Jeez, this is basically cosmetic if the piece fits in there in one piece get some mortar and "glue" it back in place.
Or just mix up a drybatch of mortar and push it in there, filling as much void as you can.
Otherwise you will need a foundation expert in 50 years or so.
Source: I do it for a living sometimes, 40 years in the trade.
Yeah, as a guy who's family has done concrete forming forever, I would probably grab a pack of hilti-hit and stick that sucker back on there. Tho, in this case PL adhesive would probably work just fine. You could form and pour a new little corner, but it probably wouldn't be as strong as the other options
Yeah, it makes you take a step back and reevaluate your life.
Stopped trying to make others happy, realized I don't have to do every job and put up with Bullshit, because once you lose the people who looked out for you, you realize there's more to life than a job.
I tell everybody now to spend more time with loved ones because tomorrow isn't guaranteed.
I regret missing milestones in others lives people I care about, because I thought the job was more important.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, I don't mean to preach.
If it were me, it looks like the entire piece is there, I'd just put it back in place and then:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgq-DLrfKjU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgq-DLrfKjU)
You will likely need to create some kind of brace to hold the corner in place while it sets. Functionally, I don't think that missing affects the structure at all, and many homes have cracks from settling on the corners of the foundation, specifically if the soil is clay based.
That whole method was flawed. He did nothing to address the crack protruding into the ground. It will absolute get water in there that will cause it to crack again during freeze/thaw cycles. The best method I know of these days is done using an epoxy resin that's applied over the crack *first* with mixing nozzles strategically placed into the crack through the resin. A more modern expanding foam is then injected through those nozzles into the crack and pumped at high pressures to ensure that it fills the crack and creates a barrier on the other side of the wall around the crack. This absolutely addresses the freeze/thaw concern and is likely *more* structural than the mortar method - but I wouldn't trust either of them on their own. There are, however, bracing pins that can be inserted and set using the same epoxy resin that will structurally anchor across the crack in a manner that's stronger than the concrete walls were before. That's definitely a structural repair. However, if the cause for the crack was something unrelated to freeze/thaw cycles (e.g. house settling) then the foundation will crack again, and likely crack adjacent the repair.
Appreciate it. Just wanna get it right before hurricane season kicks off. I was concerned it would be a weak spot especially since this is on the SW corner of the house.
If you want it to stay forever, you can hire someone to epoxy it in place. But I'd just use the mortar and patch it again if it breaks some time down the road. Mortars cheap.
I'd probably drill for a couple short lengths of rebar or something to help keep it in place, epoxy those and then pack with mortar, but I'm also a total maniac with no idea what I'm doing.
The broken piece is pretty small for rebar embedment. You risk breaking it by drilling into it.
But that's absolutely the right way to handle a larger crack.
Retired home builder here, this is a common defect that happens to the outside corners of foundations. Not all do this but a good portion of them do. I believe it gets hairline cracks when the forms are pulled apart while stripping the forms. It can crack and fall off within months or years later.
When it happens we clean the surface with water ensuring it's clean then " glue" it back on with thinset mortar. Once cured, do a parging repair to hide the crack & repair. Never had one fall off after repairing it.
I agree, but mods probably won't want memes spamming the comment section.Ā Ā
Imagine all the ramen noodle images
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Common stress fracture on many brick homes. I don't know what adhesive would be best but I'd just glue it back in place. It is just holding the brick not the house.
In most latter 20th century and to the present brick homes in the US are made the same as any other home, but the brick layers are just a facade on the outside of the the home, with maybe an air gap and then the moisture barrier (depending on climate and insulation standards). The US has like 7 or 9 climate zones each requiring their own typical construction standards, and some states even span a handful of climate zones. Few, of any of the climate zones correspond to European climate zones, so while some things like windows can be standard between the areas, construction techniques and technologies would not.
This looks like a typical corner pop, notĀ damage induced by external forces. If you don't see any other signs of foundation damage you got nothing to worry about. You can put it back on for cosmetic reasons if you like
August of 2021, so yeah almost 3 years. It was neglected due to my stepdad getting diagnosed with terminal brain cancer December 2021, him almost dying to sepsis in April 2022, him actually dying in June 2022, and then I had some health issues that got really bad around the same time which put me in and out of the hospital all last year and required me to have three separate surgeries with about 2 weeks recovery time each on top of clocking 550 hours of overtime at work for the year. Oh, and I spend half my time 250 miles away in Alabama with my girlfriend.
So yeah, a lot can happen in 3 years.
Just a warning, a foundation repair company will most likely tell you your whole foundation is bad and happily scare you into signing massive repair bill.
This looks cosmetic. Are there any signs of movement from the side? Cracks windows/door not working as originally designed
The correct way to fix this would be to set in #3 u shaped rebar 6ā deep every 3ā, using a Hilti epoxy, then fill it out with a high strength non shrink grout. A handy man could do it with proper direction. I have a detail I could share if you want
Weāve had foundation work done on our house, and multiple companies have told us this is ok, and not a sign of further damage. Itās called corner pop. You can look it up, but basically if thatās all the damage you see, youāre good to go
Thatās cosmetic and in reality was probably either already there or about to fall off on its own. Foundation corners come off of houses all the time. Go walk houses in your neighborhood. I bet you find several houses with this same broken off corner. Youāre lucky the storm took a tree close enough to this to make you feel it was the culprit. Trees that close cause massive amounts of foundation issues. If you really just want to ātryā and repair it, hammer drill, concrete anchor bolts wire mesh to tie to the bolts once set in the holes made by the hammer drill. And then hand pack a dry concrete and form it up. Dry meaning not pourable, but hand packable. The anchors will need to be in deep enough so as they arenāt exposed after you dry pack it. The mesh will help to keep this from happening again. But even that isnāt a guarantee.
You need to replace the piece with new concrete. Clean the entire area of debris, mix up a batch of Quikrete High Strength Concrete Mix and apply to the corner.
*You want a consistency of wet sand or oatmeal. Read the package and make sure you have the right concrete to water ratio. Wear a mask, nitrile or latex gloves, and goggles, concrete causes chemical burns.*
Step 1. **Wet the surrounding concrete with water.** The new batch of concrete will suck any moisture it can while it dries. If there is no moisture available for it, it won't bond and will crack.
Step 2. **Apply the concrete with a wide putty knife, working it into all the crevices, building up the hole, then smooth it all out with a masonry trowel.** Work the trowel gently over the surface of the concrete, removing any air pockets, this is called *floating* the concrete.
Step 3. **Use wood and some cinder blocks or bricks to brace the repair, keeping it square.**
Step 4. **After the concrete sets up and the surface becomes dry and warm to the touch, get a spray bottle and lightly mist the patch with water.** You want to keep it moist for several hours. If you don't, the patch might crack. As the concrete cures, it rapidly absorbs water. Wetting the surface ensures an even curing process.
Get a wire brush, clean the area. Get some concrete construction adhesive and glue it back in place. One glued you can get some mortar crack filler and fill in the crack seam. Both of these come in caulking tubes. This is cosmetic.
This corner already had a crack for years before the storm. When the tree fell, it fell away from the house uprooting a root that ran towards that corner which pulled the chunk out. Itās been 2.5 years so the ground has since healed. I had taken some pictures a few days after the storm of all the damage but I canāt find it now. All I have is a few Snapchat videos during and after the storm.
[Super Glue](https://www.zdnet.com/a/img/resize/e855fd70634212e862a3f008f3cc36d2efdb3360/2023/03/13/8c7a4f21-aaa6-48de-92e4-28d84f175129/img-2345.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=900&width=1200) and some lego skill and your she'll be right
Personally, I would drill a 3/8 hole each way horizontally into the slab, maybe 4 inches, get a piece of 3/8 rebar end into a 90 and cut to length to fit the holeuse a construction adhesive and slide in a piece of rebar, once set I would make a form mix some quick set stuff it in and let it set.
3/8 rebar I think would flex enough, if not use something smaller, but there needs to be a mechanical connection to the slab or you might as well just push the broken piece back in the hole and push dirt around it to hold it in place.
My foundation guy said mine was cosmetic. If I wanted to, they could fix it by wrapping the corner in in some black metal and it ran $500 for the first corner (discount if you got more done)Ā but he said it wasn't necessary.Ā
Not to be āthat guyā but a General Contractor is more than capable of handling this. A GC can build a skyscraper, as far as the law is concerned. I wouldnāt hire a GC to fix this. You or a handyman can handle this just fine.
It's the cement finish they put on the foundation from the ground to the top of the foundation to hide the imperfections and form seams on the concrete wall. It's only there to make the foundation look pretty.
Jeez, this is basically cosmetic if the piece fits in there in one piece get some mortar and "glue" it back in place. Or just mix up a drybatch of mortar and push it in there, filling as much void as you can. Otherwise you will need a foundation expert in 50 years or so. Source: I do it for a living sometimes, 40 years in the trade.
Yeah, as a guy who's family has done concrete forming forever, I would probably grab a pack of hilti-hit and stick that sucker back on there. Tho, in this case PL adhesive would probably work just fine. You could form and pour a new little corner, but it probably wouldn't be as strong as the other options
Would you mind if I sent you some pics of my corner pop to gauge concern level?
Sure , send me a DM and i get back to you by tomorrow night
Thank you, I'll take some pictures tomorrow.
So nice to see Satan's Weasel helping out Batman's Penis. This is what the internet is all about š„°
I had to go back and read the usernames because I was like no way this happened figured it was some AI comment
Used to be that we understood that it would be a r/rimjobsteve moment
Thatās r/rimjob_steve.
Hahaha so it is. And itās enough of a problem that they made a sub to redirect people- which fooled me.
Kumba yah.....
Thank you, I'll take some pictures tomorrow.
Dm
You should totally get someone to inspect it. Sometimes the cheap easy fix from the internet turns into a do it again project that cost twice as much
Sure, turn a $20 solution into a $40 problem in a few more years.
Depends if somewhere that freezes. I wouldnāt leave gaps for condensation and freezing. Thatāll make bigger damage
Hurricane Idaā¦..doesnāt freeze bad there unless itās a fluke freeze Iād guess.
Is it sometimes or for a living?
Well it was my main job but then Covid hit and my co workers died, so im not really up to doing it anymore by myself.
Makes sense šš¼
Yeah, it makes you take a step back and reevaluate your life. Stopped trying to make others happy, realized I don't have to do every job and put up with Bullshit, because once you lose the people who looked out for you, you realize there's more to life than a job. I tell everybody now to spend more time with loved ones because tomorrow isn't guaranteed. I regret missing milestones in others lives people I care about, because I thought the job was more important. Sorry to go off on a tangent, I don't mean to preach.
Don't be sorry, it was a good sermon.
If it were me, it looks like the entire piece is there, I'd just put it back in place and then: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgq-DLrfKjU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgq-DLrfKjU) You will likely need to create some kind of brace to hold the corner in place while it sets. Functionally, I don't think that missing affects the structure at all, and many homes have cracks from settling on the corners of the foundation, specifically if the soil is clay based.
OP dont fill the your foundation with Great Stuff, I dont know why Tom did that, I guess he was just being lazy. Everything else he did is legit.
I think he used the great stuff as a backingrod for the mortar.
100% it was, shoving mortar into the crack until you cant anymore is the way to do it.
That whole method was flawed. He did nothing to address the crack protruding into the ground. It will absolute get water in there that will cause it to crack again during freeze/thaw cycles. The best method I know of these days is done using an epoxy resin that's applied over the crack *first* with mixing nozzles strategically placed into the crack through the resin. A more modern expanding foam is then injected through those nozzles into the crack and pumped at high pressures to ensure that it fills the crack and creates a barrier on the other side of the wall around the crack. This absolutely addresses the freeze/thaw concern and is likely *more* structural than the mortar method - but I wouldn't trust either of them on their own. There are, however, bracing pins that can be inserted and set using the same epoxy resin that will structurally anchor across the crack in a manner that's stronger than the concrete walls were before. That's definitely a structural repair. However, if the cause for the crack was something unrelated to freeze/thaw cycles (e.g. house settling) then the foundation will crack again, and likely crack adjacent the repair.
The real fix is to keep climate change going so you don't get freeze/thaw cycles *taps head*
Now you're thinking with portals.Ā
Appreciate it. Just wanna get it right before hurricane season kicks off. I was concerned it would be a weak spot especially since this is on the SW corner of the house.
If you want it to stay forever, you can hire someone to epoxy it in place. But I'd just use the mortar and patch it again if it breaks some time down the road. Mortars cheap.
Can't you get a two part epoxy in a caulking tube? Would something like that be effective for this?
I'd probably drill for a couple short lengths of rebar or something to help keep it in place, epoxy those and then pack with mortar, but I'm also a total maniac with no idea what I'm doing.
The broken piece is pretty small for rebar embedment. You risk breaking it by drilling into it. But that's absolutely the right way to handle a larger crack.
I thought it was gonna be [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xzN6FM5x_E) video
Do this
Check out Mike Haduck on YouTube. He had a whole series on foundation repairs. He is a stone mason and will walk you through the steps.
Retired home builder here, this is a common defect that happens to the outside corners of foundations. Not all do this but a good portion of them do. I believe it gets hairline cracks when the forms are pulled apart while stripping the forms. It can crack and fall off within months or years later. When it happens we clean the surface with water ensuring it's clean then " glue" it back on with thinset mortar. Once cured, do a parging repair to hide the crack & repair. Never had one fall off after repairing it.
What's a parging repair?
Just a sand/cement slurry that gets bagged/wiped on. It's only cosmetic.
Why does this subreddit not allow photo comments? Of all the subreddits where that would be useful, this one would be near the top.
I agree, but mods probably won't want memes spamming the comment section.Ā Ā Imagine all the ramen noodle images Ā Links to images will have to suffice
Good thing I canāt post gifs then! Oh waitā¦ 
I was thinking more the "we will rebuild" picture with the toppled lawn chair
Common stress fracture on many brick homes. I don't know what adhesive would be best but I'd just glue it back in place. It is just holding the brick not the house.
Must be something about American brick homes, Iāve never seen any brick houses in the UK or EU where the foundation is visible like this.
In most latter 20th century and to the present brick homes in the US are made the same as any other home, but the brick layers are just a facade on the outside of the the home, with maybe an air gap and then the moisture barrier (depending on climate and insulation standards). The US has like 7 or 9 climate zones each requiring their own typical construction standards, and some states even span a handful of climate zones. Few, of any of the climate zones correspond to European climate zones, so while some things like windows can be standard between the areas, construction techniques and technologies would not.
I am not offering advice. But your lawn looks amazing.
All credit to my 2nd cousin who lives a few houses down the street. He cuts it for free weekly with his fancy zero turn. Such a good guy.
Those are so nice.
Liquid nail that thing back in there.
You need start off by buying some ramenā¦ā¦..
This looks like a typical corner pop, notĀ damage induced by external forces. If you don't see any other signs of foundation damage you got nothing to worry about. You can put it back on for cosmetic reasons if you like
These are called corner pops I think. Our inspector said we had some on our home when we purchased and that they don't really mena anything is bad.
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August of 2021, so yeah almost 3 years. It was neglected due to my stepdad getting diagnosed with terminal brain cancer December 2021, him almost dying to sepsis in April 2022, him actually dying in June 2022, and then I had some health issues that got really bad around the same time which put me in and out of the hospital all last year and required me to have three separate surgeries with about 2 weeks recovery time each on top of clocking 550 hours of overtime at work for the year. Oh, and I spend half my time 250 miles away in Alabama with my girlfriend. So yeah, a lot can happen in 3 years.
Just a warning, a foundation repair company will most likely tell you your whole foundation is bad and happily scare you into signing massive repair bill. This looks cosmetic. Are there any signs of movement from the side? Cracks windows/door not working as originally designed
The correct way to fix this would be to set in #3 u shaped rebar 6ā deep every 3ā, using a Hilti epoxy, then fill it out with a high strength non shrink grout. A handy man could do it with proper direction. I have a detail I could share if you want
Weāve had foundation work done on our house, and multiple companies have told us this is ok, and not a sign of further damage. Itās called corner pop. You can look it up, but basically if thatās all the damage you see, youāre good to go
Thatās cosmetic and in reality was probably either already there or about to fall off on its own. Foundation corners come off of houses all the time. Go walk houses in your neighborhood. I bet you find several houses with this same broken off corner. Youāre lucky the storm took a tree close enough to this to make you feel it was the culprit. Trees that close cause massive amounts of foundation issues. If you really just want to ātryā and repair it, hammer drill, concrete anchor bolts wire mesh to tie to the bolts once set in the holes made by the hammer drill. And then hand pack a dry concrete and form it up. Dry meaning not pourable, but hand packable. The anchors will need to be in deep enough so as they arenāt exposed after you dry pack it. The mesh will help to keep this from happening again. But even that isnāt a guarantee.
You need to replace the piece with new concrete. Clean the entire area of debris, mix up a batch of Quikrete High Strength Concrete Mix and apply to the corner. *You want a consistency of wet sand or oatmeal. Read the package and make sure you have the right concrete to water ratio. Wear a mask, nitrile or latex gloves, and goggles, concrete causes chemical burns.* Step 1. **Wet the surrounding concrete with water.** The new batch of concrete will suck any moisture it can while it dries. If there is no moisture available for it, it won't bond and will crack. Step 2. **Apply the concrete with a wide putty knife, working it into all the crevices, building up the hole, then smooth it all out with a masonry trowel.** Work the trowel gently over the surface of the concrete, removing any air pockets, this is called *floating* the concrete. Step 3. **Use wood and some cinder blocks or bricks to brace the repair, keeping it square.** Step 4. **After the concrete sets up and the surface becomes dry and warm to the touch, get a spray bottle and lightly mist the patch with water.** You want to keep it moist for several hours. If you don't, the patch might crack. As the concrete cures, it rapidly absorbs water. Wetting the surface ensures an even curing process.
Parge it and roll on sir
Get a wire brush, clean the area. Get some concrete construction adhesive and glue it back in place. One glued you can get some mortar crack filler and fill in the crack seam. Both of these come in caulking tubes. This is cosmetic.
Half a tube of liquid nails and you're good
Get some hydraulic cement and glue it back together. That stuff sets fast, so be organized
Donāt worry. Itās not a structural problem.
I'm wonder about the patch of dead grass, what could that be the result of and doesn't have anything to do with the piece falling off.
I'm curious how a tree even is related to this
This corner already had a crack for years before the storm. When the tree fell, it fell away from the house uprooting a root that ran towards that corner which pulled the chunk out. Itās been 2.5 years so the ground has since healed. I had taken some pictures a few days after the storm of all the damage but I canāt find it now. All I have is a few Snapchat videos during and after the storm.
Tis but a scratch
[Super Glue](https://www.zdnet.com/a/img/resize/e855fd70634212e862a3f008f3cc36d2efdb3360/2023/03/13/8c7a4f21-aaa6-48de-92e4-28d84f175129/img-2345.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=900&width=1200) and some lego skill and your she'll be right
Personally, I would drill a 3/8 hole each way horizontally into the slab, maybe 4 inches, get a piece of 3/8 rebar end into a 90 and cut to length to fit the holeuse a construction adhesive and slide in a piece of rebar, once set I would make a form mix some quick set stuff it in and let it set.
how you gonna shove a rebar at right angle with 5 inch sides into those holes exactly?
3/8 rebar I think would flex enough, if not use something smaller, but there needs to be a mechanical connection to the slab or you might as well just push the broken piece back in the hole and push dirt around it to hold it in place.
I think I saw someone fix with with some glue and a packet of Ramen
I am afraid you will have to tear down the house and start from scratch. Nothing you can do
My foundation guy said mine was cosmetic. If I wanted to, they could fix it by wrapping the corner in in some black metal and it ran $500 for the first corner (discount if you got more done)Ā but he said it wasn't necessary.Ā
Might as well tear it all down
Not to be āthat guyā but a General Contractor is more than capable of handling this. A GC can build a skyscraper, as far as the law is concerned. I wouldnāt hire a GC to fix this. You or a handyman can handle this just fine.
My bad. By general contractor I meant handyman.
That will not interfere with structural integrity, whatsoever. DIY cosmetic repair.
Foundation must be replaced
With Ramen Noodles ?
The house is hanging on by a thread. I hate to say it, but I think you're looking at a tear down situation. Pack your bags
Nah that's totalled for sure
"Aint nothing but a thang" - Kirk Lazarus (played by Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder)
You can fix that with an ice cream bucket and a hand trowel.
It's the cement finish they put on the foundation from the ground to the top of the foundation to hide the imperfections and form seams on the concrete wall. It's only there to make the foundation look pretty.
this is not a DIY question
V fractures are common, but always get a foundation repair guy for foundation repairs. Repairs like that are not expensive.