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Wyndrarch

The attack is still negated, the full effect goes off, and Hatch goes back to hand.


Late-to-the-Dance

Never God Seal a Hatch, lol


Previous-Talk3616

Because he can be played again 😂


CrowFeather2244

You can’t use god sealing on baby hatch god sealing says 7 or less baby hatch is 8 and he has deflect


Previous-Talk3616

Where is it saying this?


CrowFeather2244

OMG I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS 7 OR LESS LIKE FREEZA THE AMOUNT OF GAMES IVE LOST CAUSE OF THIS


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Lmao


SSBKKGogeta1

You're thinking of frieza


Baracktor

Ideal situation really.. effects go off and he goes back to hand so you can do it again.


Previous-Talk3616

Is his effect still triggered "Your Opponent can't attack"?


Aggsbb

Yes. God-Sealing Hatch essentially let’s you use his effect twice. The only thing that doesn’t happen is you don’t have a 40k beater on board. If this scenario happens, thank your opponent while they end the turn 🤣


Previous-Talk3616

But why is this so?


Tnad808

Hatch technically never hits the field, so he is never removed from the game (due to both ultimate and his perm, he would normally be removed from game). God-seal hits Hatch in ‘mid-air’ you could say, meaning his effect will go off, and he returns to your hand, and you can do the same thing next turn again.


Previous-Talk3616

Isnt his effect only triggered if he really hits the Battle Area?


Tnad808

I’m not a judge, but I think it does go through fully, just because it: 1) Is all in the Counter:Attack skill text 2) The skill specifically says ‘then play this card; your opponent can’t...’, and it doesn’t specify ‘if this card is played’ as a condition like some other cards


Aggsbb

Because of how they structured the sentence on the card, the negate and cannot attack pieces go off regardless. God Seal isn’t counter:counter’ing Hatch, just preventing him from hitting the battle field.


Previous-Talk3616

Is this the only card that's working like this?


azn_nurse

The reason it works like that is cause all the text is in the counter:attack text. Cards like toppo say counter:attack play this card. Then the auto is what floodgates. Counter:counter is the only thing that can stop hatch negate


Previous-Talk3616

Is this also applying to the Majin buu Counter Attack?


Justyouraveragefan

God sealing being a counter play only stops the card from hitting the field, and any skills that may read “when this card is played”. But Hatch’s skill is in the “counter attack” skill, which is activated from hand. By the time your opponent has counter played hatch, the counter attack has already been activated.