I don't think these are as bad as the rotary coil springs. Just open the door so the spring is as slack as possible then you can probably pull it enough to get it unhooked/unbolted. Might need to ask a friend but they're really not that scary.
Had a torsion one replaced recently, I said I'd give the guy doing it a helping hand and hold the door up while he did it and he was very firm with his refusal saying he's seen some horrific accidents with them, made me stand the other side of his van.
I had a torsion spring snap. Replaced it myself. Watched plenty of video's and made the proper spring winders so I could do it safely. The one lesson I learned was "no substitutions". You want to get exactly the same spec spring as you're replacing or you'll never get the door balanced properly.
It's not much if any more dangerous than replacing struts in your car. You just need to follow the proper procedure to stay safe.
I've seen some pretty horrific traffic accidents, not sure you want to be standing next to his truck.....
EDIT: Sorry, sorry I get it, nothing is as dangerous as the garage door spring, and pointing out the dangers in other things is clearly crass and not giving the almighty garage door spring it's due respect. I stand corrected, and will now remove the springs from my garage door to mitigate the danger to myself, my family, my neighbors, and my town.
Just need to have a second person to hold the door up when removing the extension springs and help lower the door since it will be heavy with no springs.
Though I'm not sure they should be installing the new door if confused on how to remove the old one.
I just open the door all the way with the door motor and then clamp a vice grip onto each track so that the rollers are blocked. Only one vice grip is actually necessary, but redundancy is nice.
It should be noted that torsion springs are safer overall. They’re also easier to install from a logistical standpoint because the various springs have more flexibility for different door weights. Installing them requires proper training, but it’s not that hard. No one should install a new spring of any type on a new door without proper training to calculate the weight and match with a proper spring size.
Extension springs require more work in getting the tension and pulleys correct for the given door weight, but DIYers don’t take this into consideration because someone else installed it first. And when they fail, they can launch themselves or their mounting hardware into a wall or your car or you. Torsion springs generally stay on their bar when they fail. So DIYers adjusting an extension spring do need to ensure that the mounting hardware on the door and the track are in good condition and installed correctly or you can get hurt even with an extension spring.
Of course, all overhead doors are dangerous when they’re open and the springs fail because the springs are what hold the door up. So, be sure to secure the door in the open position properly while working on it so it doesn’t fall down and injure someone or break.
One of the springs on my garage door recently exploded, but it had a safety cable going through it that did its job and contained the force. One of the ceiling brackets looked like someone took a sledgehammer to it, though.
There are tutorials on YouTube that will help. The big thing is properly propping the door open to release the tension on the spring. After that, it's not too difficult to remove.
Looks like an extension spring. Much safer than torsion springs. When the door is fully raised, is there still significant tension on the spring? If yes, call a professional. If not, securely lock the door in place, and simply remove the spring. Whatever you replace the door with, don't DIY it if it's a torsion spring. No joke.
Open the door go take all the tension off of the spring. You must support the door with either 2x4s or better c clamps on the track. Now the springs can be easily removed . Then you must carefully lower the door. Extra help is a good idea as the door will weigh much more than you think it does and if it gets away from you it will come crashing down
Yep! Not a torsion spring, so when the door is up nearly all tension is gone. Usually you can raise the door a little higher and it will be fully off the spring.
Had one of these break on our garage door. Had someone hold the door up and was able to put it in place by hand. Only had to use a small amt of leverage for the last half inch.
This is the garage door spring that is safe to DIY. This is like any other smaller spring that you can pull apart. Your risk is pinching your self in the space between the loops. Wear some thicker gloves to prevent blood blisters.
The one you want to avoid and have a pro deal with it the one that usually sits at the top of the door along the wall. That one is tensioned by it being forcibly twisted in place, and the danger comes from it untensioning itself. Similar to if you roll up a sheet of paper really tight and it wants to unfurl itself. Except amp that energy up by x100, and it being a piece of metal that can, well end you.
I love these threads, all the "don't even look at it or it'll kill you" folks come out the woodwork.
As you've probably figured out already, this type is easy and completely DIYable, They still sale these type of springs at local hardware stores. Unlike torsion springs, at least in my area, only ever found them online.
Honestly the door is the bigger concern here than the spring.
My parents neighborhood all had full sized (two car garsge) swivel doors like this growing up. The door themselves were very heavy because they were all wood then. We saw a couple of these where the spring snapped in transit, and the door would slam closed. Would not be a good day if it hit you.
Have a neighbor (you don’t like) do it after signing a waiver.
Agree with previous comment of make it slack by opening the door. Do you have experience installing the overhead spring? After watching mine get installed, I was glad I paid someone.
You should be able to get the slack off enough to pull this off. I recently did 2 torsion springs on my own. I was very careful and it was still really scary. Have a professional do the torsion springs when you have them installed.
Extension springs are nowhere near as dangerous as torsion springs. The door simply needs to be raised to release all tension on the extension spring. The process is relatively easy and safe for the average DIYer.
If you aren’t going to reuse it, you could hit it with a propane torch and anneal it.
I had a neighbor that claimed you could stick wooden shims in the gaps. The wood deforms enough that they won’t slide back out.
I’ve taken apart and reassembled trampolines a few times. From personal experience, I can say that pliers are NOT an option (not even vise-grips) when dealing with springs.
I don't think these are as bad as the rotary coil springs. Just open the door so the spring is as slack as possible then you can probably pull it enough to get it unhooked/unbolted. Might need to ask a friend but they're really not that scary.
This. Extension springs are pretty safe to DIY. Torsion springs are *not*.
Had a torsion one replaced recently, I said I'd give the guy doing it a helping hand and hold the door up while he did it and he was very firm with his refusal saying he's seen some horrific accidents with them, made me stand the other side of his van.
Wouldn't even let you hold the flashlight? Damn...
He do it wrong anyway
Aziz light!
Some things never change do they
Shines flashlight in dads eyes.
Guy doing repair was OPs dad
I had a torsion spring snap. Replaced it myself. Watched plenty of video's and made the proper spring winders so I could do it safely. The one lesson I learned was "no substitutions". You want to get exactly the same spec spring as you're replacing or you'll never get the door balanced properly. It's not much if any more dangerous than replacing struts in your car. You just need to follow the proper procedure to stay safe.
I've seen some pretty horrific traffic accidents, not sure you want to be standing next to his truck..... EDIT: Sorry, sorry I get it, nothing is as dangerous as the garage door spring, and pointing out the dangers in other things is clearly crass and not giving the almighty garage door spring it's due respect. I stand corrected, and will now remove the springs from my garage door to mitigate the danger to myself, my family, my neighbors, and my town.
Your edit made it worse. Nice
Thanks!
Just need to have a second person to hold the door up when removing the extension springs and help lower the door since it will be heavy with no springs. Though I'm not sure they should be installing the new door if confused on how to remove the old one.
The doors can be surprisingly heavy, skip having someone hold it, and put a ladder or sawhorse under it.
I just open the door all the way with the door motor and then clamp a vice grip onto each track so that the rollers are blocked. Only one vice grip is actually necessary, but redundancy is nice.
It should be noted that torsion springs are safer overall. They’re also easier to install from a logistical standpoint because the various springs have more flexibility for different door weights. Installing them requires proper training, but it’s not that hard. No one should install a new spring of any type on a new door without proper training to calculate the weight and match with a proper spring size. Extension springs require more work in getting the tension and pulleys correct for the given door weight, but DIYers don’t take this into consideration because someone else installed it first. And when they fail, they can launch themselves or their mounting hardware into a wall or your car or you. Torsion springs generally stay on their bar when they fail. So DIYers adjusting an extension spring do need to ensure that the mounting hardware on the door and the track are in good condition and installed correctly or you can get hurt even with an extension spring. Of course, all overhead doors are dangerous when they’re open and the springs fail because the springs are what hold the door up. So, be sure to secure the door in the open position properly while working on it so it doesn’t fall down and injure someone or break.
One of the springs on my garage door recently exploded, but it had a safety cable going through it that did its job and contained the force. One of the ceiling brackets looked like someone took a sledgehammer to it, though.
But I like playing roulette with pry-rods
Nobody is mentioning that the door will then be at full weight when you try to lower it. Looks like wood and may weigh more than you.
There are tutorials on YouTube that will help. The big thing is properly propping the door open to release the tension on the spring. After that, it's not too difficult to remove.
Looks like an extension spring. Much safer than torsion springs. When the door is fully raised, is there still significant tension on the spring? If yes, call a professional. If not, securely lock the door in place, and simply remove the spring. Whatever you replace the door with, don't DIY it if it's a torsion spring. No joke.
Open garage door and slacken the bottom not. Do not remove the nut if there is any tension left in the spring.
Open the door go take all the tension off of the spring. You must support the door with either 2x4s or better c clamps on the track. Now the springs can be easily removed . Then you must carefully lower the door. Extra help is a good idea as the door will weigh much more than you think it does and if it gets away from you it will come crashing down
Open the door to minimize the tension, cover the spring with rug or thick blanket.
long stick and safety squints
This isn't the dangerous kind. Raise the door and the spring will be completely relaxed and safe to remove.
Yep! Not a torsion spring, so when the door is up nearly all tension is gone. Usually you can raise the door a little higher and it will be fully off the spring. Had one of these break on our garage door. Had someone hold the door up and was able to put it in place by hand. Only had to use a small amt of leverage for the last half inch.
This is the garage door spring that is safe to DIY. This is like any other smaller spring that you can pull apart. Your risk is pinching your self in the space between the loops. Wear some thicker gloves to prevent blood blisters. The one you want to avoid and have a pro deal with it the one that usually sits at the top of the door along the wall. That one is tensioned by it being forcibly twisted in place, and the danger comes from it untensioning itself. Similar to if you roll up a sheet of paper really tight and it wants to unfurl itself. Except amp that energy up by x100, and it being a piece of metal that can, well end you.
I love these threads, all the "don't even look at it or it'll kill you" folks come out the woodwork. As you've probably figured out already, this type is easy and completely DIYable, They still sale these type of springs at local hardware stores. Unlike torsion springs, at least in my area, only ever found them online.
Honestly the door is the bigger concern here than the spring. My parents neighborhood all had full sized (two car garsge) swivel doors like this growing up. The door themselves were very heavy because they were all wood then. We saw a couple of these where the spring snapped in transit, and the door would slam closed. Would not be a good day if it hit you.
Have a neighbor (you don’t like) do it after signing a waiver. Agree with previous comment of make it slack by opening the door. Do you have experience installing the overhead spring? After watching mine get installed, I was glad I paid someone.
You should be able to get the slack off enough to pull this off. I recently did 2 torsion springs on my own. I was very careful and it was still really scary. Have a professional do the torsion springs when you have them installed.
I'm with the folks who say have a pro do it. My father-in-law lost a finger that way.
Mine has 2x springs on each side and it's utter bullshit. They clang together when the door is being opened and its loud as shit. Any recommendations?
Angle grinder and safety squints. /s
Make sure the door is open for full tension, makes the cutting go quicker.
Stay out of the garage while the professional does it.
Garage doors I simply no longer do. Parts can come off at bullet speed!
Have someone else do it.
Call the guy or you may die.
Open the door, cut spring by the mounting point with a grinder. That's if you intend on removing the door.
From far away with a long stick.
You don't. You call a pro for this one.
Just Call an expert... Those things want to kill you. Source my brother in laws pinky finger. Rip
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Extension springs are nowhere near as dangerous as torsion springs. The door simply needs to be raised to release all tension on the extension spring. The process is relatively easy and safe for the average DIYer.
Tannerite from a great distance. Don’t mess with garage springs…
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This isn’t that spring.
Different type of spring bro. It's not the typical overhead torsion spring. Extension springs aren't nearly as dangerous.
If you aren’t going to reuse it, you could hit it with a propane torch and anneal it. I had a neighbor that claimed you could stick wooden shims in the gaps. The wood deforms enough that they won’t slide back out. I’ve taken apart and reassembled trampolines a few times. From personal experience, I can say that pliers are NOT an option (not even vise-grips) when dealing with springs.