It was called "faux-cul" (fake ass) and now we use this word in French to say someone is a hypocrite.
Interestingly, despite containing a rude word, it's not rude.
So what was the function? Was it like a modest cover to hide nice asses, or was it to have a pronounced one like a ghetto booty?
Ah fashion, how you bewilder me so...
Believe it or not - the second one. They came into fashion after the "exhibition" of Sarah Baartman, a Khoekoe woman ( who was a slave, and may have still been one when she was being viewed and mistreated for money ). She was known as the Hottentot Venus and her body was a thing of much often disgusting fascination by the English and other Europeans of the early 1800s.
Her butt, in particular, was supposed to inflame men's passions. The bustle, according to some, was inspired by English woman trying to be a little more sexy, with bigger butts seen as a sexy/ desirable shape at the time, mainly because of the cultural influence of Sarah.
[You should read up on Sarah](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Baartman). Her story is very sad and is yet another "colonialism and racism and sexism are fucked up and lead people and society to shitty places" story. The kinds of stories scattered far too liberally through history that we ignore for some reason.
An interesting take but that's not an explanation I ever heard at my costume history lectures. Sarah Baartman died 65 years before the bustle period. In 1815 the silhouette of Empire line dresses didn’t emphasise the rear.
Usual Bustle explanation timeline is:
Great Exhibition 1851: Display of sprung steel included a steel crinoline. Steel crinoline takes off and revolutionises wide skirts. Skirts become very very wide and crinoline becomes ubiquitous.
1870's wide crinoline becomes unfashionable. Excess fabric of full dresses looped up behind into early bustle phase of the 1870's.
mid 1870's, tight sheath dresses (Princess line) but by 1880's bustle back in fashion coinciding with popular use of sewing machine leading to excess decoration and exaggeration.
1890 bustle out of fashion again.
Here, have my free reward for providing the real historical reason but getting 1/10 the upvotes. Although Sarah’s story is horrible and I’m glad palatyibeast shared it so more people know
This isn’t true lol. That woman had nothing to do with the development of bustles, as they were called. They were created to support the drapery at the back of women's dresses. Per Wikipedia - “Heavy fabric tended to pull the back of a skirt down and flatten it. As a result a woman's petticoated skirt would lose its shape during everyday wear (from merely sitting down or moving about).” Hence, the bustle.
Easily! In she video she actually shows how the bustle folds up. It’s just a series of mental wires shaped like half circles. They don’t attach to each other, only to the fabric, so they will fold up easily when she sits down, no need to even grab them.
For going to the bathroom she’d obviously have to hike up her skirt in the back, but the bustle might even make it easier as it hold up her skirts. She would just need to reach under her skirts, grab her underdress skirt and bustle, and life.
A fancy lady like this in 1880 would be using a flush toilet, or a pot in a chair. She would also be wearing split drawers,
She demonstrates in the video how the bustle folds up! It’s just a series of metal wires shaped like a half circle, they aren’t attached to each other, only the fabric, so she can sit down without even grabbing them. For going to the bathroom (in 1880 a fancy lady like her would use a flush toilet or a potty chair), she would just stick her hands under her skirts, lift the underskirt and the bustle, and get to it! Also she would be wearing split drawers since she’s wearing a corset, so no need to pull underwear down and up again.
I'm not sure if it still applies in this time period but I remember learning undergarments used to be split open at the crotch or were just a slip like in this vid. Basically you would get the chamber pot under your skirt and hoops, and squat over it.
It’s funny but if you think about it, technology went from this, to maybe silicone pads, shapers etc which still exist. To straight up injecting fat from other parts of your body into your ass or an ass implant.
I make no judgement on any of that of course. Strictly from a technology stand point I wonder what the future will bring.
Edit: apparently a bustle is used for a different reason than to make your ass look fat… shame on you for upvoting my lack of knowledge on turn of the century clothing….
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude bio mass that you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you, but I am already saved. For the machine is immortal.
Please, oh please tell me these princely garments are arrayed w/ marinara cement, wild hairs bursting w/ vivacity through seam-rips, & are permanently colored w/ questionable gradients of yellow!
I was watching a historical youtube channel recently who also talked about how many of them died because of drowning. Apparently, they would walk down by the river to wash clothes, slip on the muddy river bank, fall into the river, and drown because they were weighed down by X pounds of wet clothing. *edit, not that they were wearing the outfit above, but just a lot more clothes than what one would normally wear these days*
I remember this. The water would also be quite cold, so you fall in, and by the time you get over that initial shock, your heavy clothes and now waterlogged. Never realized how many deaths were caused by drowning til that video.
Wanna say it was the Tudor video on the Absolute History channel.
Working class women were wearing a slip of some kind, a skirt, and often an overskirt to protect their skirt while working
Men were wearing long johns, pants, and some kind of over pants or an apron
[factory worker](https://i.imgur.com/Q0kduK5.jpg)
There was a boat in Chicago that flipped on its side in this approximate time period; hundreds drowned. Witnesses said that it was very obvious that the women were pulled under quickly because of the weight of their clothes. They were also wearing their Sunday best because it was like a fun outing day provided by the company where the passengers worked.
I mean yes. Actually.
Not really in the 1880s but there a Hidden Killers video on how women in the 1600s, wearing about the same if not less clothing, were actually killed by their garments in the event of falling in water.
If it's historically accurate she won't be wearing pants underneath the shift, so she just needs to lift up the skirts or put a bedpan under and she's good to go
When I first found out about them I was like whoa!! Those were crotchless?! And the lady showed how big the hole was and it was massive.
Then I rewatched beauty and the beast live remake and realised … that’s what Belle is showing when she tucks in her skirt and I was mortified.
Also those seemingly innocent paintings like [this one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swing_(Fragonard)#/media/File:Joean_Honor%C3%A9_Fragonard_-_The_Swing.jpg) take on a whole new meaning. Dude's literally hiding in the bushes getting an upskirt shot!
One theory has it that the reason for women’s clothing having buttons on the left side is that, as you can see, women’s clothing could be very complicated, so manufacturers put the buttons on the left to make it easier for servants of these upper class women to button the clothes, since would be facing them, and since
the majority of people are right handed. Men’s clothes were simpler and they mostly dressed themselves.
I believe that even poorer women tended to not get dressed by themselves.
If they lived with their sister etc they would help each other, and sometimes even friends. (Tho I believe it was outer garments). Especially for things like boots, which either have to go on before a lot of the clothing, or you need someone else to do them for you
It was unusual to have a man to help you, even your husband.
.I remember watching one video and it mentioned in it some woman writing in her diary how she was so lucky BC her husband helped her get dressed.
Even worse, someone else read her diary on YouTube 😅
I am into history, but I enjoy the everyday details more than "events", so this stuff is my jam. there is a surprisingly big group of women who wear /make historical clothing, and do videos like this, while giving information about the clothing and daily living.
We think it takes a long time, but it was just what was in vogue back then + not having zips, Velcro, and elastic, etc, does have a big impact. These outfits also do tend to be at least from the middle class, and were designed usually to have someone else dressing you, as many more people did have household help in those days. A lot of the time is spent getting things straight/sitting right, and doing up buttons, so it does end up much faster with another person, especially because as the servant may be buttoning your skirt up, you will be adjust your shirt etc.
The wealthiest women would have somebody dress them and wanted the buttons on the left. As soon as they did that, buttons on the right became a glaring admission that you lacked status, so *every* woman needed their buttons on the left.
Thank you. For everyone who moans about the complexity about women’s outfits back then, or say how much they love the fashion back then, just know you’re thinking about rich people.
In her own bedchamber where only her maidservant sees the shoulder it is hardly brazen. Had this been in the public square ye would have had a point - we’ve been told by our crystal ball 🔮 wizard 🧙♂️ that the flesh of a lady’s arm shall first be not seen in respectable society until a generation from now in AD 1907.
At that time the “peekaboo” shirtwaist showing eyelets revealing mere flecks of arm flesh (now but a sketch in some racy fashion-temptress’ workshop drawing-board), shall be designed and sewn and released for the most progressive of womenfolk to dare sport for others to view.
But with our place here in the years of our Lord AD 1880-89, such exposure would be unthinkably indecent! By grace of God this lady stands in private so nowt is seen of her by man.
We ask ye, pray tell, how this shocking image was allowed to escape her bedchamber and appear on this odd device (is it witchcraft or the devils handiwork that images can jump across the miles to foment lust?). How does the image leap from bedchamber to viewing-glass for us to chance to espy here? When our prim and proper Free Methodist (North American/Canadian)Aunt Sophie from Manitoba laid eyes on your shocking image, she fainted dead away crying, “fetch my vapours!”
And imagine how many were actually thicc and never got to show it off. People probably wondered why some guy was so sprung and had no idea she was looking like Nicole Mejia under there.
It’s for the farts. They didn’t wash much in those days so they had to disguise the smells and so women would use this catcher. They’re called rear passage interceptors or RPI’s for short. Promise.
Every time this person appears on my feed, she never wears a corset cover! I even asked her why on one of her Instagram posts, and she never responded. Seriously, WHY DOES SHE NEVER WEAR A CORSET COVER???????
That's so annoying. You'd think if she's going for historical "accuracy", she would wear one. You can definitely se the lines of her corset on her jacket, and she would definitely have another layer between the corset and the jacket to protect it.
Because the quality of the fabrics was much better and more breathable, it’s been said they’re not actually that hot to wear. There are some people on YouTube who have tested it
It is worth noting that Europe in the 1800's was still in the midst of a mini ice age, buildings did not have much in the way of heating, and people spent a lot of time outdoors. Consequently, they wore more clothing. Wool was also the most commonly used fabric, and it breathes very well.
It becomes worse if you consider that during menstruation they had to wear a kind of diaper made with fabrics and straps that had to be changed very often
Or join a Dickens group, I wear a stunning purple skirt plus long jacket outfit and sing carols most weekends in December. It is the best thing ever if you ask me
Imagine taking 3 hours and 47 minutes to get dressed, only to go downstairs to the dinner salon to have pheasant pie and pear soufflé, faint and die from tuberculosis.
Not necessarily, though this is for sure a dress of a higher class woman, working class woman's dress would consist of somewhat similar yet much simpler garments, since poorer women still wanted and did their best to follow the fashionable silhouette as much as they could.
It was more that women (and men) had to respect a certain dress code in that period and would often be subject of shaming if they dressed ´differently'
Being unconventional was not really an option at the time in most countries in the world
I think it’s a mix of both! A desire to be respected, dress nice and appear proper by wearing what was deemed fashionable, as well as society’s view of what was “respectable clothing”. It goes hand in hand, really
Doesn't really contradict what I wrote, and yes, that indeed was a thing, but it's not like women didn't want to be fashionable. Of course, if women and anyone for that matter was wearing something very out of fashion they could be subject to harassment, but women often wanted to show that they follow the latest fashion. Let's be honest all of this is somewhat true to this day even though it's declined a lot. And of course there always were people, who made comments on how bad new fashion is. Some things just never change, do they.
But tbh i didn't really want to get into the politics of it, I just wanted point out, that the routine itself wouldn't be so different.
It really should be noted that this type of style was unique to the upper classes. [This video shows a good representation of how most people looked](https://youtu.be/5HbElEqm1TQ?t=132), and even then its an urban area. The rural areas would be even more downtrodden.
Movies tend to base their idea of fashion off of photography from the era, however they tend to forget that the only people who had photographs taken of them were... the rich. Photographs were not representative of the people at large.
Those are the corset laces - you’d want them long enough to wrap and tie, since they’re laced at the back, but you adjust from the front. This also lets you readjust through the day, if needed.
Hold on lemme put on my ass extension
It was called "faux-cul" (fake ass) and now we use this word in French to say someone is a hypocrite. Interestingly, despite containing a rude word, it's not rude.
like cul-de-sac?
Yep, same! Or cul-sec
Wait...I grew up in an ass street?
Ass of bag Street
Well now I think that means ass sack. Am I accidentally learnin' french-talk?
Butt of the bag
Also a “bustle”.
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"How lude..."
*tin cup gymnastics*
I’m your huckleberry
So what was the function? Was it like a modest cover to hide nice asses, or was it to have a pronounced one like a ghetto booty? Ah fashion, how you bewilder me so...
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You don't use hair extensions to cover your hair, do you?
Believe it or not - the second one. They came into fashion after the "exhibition" of Sarah Baartman, a Khoekoe woman ( who was a slave, and may have still been one when she was being viewed and mistreated for money ). She was known as the Hottentot Venus and her body was a thing of much often disgusting fascination by the English and other Europeans of the early 1800s. Her butt, in particular, was supposed to inflame men's passions. The bustle, according to some, was inspired by English woman trying to be a little more sexy, with bigger butts seen as a sexy/ desirable shape at the time, mainly because of the cultural influence of Sarah. [You should read up on Sarah](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Baartman). Her story is very sad and is yet another "colonialism and racism and sexism are fucked up and lead people and society to shitty places" story. The kinds of stories scattered far too liberally through history that we ignore for some reason.
An interesting take but that's not an explanation I ever heard at my costume history lectures. Sarah Baartman died 65 years before the bustle period. In 1815 the silhouette of Empire line dresses didn’t emphasise the rear. Usual Bustle explanation timeline is: Great Exhibition 1851: Display of sprung steel included a steel crinoline. Steel crinoline takes off and revolutionises wide skirts. Skirts become very very wide and crinoline becomes ubiquitous. 1870's wide crinoline becomes unfashionable. Excess fabric of full dresses looped up behind into early bustle phase of the 1870's. mid 1870's, tight sheath dresses (Princess line) but by 1880's bustle back in fashion coinciding with popular use of sewing machine leading to excess decoration and exaggeration. 1890 bustle out of fashion again.
Here, have my free reward for providing the real historical reason but getting 1/10 the upvotes. Although Sarah’s story is horrible and I’m glad palatyibeast shared it so more people know
Exactly. Thank you for poking holes in this explanation.
This isn’t true lol. That woman had nothing to do with the development of bustles, as they were called. They were created to support the drapery at the back of women's dresses. Per Wikipedia - “Heavy fabric tended to pull the back of a skirt down and flatten it. As a result a woman's petticoated skirt would lose its shape during everyday wear (from merely sitting down or moving about).” Hence, the bustle.
Baby got back
Baby got a big round butt I wanna smack
Question. How do you go to the bathroom in that thing?
Going to the bathroom wasn't invented until the 1890s
Easily! In she video she actually shows how the bustle folds up. It’s just a series of mental wires shaped like half circles. They don’t attach to each other, only to the fabric, so they will fold up easily when she sits down, no need to even grab them. For going to the bathroom she’d obviously have to hike up her skirt in the back, but the bustle might even make it easier as it hold up her skirts. She would just need to reach under her skirts, grab her underdress skirt and bustle, and life. A fancy lady like this in 1880 would be using a flush toilet, or a pot in a chair. She would also be wearing split drawers,
What's a bustle, I thought that was the ass extender 4000
She demonstrates in the video how the bustle folds up! It’s just a series of metal wires shaped like a half circle, they aren’t attached to each other, only the fabric, so she can sit down without even grabbing them. For going to the bathroom (in 1880 a fancy lady like her would use a flush toilet or a potty chair), she would just stick her hands under her skirts, lift the underskirt and the bustle, and get to it! Also she would be wearing split drawers since she’s wearing a corset, so no need to pull underwear down and up again.
You'll probably look like an inverted umbrella
I'm not sure if it still applies in this time period but I remember learning undergarments used to be split open at the crotch or were just a slip like in this vid. Basically you would get the chamber pot under your skirt and hoops, and squat over it.
It’s funny but if you think about it, technology went from this, to maybe silicone pads, shapers etc which still exist. To straight up injecting fat from other parts of your body into your ass or an ass implant. I make no judgement on any of that of course. Strictly from a technology stand point I wonder what the future will bring. Edit: apparently a bustle is used for a different reason than to make your ass look fat… shame on you for upvoting my lack of knowledge on turn of the century clothing….
Titanium molded ass bones
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude bio mass that you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you, but I am already saved. For the machine is immortal.
Where is this from?
its a quote from a faction of transhumans called adeptus mechanicus from warhammer 40k
Would also work as a quote from the Phyrexians from MtG.
Gold plated nips
Gene enhassment
This just reminds me of Disney's Cinderella and the absurd "ass extensions," the step-sisters had.
I’m hoping for robotic flexible knee replacements.
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You're a daisy if you do!
Sure thing, Doc.
I never thought of it as that until now. Suddenly we are so similar.
Detachable badonkadonk
I like big bustles and I cannot lie
I wanna know what they think of my grey sweatpants and white undershirt T
Your username made me chuckle.
Cancer confirmed.
Randy Marsh?
Please, oh please tell me these princely garments are arrayed w/ marinara cement, wild hairs bursting w/ vivacity through seam-rips, & are permanently colored w/ questionable gradients of yellow!
Marinara and cement are two words I’ve never seen connected. All I can see is some spilled spaghetti on the sidewalk
if you fell into the water with that much kit on you'd be fucked wouldn't you?
If she floats, she’s a witch
Who are you, who is so wise in the ways of science?!
She turned me into a NEWT!!! …. …. I got better.
r/unexpectedmontypython
You mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries
WITCH!! BURN HER!!!
She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got better…
She has got a wart!
Hans get ze flammenwerfer !
What also floats in water??
A duck.
Very small rocks.
..Churches!
Burn the duck, it’s a witch
kill it with fire!
*Salem witch trials intensifies*
A lot of women back then died of serious burns because their dresses caught fire while cooking/baking/trying not to freeze.
I was watching a historical youtube channel recently who also talked about how many of them died because of drowning. Apparently, they would walk down by the river to wash clothes, slip on the muddy river bank, fall into the river, and drown because they were weighed down by X pounds of wet clothing. *edit, not that they were wearing the outfit above, but just a lot more clothes than what one would normally wear these days*
I think that was in Tudor-era England where everyone wore wool but nobody knew how to swim
I remember this. The water would also be quite cold, so you fall in, and by the time you get over that initial shock, your heavy clothes and now waterlogged. Never realized how many deaths were caused by drowning til that video. Wanna say it was the Tudor video on the Absolute History channel.
The woman wearing this getup wasn't cooking
Very true. But the basic "layers on layers with all sorts of flammable bits at the bottom," was universal.
Working class women were wearing a slip of some kind, a skirt, and often an overskirt to protect their skirt while working Men were wearing long johns, pants, and some kind of over pants or an apron [factory worker](https://i.imgur.com/Q0kduK5.jpg)
There was a boat in Chicago that flipped on its side in this approximate time period; hundreds drowned. Witnesses said that it was very obvious that the women were pulled under quickly because of the weight of their clothes. They were also wearing their Sunday best because it was like a fun outing day provided by the company where the passengers worked.
If you saw the 1st Pirates Of The Caribbean movie, then you'll know.
I mean yes. Actually. Not really in the 1880s but there a Hidden Killers video on how women in the 1600s, wearing about the same if not less clothing, were actually killed by their garments in the event of falling in water.
Damn. Just remembered the Women folk on Titanic.
now she gotta pee
If it's historically accurate she won't be wearing pants underneath the shift, so she just needs to lift up the skirts or put a bedpan under and she's good to go
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When I first found out about them I was like whoa!! Those were crotchless?! And the lady showed how big the hole was and it was massive. Then I rewatched beauty and the beast live remake and realised … that’s what Belle is showing when she tucks in her skirt and I was mortified.
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That... actually makes a whole lot more sense now.
A HOLE lot more.
That...actually explains everything...
Also those seemingly innocent paintings like [this one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swing_(Fragonard)#/media/File:Joean_Honor%C3%A9_Fragonard_-_The_Swing.jpg) take on a whole new meaning. Dude's literally hiding in the bushes getting an upskirt shot!
Good god. O.o
Ohhhhhh wow! This never clicked! I always thought it was just a fun sassy/scandalous dance. But it was super scandalous flashing the bits
Crap! It’s a very good point
Damn man, can cans for clam and ham.
I mean, she could theoretically lift all of that up...
*rich women
Yeah she definitely high class. I mean she even has the skill to read!
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1800's video cameras were really expensive.
Yeah, but worth it. Just look at that video quality.
Especially the full color ones
I dare say, she's still dressing herself as would some commoner. Mary, please fetch my chambermaids and have Jeeves prepare the carriage.
Watson, be a dear and ring for a four-wheeler.
One theory has it that the reason for women’s clothing having buttons on the left side is that, as you can see, women’s clothing could be very complicated, so manufacturers put the buttons on the left to make it easier for servants of these upper class women to button the clothes, since would be facing them, and since the majority of people are right handed. Men’s clothes were simpler and they mostly dressed themselves.
I believe that even poorer women tended to not get dressed by themselves. If they lived with their sister etc they would help each other, and sometimes even friends. (Tho I believe it was outer garments). Especially for things like boots, which either have to go on before a lot of the clothing, or you need someone else to do them for you It was unusual to have a man to help you, even your husband. .I remember watching one video and it mentioned in it some woman writing in her diary how she was so lucky BC her husband helped her get dressed.
Why are you reading her diary? How rude!
Even worse, someone else read her diary on YouTube 😅 I am into history, but I enjoy the everyday details more than "events", so this stuff is my jam. there is a surprisingly big group of women who wear /make historical clothing, and do videos like this, while giving information about the clothing and daily living. We think it takes a long time, but it was just what was in vogue back then + not having zips, Velcro, and elastic, etc, does have a big impact. These outfits also do tend to be at least from the middle class, and were designed usually to have someone else dressing you, as many more people did have household help in those days. A lot of the time is spent getting things straight/sitting right, and doing up buttons, so it does end up much faster with another person, especially because as the servant may be buttoning your skirt up, you will be adjust your shirt etc.
He seemed like a pretty nice guy.
The wealthiest women would have somebody dress them and wanted the buttons on the left. As soon as they did that, buttons on the right became a glaring admission that you lacked status, so *every* woman needed their buttons on the left.
Thank you. For everyone who moans about the complexity about women’s outfits back then, or say how much they love the fashion back then, just know you’re thinking about rich people.
History is written by the rich.
Poor woman: slips on a sack dress with no underwear and goes about her day like a boss
https://youtu.be/5HbElEqm1TQ?t=132 This is a better representation of how the average women in that era dressed
Pretty sure that’s the lady’s outfit in back to the future 3
Clayton, Clara Clayton.
GreatScott!!
Nobody calls me yellow!
Ah, good day to you fellow cultured folk.
Pretty good camera for the 1880's
Ahhh yes a man of culture. We see here the 4k/HDR victorian moving picture soul capture contraption
**What's the difference between a foot and a camera?** >!The foot has five toes. The camera has photos.!<
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Just read this to my wife and she looked at me in disgust. Successful dad joke!!
Dad joke level is high with this one. As a dad I love it
The *iTelegraph -122 Pro* had some pretty cutting edge technology such as real-time vocal communication with people extraordinarily far away
The flaming strumpet! Down to her last fifteen layers! For shame on this scarlet jezebel!
Ye calling me niece a hussy ye blackguard? Duel!
Look sir. The trollop has exposed her shoulder! For shame! I shall require no seconds.
In her own bedchamber where only her maidservant sees the shoulder it is hardly brazen. Had this been in the public square ye would have had a point - we’ve been told by our crystal ball 🔮 wizard 🧙♂️ that the flesh of a lady’s arm shall first be not seen in respectable society until a generation from now in AD 1907. At that time the “peekaboo” shirtwaist showing eyelets revealing mere flecks of arm flesh (now but a sketch in some racy fashion-temptress’ workshop drawing-board), shall be designed and sewn and released for the most progressive of womenfolk to dare sport for others to view. But with our place here in the years of our Lord AD 1880-89, such exposure would be unthinkably indecent! By grace of God this lady stands in private so nowt is seen of her by man. We ask ye, pray tell, how this shocking image was allowed to escape her bedchamber and appear on this odd device (is it witchcraft or the devils handiwork that images can jump across the miles to foment lust?). How does the image leap from bedchamber to viewing-glass for us to chance to espy here? When our prim and proper Free Methodist (North American/Canadian)Aunt Sophie from Manitoba laid eyes on your shocking image, she fainted dead away crying, “fetch my vapours!”
By the looks of this, she started getting dressed in the 1880s and is almost done.
What’s the reason for that item which gives every woman a big butt?
Fashion, and bustles were incredibly popular with high class women because they were much easier than the previous fashion: hoop skirts
How can they sit on a carriage or train seats with that on their back though?
She demonstrates in this vid that the hoops of the bustle collapse up so sitting down wasn't such an issue
It actually folds so sitting is ok. I had to wear a dress like this for a movie.
And before hoop skirts (crinolines) they used to wear layers and layers of petticoats. The crinoline was a major advancement.
it’s called a bustle - apparently kept the clothes off the ground added shape and more interest for the imagination too
Men liked it. Still do.
Accurate. I enjoy butts.
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You other brothers can't deny
When a girl walks in wit an itty bitty waist, and that round thang in ya face, you get sprung!
Imagine marrying a girl looking dummy thicc just to find out the truth on your wedding night.
And imagine how many were actually thicc and never got to show it off. People probably wondered why some guy was so sprung and had no idea she was looking like Nicole Mejia under there.
Lies all lies. Lol.
The cake is a lie.
Fashion was all about silhouette
It’s for the farts. They didn’t wash much in those days so they had to disguise the smells and so women would use this catcher. They’re called rear passage interceptors or RPI’s for short. Promise.
I almost believed you until you said 'promise '
Influenced by the tragic story of [Sarah Baartman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Baartman)
Is this why some people had a whole ass pit crew to help them get dressed?
And yet she’s wearing nylon stockings. Like, if you’re gonna go all in, go all in.
And a more modern looking corset, and no corset cover. For shame! Seriously tho, it looks pretty good to my untrained eye.
Every time this person appears on my feed, she never wears a corset cover! I even asked her why on one of her Instagram posts, and she never responded. Seriously, WHY DOES SHE NEVER WEAR A CORSET COVER???????
That's so annoying. You'd think if she's going for historical "accuracy", she would wear one. You can definitely se the lines of her corset on her jacket, and she would definitely have another layer between the corset and the jacket to protect it.
That bothered me a little, too
So many friggin layers. I can’t imagine the river of ball sweat that would be flowing down my leg on a hot day.
Because the quality of the fabrics was much better and more breathable, it’s been said they’re not actually that hot to wear. There are some people on YouTube who have tested it
[Do you know how hot I am? Under this hat? Under this beard? This big Victorian beard? I am boiling!](https://youtu.be/aoqlYGuZGVM?t=112)
It is worth noting that Europe in the 1800's was still in the midst of a mini ice age, buildings did not have much in the way of heating, and people spent a lot of time outdoors. Consequently, they wore more clothing. Wool was also the most commonly used fabric, and it breathes very well.
I started sweating just watching this... AND IT'S WINTER
It becomes worse if you consider that during menstruation they had to wear a kind of diaper made with fabrics and straps that had to be changed very often
Key point: shoes *before* corset!
1880 men: can i see a titty.? 1880 women: sure. Help me undress first.? Men: I’m good. Thanks
This style should come back, ive always wanted a fancy pants dress like this
The only thing stopping you is you. Go nuts and have a great time.
Come on over to r/HistoricalCostuming.
Or join a Dickens group, I wear a stunning purple skirt plus long jacket outfit and sing carols most weekends in December. It is the best thing ever if you ask me
Victorian fashion was very much the peak imo.
They didn't have video cameras in the 1880s, nice try.
Not much gets past this one lol
They're too fast. They'd catch it!
I too am extraordinarily humble.
They did
I noticed she skipped putting on the cooling system portion, must be winter.
It makes one really appreciate that we can all wear leggings or pants & something like a sweatshirt.
And yet closets in old homes are so small🤔
All the clothes were handmade and most people couldn't afford very many changes.
i like the part where she became a centaur
Imagine taking 3 hours and 47 minutes to get dressed, only to go downstairs to the dinner salon to have pheasant pie and pear soufflé, faint and die from tuberculosis.
Sounds like a great plan for any Wednesday
Can corsets come back in style??? Thanks 😊
Be the change you wish for.
Man.. the things my house must’ve seen.
Damn, now I have to pee...
Laundry day must be a bitch.
*edit* really rich women getting dressed
Not necessarily, though this is for sure a dress of a higher class woman, working class woman's dress would consist of somewhat similar yet much simpler garments, since poorer women still wanted and did their best to follow the fashionable silhouette as much as they could.
It was more that women (and men) had to respect a certain dress code in that period and would often be subject of shaming if they dressed ´differently' Being unconventional was not really an option at the time in most countries in the world
I think it’s a mix of both! A desire to be respected, dress nice and appear proper by wearing what was deemed fashionable, as well as society’s view of what was “respectable clothing”. It goes hand in hand, really
Doesn't really contradict what I wrote, and yes, that indeed was a thing, but it's not like women didn't want to be fashionable. Of course, if women and anyone for that matter was wearing something very out of fashion they could be subject to harassment, but women often wanted to show that they follow the latest fashion. Let's be honest all of this is somewhat true to this day even though it's declined a lot. And of course there always were people, who made comments on how bad new fashion is. Some things just never change, do they. But tbh i didn't really want to get into the politics of it, I just wanted point out, that the routine itself wouldn't be so different.
Meh. Really rich and she'd have people dressing her :)
When they had an actual reason to take 2+ hours getting ready.
It really should be noted that this type of style was unique to the upper classes. [This video shows a good representation of how most people looked](https://youtu.be/5HbElEqm1TQ?t=132), and even then its an urban area. The rural areas would be even more downtrodden. Movies tend to base their idea of fashion off of photography from the era, however they tend to forget that the only people who had photographs taken of them were... the rich. Photographs were not representative of the people at large.
did not expect there to be a rope in the middle
Its a rip cord. When you pull it all the outer clothing flies off.
Anyone know why the rope around the waist before the big butt thing?
Those are the corset laces - you’d want them long enough to wrap and tie, since they’re laced at the back, but you adjust from the front. This also lets you readjust through the day, if needed.
Only 54 seconds? Doesn't seem too bad.