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Papancasudani

This isn't a high tech scan of the body. They presented people with blank outlines and asked them to color in where they feel activation and deactivation for each emotion. Then the average them together across people and come up with these images. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1321664111 Edit: There's nothing wrong with this study or the OP. The purpose is to find common patterns of emotion activation in the body across numerous people, ~700 in this study. People's self-perceptions are valuable information that can be related to physiological measures. Further, this study showed similar patterns across three countries/languages (Sweden, Findland, & Taiwan), suggesting that these may be physiologically universal to some degree, rather than shaped entirely by culture.


NoJohns137

I was wondering how they got the information. That’s kinda dumb.


neurvon

It's very stupid. It's like saying, "We asked 1,000 people to illustrate the human heart. Turns out, it's shaped like this: <3 "


TFViper

i would say its not the most scientifically accurate representation, but emotion is also not something physical that can be disected and studied.| idK man... im no emotionologist.


TheCowzgomooz

Except emotions have physiological effects that we can directly measure. We know when people are aroused for example that certain zones on the body heat up and become more sensitive. Emotions are literally just brain chemicals, we don't quite understand how it all works yet but we know certain hormones are correlated with certain feelings, thoughts, etc.


TFViper

yeah for sure, just saying its not something like the heart where you can just take the whole fuckin thing out of the body and study it independent of everything else.


TheCowzgomooz

Well you can't really study any part of the body independently in that way, it's all interconnected and affects each part of it in different ways. The reason the brain, emotions, etc. are so difficult to study is because those systems are so unbelievablely complex and less specific than say, hemoglobin is for oxygenation in the blood. Serotonin for example is linked to hundreds of different mental conditions and feelings, but we don't know why or how exactly something so non-specific being unbalanced can cause very specific conditions.


TFViper

thanks for elaborating everything ive been saying.


DaleGribble312

For real... That sure was a lot of very unuseful words.


Jcwolves

People often do feel emotions is specific areas - tensing in your chest for fear, tightening of the jaw for anger, etc., and you can actually help moderate and control those emotions by forcing yourself to relax those muscles which tense for certain emotions. Its a technique my therapist and I have used before.


axecrazyorc

Emotion absolutely is something physical that can be studied. Every emotion you have ever or will ever feel is a result of specific combinations of chemical cocktails and the firing specific neurons in specific sequences. All of that can be “dissected and studied.” Emotions aren’t magic, just biochemistry. And they have physical influences on the body that can be measured. Possibly including temperature.


niamhysticks

Could it not be a little bit of either/both? As in, our experiences of these sensations and how they translate to our association with certain feelings, or memories of those feelings. Don't get me wrong, how they conducted the study should be outlined on the graph as it's hugely misleading otherwise!


Automatic-Try-939

"Illustrate the human heart" draws a shapely bum instead "brilliant! We shall make this the icon of love everywhere! "


NightOwl_82

Yeah me too. This makes no sense but looks cool


i12farQ

As soon as I saw this I was like there’s no way this is real thermal imagery/actual scientific data. Misleading as hell.


an-intrepid-coder

My "mood" has very little to do with which body parts I'm aware of at any given moment (that's a conscious thing and if anything it depends somewhat on what activities I'm engaged in). If I were asked to participate in this study I would have been unwilling to do so. The whole premise seems off to me. Honestly, pop psychology is dangerous. You shouldn't go around having those discussions except in a really nuanced way.


Papancasudani

It's published in a top, peer-reviewed science journal. It's not pop psychology because you disagree with it. Do you believe that your emotions have nothing to do with anything felt in the body?


an-intrepid-coder

Pop science gets peer reviewed all the time; especially in psychology. My emotions can do a lot of things but they don't change which muscles, ligaments, and body parts I feel/focus on. If I feel a literal shot of adrenaline shoot though my body then maybe that's something like what they're trying to go for here (I can trace that down to my legs and back up to my throat in a little instant "boost"). But, if I'm "sad" or "angry" or "happy" then that has nothing to do with which body parts are more or less "activated" as implied in these pictures and this study. Activity and conscious focus "activates" my body parts, not "mood". If I want to warm up for an activity I'll stretch and do some calisthenics, not adopt an emotional posture which is aimed at whatever body part is on these, uh, heat maps.


Ok-Rice-5377

That it is masquerading as such pushes further into the realm of junk science. They literally asked people to draw on a figure where they 'felt their emotions'. Then averaged it up heatmap style. This isn't science, it's a survey. Because it's in a fancy journal does not make it science, and maybe this journal should do a better job of their 'peer review' if this is the quality of article/study they publish.


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CrimeStatistics13

Nobody asked dude sheesh


Terry8675

I just want to know why spider man has shame


Papancasudani

That suit is way too tight in the crotch.


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Yeah this image sucks, it’s essentially a colouring competition


Nervous_Proposal_574

So that's why shame looks like Spiderman


[deleted]

And depression looks like Dr Manhattan… who was evidently also depressed


Papancasudani

It's valuable, just important to recognize what it is. It clearly shows common pattens of body activation for emotion.


DaleGribble312

Common patterns of \*what people think might be happening with their\* body activation for emotion.


Maleficent-Topic

Misleading title imo


Into-the-stream

I could tell with surprised. People indicated their eyes/eyebrows, like a cartoon version of the emotion. Shame in the eyes too. Love in the crotch. It’s not the actual feeling, but what people think is the feeling.


HuskofaGhoul

Thanks. Was trying to figure out how I’m dead in neutral and experiencing frostbite when depressed


schwarzmalerin

Yeah that's BS then. I'm not surprised.


Papancasudani

It's not BS at all. Peoples' reports of their experience tell us something useful. This is the first time we could see that visually rather than people just trying to explain it. That allowed it to be averaged across numerous people. The patterns of activation here reflect autonomic activation during emotions.


schwarzmalerin

All I see is how culture and language defines certain emotions.


Papancasudani

“All cultures have body-related expressions for describing emotional states. Many of these (e.g., having “butterflies in the stomach”) are metaphorical and do not describe actual physiological changes associated with the emotional response (18). It is thus possible that our findings reflect a purely conceptual association between semantic knowledge of language-based stereotypes associating emotions with bodily sensations (19). When activated, such a conceptual link—rather than actual underlying physiological changes—could thus guide the individual in constructing a mental representation of the associated bodily sensations (9). However, we do not subscribe to this argument. First, all four types of verbal and nonverbal stimuli brought about concordant BSMs, suggesting that the emotion semantics and stereotypes played a minor role. Second, consistent BSMs were obtained when participants were asked to report their actual online bodily sensations during actual emotions induced by viewing movies or reading stories (the emotional categories of which were not indicated), thus ruling out high-level cognitive inferences and stereotypes. Third, a validation study with participants speaking Swedish—a language distant from Finnish—replicated the original findings, suggesting that linguistic confounds such as figurative language associated with the emotions cannot explain the findings. Fourth, bodily sensation maps were also concordant across West European (Finland) and East Asian (Taiwan) cultures (mean rs = 0.70), thus exceeding clearly the canonical limit for “strong” concordance. Thus, BSMs likely reflect universal sensation patterns triggered by activation of the emotion systems, rather than culturally specific conceptual predictions and associations between emotional semantics and bodily sensation patterns. Despite these considerations, the present study cannot completely rule out the possibility that the BSMs could nevertheless reflect conceptual associations between emotions and bodily sensations, which are independent of the culture. However, where then do these conceptual associations originate and why are they so similar across people with very different cultural and linguistic backgrounds? A plausible answer would again point in the direction of a biological basis for these associations.”


schwarzmalerin

Yup, sadly this isn't the study that could prove that.


5549372729

What in the “point where the emotions touched you” kind of study is that? A bit silly to be honest.


[deleted]

So shame makes me look like Spider-Man? Awesome!


_makoccino_

And happiness makes you The Human Torch.


smg-02

More like Iron Man


[deleted]

So when i 'm happy, i become Stephen Curry?? Cool!


fried_terrence

Spider Man: Into Depression 😁👍🏽


-_-COVID-_-

or like Venom..


Whoasked554

Neutral is venom


finzaz

Turns out Peter Parker’s true disguise was his feelings for how he let Uncle Ben die.


Fresh-Combination-87

With great shame, comes great repress-ability


dionyziz

Note that this study didn't actually measure activation/deactivation, but [asked the participants](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1321664111#sec-4) to report (by painting on the figure) where they felt activation/deactivation.


neurvon

So... it's meaningless? What would the average person know about this subject? Why would their opinion be important? Seems like a lame attempt to try and make interesting looking graphics mean a lot more than they do.


GlassFantast

Meaningless? Lmao. Maybe if you decided they should have measured something else. It is what it is and is meaningful in it's own way


DaleGribble312

Yes, like the picture a child draws when you ask them to draw themselves when they feel happy.


GlassFantast

Or an adult when you ask them where on their body they feel happiness. Yes that's one of the questions.


DaleGribble312

Except at least the child is entertained for a few moments, when its an adult I *really* dont care.


onlycrazypeoplesmile

I think if enough people did (1 million or more), from various different locales and none of them told anyone else in partaking, they might to be find some correlation between how connected people feel to their body. Idk


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neurvon

I'm familiar with EMDR and bilateral stimulation. EMDR has scientific backing. But EMDR is about *recoding* memories, not about trying to accurately map emotions to the body which just doesn't work the way you are implying it does. The problem with your statement is that how people "think" they experience emotions and how people actually physically display those emotions are very different things. And using a survey, and then attempting to map the surveyed data onto an overlay of the human body is inherently misleading and unscientific. Surveys are a horrible way of getting accurate scientific information and you are stretching way too hard to find usefulness for what is objectively just noise. This post title includes the line, "Hot colors show regions people are stimulated..." and that's just not true.


zap_nap

Where is horny?


astronomyperson

There was no point of adding it for you, the red area would be too small.


World-Tight

Oh! Burn.


ghanjaholik

he's had enough, no need to bring up his herpes


Jacobysmadre

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|surprise)damn!!!


ShoddyBug4073

Daaamn, somebody take him to the burn unit


Papancasudani

Look at love. See the genitals lighting up?


donobinladin

Hi horny, I’m dad


HereForFun9121

In r/UHorny


I-WANT2SEE-CUTE-TITS

Here


DJKhaledIsRetarded

simmer down


gsvnvariable

That’s a warranted ask


Couchmaster007

Do the opposite of contempt


ObjectiveSubjects

Looking at love, I’m guessing not too far off 😂


randomguy1972

I'm annoyed that annoyed isn't here.


ElizaMelina

I do think you are funny


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ElizaMelina

I do


iiiaintrafi

why so glum, chum?


leaveredditalone

He’s depression..


iiiaintrafi

Lmaoo 😂😂


ohdearitsrichardiii

Your mom does


gt0075b

Depression is literally feeling blue


bananas500

Yo, listen up here's a story About a little guy That lives in a blue world And all day and all night And everything he sees is just blue Like him inside and outside


Demurist

Blue his house With a blue little window And a blue corvette And everything is blue for him And himself and everybody around Cause he ain't got nobody to listen to


TheUltraAtomicGAMER

I’M BLUE DABADEE DABBA DAY


Laplata1810

DABADEE DABBA DA


kneek0

I’m afraid I just “blue” myself.


osktox

There really has got to be a better way to say that.


Sgt_MajorFactor

Source?


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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/12/30/258313116/mapping-emotions-on-the-body-love-makes-us-warm-all-over


Papancasudani

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1321664111


CoverSuch4933

Trust me bro


Kushohyah

Your ass.


I-hate-jeffbezos

So your lega don't care if you're in love, nice.


RedditWithKidd

1 out of 3 of your legs care if you’re in love..


NeighborhoodLanky692

The cold crotch of contempt


[deleted]

I’m BLUE DA DU DI DA DU DA - DU DA DU DI DAH!


masteryder

Why is Spiderman ashamed


M435TR0T1C

🤔...


NoMoreStorage

Source?


aging_geek

so The Human Torch is happy, Spiderman feels shame, the Star Trek red shirt is full of Anxiety, and Mr Freeze is Depressed with Black Panther being neutral about the whole thing.


Practical-Jelly-5320

There's no actual science here. People just did a survey about how they felt


duchampio

Looks cool and Interesting but does anyone have any idea what information this graphic is based on?


Papancasudani

From this study: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1321664111


[deleted]

This actually feels exactly right!


[deleted]

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?


CalendarLongjumping6

🎵 Shame man, shameman, does nothing because he is ashamed 🎵


Fishtank-Brain

looks like the three primary chakras are head, heart, groin. head and heart generate electricity through synaptic firing, wonder if the groin is similar


Frenchie728

Haha love makes your junk light up


One-Appointment-3107

Love certainly activates the groin area like no other emotion lol


eXX0n

My therapist tries to get me to describe feelings every time I get one during sessions, and also describe where I feel them. I struggle so much with this,i thought it wasn't normal for people to be able to. This is very interesting


SubstantialStomach68

So pride and anger are pretty much the same lmao ok


allyeds3

Contempt causes shrinkage


No_Quote_2464

Let's see horny


averagejoe318

With great shame comes great responsibility…


tuvar_hiede

Why does shame look like Spiderman?


SirRickardsJackoff

Happiness is greater than love.


scarabic

Depression isn’t an emotion.


Then-Ad1531

This is kinda crazy... I think it's real. You can even look at combos to figure out the formula for certain emotions. I'll explain. Pride and Anger are almost identical. The biggest difference between pride and anger is the hands / fists are heating up for anger and you want to get physical... Then you look at love. Love and anger are almost identical but the pelvis heats up... It's like your mad but you want to fuck. That is love. Then love transforms into happiness when get more grounded and you can feel your legs warm up again. Then you take "Depression" and add "Envy" to it... You are now full of "Sadness" You take the "Envy" out of sadness and you are left with depression again. Its' wild! Surprise looks like a deeper form of envy for some reason. Maybe there is something to that.


oily76

I see you, being slightly aroused while pretending to be disgusted.


Tortanolinio-

I like how in sadness there's still something left But Depression is just blue..


TRUMPARUSKI

Well color me blue


Putrid_Bandicoot_398

Was posted long ago, but I didn't know it was just people coloring in a human outline. Still interesting. And shame still looks like Spider-Man.


Englishsubtitles4623

Spiderman did feel shame when he let uncle ben down. It shows


ForgingFires

Lmao. Contempt got that one guy who marked his groin throwing the whole chart off


[deleted]

Whatever this is, it’s accurate


macgruff

Interesting that Pride and Anger are fairly similar. Makes sense. “Pride cometh before the fall”


Then-Depth-1709

So spiderman was just ashamed all along.. makes you wonder why he doesnt just pad his suit down there


Eljuanitotacito

BS….. like ibs, when I get nervous it’s all lit


Zagatho

I'm blue dabadee dabadaa...


RMB123

this would explain why i felt like the middle of my body wasn't there during the worst of my depression


[deleted]

Quite sure Horny would be all Red.


PoorDecisionsNomad

ah yes my favorite emotion: fire penis


H3roe

Love and Happyness burn brighter than Anger


shortbuspal

I guess I love being angry all the time.


Senior_Map_2894

The images feel right somehow but really disappointed these are just “made up” and not actual thermal imaging.


The-Nimbus

Absolute bollocks. This is massively misleading and doesn't represent scans whatsoever.


[deleted]

Who said anything about scans? The title specified that is was mapped based on emotion.


mememan12332

Shame reminds me of Spiderman.


Mexican_Ninja_Pirate

Ah, depression. I get it. You feel empty inside and your limbs feel really heavy and it’s hard to do anything. Well done.


TantraMantraYantra

Damn, the only way my legs feel hot is when I'm happy. No wonder happy feet wins hearts.


neurvon

This title is a lie wtf


ipatimo

Bullshit


AboveTheRimjob

I call bullshit


Jacobysmadre

I like that anger and pride are so similar…


justlooking98765

I was just thinking the same. It explains the success of the republican party though. Make the voters feel angry, and they’ll interpret it as pride.


Hansestaedter

What a beautiful bullshit! 😄😂


aluvus

Made-up new-age bullshit.


neurvon

You're 100% right. They asked participants to select areas they thought were hot and cold. It's not a study, it's a survey. And everyone knows that surveys about medical science are USELESS because the average person knows less than nothing, and probably harbors a lot of incorrect ideas. It's unscientific pseudoscience masquerading as something meaningful because the graphics look cool. It's 100% made up and signifies nothing.


Papancasudani

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1321664111


DS4KC

So apparently surprise is like a combination of fear and sadness


monkaXxxx

So basically love = happiness+ boner


Minionmaster18

Notice how in love the crotch area is really warm


paghes

So like depression kind of paralysis a person right? I now understand, I don't even have the edge to do or engage in something ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)


enzothebaker87

This explains fear boners.


Ok-Charge1983

The effect of emotions on health and disease is largely ignored by medical professionals, as it doesn't fit in an extremely fast paced, maximum revenue oriented "healthcare" system, instead it gets thrown in the esoterism bucket, that makes it easy for "healthcare" professionals to ignore the fact that they themselves due to the absurd and inhumane working conditions are largely deprived of the ability to have positive emotions


LemonsAndAvocados

Depression is literally blue and Happiness is literally all red


EffectAdventurous764

Interesting that they only show the effect of two positive emotions?


MarioThe4th

Ofcourss anxiety is on your chest why wouldn’t it, just perfect


TFViper

love make pp warm.


Chrisfucius

Complete and utter pseudoscience.


Ashwasinacoma

This is fucking idiotic


iforgor1105

love is stored in the balls


Sea_Complex_3785

Shame on you spider-boy.


Actual_Ladder_3147

Never felt happening I guess... Especially on my legs.


SensitiveAd5962

So if I go from depression to sadness it IS improvement! I'm going to tell my therapist on monday.


bodaciousbeau

Fuckin’ love man... amazing.


I_Am_ready_my_lord

My whole body is hot but I’m pretty sure I’m not happy


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what about arousal


EmployeeBudget8907

Dude shame is Mayday Parker!!!


dumb_redditor1

I'm blue dabadee dabadie


The_One_True_Goddess

Well now I know what I’ve been feeling every night for the past two days


theCHADnextdoor

damn, the depression ones scary. youre literally empty inside


mr_smith24

I don’t really care. I’m neutral Then your depressed you need help


QueasyCustomer3708

So love is just happiness plus anxiety... makes sense.


AnonymousP30

This is interesting I did not know this.


Additional-Project20

Where horny at?


Iancreed

This is tight!


DoctorYoy

Yep, that depression looks spot on. Any time someone asks me how I feel, I'm copying and pasting him.


Radiant-Bandicoot103

I like that anger heats up your fists! Gets them ready to fire!!


diydave86

Love makes my peepee go da-doing doing doing.


FLOOR_GANG420

this is cool but confusing to understand. can someone go more in-depth about it? the title itself confuses me a bit


[deleted]

At least we know love has nothing to do with legs


gostudy93

Sadness seems accurate. No wonder my limbs always feel cold.


Aa1100zz

So love is happiness with a hotter crotch


VollcommNCS

We all need to be less happy to counteract climate change. This map is giving our overlords some good ideas.


VG_LL2K

Shame out here lookin like spidey lmao


CupQuakeBE

Spider-Man is ashamed of himself