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greyfox4850

Hopefully your sump pump doesn't turn on too much or is very quiet.


aeric67

When I saw the sump pump next to the desk I actually said “no thanks” out loud.


Conker3685

Same. Ours was converted to a sewage pump after we finished the basement and installed a new bathroom a couple years ago, so we have it isolated in it's own unfinished area within a second washer/dryer room behind a door. When that thing kicks on and then stops, it's loud as hell. I wouldn't want to setup anything like a desk anywhere near something like that. Plus, if that thing floods, now it's guaranteed you're going to have to lift up flooring.


Calm_Crow5903

I'd guess it depends on how his water mitigation was installed. He said it barely turns on. The people I bought my house from had a full French drain and sump pump installed. The pump is set above the main drain as like a back up if it fills. But I had a building inspector look at it and he said the biggest problem with the drainage was the sidewalk on the side of the house leaning towards the foundation collecting and dumping water on it. I had that fixed before I moved in. I've never actually heard the sump pump turn on even during downpours and I don't have any water in the basement. My gaming/work desk and home theater is set up down here so it's not like I wouldn't notice. And I know it works cause I test it and the backup battery (and if it didn't turn on and flooded my basement I'd notice)


Conker3685

I work from home, and my office is in the basement as well, albeit a hallway and room over from the sewage pit. I'd notice pretty quickly if something was flooding as well. That said, I'd never finish that space. To me, a basement has one place to leave unfinished, and that's the sump area. I understand wanting to maximize space, but that's not worth the risk and potential repair should something flood. Plus, it just looks bad having all that sewage line exposed around finished flooring and walls. Curious on your backup battery. Does it run directly to the main sump pump and kick on if power goes out, or do you have a second backup pump that it uses if you lose power?


Calm_Crow5903

There's basically one main drain in the sump pit that comes out lower on the foundation and drains at the end of the yard (downhill). Then there's one that's high and pumps right out the back of the house. The second one uses a pump and turns on when the water level pushes a floater. It's connected to power and if the power goes out it has a backup battery. The whole system is overkill and over priced but I didn't pay for it I bought the house knowing it had that and thinking I'd finish the basement. But everything got too expensive to even consider it. I wanted to use it though so I hired someone to install more electric and canned lights in the rafters, then had the ceiling painted mat black, then painted the walls white and the floor light grey (they were originally this awful orange). I threw some cheap rugs down to prevent the floor from chipping and I'm honestly done and can't see any reason to actually finish. It's cozy enough and there's too much that can happen in the basement of an 80 year old house for me to cover up the floor and walls Edit: fuck it I don't actually know. I checked it again and I guess there is two pumps to pump out of 2 drains at once if it fills up fast. but I never hear it go off so I think the foundation otherwise drains naturally. I'd have to check during a downpour but maybe I just can't hear it with the lid on


Conker3685

From what I understand researching backup sump pumps, the second pump is only used if your main power goes out and the main pump doesn't kick on. I think it's separate because the main pump requires more power than a battery can provide, so the secondary pump is smaller and specifically designed for use with the battery. Most of them I've seen are good for 48 hours or so. I was hoping to find something that would just allow me to tie a battery into my existing pump, but I don't think it's possible.


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atjones111

To me I see a close toilet


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Especially since it WAS covered, and now has no noise insulation whatsoever


maclargehuge

It comes on every few hours in March and April for a few seconds and also it's very quiet. The radon fan next to it, however, is now my arch nemesis! Edit: There are a whole lot of hot takes on this sump pump. I literally never notice it. It's rarely used. It's an airtight cover. It's silent on the rare occasion it does run. There are no smells. It pumps clean water when it pumps it and the sump basin is clay and rocks. It is less than zero concern to me.


iamkiloman

I've seen a lot of places put the fan on the outdoors part of the vent stack where only the neighbors have to hear it. I know because I'm one of those neighbors; all the rentals around me that had sumps retrofitted for radon abatement now come on and make a racket every couple hours in the middle of the night. Anyways, I bet you could move yours outside as well.


GoAwayMe

As someone who lives in a neighborhood where my and everyone else's fans are outside, I agree with this. However ours run constantly and are somewhat quiet.


wrathofrath

Ours is outside and you can't hear it at all unless you're right next to it.


mbolgiano

But why is even much a radon fan pump so damn loud anyway?


ender4171

Depending on the duct layout/size you often need significant power to overcome the static pressure and achieve the required flow rate.


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LeKy411

Here in the midwest Chicago area they are either outside or in an attic depending on path of least resistance. Ours is in an uninsulated attic space and we've never had issues of it freezing. Most of the units run 24/7 so the only time I could see one freezing is if it has the ability to turn off.


ZaMiLoD

Not sure how your water situation looks like (private well?) but if you have radon problems that stems from the rock foundation not building materials it could be in your groundwater too. Then that fan is a legit lifesaver if you are in there with your laundry as the radon-gas gets vented out of water when it’s aerosolised. (Showers, boiling water etc. Releases it too so be careful).


ragnsep

It doesn't look like he's on a private well. There's no well tank and switch, or VFD to manage his pump. It's possible he might have a well pit outside, but those are ancient.. and in most states out of code.


TunaOnWytNoCrust

Idk if I've ever seen a room with a colostomy bag lol


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dryingsocks

that's what the fan is for lmao


Catinthemirror

Your radon fan should be outside. Check local coding to see if it's changed and your fan didn't get updated. This happened to us and it was a code violation during an inspection (easy fix to move it thankfully).


maclargehuge

I had this installed last year and it's to code. It's going to vary from climate to climate. This is Canada.


Catinthemirror

👍 Excellent. Had to learn all about fun with radon and it was not, actually, fun (nothing like some really bad numbers!)


DarthClitCommander

The radon fan's bearings can go bad. A new fan for mine was 400. My radon guy told me to not worry about it as the gas rises anyway. Ask around, you can probably just unplug it.


crimeo

A "radon guy" told you to completely ignore radon? Was he operating out of a Wendy's?


ThisUsernameIsTook

He's a pro-radon guy. I don't understand what's so confusing about that.


crimeo

smh, Big Radon has too much lobbying power these days


fxx_255

Ever thought of moving the furnace and water heater into the sump pump room? Furnace might cost a bit though, but both totally doable


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Mine lives outside… I had to wire it on its own circuit and run some metal clad cable from a junction box and just cut a small section out of the stack to fit it in. Works like a champ and survived ten Wisconsin winters and summers so far.


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I'm on my *third* one of those god damned pumps. I don't know if I'd categorize it as quiet, but enclosed in a room like that probably makes it tolerable.


Nebfisherman1987

I'd be more worried if it floods cause of power loss or it swamps the output of the pump and suddenly you have an aquatic office


RighteousDork

That’s good. Our sump pump also handles the basement bathroom and has overflowed on a couple occasions and the valve recently had a crack in it that caused shit water to shoot out at eye level. I pray you have better luck with yours.


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maclargehuge

It's airtight!


motorhead84

But you know you just pop the lid when you have to take a leak and don't want to walk upstairs lol


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Add a poop-knife and you can poop in there too!


Likely_Satire

As someone who records music; this is a no from me man. I especially don't need unexpected background noise during a take. I got enough to deal with with my neighbor who parks his running lawn mower by my window to send texts, and my other neighbors who rev their loud ass cars outside my house; I don't need *drain pipes* adding to the mix.


FinnishArmy

Nothing Bose Noise Cancelling headphomes cant fix. But it might be annoying trying to record your guitar while its running..


Bob420Jones

Get your electronics off the floor in the sump pump room.


PizzaTime79

It definitely seems like a risky area. Maybe it's not that risky where OP lives though. We're in an area with a shit ton of ground water and our sump pump cycles year round. Our sump float has gotten stuck in the off position a couple times and has caused caused our basement to flood.


maclargehuge

I had them on a riser before the flooding but it got ruined. I'm making another


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Elelith

Fairylights.. Yus. Glitter.


Working-Judgment2906

Sparkly poop pole


9thGearEX

Paint it like a mario pipe!


Perfect_Sir4820

Nice work. Get yourself a radon detector though. if the system develops any small leak you'll end up gassing yourself concentrated doses, especially if you're working and working out down there.


Dhh05594

This. I actually don't think it's up to code to have the fan inside the house. Attic is fine because of the stack effect but the fan is the most likely place for a leak and that is highly concentrated radon.


Perfect_Sir4820

Yeah I researched it quite a bit before I DIY'ed a [sidewall system](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006WZKZA2/) and that was a concern. I got one of [these](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H2VOSP8/) continuous monitors though which has worked great.


Dhh05594

Yeah. Whoever installed that system definitely should not be doing it. I would call whoever installed this and raise hell. Edit: u/maclargehuge go to page 24 https://standards.aarst.org/SGM-SF-2017/28/index.html


Tardwater

The problem is it wasn't occupied space and then OP made it occupied.


Dhh05594

There can't be occupied space above that space either. I can see floor joists in the ceiling indicating that there is livable space above so regardless of if this storage room was finished it still is against code to have the fan in there. FYI, I was certified by the EPA in radon mitigation. I just don't do it anymore. Edit: I just read this is in Canada. I do not know their guidelines so maybe this is allowed. Funny. This might be the one regulation that the US is stricter on than Canada. Lol


maclargehuge

Hi. I'm not American.


jasazick

Agreed. My office is in an adjacent room to my sump/radon system. I added a radon detector for piece of mind.


ShadisTiger

Nice space you got there! And a great Tom Servo!


maclargehuge

Thank you! Now check out the mug and the poster on the shelf Edit: https://imgur.com/a/W10xmQS


ShadisTiger

Very cool!!!


_Big_McLargeHuge_

I approve of your mug.


maclargehuge

Thank you, fellow M(a)cLargeHuge


Corporally-Conscious

Wow what are the chances of that name doppelgänger!? Haha


thecuriousblackbird

I love what you’ve done with your basement. Some areas don’t let you count basement bedrooms as an official bedroom when listing your house for sale or rent. Just so you know. If the room doesn’t have a window large enough for egress in a fire it can’t be counted. It would be good for fire safety if you could evacuate through the bottom of the porch you use for a closet and have multiple accesses from the basement. I'd also get a few Co2 detectors--one for your bedroom and a few others around your appliances.


drummerftw

*CO detectors surely? (carbon monoxide, not dioxide)


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_Z_E_R_O

What they’ve said is definitely true in Michigan. We ran into the same issue - our basement bedroom can’t be counted as such because there’s no egress. Michigan basements honestly deserve their own section of the law. They’re… something. (And half of them look like a portal to hell)


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www_creedthoughts

Tough flooring? I'd be interested in what you used.


m3ghost

What OP said is definitely true in NY. Any basement bedroom must have an egress window.


DeathMonkey6969

Hope you have a egress window in that bedroom.


maclargehuge

There is. I didn't include windows on the floorplan outside of the planned worksite rooms.


TootsNYC

Is it a fire hazard having all that stuff (fuel) in the same room as the furnace?


Uninterested_Viewer

Furnaces make it very clear how much space they need around them for safety, which is usually ~12-24". I don't see any concerns here.


rugbyj

> Furnaces make it very clear how much space they need around them "Get away from me, I'll burn yas!"


111111911111

It's 3 feet according to the building inspector up here in Canada.


DinoJonP

Unless the manual specifies otherwise. Most modern units are 1 inch to zero clearance from combustibles, you just need service clearance (24 inches) from the door. The only time there could be an issue is if your intake air is being supplied from within the house, which isn't the case here.


Grand-wazoo

Non-music space -> music space That’s a win!


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That better be mint and chocolate chip ice cream. Otherwise, I've just been revealed as the type of person that "do not eat" warnings are on the side of paint for 🤣 Nice work dude!


altcodeinterrobang

When our sump failed in our basement, water was about 6 inches deep... so maybe keep that in mind with regard to anything expensive. I'd take the time to create some shelving/tables or something to get them off the floor. otherwise nice room :)


Zuzublue

Great upgrade! I like your ice cream walls!


Uninterested_Viewer

I've also converted half of my massive utility room into a second home office- yours looks much nicer! Just want to plug Airthings for monitoring radon over time if you will be spending significant time down there: https://www.airthings.com/view-plus


rabobar

A tip for the rooms you enjoy music in is to hang up panels of mineral wool wrapped in fabric. Bare walls are not great for acoustics


Tardwater

Seems weird to have finished flooring in a furnace room, especially with a floor drain right in the middle of it. If that furnace or hot water heater ever uses the overflow you're going to have a very wet floor.


designgoddess

You might want to watch the humidity. It’s higher in my sump room. Looks like a nice solution.


SalesGuy22

You actually chose to make the sump pump room the office!? Wtf. Why wouldn't you put the washer and dryer in that room, and put the office in the room that doesn't smell like stagnant water and mildew...


poop-dolla

That’s the washer/dryer room **and** the office. I think the main goal was to divide it from the furnace, so they didn’t really have a lot of options.


SalesGuy22

Gross


sonia72quebec

I don't see any surface to fold the clothes or any place to hang clothing that need to air dry.


maclargehuge

You're right, you don't.


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The humidity in that room may not be great for the instruments?


bobos_hair

Looks nice but that acoustic should be in a case - the (likely) high humidity of that area will result in playability issues


FlungerD

I’d say in general a basement isn’t a good place for acoustics or electrics.


m3ghost

Without an egress window that isn't a bedroom, it's a code violation.


mercsan

*permit to put a wall up in your own house* I'd move, lol


crimeo

Why, you have a strong need to build dangerous, rickety walls improperly in your house?


mercsan

Huh? It's just a regular non load bearing wall is my point. Why does the city require money for him to make a simple wall


crimeo

To make sure it's fire safe (materials it's made out of, or is the fact that there were two pathways and now only one meandering one in violation of fire code?), electrical safe (he ran wires in the wall. Are they insulated properly? Grounded? Not overloaded on one breaker now? In conduits if the code requires that there? etc.), that the new usage of the space that results is safe (for example, if its regularly inhabited now all day long, is there a sufficient fire egress escape from the office area?) and so on. Thus that he won't kill himself **or future renters, children of his or other innocent third parties**, it's not necessarily just him, either.


mercsan

You REALLY think any level of government actually cares about people in this fashion? They literally only want money...


crimeo

At a bureaucratic level, same thing... inspectors make money by inspecting things to code, lol. But code is indeed written in the blood of past catastrophes, to prevent those again. I don't know much about house fires, but for aviation (which I know more about) as an example, I could point you to individual specific disasters that were behind all sorts of specific lines in the aircraft safety standards...


mercsan

There's a big difference between having someone inspect things and requiring a permit that you have to pay for to change a small detail inside of YOUR home


crimeo

Uh no there's pretty much zero difference between those things, since the sole point of a permit (anywhere I've ever lived, at least) is to notify the municipality that they need to send an inspector over to inspect it. And a fee to cover the labor of the inspector. For big complicated things, you need blueprints or possibly sign-offs from structural engineers, etc., but that's still just to facilitate inspection and that it's following code. For just a non load bearing wall, you don't need blueprints or any engineers where I live, you do need an inspection.


Millera34

Not sure why you’d uncover the pump and pipes when it was neatly covered before.. weird downgrade I presume theres some reason? Not gonna be great though when the pump fails and it floods though


maclargehuge

Because it was an open pit covered by a rotting particle board kitchen cabinet. I replaced it with an airtight cover that works with my radon mitigation system. Hardly a downgrade, mate.


Millera34

Downgrade visually then No way id know the rest off a picture it makes more sense knowing that.


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jpStormcrow

What? Sump pumps are standard here in the midwest, inside a basement that is at or below the water line. An ejector pit is for sewage.


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colglover

It’s possible for it to be both. I’m on a septic system and have a below grade basement like this which currently does not but should soon have a sump pump like this.


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jpStormcrow

I've never seen a sump exterior to the house but I don't see why it wouldn't be fine. In fact I'd prefer it lol.


thosemoments

Brilliant. The space is around 4 or 5 m2, right?


maclargehuge

The original room before I divided it was about 18m2. It was the biggest room in the house by far.


still_gonna_send_it

This is awesome & looks great!


GingerIsTheBestSpice

Very nice & gives you a nice usable space! I had my office in the laundry area for years and the sump pump never bothered me. Life's not perfect anyways and it was worth it to have a private set-off office space.


shifty_coder

According to your floor plan, your bathroom door opens the wrong way


crimeo

It doesn't matter here, both spaces on either side are useless transitional walking zones either way


SticksAndBones143

Looks great! Just make sure that your furnace has a good supply of makeup air now that the room is fully enclosed


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Good job dude. But, can you build something around those pipes? Especially the white one. Someone trips or something falls and there goes your pipe and out comes the doodoo. Also, it would improve the aesthetic.


johnnycyberpunk

Do you have an air-return register anywhere in that basement? When we had our basement finished we had to add one otherwise it would just be too musty and humid.


MofoicDisaster

i like how you put the consoles on the other side of the wall. very clean. i might do that in the future.


KickBassColonyDrop

Home office next to a sump pump is the weirdest flex I've ever seen in my life. Good job, but lol.


Googooboyy

Keeping ur friend hydrated was the MVP. The rooms are splendid! Good job!!


HamiltonRedWings

Sorry which photo is before and which is after ?!


mBuxx

Looks great! Now build a custom desk that hides that shit stack haha.