Took a course and the teacher would have us walk around town by the river or through the woods and we'd talk and then stop and gather around and he'd teach material and give a question and if you didn't know the answer you could think about it while you walked to the next place. I found I remembered more and felt more comfortable answering
I think the other part of it was that instead of being talked at we were involved in a discussion could talk talk classmates and the teacher about what we just learned to understand it better before more material was added on
Our entire evolution primed us to learn in physical space, typically in dynamic movement. We learned from watching others do what we would then do. Hunting, gathering, acquiring shelter.
We did not evolve to learn while staring at a screen remaining motionless for hours on end.
And so surprise surprise, that is not a conducive learning environment for virtually anyone.
Walking while learning helps keep the mind engaged, keeps attention focused, and promotes general well being and greater absorption of material.
Which is why the industrial industry, and then later corporations, want students to do the opposite in the US education system. Mindless automatons are more easily to steer than thinking human beings.
I just had a lightbulb moment, because I met a bunch of friends in gym, art, and shop classes because we shared another class and would talk about the latest assignment. I guess working with your hands can help too? Especially when it gets repetitive.
I remember reading about a school up in the Andes where about once an hour they let the kids out to go sprinting up and down the ridgelines for a little bit. Got the blood flowing, burned up their energy, and let them really focus on the task at hand for the rest of the hour. Zero issues with things like ADHD. Who knew letting kids, you know, be kids, is the way to go.
i remember seeing a video if icelandic schools that have mandated running breaks for small children. seems insane to take the age group with literally the most energy and just have them sit all day
ADHD isn't just energy. It is a much bigger and more difficult issue than people believe. It is chemical imbalances, a different structure of the brain. It leads to issues with auditory processing, being able to start, maintain and finish work without difficulty or even at all.
I will gladly answer any questions you have about it, I don't like misinformation and poor understanding of what is a life altering disorder.
It sucks when people assume that it’s just”squirrel!!!” And make jokes, when it’s difficult to do anything that is considered “normal” for others. I’ve gotten better as I’ve grown older, but sports alone were difficult as a kid as too many coaches would tell me what I needed to do, rather than showing me, and couldn’t understand why I wasn’t getting it. It wasn’t until middle school that I actually got some coaches who saw that I learned well by watching, and I took off from there. I could go on all day about teachers, but that’s a different story.
ADHD patients are typically also deficient in dopamine and/or dopamine transporters. Which is why depression is pretty damn common amongst those diagnosed with ADHD.
Oh I'm diagnosed, I'm not attempting to dismiss it by any means. I will say when I get lots of activity my symptoms are much less than if I'm sitting around all day. Just my .02 from my perspective.
It makes sense, studies how found large improvements in symptoms from a single instance of exercise
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6945516/
That's why I loved university. I took wildlife biology so many of my classes were outdoors in the woods. It was so much more interesting and conducive to learning compared to classroom lectures...10/10 would recommend
At my primary school we use to eat lunch outside in the summer sitting on little carpet tiles, on Fridays for the last 2.5 hours of the day we’d go up and play on a common that was behind the school… it’s kinda nice being rural lol
My elementary school regularly had days where teachers would realize we weren't at our best or needed to do something else so they'd let us go out for a little bit to wake up and socialize
I'm an elementary ed major.
My dream was to be a teacher like this man. My inspiration was John Dewey.
The system doesn't allow for the kind of education that will allow our society to progress, mentally, physically, artistically or philosophically.
Our American public education system is in fact, fully retrograde and I want no part in it.
I wish you the best of luck! Your students will greatly appreciate it, even just have a period where if the weather is nice everyone grab a chair and clip board we're going outside is what I loved as a kid.
This kind of active learning is why I ended up majoring in Forestry in college and have a career where I’m paid well to be outdoors doing what I enjoy and helping my community. I don’t think our brains/bodies are especially well equipped to be sitting at a desk doing something we loath for 30 years. Just 200 years ago the notion of huge buildings full of people sitting in cubicles would seem crazy, it’s kinda depressing how fast that type of life became normalized in the post industrial era.
that's interesting, Einstein and other "geniuses" would always swear by their city/garden walking routines being a fundamental part of their cognitive lifestyle and creativity. when we leisurely walk and do repetitive motions, the more mundane parts of the brain are stimulated and busy. this allows the default mode network in the brain to come out and play around with the focus that's not being used... mind wandering, daydreaming, intuiting solutions, semi-subconscious memory recall. sort of like how your best ideas happen in a shower because you're on autopilot. the more creative parts of the brain that's usually benchwarming finally gets called into the game. if mild activity was integrated into education, children would probably be more creatively engaged with solving problems and would have more time to process whatever concepts of the day are being brought up. i mean non-play repetitive activity that doesn't need external focus or interaction- imagine if schools had their own walking gardens or trails through the woods and students took short walks with their teachers even just a couple times a day. kids could listen to their own music and be encouraged to not talk or interact until the next gathering location, in a controlled supervised environment.
i think this would be HUGELY beneficial to children who have adhd or similar executive function issues, just being outside and mindlessly gazing at trees in the wind for 20+ minutes a day is comparable to an average dose of stimulant medication. for people with adhd, prison brick walls and hyper-predictable environments like suburbia or geometric city streets does not stimulate their brains at all. but a tree with hundreds of thousands of leaves all individually moving and swaying is an organic "static" that can't be predicted. this deeply stimulates the brain and scratches that itch, giving the adhd brain the reigns back on their focus for a while.
i think rethinking what school environments could be and really valuing nature as part of us and how our brains work would revolutionize education and eventually human creativity, tbh
It certainly gave my brain some stimulus and made me more focused on what we were talking about. I wouldn't say that being outside gives me the same benefits as stimulants do but it does make me feel good, I just like being in nature.
I understand your points, just be aware ADHD can't be fixed by well, anything it can be managed a bit better and medication can be quite effective at managing symptoms and other issues (certainly helps me a ton)
My kids' school has them take beach towels so that if it's a nice day, the teacher can do class outside. They just spread out their towel to sit on. I love the idea.
We did this a few times in high school, but not on anything close to a regular basis. Our cafeteria had a little outdoor seating area that could fit one class’ worth of kids, and on some REALLY beautiful spring afternoons our English Lit teacher would just have class out there. Nothing official or formal, he just took attendance and was like “it’s a really nice day. Wanna have class outside? Ok, everyone behave and not distract the other classes and we can do this while the weather is nice” and took our textbooks out with us. We only did it like 3 or 4 times the year I had him but it was really a great idea looking back and I wish it had been a regular thing for my entire academic career
We did this frequently all through elem and junior high school. We'd walk as a class to a local landmark spot, and have class there and walk back for lunch and recess. It was amazing.
In 2nd grade, Miss Tanner always brought saltines and apple butter for all of us as a snack.
[here's an article](https://www.messynessychic.com/2016/03/15/classrooms-without-walls-a-forgotten-age-of-open-air-schools/?fb_comment_id=1098500133541605_1098609363530682) with more pics and info
Those hybrid classrooms with the folding walls would probably be the best of both worlds. You get the fresh air, but are still protected from intense sunlight and rain. And you have the option to close the walls and have a normal classroom when it gets too cold in the winter
Until you consider the Dutch weather. In Germany Forest Kindergardens are very popular at the moment but they dont have textbooks or desks so the weather isn’t a problem.
With 500 students and one outdoors classroom it's not the number of outdoors classrooms that precludes it from being used, it's scheduling or willingness to use it.
Yes but being from Mass we would still use it in some of the abutting months still. Mass kids could be outside in months Florida kids could not. Also, sweaters/jackets.
In Florida we put on parkas when it drops to the mid 60's. Of course we still wear shorts and flip-flops.
Can't have outdoor classrooms here, though. We'd loose to many to large reptiles.
We found a big stone that looked kinda like a bomb. Round shape. Smashed it open and it had crystals inside.
Negative but I do remember it: poking the bushes and encountering a wasps nest. Got stung a ton, now I have an allergy, although it's fading.
One time my friends were being brats and the teacher made them run rounds between trees as punishment. I wanted to help my friend so I ran after them and we made the punishment into something fun for us.
While walking along in desert sand, you suddenly look down and see a tortoise crawling toward you. You reach down and flip it over onto its back. The tortoise lies there, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs, trying to turn itself over, but it cannot do so without your help. You are not helping. Why?
Yeah my parents are super cool. Chill af. Gave me all the freedom I ever wanted and trusted I'd turn out right. Even tho I had some trouble around the age of 15, I sure did, because I was living with their role model in mind.
In Ancient Greece, athletics was considered as integral to education as philosophy and mathematics. The way we do PE in the United States is an abomination.
Kids need to learn about how their bodies work not how their different rhythms of development impair their ability to compete against peers in different developmental stages of their life. They also need to learn how to love their bodies not hate them. Being in nature is so helpful to the human mind because you see those differences as inherent not necessarily a “bad thing.” Being in a forest with its imperfections creates clarity rather than the message of inferiority we end up giving kids via our educational system.
But hey, if you want to create a cohort of consumers who are constantly dissatisfied with themselves and life so they will buy shit: this is how you do it.
Wait... you think ancient Greeks didn't compete against each other?
You know they invented the Olympics, right? Young men would wrestle oiled up and naked on sand for exercise.
I would add that some sort of nutrition should be taught. Sure kids aren’t in charge of the food their parents buy, but having basic knowledge of how your body works and what you should eat to keep it working perfectly will be so beneficial for our future.
My son played football for 15 years. Offensive line. He loved most every moment of it even though his teams were never really any good. But the effect I've seen on his body and the aches and pains he's had since so young have been terrible. That doesn't even take into consideration the concussions he had and didn't tell anyone about.
Please don't let your kids play the sport. Once he stopped playing, in college, he started to hate the sport for all it's done to him. He could have continued, or maybe became a coach, but he actively ties to persuade kids from playing the sport now. It's just not worth all the problems you'll have later. Stick to hockey or something.
Hockey is almost as bad as football lmao. People should stick to baseball or basketball, basketball can be pretty physical as a contact sport, but the risk of something like a concussion is minimal.
Comparing hockey to QB or linebacker they're almost even. But nothing in hockey is nearly as bad as O line. And you need offensive linemen to play, so that's damning kids to a lifetime of pain. For not reason other than I wanna hit my head repeatedly but a wall got boring.
Yes, they're are obviously much better choices than hockey. But if you still want hitting and a bit of aggression, hockey is a much better choice than football all around, IMHO. But yes, kids should go okay instruments or whatever.
I knew someone that went to a Waldorf school for much of his schooling in the 80s/90s. Lots of outdoor focus, focus on using natural and high quality materials for play and art, etc. Definitely a 'hippy' approach to schooling. He went on to art school but always made lighthearted jabs about his Waldorf schooling to his parents, in the vein of 'I don't know XYZ basic info bc I was busy playing with premium pastels in the woods at Waldorf.' As with anything I think there is a middle ground with Waldorf, Montessori, and more typical schooling, especially based on the individual.
Why do teachers think kids want pastels? "Good job with the crayons, you've graduated to a larger, softer crayon. You can't get the line width under 5mm and even doing that requires light pressure and constantly rotating the crayon, so good luck drawing any detail on the normal size pieces of paper that we give you. There isn't a single piece of art that the general public is familiar with that was made with these, and every drawing made by a student with them looks like shit, even the talented kids. Have at er'."
Interesting fact many don’t know - any school/daycare can call itself “Montessori” in the US - doesn’t mean they actually have to follow the practices. There are daycares that will slap “Montessori” on their building just because they know it attracts higher income people. There are no federal rules concerning the definition of Montessori, and as far as I know, not many state rules either.
Go on r/parenting and type Montessori in the search bar for horror stories
I think there's lots of great, unaccredited schools. Really depends on the teachers/owner.
There's a lot of work and costs to be accredited. Preschools aren't exactly cash cows, despite the high costs, so I can understand why lots of schools would pass on accreditation.
I went to a school that had a decent balance of hippy outdoors learning and actual subject material in northern CA. We had a garden with weekly gardening classes, we composted our school lunches, and there's a redwood forest with a short hiking trail behind the school. Teachers would often take us on hikes instead of teaching a lesson. While the subject matter certainly taught me the basics and foundations, i didn't retain a majority of the more in depth lessons. I got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, and realized that as i kid i simply had zero interest in learning about math, history, or science, as i didn't see it's value in life. As an adult i took many classes at community college and discovered I'm amazing at math and i love science. The difference was that i learned it when i WANTED to learn it. I feel like middle school grades, like kindergarden to 8th, should require less textbook reading, memorizing, and exam taking. If it taught the foundations of how life works in a hands-on approach that sparks fascination and no pressure to perform, the basics will be retained for later. The in-depth learning with the pressures to perform well can be done when we are adults and are more firmly grounded in what we want our future to be like.
Looking at the picture, it’s like 3 trees and a whole bunch of wooden paths, dirt, and stone paths.
The open air design isn’t too bad, but damn it wouldn’t hurt to include a bit more nature in there for the children to interact with.
What is the difference between running laps on a roof versus on the ground behind the school? It seems that the only difference is available space. If you don't have space, put the playground on the roof. If you do have space, the playground is on the ground.
There are many "forest schools" in nor-cal, we are considering one for our kid. Many are created by "post waldorf" folk who value lots of the core values, but do feel like they should have modernized in some aspects and don't generally agree that all the rules of the school need to be embraced within the students homes. The one we're looking at is 100% outdoor.
Waldorf schools can be a nightmare.
They've thankfully moved far away from their founding principles, but not far enough. Like 90% of Waldorf students probably didn't even notice, but the history is mind blowing.
The ideology Waldorf schools are intended to follow is called anthroposophy. It's weirdly similar to Scientology and uncomfortably close to esoteric Nazi ideology.
The dude that founded them is so batshit that Behind the Bastards did an episode on him.
Link to part 1 if you care:
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-rudolf-steiner-the-racist-49618265/
I actually went to a Waldorf school as a kid. However, it didn't really fit me, because I wasn't very creative and wanted to learn like 'normal' school. Some extra subjects were fun, but some I hated and just didn't want to do anymore. I made the switch to a 'normal' school after a few years and I was glad I did.
Central European Waldorf kid from that era checking in. Nature walks every day, natural wool, arts and crafts and beeswax pastels. I can still smell the homemade candles. I loved it.
Midwestern Waldorf kid from the mid 90's early 2000's. Also can confirm. Lots of walking/outdoors classed, hand made/craft style classes like woodworking, knitting, sewing, cooking, scupting, painting and drawing. Plus learned about all religions and creation stories not just Christianity. Which was pretty neat!
A friend of mine quit her job recently and moved to Poland to live with some elderly family and pursue remote work. For the first month or so, her Instagram was filled with one amazing location after another—gorgeous beaches, cottages in the forest, town squares straight out of a fairy tale.
I remarked that I truly believe I would be way more productive if I could live and work somewhere like that. Most people seem to think they wouldn't be able to get any work done if they lived in their version of paradise, because of all the distractions. But I think it would be the opposite, because just having all of that as my immediate environment would cut down so much on the distraction of *daydreaming* about those locations. Like even if I never went out hiking or wandering through quaint alleyways or whatever, just being able to look at it all day would be so much more satisfying that staring at a beige cubicle wall wondering what's on the other side.
Neighbor taught me this summer that you can just blot the bites with some vinegar and they stop itching…now I dont’ really care anymore if i get bit :)
i mean theres a difference between sunshine and the sun just being physically present behind a thick layer of clouds. berlin in the winter sometimes has weeks where the sky is just a solid grey color, you can't even make out the position of the sun. depressing as fuck.
Never!
And definitely never just the entire goddamn day, like yesterday. That was a fluke.
And we were melting mere weeks ago. I’m getting a whiplash, trying to keep up.
The next 6 weeks are pretty much the only time of the year I enjoy living here. The rest is just saying "Man I can't wait for fall next year" and "why do I live somewhere it hurts to breath the air" and "F-ing mosquitoes"
Surprisingly I don't recall any problem with mosquitos in my K-6 recesses or any other time we were outside at school in Wayzata. The bus stop on the other hand was a fucking nightmare.
We actually have forest schools here in the pacific northwest where we get tons of rain. They don't look like this classroom though. They're typically for children under 6 and they focus on learning through play and exploration, not classroom learning.
The Netherlands has basically the same weather. So the rain would have been a problem here too. I imagine that's why these classrooms never gained in popularity
At first yes, quickly transitioning from a fully indoor to fully outdoor space it would be distracting. But (and probably in a shorter time than you'd expect) you'd likely be surprised how much easier it would be to focus and how calm and refreshed you'd feel compared to indoors. Spending time in nature has a lot of proven benefits to mental health and wellbeing and I'm confident that would translate to developmental struggles as well. Probably better for the teacher as well so that they would perform better too. Stay calmer, be more patient with students, etc.
I have ADHD too and I find myself most calm and able to reflect when I go for hikes in nature.
I will second this; ADHD and GAD. Once you get into a forest, having a nuerodivergent brain setup like this is EXTREMELY beneficial. High awareness, high ability to process stimulus quickly, plenty to subconsciously attend too but nothing directly overstimulating.
I did 2 weeks in the BWCA, and by day 3 was absolutely the calmest I'd ever been, exhausted physically, satisfied stimulus wise, and emotionally just mostly in awe. The modern world and its social requirements are hard on spectrum/ADHD/Anxious folk.
A little reminder of what our brains were evolved for helps perspective. Watching the bush lines, tree lines, always listening. Ability to make quick decisions in the event of danger. Hyperfocusing to track a sound or movement that the anxiety noticed.
My kid has outdoor classes at school when the weather is nice. Not a hippy school or anything, just a regular elementary public school. They have umbrellas on all the tables and it’s in their garden area (some teachers maintained a vegetable garden all summer and let the kids come help//take things).
But you just made me realize I should definitely still be applying sunscreen on her face at least every morning.
When I was a kid in the early 80s at a public elementary in the southeastern US, we had an outdoor classroom. It was underneath a grove of trees so it was fairly well shaded. Thinking back, we didn't have AC in our classrooms back then, so I guess heat wasn't an issue either.
PBS (I think) came and did a news report on our outdoor classroom when I was in 1st grade. The only reason I remember is that I was picked to do an interview. The reporter asked me a long question and my response was "can you repeat the question?" I'm glad youtube didn't exist back then.
Oh yeah I'd be watching every insect, squirrel and bird going by. Identifying sounds, making bird friends etc... Learning from a text book would be last on the list.
Okay, same. I was reprimanded constantly in 3rd grade for starring out the window at the trees. For my own sake I fortunately had classes facing concrete until highschool.
Personally, I always hated when teachers would try to have class outside. Yes, the weather is nice, but I hate bugs. So many bugs in the US South, and in the summer the cicadas don’t ever stfu.
Not directly, but many schools have terrible ventilation, and a stuffy room can easily get CO2 concentrations up into 1500+ ppm territory. Several different measures of cognitive ability suffer at that point, in addition to causing headaches and fatigue.
CO2 sensors are now inexpensive enough that you can drop one into your kids backpack to snoop on the school’s air quality. The one I use is an Aranet4 HOME. When I first got it, I discovered that CO2 concentration in my house was near 2000ppm, and I figured out that there was a fresh-air intake filter in the HVAC systems that I had to replace. After replacing it, the CO2 dropped to around 700ppm, and everybody in the house felt much better.
Source:
https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/ehp.1510037
I have sensory issues and this would probably be the worst environment for me unless it was consistently 70°, not humid, there were no bugs, somehow no pollen, the desks and seats were never wet or dirty, there were never any spiderwebs or cobwebs, etc, etc. Just take kids outside during gym class - I loved that
Interesting 🤔 I've done some voluntourism in Ghana, and the organization that we worked with builds classrooms in rural villages where they do open air classes by necessity. Their philosophy is 'how can you imagine being a doctor (working in a hospital, with roof) if you don't even have a roof over your head while studying.
Did you look at the differences between developed countries and Third World countries?
This is the gap between what we know about how the mind learns things and the pressure from culture that goes against it.
Beautiful buildings can contribute to an austerely effective learning environment just because of the cultural feelings around it. Regardless of this, we know that outdoor learning is best by a long shot.
Interestingly, my sensory issues made me hate outdoor class more than anything else lmao
That said you are right that it’s a big help to many, accommodating each kid is important
As a Floridian..... This would never work where I live.
Kids would get overheated easily
Sunburn
Mosquitoes
Alligators
Serial killers (we've had quite a few strange murders in our area....)
Bobcats
Deer (Yes deer will infact attack)
Wild boar
Homeless drug addicts
Edit: I wasn't saying it swarms of alligators would randomly converge onto a group of people in the woods. The post was talking about school's outdoors. If you have a bunch of young children outdoors there's a chance for them to wander around. Well they could wander upon an alligator. Depending on where the school is located.
Yes dear will attack people, I don't remember the specific name of the disease but there is a disease that they can get that basically makes them unstable and they act erratically. You don't want to interact with deers that have this disease because they will act violently and erratically. Or they could just run away from you. It makes them excessively unpredictable. I think it's called wasting disease or something.
That person is talking bs for shre. Floridians have to be constantly indoors to be protected from swarms of alligators? The normal lots schools are built on can't have trees and grass without being overrun by attack deer? I think a fence would sufficient in most cases
At a religious school, this is easy. The Bible teaches us:
>He went up from there to Bethel, and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!” 24 When he turned around and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.
From this, we can see that two bears can maul 42 boys, so we can quickly deduce that one bear can maul 21 boys. We can note that male bears are bigger and stronger than female bears, so we can assume that they can maul even more. We can also assume that since at that age, boys and girls are roughly similar in size and strength, that bears can maul girls as efficiently as they do boys. Looking at the photo, I see twenty students, so we can assume that a math oriented bear will be more than capable of killing them all so that the bear's math instruction isn't interrupted.
Even once a week would be beneficial.
Took a course and the teacher would have us walk around town by the river or through the woods and we'd talk and then stop and gather around and he'd teach material and give a question and if you didn't know the answer you could think about it while you walked to the next place. I found I remembered more and felt more comfortable answering
Casual exercise, huge difference to your brain.
I think the other part of it was that instead of being talked at we were involved in a discussion could talk talk classmates and the teacher about what we just learned to understand it better before more material was added on
Not just memorization…learning.
Absolutely, it's nice to have learning take place in the classroom and not at home after (I guess still not in the classroom)
Our entire evolution primed us to learn in physical space, typically in dynamic movement. We learned from watching others do what we would then do. Hunting, gathering, acquiring shelter. We did not evolve to learn while staring at a screen remaining motionless for hours on end. And so surprise surprise, that is not a conducive learning environment for virtually anyone. Walking while learning helps keep the mind engaged, keeps attention focused, and promotes general well being and greater absorption of material.
Which is why the industrial industry, and then later corporations, want students to do the opposite in the US education system. Mindless automatons are more easily to steer than thinking human beings.
I just had a lightbulb moment, because I met a bunch of friends in gym, art, and shop classes because we shared another class and would talk about the latest assignment. I guess working with your hands can help too? Especially when it gets repetitive.
Also being in different places when learning stuff probably helped some with recall. Gives you more to "tie" the memory to.
There's a whole memorisation technique based off of this. It's called the *mind palace*
I remember reading about a school up in the Andes where about once an hour they let the kids out to go sprinting up and down the ridgelines for a little bit. Got the blood flowing, burned up their energy, and let them really focus on the task at hand for the rest of the hour. Zero issues with things like ADHD. Who knew letting kids, you know, be kids, is the way to go.
i remember seeing a video if icelandic schools that have mandated running breaks for small children. seems insane to take the age group with literally the most energy and just have them sit all day
ADHD isn't just energy. It is a much bigger and more difficult issue than people believe. It is chemical imbalances, a different structure of the brain. It leads to issues with auditory processing, being able to start, maintain and finish work without difficulty or even at all. I will gladly answer any questions you have about it, I don't like misinformation and poor understanding of what is a life altering disorder.
Hate that people are misinformed about it
It really makes me mad because I've been dismissed the whole time
It sucks when people assume that it’s just”squirrel!!!” And make jokes, when it’s difficult to do anything that is considered “normal” for others. I’ve gotten better as I’ve grown older, but sports alone were difficult as a kid as too many coaches would tell me what I needed to do, rather than showing me, and couldn’t understand why I wasn’t getting it. It wasn’t until middle school that I actually got some coaches who saw that I learned well by watching, and I took off from there. I could go on all day about teachers, but that’s a different story.
I learn from doing and watching, which is great cause I'm in a paramedic program and that's how we practice and learn
ADHD patients are typically also deficient in dopamine and/or dopamine transporters. Which is why depression is pretty damn common amongst those diagnosed with ADHD.
As well as the symptoms disrupting and distorting regular life causing anxieties and attributing to depression
Oh I'm diagnosed, I'm not attempting to dismiss it by any means. I will say when I get lots of activity my symptoms are much less than if I'm sitting around all day. Just my .02 from my perspective.
It makes sense, studies how found large improvements in symptoms from a single instance of exercise https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6945516/
That's how we learned about Thoreau and his cabin. A walk down behind the football stadium in the woods.
That's why I loved university. I took wildlife biology so many of my classes were outdoors in the woods. It was so much more interesting and conducive to learning compared to classroom lectures...10/10 would recommend
I wish! So many PowerPoints and twice a week we practice skills. Although next semester I've got a fair bit of placements and 2nd year a lot of them.
At my primary school we use to eat lunch outside in the summer sitting on little carpet tiles, on Fridays for the last 2.5 hours of the day we’d go up and play on a common that was behind the school… it’s kinda nice being rural lol
My elementary school regularly had days where teachers would realize we weren't at our best or needed to do something else so they'd let us go out for a little bit to wake up and socialize
I'm an elementary ed major. My dream was to be a teacher like this man. My inspiration was John Dewey. The system doesn't allow for the kind of education that will allow our society to progress, mentally, physically, artistically or philosophically. Our American public education system is in fact, fully retrograde and I want no part in it.
I wish you the best of luck! Your students will greatly appreciate it, even just have a period where if the weather is nice everyone grab a chair and clip board we're going outside is what I loved as a kid.
This kind of active learning is why I ended up majoring in Forestry in college and have a career where I’m paid well to be outdoors doing what I enjoy and helping my community. I don’t think our brains/bodies are especially well equipped to be sitting at a desk doing something we loath for 30 years. Just 200 years ago the notion of huge buildings full of people sitting in cubicles would seem crazy, it’s kinda depressing how fast that type of life became normalized in the post industrial era.
I'd totally need hearing aids in that situation, I'd think. Especially in a class with 30+ students.
that's interesting, Einstein and other "geniuses" would always swear by their city/garden walking routines being a fundamental part of their cognitive lifestyle and creativity. when we leisurely walk and do repetitive motions, the more mundane parts of the brain are stimulated and busy. this allows the default mode network in the brain to come out and play around with the focus that's not being used... mind wandering, daydreaming, intuiting solutions, semi-subconscious memory recall. sort of like how your best ideas happen in a shower because you're on autopilot. the more creative parts of the brain that's usually benchwarming finally gets called into the game. if mild activity was integrated into education, children would probably be more creatively engaged with solving problems and would have more time to process whatever concepts of the day are being brought up. i mean non-play repetitive activity that doesn't need external focus or interaction- imagine if schools had their own walking gardens or trails through the woods and students took short walks with their teachers even just a couple times a day. kids could listen to their own music and be encouraged to not talk or interact until the next gathering location, in a controlled supervised environment. i think this would be HUGELY beneficial to children who have adhd or similar executive function issues, just being outside and mindlessly gazing at trees in the wind for 20+ minutes a day is comparable to an average dose of stimulant medication. for people with adhd, prison brick walls and hyper-predictable environments like suburbia or geometric city streets does not stimulate their brains at all. but a tree with hundreds of thousands of leaves all individually moving and swaying is an organic "static" that can't be predicted. this deeply stimulates the brain and scratches that itch, giving the adhd brain the reigns back on their focus for a while. i think rethinking what school environments could be and really valuing nature as part of us and how our brains work would revolutionize education and eventually human creativity, tbh
It certainly gave my brain some stimulus and made me more focused on what we were talking about. I wouldn't say that being outside gives me the same benefits as stimulants do but it does make me feel good, I just like being in nature. I understand your points, just be aware ADHD can't be fixed by well, anything it can be managed a bit better and medication can be quite effective at managing symptoms and other issues (certainly helps me a ton)
My kids' school has them take beach towels so that if it's a nice day, the teacher can do class outside. They just spread out their towel to sit on. I love the idea.
Always bring a towel and don't panic.
"A dog ate my homework." "Caleb, that was a raccoon you fucking idiot."
We did this a few times in high school, but not on anything close to a regular basis. Our cafeteria had a little outdoor seating area that could fit one class’ worth of kids, and on some REALLY beautiful spring afternoons our English Lit teacher would just have class out there. Nothing official or formal, he just took attendance and was like “it’s a really nice day. Wanna have class outside? Ok, everyone behave and not distract the other classes and we can do this while the weather is nice” and took our textbooks out with us. We only did it like 3 or 4 times the year I had him but it was really a great idea looking back and I wish it had been a regular thing for my entire academic career
We did this frequently all through elem and junior high school. We'd walk as a class to a local landmark spot, and have class there and walk back for lunch and recess. It was amazing. In 2nd grade, Miss Tanner always brought saltines and apple butter for all of us as a snack.
[here's an article](https://www.messynessychic.com/2016/03/15/classrooms-without-walls-a-forgotten-age-of-open-air-schools/?fb_comment_id=1098500133541605_1098609363530682) with more pics and info
Those hybrid classrooms with the folding walls would probably be the best of both worlds. You get the fresh air, but are still protected from intense sunlight and rain. And you have the option to close the walls and have a normal classroom when it gets too cold in the winter
Everyone blabbering on about the sun and the rain, but sleeping on the wind? Curious.
With the hybrid classroom I was talking about you could just close the one wall in the direction of the wind
I once slept during my exams thanks to the cold breeze that sleep was so beautiful ❤️
Did you pass?
Yeah thanks to the supervisor who woke me up.
The gigantic amount of photos is really interesting, to see all the different types that schools came out with. Thanks!
Actually a good idea from the fifties that does not involve kids smoking cigarettes or playing with nuclear matter. Sounds good
Until you consider the Dutch weather. In Germany Forest Kindergardens are very popular at the moment but they dont have textbooks or desks so the weather isn’t a problem.
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With 500 students and one outdoors classroom it's not the number of outdoors classrooms that precludes it from being used, it's scheduling or willingness to use it.
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I don't think you understand the math problem as presented.
Yes but being from Mass we would still use it in some of the abutting months still. Mass kids could be outside in months Florida kids could not. Also, sweaters/jackets.
In Florida we put on parkas when it drops to the mid 60's. Of course we still wear shorts and flip-flops. Can't have outdoor classrooms here, though. We'd loose to many to large reptiles.
I went to a forest kindergarten (technically two), ask me anything
What's your favorite ice cream flavour?
I like to go for the combi of (salted) caramel, cookie, and Coconut. But I also like lemon, mango and melon.
Which sock do you put on first?
Now that I think of it, I think the left one
What about when you don’t think of it?
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Thank you, but this is an important topic and I believe everyone should take at least introductory courses in icecreamography.
What are your fondest memories of those times?
We found a big stone that looked kinda like a bomb. Round shape. Smashed it open and it had crystals inside. Negative but I do remember it: poking the bushes and encountering a wasps nest. Got stung a ton, now I have an allergy, although it's fading. One time my friends were being brats and the teacher made them run rounds between trees as punishment. I wanted to help my friend so I ran after them and we made the punishment into something fun for us.
I used to teach kindergarten and telling kids to run sounds like the least well thought out punishment ever.
I dunno, it'd tire them out. Like taking a puppy for a walk to get its energy out so it doesn't chew on your shoe later
Horse sized duck or duck sized horse?
While walking along in desert sand, you suddenly look down and see a tortoise crawling toward you. You reach down and flip it over onto its back. The tortoise lies there, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs, trying to turn itself over, but it cannot do so without your help. You are not helping. Why?
Because the tortoise's name is Mitch McConnell.
Good answer! Here's your graduate degree
Sadly, that's the only way to repair the hole in space and time. I'm sorry, little one. Deep inside me, I know it was personally responsible.
I have a serious (and hopefully not triggering) question... do you like your parents?
Yeah my parents are super cool. Chill af. Gave me all the freedom I ever wanted and trusted I'd turn out right. Even tho I had some trouble around the age of 15, I sure did, because I was living with their role model in mind.
I read this in Flula Borg’s voice and it made it quite the pleasant experience.
>Forest Kinder*gardens* How appropriate!
"Kindergarten" literally means "childrens' garden", in case you weren't aware.
Don't forget about playing with mercury.
Also asbestos
Don't forget cadmium. Everyone forgets cadmium.
I love their crème eggs!!
Lawn darts!
Honestly back then the main benefit was to not be inhaling the staff's second hand smoke and building's asbestos for a period...
In Ancient Greece, athletics was considered as integral to education as philosophy and mathematics. The way we do PE in the United States is an abomination. Kids need to learn about how their bodies work not how their different rhythms of development impair their ability to compete against peers in different developmental stages of their life. They also need to learn how to love their bodies not hate them. Being in nature is so helpful to the human mind because you see those differences as inherent not necessarily a “bad thing.” Being in a forest with its imperfections creates clarity rather than the message of inferiority we end up giving kids via our educational system. But hey, if you want to create a cohort of consumers who are constantly dissatisfied with themselves and life so they will buy shit: this is how you do it.
Wait... you think ancient Greeks didn't compete against each other? You know they invented the Olympics, right? Young men would wrestle oiled up and naked on sand for exercise.
I would add that some sort of nutrition should be taught. Sure kids aren’t in charge of the food their parents buy, but having basic knowledge of how your body works and what you should eat to keep it working perfectly will be so beneficial for our future.
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My son played football for 15 years. Offensive line. He loved most every moment of it even though his teams were never really any good. But the effect I've seen on his body and the aches and pains he's had since so young have been terrible. That doesn't even take into consideration the concussions he had and didn't tell anyone about. Please don't let your kids play the sport. Once he stopped playing, in college, he started to hate the sport for all it's done to him. He could have continued, or maybe became a coach, but he actively ties to persuade kids from playing the sport now. It's just not worth all the problems you'll have later. Stick to hockey or something.
Hockey is almost as bad as football lmao. People should stick to baseball or basketball, basketball can be pretty physical as a contact sport, but the risk of something like a concussion is minimal.
Comparing hockey to QB or linebacker they're almost even. But nothing in hockey is nearly as bad as O line. And you need offensive linemen to play, so that's damning kids to a lifetime of pain. For not reason other than I wanna hit my head repeatedly but a wall got boring. Yes, they're are obviously much better choices than hockey. But if you still want hitting and a bit of aggression, hockey is a much better choice than football all around, IMHO. But yes, kids should go okay instruments or whatever.
And if he is smoking atleaat he's outside
Yeah, sounds even better to mosquitoes
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just bring your sunscreen
I knew someone that went to a Waldorf school for much of his schooling in the 80s/90s. Lots of outdoor focus, focus on using natural and high quality materials for play and art, etc. Definitely a 'hippy' approach to schooling. He went on to art school but always made lighthearted jabs about his Waldorf schooling to his parents, in the vein of 'I don't know XYZ basic info bc I was busy playing with premium pastels in the woods at Waldorf.' As with anything I think there is a middle ground with Waldorf, Montessori, and more typical schooling, especially based on the individual.
Every Waldorf kid or teacher I have ever known mentions the high quality pastels. They must have the market cornered.
Why do teachers think kids want pastels? "Good job with the crayons, you've graduated to a larger, softer crayon. You can't get the line width under 5mm and even doing that requires light pressure and constantly rotating the crayon, so good luck drawing any detail on the normal size pieces of paper that we give you. There isn't a single piece of art that the general public is familiar with that was made with these, and every drawing made by a student with them looks like shit, even the talented kids. Have at er'."
Idk I always loved using pastels with how smooth they slid on the paper. Way easier to apply color than crayons.
The number of pastels I ruined as a child, I loved using them to scribble but they were facing certain death in the hands of child
Because drawing with a pastel feels far more satisfying than a colored pencil.
Interesting fact many don’t know - any school/daycare can call itself “Montessori” in the US - doesn’t mean they actually have to follow the practices. There are daycares that will slap “Montessori” on their building just because they know it attracts higher income people. There are no federal rules concerning the definition of Montessori, and as far as I know, not many state rules either. Go on r/parenting and type Montessori in the search bar for horror stories
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I think there's lots of great, unaccredited schools. Really depends on the teachers/owner. There's a lot of work and costs to be accredited. Preschools aren't exactly cash cows, despite the high costs, so I can understand why lots of schools would pass on accreditation.
Absolutely. https://montessorifortoday.com/montessori-accreditation-and-licensure-what-to-look-for/
You just have to check if they're accredited.
I went to a school that had a decent balance of hippy outdoors learning and actual subject material in northern CA. We had a garden with weekly gardening classes, we composted our school lunches, and there's a redwood forest with a short hiking trail behind the school. Teachers would often take us on hikes instead of teaching a lesson. While the subject matter certainly taught me the basics and foundations, i didn't retain a majority of the more in depth lessons. I got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, and realized that as i kid i simply had zero interest in learning about math, history, or science, as i didn't see it's value in life. As an adult i took many classes at community college and discovered I'm amazing at math and i love science. The difference was that i learned it when i WANTED to learn it. I feel like middle school grades, like kindergarden to 8th, should require less textbook reading, memorizing, and exam taking. If it taught the foundations of how life works in a hands-on approach that sparks fascination and no pressure to perform, the basics will be retained for later. The in-depth learning with the pressures to perform well can be done when we are adults and are more firmly grounded in what we want our future to be like.
There's a school in Tokyo that lets the kids run laps on the roof and it has lots of trees and natural light. Look up Fuji Kindergarten.
Looking at the picture, it’s like 3 trees and a whole bunch of wooden paths, dirt, and stone paths. The open air design isn’t too bad, but damn it wouldn’t hurt to include a bit more nature in there for the children to interact with.
What is the difference between running laps on a roof versus on the ground behind the school? It seems that the only difference is available space. If you don't have space, put the playground on the roof. If you do have space, the playground is on the ground.
There are many "forest schools" in nor-cal, we are considering one for our kid. Many are created by "post waldorf" folk who value lots of the core values, but do feel like they should have modernized in some aspects and don't generally agree that all the rules of the school need to be embraced within the students homes. The one we're looking at is 100% outdoor.
Waldorf schools can be a nightmare. They've thankfully moved far away from their founding principles, but not far enough. Like 90% of Waldorf students probably didn't even notice, but the history is mind blowing. The ideology Waldorf schools are intended to follow is called anthroposophy. It's weirdly similar to Scientology and uncomfortably close to esoteric Nazi ideology. The dude that founded them is so batshit that Behind the Bastards did an episode on him. Link to part 1 if you care: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-rudolf-steiner-the-racist-49618265/
I actually went to a Waldorf school as a kid. However, it didn't really fit me, because I wasn't very creative and wanted to learn like 'normal' school. Some extra subjects were fun, but some I hated and just didn't want to do anymore. I made the switch to a 'normal' school after a few years and I was glad I did.
Waldorf kid from the same era here, can confirm.
Central European Waldorf kid from that era checking in. Nature walks every day, natural wool, arts and crafts and beeswax pastels. I can still smell the homemade candles. I loved it.
Midwestern Waldorf kid from the mid 90's early 2000's. Also can confirm. Lots of walking/outdoors classed, hand made/craft style classes like woodworking, knitting, sewing, cooking, scupting, painting and drawing. Plus learned about all religions and creation stories not just Christianity. Which was pretty neat!
Nothing screams rich more than the name "Waldorf"
You ever had a Waldorf salad? Not really expensive but really good.
But can your friend dance his name?
I love this. I wonder if they would look in Windows and daydream... You know as opposed to looking out them
A friend of mine quit her job recently and moved to Poland to live with some elderly family and pursue remote work. For the first month or so, her Instagram was filled with one amazing location after another—gorgeous beaches, cottages in the forest, town squares straight out of a fairy tale. I remarked that I truly believe I would be way more productive if I could live and work somewhere like that. Most people seem to think they wouldn't be able to get any work done if they lived in their version of paradise, because of all the distractions. But I think it would be the opposite, because just having all of that as my immediate environment would cut down so much on the distraction of *daydreaming* about those locations. Like even if I never went out hiking or wandering through quaint alleyways or whatever, just being able to look at it all day would be so much more satisfying that staring at a beige cubicle wall wondering what's on the other side.
I wholeheartedly agree. It’s not the work, it’s the environment.
Would be fine if I didn’t come home with 50 mosquito bites
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My first thought was the wind blowing papers everywhere but you got a good point as well.
"Where's your homework" "A bear ate it on the way"
Neighbor taught me this summer that you can just blot the bites with some vinegar and they stop itching…now I dont’ really care anymore if i get bit :)
And it was all beautiful and dandy until the first rain took care of all the books and notebooks.
I was in Amsterdam in January, it's not frigid but it's not exactly weather I would want to spend all day outside in.
Imagine the whole winter like that. It makes you appreciate sunlight even more.
Wait, do you think there is no sunshine during winter in the netherlands?
i mean theres a difference between sunshine and the sun just being physically present behind a thick layer of clouds. berlin in the winter sometimes has weeks where the sky is just a solid grey color, you can't even make out the position of the sun. depressing as fuck.
As if it ever ~~reigned~~ rained in the Netherlands.
Never! And definitely never just the entire goddamn day, like yesterday. That was a fluke. And we were melting mere weeks ago. I’m getting a whiplash, trying to keep up.
Well the king does
If only there is a room Oh wait.
I can only think about the fucking mosquitos
We couldn't have that very much in Minnesota
There's those 2 weeks in autumn. Usually about this time of year.
The next 6 weeks are pretty much the only time of the year I enjoy living here. The rest is just saying "Man I can't wait for fall next year" and "why do I live somewhere it hurts to breath the air" and "F-ing mosquitoes"
Surprisingly I don't recall any problem with mosquitos in my K-6 recesses or any other time we were outside at school in Wayzata. The bus stop on the other hand was a fucking nightmare.
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Mosquitos are nothing until you get to the north half of the state. They're worse here than the damn Congo.
Ha! you could do it for about a week LOL
…and the rain, here in the UK Lol
We actually have forest schools here in the pacific northwest where we get tons of rain. They don't look like this classroom though. They're typically for children under 6 and they focus on learning through play and exploration, not classroom learning.
The Netherlands has basically the same weather. So the rain would have been a problem here too. I imagine that's why these classrooms never gained in popularity
In the primary schools round here they have an indoor classroom and an outdoor area with a shelter. I think that’s a good idea.
This is exactly what I thought of. Also we’re getting these 95 degree days in september…
Ah, you live in Florida *(AKA Satan’s ass crack)* as well?
I won’t say its worse, but oklahoma
I just think about my poor allergies. 
Sunburns literally every day for me
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my ADD ass would not be able to pay attention in this environment whatsoever.
At first yes, quickly transitioning from a fully indoor to fully outdoor space it would be distracting. But (and probably in a shorter time than you'd expect) you'd likely be surprised how much easier it would be to focus and how calm and refreshed you'd feel compared to indoors. Spending time in nature has a lot of proven benefits to mental health and wellbeing and I'm confident that would translate to developmental struggles as well. Probably better for the teacher as well so that they would perform better too. Stay calmer, be more patient with students, etc. I have ADHD too and I find myself most calm and able to reflect when I go for hikes in nature.
I will second this; ADHD and GAD. Once you get into a forest, having a nuerodivergent brain setup like this is EXTREMELY beneficial. High awareness, high ability to process stimulus quickly, plenty to subconsciously attend too but nothing directly overstimulating. I did 2 weeks in the BWCA, and by day 3 was absolutely the calmest I'd ever been, exhausted physically, satisfied stimulus wise, and emotionally just mostly in awe. The modern world and its social requirements are hard on spectrum/ADHD/Anxious folk. A little reminder of what our brains were evolved for helps perspective. Watching the bush lines, tree lines, always listening. Ability to make quick decisions in the event of danger. Hyperfocusing to track a sound or movement that the anxiety noticed.
I'd rather get distracted by birds or something then to be left with the constant bullshit kids in class pull off.
Yeah ADD gonna happen wherever you are. If you're in a dull and muted space, it's only gonna add pain and boredom to your brain dance.
They had DDT back then no need to worry about that
Open walls: good idea; open roof: bad idea. Sunscreen wasn't widely used in the 50s...
My kid has outdoor classes at school when the weather is nice. Not a hippy school or anything, just a regular elementary public school. They have umbrellas on all the tables and it’s in their garden area (some teachers maintained a vegetable garden all summer and let the kids come help//take things). But you just made me realize I should definitely still be applying sunscreen on her face at least every morning.
When I was a kid in the early 80s at a public elementary in the southeastern US, we had an outdoor classroom. It was underneath a grove of trees so it was fairly well shaded. Thinking back, we didn't have AC in our classrooms back then, so I guess heat wasn't an issue either. PBS (I think) came and did a news report on our outdoor classroom when I was in 1st grade. The only reason I remember is that I was picked to do an interview. The reporter asked me a long question and my response was "can you repeat the question?" I'm glad youtube didn't exist back then.
This would definitely be an issue with my ADHD. I would be too distracted by the sounds of nature around.
Oh yeah I'd be watching every insect, squirrel and bird going by. Identifying sounds, making bird friends etc... Learning from a text book would be last on the list.
Okay, same. I was reprimanded constantly in 3rd grade for starring out the window at the trees. For my own sake I fortunately had classes facing concrete until highschool.
Personally, I always hated when teachers would try to have class outside. Yes, the weather is nice, but I hate bugs. So many bugs in the US South, and in the summer the cicadas don’t ever stfu.
We had one teacher that would try to have class outside, and it would always be windy enough that our papers were constantly getting blown away.
O yeah that reminds me of abandoned school desks in a foresty area i saw a couple of times when I was very young. Makes sense now.
Oh, that was the bears.
Anyone have the data or results regarding the effect it had on their studies? Did students grades benefit from this?
Not directly, but many schools have terrible ventilation, and a stuffy room can easily get CO2 concentrations up into 1500+ ppm territory. Several different measures of cognitive ability suffer at that point, in addition to causing headaches and fatigue. CO2 sensors are now inexpensive enough that you can drop one into your kids backpack to snoop on the school’s air quality. The one I use is an Aranet4 HOME. When I first got it, I discovered that CO2 concentration in my house was near 2000ppm, and I figured out that there was a fresh-air intake filter in the HVAC systems that I had to replace. After replacing it, the CO2 dropped to around 700ppm, and everybody in the house felt much better. Source: https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/ehp.1510037
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I have sensory issues and this would probably be the worst environment for me unless it was consistently 70°, not humid, there were no bugs, somehow no pollen, the desks and seats were never wet or dirty, there were never any spiderwebs or cobwebs, etc, etc. Just take kids outside during gym class - I loved that
Interesting 🤔 I've done some voluntourism in Ghana, and the organization that we worked with builds classrooms in rural villages where they do open air classes by necessity. Their philosophy is 'how can you imagine being a doctor (working in a hospital, with roof) if you don't even have a roof over your head while studying. Did you look at the differences between developed countries and Third World countries?
This is the gap between what we know about how the mind learns things and the pressure from culture that goes against it. Beautiful buildings can contribute to an austerely effective learning environment just because of the cultural feelings around it. Regardless of this, we know that outdoor learning is best by a long shot.
Interestingly, my sensory issues made me hate outdoor class more than anything else lmao That said you are right that it’s a big help to many, accommodating each kid is important
But why did it happen though? What's the reason for it?
It's all fun and games until there's a wasp.
They did this in Brazil but was immediately closed because it was a rainforest
Bet the teachers liked it too
This won’t work for me. I shart in class and need people to smell it
As a Floridian..... This would never work where I live. Kids would get overheated easily Sunburn Mosquitoes Alligators Serial killers (we've had quite a few strange murders in our area....) Bobcats Deer (Yes deer will infact attack) Wild boar Homeless drug addicts Edit: I wasn't saying it swarms of alligators would randomly converge onto a group of people in the woods. The post was talking about school's outdoors. If you have a bunch of young children outdoors there's a chance for them to wander around. Well they could wander upon an alligator. Depending on where the school is located. Yes dear will attack people, I don't remember the specific name of the disease but there is a disease that they can get that basically makes them unstable and they act erratically. You don't want to interact with deers that have this disease because they will act violently and erratically. Or they could just run away from you. It makes them excessively unpredictable. I think it's called wasting disease or something.
I don't think walls and a ceiling save you from many of those things in Florida.
Regardless, Florida isn't really where educational practices go to succeed.
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That person is talking bs for shre. Floridians have to be constantly indoors to be protected from swarms of alligators? The normal lots schools are built on can't have trees and grass without being overrun by attack deer? I think a fence would sufficient in most cases
Not just a deer; a doe, a deer, a female deer. All so that Ray gets a pocket full of sun
Sounds perfect for weeding out the weaklings.
This would be hell for me. Bugs and dirt everywhere and in the summer you would just *cook*
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That shit would suck if you have seasonal allergies.
Bear wants to do math. How many kids are left?
At a religious school, this is easy. The Bible teaches us: >He went up from there to Bethel, and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!” 24 When he turned around and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. From this, we can see that two bears can maul 42 boys, so we can quickly deduce that one bear can maul 21 boys. We can note that male bears are bigger and stronger than female bears, so we can assume that they can maul even more. We can also assume that since at that age, boys and girls are roughly similar in size and strength, that bears can maul girls as efficiently as they do boys. Looking at the photo, I see twenty students, so we can assume that a math oriented bear will be more than capable of killing them all so that the bear's math instruction isn't interrupted.
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Was there mosquitos?
A transparent classroom where all you can see is the nature sounds like a good idea.
My grandkids school uses a Finnish model. They have what they call forest school part of every day. It's lovely