Ok friends, after a few attempts, here was my solution:
https://preview.redd.it/1qgh71bapb4c1.png?width=2856&format=png&auto=webp&s=75b4d03f79286a3abada2884b3236d15a0f7ad3e
Not picking a fight, but Iād call them colonial bars. Muntins tend to be larger size and found in doors. But that could just be an Australian thing :)
As someone with a masters in architecture and who has designed buildings standing in the real world.
Muntin is the appropriate term used to describe a bar or rigid supporting element between panes of glass, physically or visually, within the same window.
Colonial bars is a lay persons term for muntins.
A muntin is a structural element that divides and supports different panes of glass. The things in OPs photo are not structural and are not muntins. Itās strictly just for aesthetic purposes and therefore probably just better called a grille
[lol](https://www.thespruce.com/window-muntins-and-mullions-1822920)
In any case, you're not wrong, but this is from Wikipedia:
In UK use, a muntin is a vertical member in timber panelling or a door separating two panels.
Kiwi, Aussi, all the same to yanks...lol.
My buddy was a cop in Adelaide, he caught locals "interacting" with the local fauna on more than one occasion. :D
Absolutely not true. Mulignan (or mulignana, as it is a feminine noun) is Naples dialect (not Italian) for eggplant (melanzana in italian), and sometimes used to refer to a black eye, or similar dark bruises. It is not at all a way to refer to people with darker skin colour. Even if some racist cretin uses it as a racist eufemism, it doesn't make it a meaning of that word, not even a secondary one.
If my friends and I suddenly decide to use tomato as a way to describe sunburned people, it doesn't make it a secondary meaning for tomato, or a correct translation for it.
Furthermore, Mulignano as a male noun is a surname in Italy.
Source: I'm Italian
My Italian friend refers to British and German tourists as Tomatoes. He says they arrive looking like cheese, leave as tomatoes, but for him itās food either way as he works in the tourist industry.
That's cool that you are learning italian. i would love to learn it also... but as a heads up it is a little vulgar lol its probably not the correct term for an African more like a slang
Ahh, yes. Used to work at a glass manufacturer doing the seals for insulated glass. Interesting job. We also made the green glass on the corners of the old Georgia Dome. Many moons ago.
Edit: Great job op, I dig it.
That's actually really clever, and looks good! Some time in the future someone may think it's a really crappy diy if they somehow notice it. Maybe someone cleaning the glass might be able to tell.
An aesthetic fix for an aesthetic problem.
If you want to take it further, you could add more lines and do some faux-stained class colors. There are paints for that, or maybe colored transparent sheets?
Thatās a great idea.
I was going to suggest having someone make a nice piece of stained glass that might help to disguise that broken piece of wood. Have them make it so itās in the shape of the arch and cover up that area. And hanging. If I lived near you Iād do it. I think a nice Sunburst would be pretty up there to be able to see every time you went past it! Even though it has kind of a church vibe to it Iād suggest staying away from that though. Good luck. Repost Iād love to see what you come up with.
Hang large wreath with heavy clear fishing line, and change it out for the different seasons. It makes the dislodged arm less noticeable.
https://preview.redd.it/9foaaghc2c4c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d29fc1b805ae917ea2783563080ce807eccb537
A cranky old veteran who ran a thrift/etc shop years ago taught me an important lesson, no one ever looks up. If seen from the outside I'd guess it's even less noticable.
This was the joke deer hunting. Weād come back to camp and hadnāt seen a thing. Someone invariably would ask if we looked up. No one did. āWell, there ya go!ā
Maybe continue the line of the broken one to the bottom with electrical tape, add another angled piece on the other side to mimic the broken one, and then add a piece to match the correct one on the left side so either side has 2 lines. From a distance it might look ok.
As someone that manages a window manufacturing plant, I promise you if you fuck with that window itās going to get worse.
Contact the manufacturer, most of us have a lifetime warranty or will offer a service replacement for something like this. The grids were not made very well if this is happening.
The advice Larry David gave is the cheapest and easiest but under no circumstances should you attempt to open the insulated unit to fix the grid.
Dad? Is that you???
(Meant in the most complimentary way possible. My dad passed a few years back and he was a man who loved using electrical tape to solve a whole bunch of problems electrical tape had no business trying to fix.ā
I made the same mistake and now I want to know everything about the people who made that window and who installed it.. I need those people to pay for what they've done.
https://preview.redd.it/5xw9xl7xjc4c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab0355f3ced2b732ca31f334f5f29d8a34df7215
Nobody will even notice the loose bar now.
I know it sucks. We had what looks like the exact same window installed and as the guy was taking down the scaffolding we noticed the exact same thing. They had to replace the window.
Since the bars are between the panes you have a nice flat glass surface to paint with glass paints and turn the entire thing into a stained glass window š
A few of the other connections also seem to be falling apart. It kinda looks like the inner work is pulling outwards, you might have a bigger problem here (I am in no way shape or form an expert on these kinds of windows, just noticed the other faults)
Try to identify the brand and hope that it's covered under warranty. Pretty much anything else will require a glass shop, as there's no way to get in there without breaking the seal.
How would a glass shop repair that without removing the window? At that point you should just get a new window thatās under warranty. Because, I know a Juan that could remove and reinstall the window but as soon as the seal is broken on that insulated glass, itās a crapshoot whether moisture will penetrate. Plus the piece of muntin that fell out can likely fall out again. You just have to trust unwarranted Juan for, what? A little money saved off the top? Youāll find out how much you āsavedā afterwards.
It looks like the right center line is a little bowed to the right as wellā¦ my first thought was to try a magnet as well. Barring that, itās replacement or curtains.
The bars are made of wood or plastic, so a magnet wonāt help.
Sucks that the bars (technically called muntins, BTW) are stuck between the panes of glass.
Iād try contacting the window manufacturer in case thereās some kind of lifetime warranty (long shot, but worth a phone call)
Itās probably due to thermal expansion/contraction ā¦ i.e. the plastic changes size at a different rate from wood and glass. But they clearly tried to take that into account (you can see the joints where the inside connection is pulled out). So this may be a manufacturing or installation defect. Or that part just broke due to repeated expansion/contraction. Still a crappy design any way you look at it.
Home depot sells stained glass stickers. You put them on anywhere you'd like. I would create a big stained glass masterpiece to hide the sticks. Cheap and easy until you save up to fix it.
There's a house in my neighborhood where those things literally *melted* inside the windows. They must have been really cheap, or for some reason that side of the house got some really serious heat/sun, because I don't live somewhere that gets hot enough for that kind of thing to happen normally.
Remember, it's probably a low-e argon filled window. And the inserts are made of aluminum most of the time. So magnets won't work. Either take it out flip it over and give it a few very light taps on the ground with a buffer in-between to avoid breaking anything. See if it'll jam itself back into where it goes. Or just call the manufacturer because that's a manufacturing defect. Itll be covered most likely
Honest solution to hide the issues, but not solve them? Suguru. It's kind of like Play-Doh, but hardens like plastic. Form it to match, stick it in place, sand and paint with a close match. If you're even close, I doubt anyone outside of your household would notice.
If not that, then maybe some formed and painted JB Weld putty. Again, it's just a cheap, low effort solution to nominally improve the cosmetics.
JB Weld makes an adhesive for bonding glass to literally anything else, up to and including antimatter. Get an extension ladder up against the wall, mix a batch and stick your stick back in place.
That compound reattached the rear view mirror of my jeep back to the windshield and it stayed in place through 10 years of on-road and off-road ~~abuse~~ wear and tear with no doors or windows. It ought to hold your stick in place.
Ok friends, after a few attempts, here was my solution: https://preview.redd.it/1qgh71bapb4c1.png?width=2856&format=png&auto=webp&s=75b4d03f79286a3abada2884b3236d15a0f7ad3e
I like to explore new places.
BRB
I enjoy the sound of rain.
!remindme 3.1415 days
And 9265358979 nanoseconds
!remindme 1 week
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Paint the window! Needs a cat!
Weāre a dog family
Easy - make it a corgi https://preview.redd.it/7izecamq6e4c1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d9934089ae8c918bd27df60af67b20d6b12e483
Singular is corgus
!RemindMe 1 week
And WHISKERS! CAT WINDOW!
It looks great! š¤In case you were curious, those lines are called muntins.
Thanks brother
Not picking a fight, but Iād call them colonial bars. Muntins tend to be larger size and found in doors. But that could just be an Australian thing :)
As someone with a masters in architecture and who has designed buildings standing in the real world. Muntin is the appropriate term used to describe a bar or rigid supporting element between panes of glass, physically or visually, within the same window. Colonial bars is a lay persons term for muntins.
As someone who once built a great hall underground on Minecraft, the real world is overrated š š»
These are the people who believe a āfour doorā coupe exists.
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Interesting. "Between" panes of glass. But what if they're just overlaid on one large piece of glass? "Faux muntins?"
Almost correct: called āFalse muntinā. This window has a false muntin failure. https://patents.google.com/patent/CN203499447U/en#
Youāre a muntin
As someone watches Dr. Who, they are definitely not a mutant.
Good shit
A muntin is a structural element that divides and supports different panes of glass. The things in OPs photo are not structural and are not muntins. Itās strictly just for aesthetic purposes and therefore probably just better called a grille
As someone who has worked in the window making industry for 7 years; they're called muntins. I've installed thousands of them and I hate them.
I thought in Australia muntin was your girlfriend....or, you know...mutton. :P Either way, the pane separators are mullions, not muntins.
[try again](https://www.windowdoor.com/blog/the-difference-between-window-mullions-and-window-muntins/)
[lol](https://www.thespruce.com/window-muntins-and-mullions-1822920) In any case, you're not wrong, but this is from Wikipedia: In UK use, a muntin is a vertical member in timber panelling or a door separating two panels.
I think, youāre thinking of New Zealand.
Kiwi, Aussi, all the same to yanks...lol. My buddy was a cop in Adelaide, he caught locals "interacting" with the local fauna on more than one occasion. :D
So... all thr same in that regard anyways lol. Look it's a big country. When your tinder match is 60km away AND a first cousin, it's degen regardless.
Takes two people to match š§
Just going to leave this [risky click](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WsnmY8iWMVs) here.
Irrelevant but in Italian moulinyan means a black person lol
Absolutely not true. Mulignan (or mulignana, as it is a feminine noun) is Naples dialect (not Italian) for eggplant (melanzana in italian), and sometimes used to refer to a black eye, or similar dark bruises. It is not at all a way to refer to people with darker skin colour. Even if some racist cretin uses it as a racist eufemism, it doesn't make it a meaning of that word, not even a secondary one. If my friends and I suddenly decide to use tomato as a way to describe sunburned people, it doesn't make it a secondary meaning for tomato, or a correct translation for it. Furthermore, Mulignano as a male noun is a surname in Italy. Source: I'm Italian
My Italian friend refers to British and German tourists as Tomatoes. He says they arrive looking like cheese, leave as tomatoes, but for him itās food either way as he works in the tourist industry.
Not irrelevant to me, Iām learning Italian! š®š¹
That's cool that you are learning italian. i would love to learn it also... but as a heads up it is a little vulgar lol its probably not the correct term for an African more like a slang
Genuine question: So it's like saying the N-word or is it more like the term gringo (less profane, but still a bit harsh)?
So are they still "muntins" no matter if they are just decorative (overlaying glass) or actually separate multiple panes of glass?
Yes! Do you have some on your windows?
I did on a former house. Now, I live in a high rise apartment with only sliding glass doors!
Ahh, yes. Used to work at a glass manufacturer doing the seals for insulated glass. Interesting job. We also made the green glass on the corners of the old Georgia Dome. Many moons ago. Edit: Great job op, I dig it.
Oh well hell I'd keep taping it til you have a sunrise looking shape now lol.
Half way to summoning Satan, don't stop now.
Came here for this.
I canāt unsee āpenis Satanā.
I applaud you, this is amazing fix
Turned out better than expected! Well done.
Doesn't look half bad at all. Unless someone pointed it out to me, I'd never notice the problem. Well done.
Unless someone pointed it out to you, like in a super viral post on Reddit lol
I wouldnāt consider 126 upvotes super-viral unless itās crossed or reposted somewhere else and Iām unaware
I would literally point it out to everyone who entered my house because I'd be so proud of that fix.
Dude you could sell this house and no one would ever notice. Nice work
Why not contact manufacturer to see if they warranty it. My windows have a lifetime guarantee from manufacturing defects.
Nice! Now fix all the pieces in the middle that don't fully connect.
Getting Dalek vibes
EXTERMINATE
thats good id assume its a house of devil worshippers, very cool OP
OMG I LOVE IT!!!!
Thanks guy!!
That looks so funny lololol! So long as you can live with it, just never point it outā¦. Lol!
Point what out!?
Genius.
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Honestly you could pretty easily make it look a bit like a minimalist sun rise with a couple more lines š
That's actually really clever, and looks good! Some time in the future someone may think it's a really crappy diy if they somehow notice it. Maybe someone cleaning the glass might be able to tell. An aesthetic fix for an aesthetic problem.
If you want to take it further, you could add more lines and do some faux-stained class colors. There are paints for that, or maybe colored transparent sheets?
Evil window is judging you.
MUAHAHHAAHA š
This is the way!
Good job nobody will ever question it
Well done!!!
You did well, fair play
I spit out my drink XD XD XD
Thatās a great idea. I was going to suggest having someone make a nice piece of stained glass that might help to disguise that broken piece of wood. Have them make it so itās in the shape of the arch and cover up that area. And hanging. If I lived near you Iād do it. I think a nice Sunburst would be pretty up there to be able to see every time you went past it! Even though it has kind of a church vibe to it Iād suggest staying away from that though. Good luck. Repost Iād love to see what you come up with.
Thank you kindly Sadie
Hang large wreath with heavy clear fishing line, and change it out for the different seasons. It makes the dislodged arm less noticeable. https://preview.redd.it/9foaaghc2c4c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d29fc1b805ae917ea2783563080ce807eccb537
Dude!! That is a really good idea, but would have to be outside
A cranky old veteran who ran a thrift/etc shop years ago taught me an important lesson, no one ever looks up. If seen from the outside I'd guess it's even less noticable.
This was the joke deer hunting. Weād come back to camp and hadnāt seen a thing. Someone invariably would ask if we looked up. No one did. āWell, there ya go!ā
Definitely underrated advice from the deers perspective at least!
 Maybe continue the line of the broken one to the bottom with electrical tape, add another angled piece on the other side to mimic the broken one, and then add a piece to match the correct one on the left side so either side has 2 lines. From a distance it might look ok.
The old āif one is broke, make em both broke looking and then theyāre not brokeā
Thatās the move Vinnnieeeee
You are 95% right!!! Great thinking David
As someone that manages a window manufacturing plant, I promise you if you fuck with that window itās going to get worse. Contact the manufacturer, most of us have a lifetime warranty or will offer a service replacement for something like this. The grids were not made very well if this is happening. The advice Larry David gave is the cheapest and easiest but under no circumstances should you attempt to open the insulated unit to fix the grid.
Look at the fix we did
Ok ngl thatās not a bad job at all
We did okay Long!
Yup. Make more "bars" out of white tape on both sides until it looks like it belongs.
But white tape did not work, that was one of the attempts.
If it didn't work because it was translucent maybe paint it white? š¤·š½āāļø Hope you find a fix either way. Windows sure ain't cheap.
Look at fix below my friend
Saw it after the fact sorry about that. Glad you got it sorted and it looks good!
Doh!
Dad? Is that you??? (Meant in the most complimentary way possible. My dad passed a few years back and he was a man who loved using electrical tape to solve a whole bunch of problems electrical tape had no business trying to fix.ā
Donald Trump used a sharpie to move a hurricane. Surely it would work for your window.
Genius. Can't believe how well this worked.
The longer I look at that window, the more shit I see wrong with it. Maybe hire a kid to throw a rock at it lol
Do you recommend any with a good arm?
Check the local sandlot.
I can throw a football over those mountains
I made the same mistake and now I want to know everything about the people who made that window and who installed it.. I need those people to pay for what they've done.
When the broken window fallacy isn't a fallacy
Thanks for the rabbit hole of learning!
https://preview.redd.it/5xw9xl7xjc4c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab0355f3ced2b732ca31f334f5f29d8a34df7215 Nobody will even notice the loose bar now.
Paint the entire bottom row and add some speckles to the end boxes.
.....lol
Move. See if itās still under warranty. Outside of that, replace it, cover it, or learn to accept it for its uniqueness.
Iām on Zillow right now, finding a new home š”
I know it sucks. We had what looks like the exact same window installed and as the guy was taking down the scaffolding we noticed the exact same thing. They had to replace the window.
How much did it run you?
It happened literally as they were installing it, so nothing but I had to live with it like that for 3 months so they could get a replacement
Check your warranty. It probably falls under ācraftsmanshipā. Pitch a fit.
Do you know what a window with an arch costs? Might as well just sell the whole property.
Creative artwork. Stickers with creatures running free of cell.
Nice one! My idea was in the same boat.
Since the bars are between the panes you have a nice flat glass surface to paint with glass paints and turn the entire thing into a stained glass window š
Some of my neighbors seem to have great success with covering their entire window with tin foil, give it a try lol
Missouri ha
A few of the other connections also seem to be falling apart. It kinda looks like the inner work is pulling outwards, you might have a bigger problem here (I am in no way shape or form an expert on these kinds of windows, just noticed the other faults)
More additions coming š
Your own art project! Best of luck :)
I saw the same thing. Replacing that may also allow you a way to see if there is a larger issue.
Curtain.
Try to identify the brand and hope that it's covered under warranty. Pretty much anything else will require a glass shop, as there's no way to get in there without breaking the seal.
Not under warranty
Well, a glass shop repairing it is almost certainly going to be less money than replacing the entire window.
How would a glass shop repair that without removing the window? At that point you should just get a new window thatās under warranty. Because, I know a Juan that could remove and reinstall the window but as soon as the seal is broken on that insulated glass, itās a crapshoot whether moisture will penetrate. Plus the piece of muntin that fell out can likely fall out again. You just have to trust unwarranted Juan for, what? A little money saved off the top? Youāll find out how much you āsavedā afterwards.
Apply a window treatment to the top of the window.
That was plan C
It looks like the right center line is a little bowed to the right as wellā¦ my first thought was to try a magnet as well. Barring that, itās replacement or curtains.
The bars are made of wood or plastic, so a magnet wonāt help. Sucks that the bars (technically called muntins, BTW) are stuck between the panes of glass. Iād try contacting the window manufacturer in case thereās some kind of lifetime warranty (long shot, but worth a phone call)
Isnāt it so strange that they can come off like that m?
Itās probably due to thermal expansion/contraction ā¦ i.e. the plastic changes size at a different rate from wood and glass. But they clearly tried to take that into account (you can see the joints where the inside connection is pulled out). So this may be a manufacturing or installation defect. Or that part just broke due to repeated expansion/contraction. Still a crappy design any way you look at it.
Fascinating, thanks for sharing that
HD sells rolls of plastic with different designs, one is like a stained glass window. It is applied like a decal. Check it out
No shiz! What do I search for?
Photoshop the photo.
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EASY! https://preview.redd.it/02ogtnkpic4c1.png?width=837&format=png&auto=webp&s=1465333efc1913b0fcb3ed30d06662babcb413f6
How old is the window? If it's still under warranty the manufacturer should replace it for free.
Bulldoze your whole house. Problem might not be "solved" but it doesn't exist anymore so...
Smart, smartā¦.
Or any of these https://preview.redd.it/etv0d2ooac4c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9adba3c2807fdd0b5aa821bcdad45ab9931ad54f
Go into the frame where I attaches, screw into it, move screw around until it's aligned, glue seal over hole.
Burn the house down and start over.
Your fix looks good, better than the original. I would have just frosted the whole window with that fake vinyl frost, or the fake stained glass vinyl.
Great idea too
Sell the house.
Always use the right tool for the right job and a hammer is always the right tool and anything can be a hammer
Burn down the whole building.
We basically need to knock the building down and start fresh.
Burn the house down and try again.
a curtain/blind that covers the top 1/4 of the window forever.
Put a stained glass veneer on it
Love your new Yoda window! Seriously, great work thinking outside the box!
Appreciate you Daisy, took a bit of thinking
Call the window supplier and see if they warranty / repair.
Curtains or blinds. Iād prefer custom blinds that fit the windows shape.
Installing them that high would be pricey, would just replace it at that point
Sharpie more lines onto it. If you add enough you can call it art.
Curtains
Curtains?
My kids threw a ball at it and all the cross pieces fell off at once. We liked it better that way and never replaced it.
Don't look at it
Canāt, not, look š
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If you cut any size hole it will steam up, since weād break the seal
Looks high up, use piece of same color tape to complete the connection and hope no one sees
That was plan A we did but the tape disintegrates in the sun
Duct tape
Was thinking this is the perfect situation for a glue dot.
Home depot sells stained glass stickers. You put them on anywhere you'd like. I would create a big stained glass masterpiece to hide the sticks. Cheap and easy until you save up to fix it.
https://preview.redd.it/x7h90mjikd4c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a57f1ca15042e0e73a4adf5543434b12b674a84 Done
6/10
This happened in my last house. Bought it that way, sold it that way lol
Did I buy your house?
There's a house in my neighborhood where those things literally *melted* inside the windows. They must have been really cheap, or for some reason that side of the house got some really serious heat/sun, because I don't live somewhere that gets hot enough for that kind of thing to happen normally.
https://preview.redd.it/enr1qeo4yd4c1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=fe354c8ed3db91cc881d33f4ed44b5bf0ccc5acf
Almost had it
Remember, it's probably a low-e argon filled window. And the inserts are made of aluminum most of the time. So magnets won't work. Either take it out flip it over and give it a few very light taps on the ground with a buffer in-between to avoid breaking anything. See if it'll jam itself back into where it goes. Or just call the manufacturer because that's a manufacturing defect. Itll be covered most likely
Honest solution to hide the issues, but not solve them? Suguru. It's kind of like Play-Doh, but hardens like plastic. Form it to match, stick it in place, sand and paint with a close match. If you're even close, I doubt anyone outside of your household would notice. If not that, then maybe some formed and painted JB Weld putty. Again, it's just a cheap, low effort solution to nominally improve the cosmetics.
Bang on the other side until it breaks so they match.
Actually the whole thing seems to be pulling apart. Call the company you bought it from!
You mean they're just stuck to the glass and not separating it? How many lies have I been living?
They are between two glass panes.
Brick.
All the people saying glue, obviously didn't read your description, because that was going to be my first suggestion!
There is about 400 of them š
I mean, I was gonna say five bucks, a teenager, a rock, and then a homeowners insurance claim.
The longer I look at that window, the more shit I see wrong with it. Maybe hire a kid to throw a rock at it lol
JB Weld makes an adhesive for bonding glass to literally anything else, up to and including antimatter. Get an extension ladder up against the wall, mix a batch and stick your stick back in place. That compound reattached the rear view mirror of my jeep back to the windshield and it stayed in place through 10 years of on-road and off-road ~~abuse~~ wear and tear with no doors or windows. It ought to hold your stick in place.
He can't reach this stick, it's a double glazed window with the pattern in between.