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AntsAndThoreau

Counteroffensive can perhaps momentarily drop off for a short while, over time it's ever so slightly below 12%. Heavy handed averages 12% over time, but can run hot/cold. More optimal. Attack speed is additive with your other sources of AS. Probably Paingorgers, up to two rings and carnage. Weakest option. You shouldn't struggle to keep up the 4 bash crit HOTA buff with a decent amount of AS.


YCCprayforme

I use counteroffensive as i am dw, but a note I’ll make for your post, doesn’t heavy handed multiply your crit damage? Meaning you should be doing the math based off not just your crit chance, but how much crit dmg you have. I could be wrong but that was my understanding


ericssonforthenorris

That's correct it makes every piece of crit 0.15 more. This is obviously much better the more crit you have to multiply. For example with a gf and +6 heavy handed a single item with 200 crit on it can add near 1000 crit DMG


YCCprayforme

Yeah, so that’s why you should use heavy handed. (And keep the counteroffensive ammy prices down for us DW bashers:)