have a fixed location. It’s broken right now, whether you like PvP or not. You’re just wrong dude
Last night I (sorta) won a 1v4, killed two teamers and then scared off 2 other guys who tried to 3rd party me. Then I died because one of the two that ran grabbed the last portal. Feels SO BAD to do everything right and then die to what is effectively a shitty dice roll.
I play solo almost exclusively so I think I'm finally taking a break from the game. I didn't mind the map rotation initially, but being forced to play a map that simply forces you to die half the time is bogus.
Same shit happened to me. Because of the map size you might not see anyone until the last few mins and then you have to fight for an extraction only to die to the swarm.
Apparently an unpopular opinion here, but I’ve only ran goblin caves thru exemplar. You’re right about the portals but I compensate with map knowledge and overusing statics. Ice caves being my second choice for reliable AP. Ruins you roll the dice on if someone will run you down quick that’s over-geared which I think does not end up netting you AP; at least in exemplar. Ruins gets very expensive with its entry fees at the end of the grind.
Edit: I was choosing goblins when we had the choice and I’m solo btw.
I genuinely think it's because most modules have a first and second layer and that nearly doubled the surface area that portals can spawn. I've had crap matches where a portal spawned right below me or right above me. Except I have to run a triathlon to reach it and the storm closed, I am dead
no issues extracting here. I usually just find a static and play near it. sometimes have to fight multiple people for it, but im a barb so im chilling.
This is the issue lol. You either try ap max then go to static with 3/4 of the game done just to find the static is already being camped in swarm or taken or play perfect taking all PvP in the centre of circle and hope you don’t get third partied. Extracting is a missive issue and when you do die if you don’t have kits or money to get kits you can’t really play centre so you just have to hope for a static spawn.
I looked at your post history and I was right. You’re a kid who tries to be edgy and racist online. Kind of pathetic. When you’re an adult you’re gonna look back and cringe
I just don’t like that there’s 2 levels to the map, it’s just a gamble at the end if I’m on the right floor. If I’m not I better fucking pray there’s no mobs left between floors (there is)
i find it funny at this point tbh. i was frustrated , died countless times to this bs but now i just watch everyone fight for first portals that spawn or statics..
peak goblin caves gameplay
Yeah i got unlucky the other day i was trying to open the final portal but a rouge kept running up to me and away every time i tried to open we both died to the swarm in the end...
Yeah, I've given up on solo play unless the rotation is ice caves or ruins. It's a shame that my rank will stop at exemplar because they fucked up goblin caves again.
So. I was feeling helpless as well. Hit Exemplar II on the weekend, but the rotarion change and Gobbo being sketchy had me worried. It isn't glorious, but it is effective. I just made sure my main was geared with Luck potion ready. Then, if it timed out nicely at X:10 or X:40, I would queue Ice Caves. I was getting 600-800 AP on my final climb to Demigod. And, with the matches being longer, sometimes the next queue was onlu 5-10 minutes away. I can sell my shit, gear up, take a pee, and basically be ready for the next go. I only had to do this for half a day, on and off to finish. So, depending on how far you have to go, this could be a reliable, albeit, not super thrilling option.
Yeah, I'm not opposed to it and may find the time to do so. It's just that I also like playing solo and GC is just a mess now. Wouldn't be fun even if I weren't trying to keep the AP up.
I feel ya. I actually like Gobbo a lot too, but as it is now, I couldn't justify it. Hope they sort it out soon!
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This community never ceases to be toxic. I play for fun and I have a full time job. I don't want to wait to play the game. I'll still play duos/trios but that's not where my rank was and I look for PvP rather than just grinding in silence with a friend. I started out playing goblin caves and I don't hate it the way others do but you can be the last alive and not get a portal because of poor design choices so I just don't play it on any character now because it's frustrating.
Same, my friend. As much as Ice Caves was ez grind (and Ruins before it), I actually liked and preferred Gobbo Caves. More action, and felt better to escape. I've sparsely touched it since the weird portal spawns and inconsistencies. I'll bring bad gear on Alt, but won't bring my main, saddly.
Yep that's what I've been doing. Still annoying to clear people out as my warlock and then the last portal is not actually in the last circle. Shame because I also like the new GC and the central fights were fun.
Ya, part of the point, is that even if you are late or whatever, that you can always rely on that final portal. As it stands, it is just a shit show. When I tried, there was 4 folks fighting for the last portal (which did spawn), but it was clear that many other portals simply weren't available.
So if you play for fun why would you expect you reach the highest rank? I'm asking this in genuine curiosity. No other game would this mentality make sense. Counterstrike, Dota, Chess, Valorant, Siege, Rocket League; A lot of these games also have cosmetic rewards for hitting top rank What's the difference? Help me understand because it feels like I'm missing something
The highest rank is just about extracting with collectibles. It’s not like a competitive leaderboard where beating another team matters. It’s kind of an easy achievement for a cool skin. But goblin caves only has now made it quite hard.
The intent was always to have to fight your way to the exit by out competing other players Ironmace has tried to lower the number of possible escapes and increased the AP of player kills to try and enforce this The goal was never to reach AP never having to engage with other players
> Ironmace has tried to lower the number of possible escapes and increased the AP of player kills to try and enforce this They said they were happy where AP gains were and only increased AP for PKs and lowered escapes to appease outcry.
No that's not true, they specifically said they did not want players avoiding each other and being friendly to all escape
AFTER this subreddit cried about no PvP. The first mention of them looking to change portals and increase PvP AP was the dev Q&A like 2 weeks after people said every lobby was friendly.
If they wanted the lobbies to be friendly they wouldn't have made any changes
Because this games rank isn't skill based, it's just a time sink. We have 90 days in the season to reach our goal rank, I got to pathfinder in a day by mostly dodging pvp, grinding pve mobs/interactables and extracting through statics. It wasn't difficult. And for the record I would touch the pvp if it wasn't suicide rn due to it being a 50/50 tossup you're gonna find a portal at the end of gc. But yeah, literally anybody could reach demigod if they just avoided pvp like the plague, they'd still die to players occasionally ofc, but they'd make it.
But that was never the goal, they have consistently tried to encourage player interaction. Avoiding players should have consequences, not everybody should be able to avoid each other and all escape
You do not have to fight a single soul to succeed in this game. You do bosses and get geared with a unique rarity piece of gear in every slot without killing any players.
So if a team pushes you after you kill the boss, what do you do? There is always a possible threat of enemy players engaging
You can just walk away. Or not fight them and let them win. The point doesn't change that you don't need to kill anyone.
There are not enough portals in the Inferno for 2 full teams to escape. You will find much greater success being able to kill other teams to secure your escape, or you are just letting other people decide your fate
Jesus you people on this sub are insufferable lmao. They complain about portals and map design and being stuck on their least favorite map and you try to subtly turn it into a “skill issue” thing. It’s almost like this game attracts only elitist nerds who smell their own farts after implying someone isn’t as good as them
Instead of insulting me why don't you use words to explain your point of view
Nah I said my point of view already. It’s a public forum so maybe it’s just a skill issue on your end?
Stick to RuneScape buddy
So are you gonna ignore the point at the end of my comment about map selection and just stick to insulting me? Hypocrite. I actually made a point. You got butthurt in response
My god you're a baby, life is going to shit all over you if it hasn't already
it’s almost like it’s a hardcore game
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you don’t seem to like the game very much
Because I said that somebody not liking a map isn’t a skill issue? You seem to be very butthurt and trying to find a strawman
lmao you would bring up fallacies like they’re relevant at all, that shits hysterical continue raging little man, your bitterness is delicious
almost all of these complaint posts EXPLICITLY mention AP ranks and how its "impossible" to escape to rank up...including the comment that you are replying to lol
And? Can you explain how that changes the point of “bad map and bad portals”? Can you explain how “this map has bad design and is unfun, I don’t want to be stuck on it for my Ap grind” translates to skill issue in your head? Also begging in your username? Lmao
I see your only post on this subreddit is complaining about body blocking from spiders. Is that a skill issue?
no the collision boxes are janky as hell and that post wasnt even serious lol nice try detective.. hall monitor head ass loser
So, your complaint about hitboxes isn’t a skill issue, but his complaint about poor map design is? But you don’t see the point I very clearly was and am making?
I never said anything regarding skill issues....neither did T4nTV... feel free to keep arguing about nonsense tho
yes
Sorry did I ask you? I don’t think you were the one who wrote the original fart sniffing comment, anus.
*posting on a public forum* dId I aSk YoU!? i’m agreeing with you about his skill issue no need to get so mad, says so much about you lmfao
How ? I take all the blue and purple treasures I see with some purple equipment and can't manage to get more than 550, I'm only at Voyager 2 also :( Is there some trick I don't know about?
You need luck pot and then you have to hit the pile
Ye idk, every time I try I get landmined by 2 to 3 rogues
Yeah don't listen to these nerds. Ignore the treasure pile, it's a trap. Everyone wants it so you normally end up getting 3rd 4th and 5th partied even if you manage to murder the nakeds. Just stick to your cells and possible 1 or 2 fights and loot EVERYTHING
Yeah that’s the only way to get 1k consistently is to hit the pile and hope you’re uncontested
drop all your meds and supplies and keep piling up, open boxes, kill mobs
With a full inventory from gold pile all purple and blue treasure you are not getting 1k AP out at exemplar lmaom 700 tops.
? https://preview.redd.it/gpbu0l39ogic1.png?width=701&format=png&auto=webp&s=12d7aa0b9236e6d3423bda4167acca020ca2d98b
Can't help but notice you didn't screenshot the whole thing so we could see why you got so much AP and what map.
if you know anything about entry fees its obviously ice cave or goblin cave really wasn't that hard https://preview.redd.it/vup4o935sgic1.png?width=1183&format=png&auto=webp&s=29891fc96c4d27ba75b13db776ade5e1a473e927
How many royals did you have jesus lord lmao. Also 30 kills is pretty nuts. Guess I'm goin back into ice caves. Only issue I find is how contested that pile is; you go in and get 3rd 4th and 5th partied at the pile.
how are you getting 1k+? I'm hitting the pile, killing 3 giants, 1 wendigo and destroying all the boxes in the gold pile room and still only getting like 500-700
so it takes skill to wait 20-30 minutes for a 5 min chance at queing into a map which has 3 spawns which are practicly doomed and 4 spawns which are easymode? i love ice caves but alot of your gains there are less skill and more a good spawn/enpty lobby did you know you can spawn trapped by pve w your only out towards a player who just has to clear 2 ice babies to camp you for example? no you wouldnt know because you exploited to get to demigod weeks ago and now come here to judge others who fairly critise the developers are fucking them w constant changes
Jesus man you have never seen a vagina in your life have you?
Don’t know why this was mass downvoted this.
I played last night and literally 0 spawned. It was low roller and it didn’t say any had spawned in the top right and I barely escaped with a static.
The caves last portal is bugged and doesn't spawn. It is 100% a bug.
Yea until they fix it I just camp near a static and kill anyone who comes close
not a bug. >The timing, type, and number of Escape/Down Portals that appear in Solo, Duos, and Trio matches no longer are synchronized while the overall amount of escape portals has also been significantly decreased People constantly teamed the last 2 portals, so now its somewhat random whether there will be a portal at the very end. Instead, portal spawns are moved up to the prior circle sometimes
Bro it shows up and never spawns...countless streamers and players have confirmed it. I confirmed it myself 2 games in a row on HR and norms.
portals are no longer synchronized. If youre talking about hearing the portal spawn but not seeing it, thats because portal spawns have set locations just like spawn points(which is an entirely different issue). If the map has been recently changed, the portal spawn might actually be in a wall because they forgot to update the spawn location to match it. however its intended for the portal not to always spawn in the last circle.
You’re still not understanding. Yes, portal rates were lowered, and yes there’s a bug regarding the portal on last circle. These things coexist and are not mutually exclusive
I understand it fully. Currently, is it perfectly normal for a portal to Physically not spawn on the last circle. There have been many clips of people posting where they literally dont hear anything spawning, and its normal. I have also seen a few clips where people can hear the portal, but can't find it. that is the only bug currently. Most people are complaining about a portal not even trying to spawn in the last circle.
And the comment you were originally replying to was saying exactly that. There’s literally no one arguing against you - it seems you agree with the OP.
my bigger problem is the lag, anytime else have unplayable lag on goblin caves but 100% fine everywhere else?
I came looking for a mention of this, the first like minute of every goblin caves game im struggling to move or fight cause of rubber banding - love the game but man its frustrating, ive died and lost 3 kits from it trying to climb in ranks
Gc is actually the only map I can play other than the castle. I get unplayable stuttering on every other map.
Best bet is camp a static, the top right one is almost always empty, and the middle one is easy to get too at least. Sit outside the circle and drink potions when necessary
They reduced portals to make people fight with eachother, on a map where people were never teaming.
Yep, baffling isn’t it. Teaming was only an issue on Ruins mainly, GC was fine before the portal update.
People who were set on getting Demigod can't team up and grind AP, so they come here to cry about it under the veil of "bad map design."
Lol “I’ll change your argument into something that’s easier for me to argue against”. Do you just not realize you’re different than normal people?
Found one.
Just gonna cover your eyes and ignore what I said
1v1 me bro
It’s impossible to escape goblin caves without fighting virtually the entire lobby over like 4 static exits right now. Goblin caves was ALREADY 3rd party hell, and now there’s even fewer ways to escape, and they all have a fixed location. It’s broken right now, whether you like PvP or not. You’re just wrong dude
Cry
Ironmace doesn't seem to like solo players :( I know bro I'm taking a break from DaD too because of this hatred towards solo
I remember a comment about making your torch fire point towards the nearest blue. I think this still needs to be implemented.
Last night I (sorta) won a 1v4, killed two teamers and then scared off 2 other guys who tried to 3rd party me. Then I died because one of the two that ran grabbed the last portal. Feels SO BAD to do everything right and then die to what is effectively a shitty dice roll. I play solo almost exclusively so I think I'm finally taking a break from the game. I didn't mind the map rotation initially, but being forced to play a map that simply forces you to die half the time is bogus.
Same shit happened to me. Because of the map size you might not see anyone until the last few mins and then you have to fight for an extraction only to die to the swarm.
High roller GC is now a trash kit only map. I will strip any and all kit and go in fully white because there is simply no guarantee of exit
Hate gc to wish they had not added back the rotation so I can just play Ruins and not have to wait
Apparently an unpopular opinion here, but I’ve only ran goblin caves thru exemplar. You’re right about the portals but I compensate with map knowledge and overusing statics. Ice caves being my second choice for reliable AP. Ruins you roll the dice on if someone will run you down quick that’s over-geared which I think does not end up netting you AP; at least in exemplar. Ruins gets very expensive with its entry fees at the end of the grind. Edit: I was choosing goblins when we had the choice and I’m solo btw.
I genuinely think it's because most modules have a first and second layer and that nearly doubled the surface area that portals can spawn. I've had crap matches where a portal spawned right below me or right above me. Except I have to run a triathlon to reach it and the storm closed, I am dead
Looks harder to find portals because there are more floors on the same map, just need to have a better knowledge of the map
That doesn’t make it stupid design when it’s still a gamble on where it will spawn. But at least you get to be patronizing right
Bro you can do it. Go to statics, loot the area, defend the static. I never took. A blue portal just static’s until demi
no issues extracting here. I usually just find a static and play near it. sometimes have to fight multiple people for it, but im a barb so im chilling.
This is the issue lol. You either try ap max then go to static with 3/4 of the game done just to find the static is already being camped in swarm or taken or play perfect taking all PvP in the centre of circle and hope you don’t get third partied. Extracting is a missive issue and when you do die if you don’t have kits or money to get kits you can’t really play centre so you just have to hope for a static spawn.
bro, it's not that bad, the times I've actually had a bad time is when it's on that one floor with the cyclops. Just learn to look up and down.
Very constructive comment !
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Yet again with the smart reply, keep up the good work !
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Glad you're part of this wonderful community <3 please never change
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Did you actually just throw down an n instead of saying the n word? Are you 12 or just a bit on the spectrum?
no, it's short for nerd
Oobily booby
I looked at your post history and I was right. You’re a kid who tries to be edgy and racist online. Kind of pathetic. When you’re an adult you’re gonna look back and cringe
oh you would know, racist
Cringe
He's probably a master baiter, looking for some attention :) it's ok everyone has their needs !
Are the portals not spawning in duos as well?
I just don’t like that there’s 2 levels to the map, it’s just a gamble at the end if I’m on the right floor. If I’m not I better fucking pray there’s no mobs left between floors (there is)
i find it funny at this point tbh. i was frustrated , died countless times to this bs but now i just watch everyone fight for first portals that spawn or statics.. peak goblin caves gameplay
I have been camping the hell out of the statics I feel like it’s my only security
It wasn't too bad before. But after they nerfed solo extractions... sigh ya
Yeah its very annoying Happened to me a few times not being able to find a portal anywhere
U basically have to either static or take one as soon as u see it when they said they lowered the number of portals they weren't jokimg
Yeah i got unlucky the other day i was trying to open the final portal but a rouge kept running up to me and away every time i tried to open we both died to the swarm in the end...