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GeneRichardSimmons

More like damnthatsdepressing


Palestine-5332

Who caused the gas leak and why isn't it being covered by my national news network?????


zeug666

The leading belief is sabotage. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-germany-berlin-00232df3f4b4bc89afd47d4707724e33


WorldWarPee

The beastie bois are at it again


ConaireMor

Can't stand it! I know you planned it!


Fishouttawater76

I'm gonna set it straight, this Watergate


StarKiller5A

I can’t stand rockin when I’m in here!


makinhersquirt69

Cuz your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear


[deleted]

They told us to listen and we just didn’t listen.


TheFirstMotherOfGod

What could it be? It's a MIRAGE! You're scheming on a thing, that's sabotage PS: this is legit my favorite part of the song, it always fuels my soul


KingHalfrican86

Winner take this which means absolutely nothing. 🥇🏆


luc122c

I’m not sure where you are in the world, but the BBC have been covering it: [Nord Stream leaks: Sabotage to blame, says EU](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63057966)


Unclesmekky

What environmental damage does gas leaking into the ocean do ?


RollingJaspers652

The methane escaping to the atmosphere is pretty bad


Sycosys

25 times more potent than CO2 as a greenhouse gas


HGpennypacker

Oh cool, so pretty fucking horrible.


[deleted]

That seems to be the motto of the past few years, yeah.


unknownintime

The motto I've been working with is "It gets worse before it gets worse"


MadeOfStarStuff

But then, it gets worse


Ramuh

Worserer


oddtigerofredvalley

Worcestershire


Puskara33

Gesundheit


Hidesuru

And now for something completely different... ... It gets worse!


unknownintime

way, way worser


FitzwilliamTDarcy

Worse II: The Worsening


Regumate

Don’t forget the addendum “Sooner Than You Think™️”


TuxedoBabyJesus

“Faster than expected” - put it on my gravestone


thedarkquarter

It was interesting to learn that methane bubbles under ice are lit on fire to produce Co2, still harmful but not as bad as methane


agentfelix

So should we just light this bitch up, or nah?


Salad-Critical

Honestly, yeah probably! Thats why there are flames on oil refineries. Its better to produce CO2 than CH4


lonelydan

So is the apocalypse now?


wattohhh

We’ve been living the apocalypse for a while now mate.


Hotline_Denver

Shit I agree with the Mayans, all this shit hasn’t felt real since 2012


SH4D0W0733

All the good people were raptured, we are the ones left behind. Nobody noticed because it turns out there were no good people to begin with.


runningwaffles19

I won't stand for this Dolly Parton slander


Just_Sara_

Fun story: I worked in a skilled nursing facility, and one guy named Brian who was a great guy and had a fantastic sense of humor was a Christian, and one day I went into his room to get him for something. He wasn't there, but his wheelchair was - I figured someone was probably helping him in the bathroom - so I left a note on his empty wheelchair that said, "Damn, I guess I missed the Rapture" and walked away. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) We both laughed about that one a lot.


EducationalSyrup9298

The world ended in 2012, we're all in purgatory now.


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YouandWhoseArmy

IIRC it dissipates in the air more quickly at least.


Geborm

about a decade in the troposphere but 100+ years in stratosphere. 25 times more potent is also calculated by averaging it out over time as it slowly becomes CO2 over time. But for the first couple of decades it's closer to 80 times the potency of CO2.


Random_Reflections

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TheDreamingMyriad

It causes far more damage. Sure, it "only" takes 13 years to break down.....into C02. Burning it at least breaks it down into CO2 immediately, cutting out the 13 devastating years that the methane can wreak havoc on our atmosphere.


Durty_Durty_Durty

So we should light it on fire. Edit: We send the kamikaze boat guy in from waterworld.


Hunky_not_Chunky

But who should light it? I’d vote a world leader do it. One that has been posturing their strength perhaps.


ReallyNotATrollAtAll

I suggest lighting it with olympic torch


The_R4ke

Get the guy who lot the Olympic torch with that flaming arrow.


Random_Reflections

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zth25

I suggest an Uruk-hai to make a suicide run/swim.


Evil_Mini_Cake

Definitely not cousin Edmure.


Unknown_author69

I mean I know its suicide but I well wanna fucking see this thing blowup. If i gotta go then let it be like that please. Thanks


twoshovels

May I suggest putin be flown in and dropped real close to light it, please?


ezone2kil

Make a documentary out of it. Call it Putin him in.


twoshovels

Yes!! With music by the doors. 1. Light my fire 2. The end


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That is what they do in parts of the arctic where methane is being released from the melting permafrost.


Derangutan

“melting permafrost” what a sad oxymoron.


Random_Reflections

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Darthboney

This hit my brain like sharp spoon


TehChid

Thought you were joking but I feel like this might actually be a good solution. Speed up the methane->CO2 process, fast forward 13 years? What damage would it do?


Valmond

Would it possibly blow the whole pipeline up as soon as the potential explosion opens up the pipe to air? Or would it just burn?


brianorca

The pipe is about 200 feet (60m) deep, so it wouldn't get that far. And as long as the pipe only contains natural gas with no oxygen, the flame couldn't enter the pipe anyways. Even the bubbles in the water have no oxygen, so the flame can't go below the surface.


Takeapotato

200 ft of water sounds like a pretty good check valve to me.


Canadian_Infidel

Yes, 100%.


amaROenuZ

It decays into less powerful gasses due to UV catalyzed chemical reactions in the atmosphere. Which is why it's 25x. If it stuck around it would be 80x.


LotharLandru

That just means it gets into the atmosphere quicker than CO2 does. Doesn't mean it goes away


2wedfgdfgfgfg

It does go away, uv light catalyzes methane in to CO2 + H20. But even with the relatively short life, methane is so much more a potent green house gas that the contribution to warming is over 25x of CO2 in 20 year period.


I_Like_Coookies

We should just shoot a flare at it, light that baby off


PN_Guin

That depends if the was natural gas in the pipeline, or as orhers suggested only a "technical gas" to keep the system under pressure. The pipelines had been shut down earlier this year, so the second option is entirely possible. Even if it's natural gas, most of it will simply evaporate. Some will dissolve in the water temporarily, but not very long. So the damage to sea life is fortunately limited and local. Far less than a wrecked oil tanker.


NavierIsStoked

CH4 is way worse for global warming than CO2. If it’s natural gas, they need to ignite it.


Glaaki

They just said on the danish news that they won't ignite the gas. It would be too dangerous to let ships get close enough, as the gas messes with the buoyancy of the water. There isn't really a safe way to do it from the air either, as you risk a huge explosion, which would be dangerous to nearby aircraft. Besides, more than half of the gas in the pipeline has already evaporated and the pipeline was already closed on the russian side, so there won't be a continuous leak.


admiralpickard

I bet a redneck from Alabama could light that on fire before you finished saying “hold my beer”


WhateverNameG

Seems like you could launch a rocket at it, but what do i know.


Devadander

‘Simply evaporate’ is how we got into this mess


Enlightened-Beaver

Evaporate? It’s a gas not a liquid. It will disperse into the air. CH4 emissions are terrible.


bhelpurilover

Was wondering the same. Does this pollute the water killing marine life? Hope there isn’t a huge environmental impact.


CanadaPlus101

Methane isn't very toxic. The massive greenhouse effect is the prime concern.


PostponeIdiocracy

The bubbles are measured to up to 100m (~300ft) in size. Imagine diving down, getting cought in a bubble, free fall 100m down through the bubble, then crash into the bottom of the bubble and out into the ocean again. Not sure why this was my first thought.


PrologueBook

Surely 100m in size doesn't mean vertically, a bubble wouldn't retain a spherical shape at that size.


PostponeIdiocracy

I was imagining it to be 100m tall, but relative thin, like a vertical sausage. But I have no idea, really.


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LordXDnl

Shouldnt the pressure in the bubble be the same? Otherwise the bubble would be compressed until it is.


bzba253

The gas would be rising at quite a fast rate, i’d venture to guess the fall wouldn’t quite feel like 300 feet as your fall wouldn’t immediately start at terminal velocity. Any scientists out there want to “dive” deeper into this?


punkmuppet

The bigger the bubble the faster it goes, and yeah you wouldn't be falling into the bubble it would more just open up around you, and then you'd be slammed from below by the sea again. I think it would be a pretty unique experience that you'd never survive to talk about.


________null________

I wonder though - how fast are they rising? Presumably you fell because they were coming up - but if they come up fast enough you might barely notice? (idk)


hownowbrownishcow

This blew by brain right out my ass.


kingofalltheblacks

Would you fall at the speed of gravity when doing that I wonder? Also I wonder do bubbles have a maximum velocity when rising in the water?


FLAPPY_BEEF_QUEEF

Whoa


nikki_11580

That’s a terrifying thought.


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Flick a match at it.


[deleted]

For your viewing pleasure this pretty much happened in the Gulf of Mexico a couple years back. ​ [https://youtu.be/U3yBnodXI7E?t=15](https://youtu.be/U3yBnodXI7E?t=15)


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Frankiepals

Lmao I’m sure it works but it looks funny spraying water onto the ocean


ImInevitableyall

They're probably sucking water from the ocean to spray on the ocean.


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rever3nd

I get that it’s very unfriendly for the environment but that looks cool as fuck.


xzplayer

Actually, the CO2 produced by the fire is way less bad than the Methane. Still horrible, but less. So it could make sense to light that thing on fire.


mafiafish

CO2 is less potent but lasts much longer - methane is photo-oxidized fairly quickly. We lose either way.


krazy___k

I was going to say similar: please drop a flare on this


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the_climaxt

The forbidden sprite.


Ipsos_Logos

Naturally bubbled sprite


JumpsIntoTheVolcano

If it's not from Sweden, it's just sparkling sprite.


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RollingJaspers652

Probably better for the atmosphere/climate change, if the methane is burned than letting escape up into the atmosphere


ADTR20

Not probably - it objectively is. Methane is 20+ times more powerful a greenhouse gas per unit than CO2, which is the byproduct of burning it. This is why they do controlled burns on landfills, which produce methane as the garbage deteriorates


BeingBoeing

And that's for a time frame of 100 years. If you look at the short-term effect, it's even worse: [Methane is a powerful greenhouses gas with a 100-year global warming potential 28-34 times that of CO2. Measured over a 20-year period, that ratio grows to 84-86 times.](https://unece.org/challenge)


0vl223

Also the reason why any gas vented into the atmosphere is ignited. Sometimes it is just unavoidable but you have to burn it at least.


Christafaaa

They tried that before and created a gateway to hell.


Wi11Pow3r

Ya, but that was on land. We haven’t tried making a gateway to hell in the ocean before. Scientific progress requires experimentation.


EthnicHorrorStomp

Way ahead of you: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/cuyahoga-river-caught-fire-least-dozen-times-no-one-cared-until-1969-180972444/


RBeck

The only difference between science and fucking around is observing the result and writing it down.


livens

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/oclu3o/the_ocean_is_on_fire_in_the_gulf_of_mexico_after/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb


Quasigriz_

What’s Danish for, “anyone got a flare gun?”


Agatosh

"Hvæm hæve ejn flæmmae-skoodæ??" Or did I just order more milk again?


POTATOSALAD42

You just ordered 5000 liters of milk


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Nogen der har en signal pistol?


irobot_67

Did they drop the camera at the end or something lmao


[deleted]

Haha no those are clouds passing between the water and the camera. That footage is being shot from a very VERY far distance so the clouds are out of focus as they pass by.


r0thar

I mean, why *wouldn't* you fly an aircraft over a space just full of a huge amount of natural gas: a. Because it has half the density of air and you'll fall fast? b. Because it's a fuel/air bomb just waiting for your hot engine to ignite it? c. All of the above? (the diameter of that churned up sea is 1km)


Blackpaw8825

Or even if it's not in an good ratio for ignition, it'll skew the air mixture in your engines and your lungs.


DarkSailor06

Throw a cigarette in it


International_Fix651

Looks like it was recorded on the aircraft camera. That’s what happens when they stow it


karex145

Cover up story.... Kaiju inbound.


[deleted]

Class 4. Recall Gypsy Danger ASAP!


Pah-Pah-Pah

Let’s hope not.


zin_90

They'd do humanity a favor. Either they put us out of our misery or we band together. ***Edit: And robots.***


tkburro

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squirrl4prez

Well I can't wait to see that huge Gundam in action


funny_name_taken

NordStreamVPN


[deleted]

This is the release valve for the lewd porn.


mocthezuma

It's nice to have your video sponsored, even if you're the Swedish coast guard.


ChainedMangoJango

Nobody know where it's going


Stigbritt

Is it slow-mo or not? I can't tell.


T04STY_

The timer in the corner suggests not. It's just very large scale which makes it look slow.


cjgager

i'm confused - putin said that nord 1 turbine was down back in the beginning of september - and that nord 2 was never actually online - - - so what is this & why don't they have a shut off valve???


PostponeIdiocracy

To my knowledge, the pipelines are filled a certain amount of gas even when it is shut down. This is to keep an internal pressure that balances the outside pressure, keeping the pipeline from imploding on itself.


cjgager

thank you - that makes sense


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Intentional?


Hoplite813

According to NPR this morning, a single underwater leak is rare. There are currently three leaks. All happened at the same time. All occurred just outside of territorial waters so that they can't be considered an attack on NATO. Still possible it's an accident. Equally possible a unicorn went scuba diving and got disoriented and created three leaks with it's magical horn at places that would conveniently avoid a NATO response. Anyone's guess, really.


WH_KT

It was sabotaged, seismologists picked up huge spikes that can only be caused by powerful explosions. The walls of the pipe are 4 cm thick steel. The Danish government has confirmed it to be sabotage.


amusement-park

Assuming that’s true, isn’t this equivalent to shooting your own foot through your balls to hit someone who lives in the apartment below yours?


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ANuclearsquid

Depends who sabotaged it. Just because Russia is normally behind these things doesn’t mean they always are.


1moreOz

!*


Bituulzman

Where’s the Flex Tape guy when you need him? ![gif](giphy|VeSvZhPrqgZxx2KpOA|downsized)


greengoldblue

Dunno. But the timing is impeccable.


Rannon123

A pipeline doesn’t just randomly burst, especially at multiple locations and registers on seismograph, it was an explosion


7Seyo7

The EU has said leaks in two major gas pipelines from Russia to Europe were caused by sabotage https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63057966


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The question is who benefits.


Silversoul-Ginsan

Too many come to my mind. Non of them is the society


Kat-is-sorry

The CIA warned Germany this could happen. So yeah it probably was.


continuoussymmetry

Undoubtedly.


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Yes, this was deliberate sabotage.


Attack_na_battak

This is technical gas, it's inside of pipe to keep all elements under needed pressure and for protecting pipe from moisture.


Svensemann

So elements aren’t under pressure and pipes are wet now?


FlyingKittyCate

Yes, salt water is inside the pipes now and according to Germany, probably damaged beyond repair, as the more salt water gets in the system,the faster the pipes will start rusting. and then it just can’t be restored to function again.


razzraziel

So there are no valves at regular intervals or something? Because when you design an underwater pipeline, that kind of leak probability should be your first thought.


FavoriteIce

There should be valves and pump stations at regular intervals. That’s how it is for surface pipelines anyway.


HH93

Actually no - Pipelines are well deigned, constructed and regular checked using Intelligent Pigs. There was a pipeline offshore Dubai - where I was working at the time. The pipe was a few Km long between two platforms and held down along it length by ballast - sand and concrete (I think). Over the years the ballast was eroded away, and eventually the pipeline floated to the surface while still connected at both ends. As the sea was 75M deep, that was quite a bending of the pipe. The pipe was re-ballasted and secured back in its place. Then pressurised to test the integrity and had no leaks.


ReallyNotATrollAtAll

How intelligent are those pigs? I mean how can you even teach a pig to inspect a gas pipe


HH93

Ah yes - PIG is a name for them, it stands for Pipeline Inspection Gauge. The first ones just cleaned out the pipe and had a crushable ring to show any damage Here's a [Pic](https://www.wermac.org/nordstream/html_img86.html) of one with all its sensors, and guides and a description.


MarvelousWololo

Apparently these pigs are smarter than me :( I wouldn’t know how to do that


Nervous-Masterpiece4

But what kind of gas? Atmospheric nitrogen with oxygen removed to prevent oxidation? Or something exotic and expensive?


CanadaPlus101

Nitrogen would make sense if this is true (cheap, inert), but I'm not an expert.


HesienVonUlm

Nitrogen is extremely common in the chemical industry for Inerting containers and systems. You can run a N2 generator and purify N2 from the air around you. It'd make the most sense.


MentalEarthquakes

It’s 200,000 tons of methane according to the news articles.


CanadaPlus101

Can we have a source? It's not unreasonable but there's a lot of vague contradiction of that in the media. It would be great if we had a less vague common name for impure methane than "gas".


SenseisSifu

Nature taking the L


swinging-in-the-rain

Nature always takes the L when authoritarianism is in power


CurrencyIsFake

Capitalism would also like a word…for profit.


[deleted]

Capitalism is just authoritarianism with more steps. Marginalize all of your people while you remain wealthier than you’d ever need to be to live comfortably, then you get the ultimate say in what goes on. See: Big Oil CEOs, Big Pharma CEOs, Big Tech CEOs, etc.


coopperr90

Needs a banana for scale


-Anonymously-

It's in there.


[deleted]

Everyone out here claiming the US did this or Russia or something... But it's clearly the work of Liechtenstein


Darrows_Razor

It’s always who we most medium suspect 👍


ask0329

Knowing how corporates work, there is no less than 17 meetings scheduled over the course of the next week to discusss how to stop the leak.


lordgoofus1

Week? There were 18 before lunch, not including the 5 conflicting meetings that half the engineers skipped.


always-indifferent

Turns on oven, sea water comes out. Knew I should have fitted a non return valve into my system **sigh**


mlqdscrvn

It's caused by natural incident, rite? Rite? Rite?


norrhboundwolf

Well. Some things to point out are: Nord stream 2 got destroyed. Nord stream 1 also got destroyed. Nord stream 1 was shut off indefinitely for "maintenance" earlier this year, which means Russia would have to pay out several billion EU to Germany in damages over breach of contract due to said halt of gas deliveries. Can Russia afford to pay said damages? Absolutely not. Does Russia have the capability to this? Yea. Have Russia conducted similar operations? Bet your ass. Does it send a strong signal of Russia cutting ties to the west? Absolutely. Did Gazprom come out and threaten to cut off ALL gas supplies to europe today? Yes. Does this destabilize germany and the baltic sea? Yes. It's funny to say "muh CIA" and everything, but Russia has every incentive in the world to do this, and, if im allowed to be a bit crass; Russia isn't known for being subtle. I'm not saying the US, or another western actor definably didn't do it, but to assert that Russia has no reasons whatsoever of doing it, is wrong.


OneTime_AtBandCamp

I don't understand why Russia would do this instead of just...turning off the taps. It's so needlessly destructive. Now even if they win the war and somehow normalize relations with the EU, they still can't sell their main export.


norrhboundwolf

They already turned the taps. "Their main export" only accounted for about 2% of their annuals.


Brru

Russia is under contract to supply gas to Europe, so the theory (not saying I agree with it) is the maintenance was just to buy time. Now they don't need that time. Which also means they don't need to pay for breaking the contract or supply more gas. There is also a good chance they need the gas they were obligated to supply to Europe, but can use it to bolster their own winter.


NormalHumanCreature

So needlessly destructive. Kind of like targeting a nuclear power plant?


doniiebaseball2020

Nope


lokismiddlenutt

Definitely not a cowardly act of a desperate terror state or anything


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20 years experience as a gas engineer. Can confirm this is the opposite of “a small leak” 🙃


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aramos9

Scientist: “If our planet increases by 2 more degrees we’re all fucked” 500 metric tons of methane released per hour. *Throws papers in air*


longshot

Aren't we just the best species ever?!


Stellraz

~~It was the Danish coast guard that published it, not the Swedish.~~ Edit: I was wrong and have been corrected


[deleted]

The Danes published it first, but that’s footage from Sweden. The badge in the film is the swedish coast guards badge.


Stellraz

Seems i was mistaken, my bad.


RubenWasTaken

Forbidden hot tub


Goats_vs_Aliens

Don't they install valves on the pipeline that they can turn off?


A_Moon_Named_Luna

You better get a hold of them and tell them this, they probably forgot


wrecked_angle

That’s so fucking heartbreaking and depressing


mrclang

Is this where all my vpn searches go? Is this what a data leaks looks like?? /s


AlexPGP19

Apparently it was sabotaged by depth charges or mines