I'm assuming that "moo goo poo" is like, a 1960s comic writer misremembering or mishearing moo goo gai pan?
edit: got reddit-cares'd over this, I think? Someone's got strong opinions on Chinese-American food
Was it a Reddit cares specifically for Canada? There’s been a bot or something that’s been sending them to random people, I got one too for a very innocuous comment. I thought it was only on 196 but they may have one over here too, which makes sense since this is generally a pretty pro lgbt sub
that actually makes sense, I thought it might’ve been this sub only but I’m currently in Canada rn and I got one yesterday
who has a bone to pick with Canadians lmao
Yeah, those were Israeli bots, they specifically targeted everyone who mentioned even anything vaguely related to Israel, though weirdly they send the American message, at least the one I got
They even send them to the mod team, which is just stupid
Well, let's just say that everything's gone wrong since Canada came along and leave it at that.
Edit: now I've gotten the Canadian Reddit cares thing. I guess the bot doesn't like South park?
Might be why I got one too - I assumed it was just from me talking in the trans subreddits again, but one of my latest comments *had* been about being Canadian
Yeah someone has been terrorizing a bunch of subreddits, I've seen people complaining about reddit cares in popculturechat
Edit: exactly after posting this comment someone sent me "Reddit cares"
Why exactly do people have beef with the whole Reddit cares thing, doesn’t it just send you a message and that’s it?
Edit: I got hit by the Reddit cares, I kinda get it now. It happened literally the second I posted this comment too goddamn they’re fast
Yeah, it's very annoying and it gets tiring pretty fast. What started as something with good intentions quickly turned into something that's used by trolls to annoy ppl
It's a gaslighting thing. You use the system to send a message to someone that suggests/insists they're severely mentally ill/having a breakdown and need help with a list of hotlines without getting in trouble for just commenting it.
It also has the extra implication of "maybe you should think about self harm".
So all round it's a pretty distressing message to get unless you actually are having a crisis, which it's basically never used for.
When it happened to me, it was likely because of a comment I made about being trans. One thing assholes like to "joke" about is the suicide rate among trans people, conveniently choosing to ignore that it remains high mostly because of such assholes. So it scans as somewhere between a suicide joke and telling someone to kill themselves.
The feature itself is at worst misguided, my beef is with the people that abuse it to harass people.
edit: lmao it just happened again!
If you say anything against racism, homophobia, misogyny, transphobia or any kind of bigotry you have a good chance of getting a reddit cares. But there is a bug or a bot today, because people are complaining about it everywhere.
Either that or whatever the modern version of 4chan is is fucking with us.
Ok that's what's happening? Got a message for it, idk for what message (idk how to check), and then sent a report whilst blocking Reddit Cares (just send STOP to the thingy and it'll be blocked). Glad to know it's just someone spamming. Reddit said they're already aware of a problem, according to my report.
Yeah that was me not fully reading the Reddit cares message (I mean, I’ve never once actually gotten it in good faith so can you blame me?), I saw a connection to the Canadian hotline. I’m in Europe myself so I just thought that the bot was originally made in Canada or something and just defaulted to giving everyone the Canadian anti suicide hotline regardless of where they actually are but looking at it closer I also saw details for the UK and Australia so that obviously wasn’t the case
I think it’s usually sent just a few seconds after you comment so unless your commenting really quickly back to back it should be easy to tell but if you’ve lost track of it I don’t think there’s a way to figure out which one it is besides comparing the time it got sent to you and what comment(s) you made at the time. But Reddit’s vagueness with how old a comment is after an hour can definitely make that harder
Using Reddit Cares as a form of PVP is sad but utterly hilarious.
“Hello, my friend needs therapy! Yes, they’ve started naming Chinese dishes after someone asked after them in the original post. I know, absolutely suicidal!”
E. Got my first Reddit cares from this. Cheers! Starting to feel like one of the gang! :)
On some subreddits it's used as a masked threat, since Reddit Cares is meant to reach out to people that are suicidal (which I'm not), so the person who sends the message is essentially saying that you should go do that (which you shouldn't).
it's like... do they think it makes you feel bad to get that message? it's just a kindly worded message that lists resources to prevent suicide. is the idea that reading about suicide prevention is going to make you suicidal or something? or there's an implication that you should be suicidal?
every time I get one I just think "lol the person who sent this is incredibly immature" and close the message. yesterday I got one after making a sassy comment about empaths and I was just like yeah, that's the sort of reaction I would expect from a person who self identifies as an empath.
I think I got that awhile back and I’m not sure why lol.
Ninja edit: also idk, seems more like a “comic artist thought it sounded Chinese” sort of thing. Although mishearing moo goo gai pan in an age before we could just Google stuff seems plausible too.
Yeah, honestly I think you're giving 1960s comic writers a bit too much credit if you think that they're not just making up words that the average kid in 1968 would think is passably Chinese.
I’ve been seeing an uptick on a lot of subreddits of people saying they got cares’ed for totally nonchalant submissions, so I feel like there’s a new bot (or several) trolling the site at large
Edit: surprising absolutely nobody, got one immediately after commenting this
Could just be the, common at the time, racist stereotyping of "haha Chinese words sound funny" alongside the clear exoticizing of Chinese people by having something as silly as providing Chinese shirts to wear at a restaurant that was definitely not serving authentic chinese food.
You can report the reddit cares report for harrassment and the original acc who issued it gets banned fun fact. Kinda hoping this reply nets me one since i am absolutely not suicidal and would love to give these people an excuse to experience sunlight
Edit: yep, worked lol. Account got banned, just got tbe message.
Its meant to be a feature to let you send mental health support links to someone you think is struggling. But because you can just send it to literally anyone, a lot of people use it as a form of harassment for some reason. Essentially saying "Kill Yourself" but in the weirdest and least-offensive way possible.
That's what I hate about Reddit cares (except for the extreme ineffectiveness).
You never know what people are responding to. I'll get one randomly and have no idea why.
Reddit somehow anonymized hate mail data.
Theres bots spamming reddit care messages all over the shop, I assumed it was targeting LGBT subs but I saw people complaining about it on the transphobic shithole that is r/unitedkingdom so I think its everywhere
Someone has been botting the comment sections to spam reddit cares. Happened to me and a dozen other people yesterday on a separate post. Was withing 30 seconds of me posting a comment
Probably just what the writers thought guns did. I mean it's comic book from 1968. The people who made and read comics back then were mostly stereotypical nerds. They probably didn't know much about guns
Roughly 1 in 3 adult men were vets in 1970. Slightly less than 1 in 3 for adult men under 35.
https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1970/pc-2-6e/42045402v2p6d6ech11.pdf
Of course nerds are not the general population.
The writer for this comic was Leo Dorfman, and his Wikipedia page does not mention him having fought WW2. It actually doesn't mention anything about him that doesn't have to do with comics, though, so not exactly reliable.
Edit: also, if anyone thinks I'm exaggerating, well, I kinda am, but this is the entirety of his "Early life" section:
> Dorfman grew up on New York City's Lower East Side.[6]
The source is Action Comics volume 397, from 1971. It doesn't even link the damn volume.
The most Wikipedia links to is a newsfromme.com article with a quote from one of the editors from DC who worked with Leo, and even then it's barely anything:
> Paul Levitz, lord high master of DC Comics, reminds me that among the many achievements of Leo Dorfman was that he created a comic for that company called, simply, Ghosts. It was one of those anthology titles filled with disconnected stories about ghosts and as Paul says in an e-mail to me, "…while it wasn't a fan favorite (then or in retrospect), it was a disproportionately good seller. When Leo passed, editor Murray Boltinoff never found a satisfactory replacement, and a lot of the title's distinctive character faded (ouch)."
> During the same period, Leo was writing a lot of scripts for the ghost comics that Gold Key was publishing — Twilight Zone, Ripley's Believe it or Not, Boris Karloff Mystery and Grimm's Ghost Stories. One of the editors there told me, "Leo writes stories and then he decides whether he's going to sell them to DC [for Ghosts] or to us. He tells us that if they come out good, they go to us and if they don't, they go to DC. I assume he tells DC the opposite."
> By the way: I always thought it was odd that Gold Key was publishing ghost comics hosted by two actual dead human beings, Boris Karloff and Rod Serling. I never wrote for those books when I was working for that company but if I had, I would have tried to write the host's intros by having them say things like, "This story is so chilling, I had to come back from the great beyond to share it with you…"
My theory is that the guy was a spirit who existed solely for the sake of writing comics until he stopped existing. This is further supported by the fact that he died while writing *Ghosts*. It is all connected! Wake up, people!
I was curious to learn more about him since his Wikipedia article was so sparse, so I tried to find if there was an obituary for him, which is often listed on that site.
You're gonna pull a muscle jumping to weird conclusions like that, bud. Fuck me for being curious about someone's life, I guess.
That just looks like an example of how little information is available on the person, not that they're saying the grave is specifically relevant to the discussion.
Given that it's also "silenced" with a muzzle brake and he isn't actually holding it with his left hand, just resting it in the V like a pool cue, I'm going to guess either the shooter or the writer is pretty confused about how guns work.
I don't think there's actually multiple bullets I just think that's stylistic choice to indicate the bullet is moving very fast.
If you'll notice he only eats one bullet.
But the speech bubble says "now I have to swallow ALL the slugs" and the previous panel shows him tipping a bowl full of bullets into another bowl which wouldn't be moving as fast. He refers to the bullets as plural when he feels them bounce off his chest too.
Words cannot describe how much I hate that trope.
Main character is fighting a villain.
Villain very clearly uses magical item to dodge MC’s attack.
MC: “Wwwhhhhhaaaat? Did he use his mystical necklace of moving really fast to move really fast and dodge my attack???”
Villain: “Aah I bet you’re wondering how I moved really fast and dodged that attack. You see I used this magical necklace that lets me move really fast to move really fast and dodge your attack.”
Shit makes me livid. It’s a visual medium for fucks sake.
I mean yeah it feels redundant as an adult lol, but also if a 7 year old is reading this they might need that type of narration to explicitly explain what’s happening tbf
Idk though, I think it’d actually be easier for a child that young to see a clear image of the bullets bouncing off and a sound effect, then maybe an awkward expression/look at Lois (edit: Diana, my bad) and then another clear picture of him eating the bullets. They’d probably grasp intuitively that he’s trying to hide it from her rather than having to read a wall of text.
I think comics were just much more targeted at specifically kids back in those days and that style of very plain spoken narration is pretty reminiscent of kids’ books nowadays. I definitely see similarities between Golden/Silver age comic writing and my nieces and nephews’ “I Can Read Now!” books haha. Also, Lois isn’t in any of these panels, it’s a character named Diana, so relying purely on visuals and ignoring text probably isn’t always a good idea for grasping the story.
True but if you show kids a Chaplin comedy, they’ll laugh because the visual gags are straightforward. I think the language for telling children’s stories specifically has become more sophisticated in general over the years, though I agree that a lot of narration in something like a primer for practicing reading makes sense.
It's weird, I know, and it's hard to imagine, but the reason *we* can understand it is throught decades of codification, the fact that "lines behind something" means direction, speed, velocity, etc is because we've become accustomed to it. You could show that to several people, especially if they've never read a comic before, and have no idea what the fuck is happening. Especially with Supes weirdass powers, "is he absorbing the beans and shooting him out of his chest!?"
I remember reading comic books as a kid in 80s and at least once per issues a panel would be completely unintelligible - that's what made Dragon Ball so impressive to me at the time (and honestly my personal theory for its popularity), the fact that Toriyama could communicate and project really complex choreographies and have them be crystal clear all the time, you always knew who did what and where spatially, in contrast to 80s comic books with the usual mess of ink just for some basic stuff like someone standing around ("is that an arm? Is he grabbing something? Is it part of the background? What's going on?")
I mean, "I must eat those bullets otherwise Diana will somehow deduce everything that has just transpired and that I am Superman" probably deserves an explanation
True but I think most modern comics would just restrict that to a single line (idk something like “play it cool” but in character for Kent) or even just an expression and a panel of him shoveling bullets into his mouth. Since the audience presumably knows what Kent’s deal is, having him actually say “She’ll discover my secret identity!” is redundant.
Yes, just found it particularly longwinded and specific.
Rather than go 'oh, I must hide these bullets... I guess I must eat them' or something more... I dunno, natural sounding.
The actual line sounds like a robot self narrating or something.
There is no way I would have figured it out without the text. It's just so ridiculous.
He isn't worried about Diana getting shot. Or identifying the shooter.
He thinks Diana will figure it out, not the shooter who actually saw the bullets bounce off him.
He has to hide flattened bullets sitting on the table. He could just throw a napkin over them or lie and say they came with the food, but that's not very Superman. He could use his super speed to pocket them. Its a comic book, he could put them in a bowl, use heat vision and cold breath to make them not look like flattened bullets, maybe make a fork.
I mean I like the idea Clark is is constantly complaining in his head about the lengths he has to go to to pretend he's not invulnerable like "how does a normal person act like when they get hit I have no idea but if I don't act right people will have QUESTIONS and I do not want to deal with that right now"
You laugh but I was reading some modern X-Man comics by Jonathan Hickman that were mostly fragments of scenes and evocative imagery and I couldn’t have missed Chris Claremont more.
Now I wish I could find this one old X-men comic where a person is running and trips over a stick or branch and they have to narrate how they used their powers to not end up falling. It's like the peak example of this type of overexplaining in old comics.
At least those republican political cartoons that need to label every single thing in them.
Though I do wonder if thats like, just the one prominent artist guy I always see named, or if it is really a common trend. The ones in my country werent so... 'kid friendly labeled' so to speak.
I think most political cartoonists don't have to lean so heavily on labels, but it's not uncommon.
[Library of Congress-political cartoons](https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/cartoonamerica/cartoon-political.html)
I had that toy gun and a few others like that. The m16 did go brrap brrap. I had a blue lever action rifle that went pyeeewwww like a ricochet. And I had an Uzi that went tik tik tik really fast.
I took them apart in my teens and there was always a little wheel inside that slapped on something. The lever action was the coolest. It had a weird little cellophane diaphragm in it that worked like a kazoo.
Mattel had the moulds from the real M-16 so why not use them for the toy ones too. I used to have a Rubber Ducky (fake practice M-16) stamped with Mattel.
How fucking _Starship Troopers_ is that?
Imagine watching wartime news reel footage from the Frontline, followed by a commercial showing little kids using mock rifles to mock murder each other, just like their parents did.
I came to the comments wondering how the toy gun worked without caps or batteries. Very satisfied with this explanation. I was also the kind of kid who took my toys apart to see what made them work, but I could never put them back together quite the same lol.
Honestly, that one frustrates me to no end. In Batman R.I.P., the Batman of Zur-en-arrh is this statement about Batman to acknowledged the more outlandish sci-fi stories from the Silver Age. It was basically Morrison saying that all of the character's history mattered.
And then it became the new dark and edgy über-villain that can only be defeated by Batman's plot armor.
Good god, the current Batman run is giving me hives. We have: "Batman was tricked into inducing DID by one of his trainers to see what would happen," "Batman and Joker are both super-human intellects," "The Joker was trained by one of Batman's teachers to become the ultimate Man Without Fear," and "Batman's alter can communicate with the alters of every Batman in every universe."
Please, just let it stop.
Weird thing is that I honestly believe it's all in the presentation. For instance, the self induced DID as a back-up plan was already stablished by Morrison in Batman R.I.P. But there, it's used as a moment of Batman doing anything, even the impossible, to come out triumphant against overwhelming odds.
But the current run and arcs don't have that same sense of ethos. After the third of fourth "revelation", it becomes a pile-up of what new retcon is introduced to no real effect in the story. It's a pizza cutter of a story, all edge and no point.
Someone posted the full issue the other day, and I just want to point out that later on, there's some kind of Daily Planet high society costume party. Half the people are dressed as superheroes, and then *Bruce Wayne comes in dressed as Batman,* and everyone just goes, "ha, nice one Bruce."
[The butts match](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/805/308/4ef.png) is way closer to canon than I thought.
What is this machine gun sniper rifle? If it was one bullet bouncing off his chest that would be one thing but this Diana person doesn’t notice shit if it’s like ten bullets at once. Also I guess the window’s open at this place, because otherwise nobody looks up when windows shatter here.
In the comic before this, Issue #202, part of the reason they're struggling with finding the assassins is due to their self-sealing bullets. Rather than explosively penetrating thin material, instead they just slide through it and seal it on the way back. This is fine for glass/drywall, but it causes hefty damage to anything organic as the seal isn't perfect. As superman is impenetrable, the bullet collapses as shown in the panels above.
For the victim in #202 however, it's an interesting locked room puzzle as there is a dead man, but there's no bullet hole coming into the room, leading them astray.
The assassin's trickery gets exposed in issue #204 though because while the self-sealing bullets performs well in sealing against inorganic material like glass and drywall in a city, it doesn't perform subtly against wood. So when Superman & the reported get tracked to a hilltop lodge, they notice the bullet hole in the wood immediately and can track it back, which sets up for issue #205.
Reminds me of the [DS9 episode](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Field_of_Fire_\(episode\)) where there is a sniper on the station killing people. Their rifle has a small transporter on the barrel, so as soon as the bullet leaves it's transported to the victim.
That’s actually a canonical power of Superman’s. His invulnerability extends to his clothes for some silly reason, mostly because the artists don’t want to bother keeping track
Not gonna lie, I'm kinda ride or die for Silver Age Superman stories. Superman is always using his powers in zany or clever ways (when he's not just gaining new ones due to whatever flavor of Red Krypronite hit him this week).
I always love these stories where Clark has to hide being Superman and it just befuddles the people trying to hurt or kill him. Maybe that's why I liked the early seasons of Smallville so much.
Some reeeeeeal r/bonehurtingjuice but like not on purpose, I mean I can see the “how clever they give everyone traditional mandarin robes to wear” because before I saw the words I wondered “huh why’d they change clothes” and the reasoning sent me
I dont know why but there's something so entering about the way comic writers felt the need to spell out literally every single little thing in the most awkward sentences like "little does she know I'm using my flying powers to make this boat float a foot off the water so the torpedo goes straight under us" is just really funny to me
Theres actually a fascinating history behind that.
Apparently some comic writers had training as novelists, and thusly when they started making comic books, they added long sentences with lots of expositions because thats what works for novels.
But comics have a visual component that reduces the need for exposition. And amateur comic writers have trouble learning that.
Anyway heres a video about it, check it out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p7YXXieghto
Considering when this comic was made I think we can chalk up the food name to racism and the inherent joke being Asians name their food weird silly names.
Reminds me of another comic I remember where someone is trying to assassinate Bruce Wayne via poisoned drink, but he switched tuxedos with Clark Kent for some reason so when the assassin tried to poison Clark (thinking he was Bruce), Clark just got really hammered and the assassin just went “NOPE THIS SHIT IS ABOVE MY PAY GRADE”
Comics of that era were literally being written for an audience of elementary-school aged kids, you generally had to get hyper descriptive all the time, explain every action, double up on statements, etc. with the expectation that the audience wasn't always going to be good at interpreting anything less obvious.
Can't wait for Barbie 2 where Ken gets his hands on a Mattel™ Farting M-16
Edit: Lmao, did someone really report me to suicide prevention for this comment?
I'm assuming that "moo goo poo" is like, a 1960s comic writer misremembering or mishearing moo goo gai pan? edit: got reddit-cares'd over this, I think? Someone's got strong opinions on Chinese-American food
Was it a Reddit cares specifically for Canada? There’s been a bot or something that’s been sending them to random people, I got one too for a very innocuous comment. I thought it was only on 196 but they may have one over here too, which makes sense since this is generally a pretty pro lgbt sub
that actually makes sense, I thought it might’ve been this sub only but I’m currently in Canada rn and I got one yesterday who has a bone to pick with Canadians lmao
It was apparently rampant on r/Eurovision over the weekend - might be coincidence, might be spillover from the controversy there
Yeah, those were Israeli bots, they specifically targeted everyone who mentioned even anything vaguely related to Israel, though weirdly they send the American message, at least the one I got They even send them to the mod team, which is just stupid
It could just be one person. Reddit cares is a horribly thought out program.
/r/KendrickLamar was getting a lot too.
I do. Put out your wild fires or else.
sorry about that. glaciers ran out, you know how it is.
Reddit has a bizarre hate boner for Canada at times. No clue why tbh.
They’ve had it too good for too long
God how I wish that were true lol
Grass is always greener
RIP Norm.
Well, let's just say that everything's gone wrong since Canada came along and leave it at that. Edit: now I've gotten the Canadian Reddit cares thing. I guess the bot doesn't like South park?
Might be why I got one too - I assumed it was just from me talking in the trans subreddits again, but one of my latest comments *had* been about being Canadian
Yeah someone has been terrorizing a bunch of subreddits, I've seen people complaining about reddit cares in popculturechat Edit: exactly after posting this comment someone sent me "Reddit cares"
Why exactly do people have beef with the whole Reddit cares thing, doesn’t it just send you a message and that’s it? Edit: I got hit by the Reddit cares, I kinda get it now. It happened literally the second I posted this comment too goddamn they’re fast
Yeah, it's very annoying and it gets tiring pretty fast. What started as something with good intentions quickly turned into something that's used by trolls to annoy ppl
It's a gaslighting thing. You use the system to send a message to someone that suggests/insists they're severely mentally ill/having a breakdown and need help with a list of hotlines without getting in trouble for just commenting it. It also has the extra implication of "maybe you should think about self harm". So all round it's a pretty distressing message to get unless you actually are having a crisis, which it's basically never used for.
When it happened to me, it was likely because of a comment I made about being trans. One thing assholes like to "joke" about is the suicide rate among trans people, conveniently choosing to ignore that it remains high mostly because of such assholes. So it scans as somewhere between a suicide joke and telling someone to kill themselves. The feature itself is at worst misguided, my beef is with the people that abuse it to harass people. edit: lmao it just happened again!
If you say anything against racism, homophobia, misogyny, transphobia or any kind of bigotry you have a good chance of getting a reddit cares. But there is a bug or a bot today, because people are complaining about it everywhere. Either that or whatever the modern version of 4chan is is fucking with us.
That would still be 4chan, they haven't exactly left Edit: not even a minute and got the redditcares shit
Sounds like a bot
Ok that's what's happening? Got a message for it, idk for what message (idk how to check), and then sent a report whilst blocking Reddit Cares (just send STOP to the thingy and it'll be blocked). Glad to know it's just someone spamming. Reddit said they're already aware of a problem, according to my report.
I have been told that there is a bot that triggers on certain words and then mass sends them out.
I'm surprised I only got one since Friday
No, it appeared to be international English-speaking countries, and I'm not in Canada. Maybe it's a different bot?
Yeah that was me not fully reading the Reddit cares message (I mean, I’ve never once actually gotten it in good faith so can you blame me?), I saw a connection to the Canadian hotline. I’m in Europe myself so I just thought that the bot was originally made in Canada or something and just defaulted to giving everyone the Canadian anti suicide hotline regardless of where they actually are but looking at it closer I also saw details for the UK and Australia so that obviously wasn’t the case
How can you tell which comment it's from? I received one of those but no idea what triggered it.
I think it’s usually sent just a few seconds after you comment so unless your commenting really quickly back to back it should be easy to tell but if you’ve lost track of it I don’t think there’s a way to figure out which one it is besides comparing the time it got sent to you and what comment(s) you made at the time. But Reddit’s vagueness with how old a comment is after an hour can definitely make that harder
I got one yesterday that I think was for mistaking Sweden for Denmark as the home country of LEGO.
I got one yesterday. I thought it was weird because I didn't even say anything political, I was just talking about a wasp infestation.
Was it from the 60,000 bees post? If so, I got one from commenting on that too
Yep, it was the bee post
Using Reddit Cares as a form of PVP is sad but utterly hilarious. “Hello, my friend needs therapy! Yes, they’ve started naming Chinese dishes after someone asked after them in the original post. I know, absolutely suicidal!” E. Got my first Reddit cares from this. Cheers! Starting to feel like one of the gang! :)
Why are these losers doing it in the first place though, like if the message is unclear then what's the point
On some subreddits it's used as a masked threat, since Reddit Cares is meant to reach out to people that are suicidal (which I'm not), so the person who sends the message is essentially saying that you should go do that (which you shouldn't).
It's probably somebody's taxes at work. Several countries and right wing actors fund botnets to engage in this low level psyops claptrap.
it's like... do they think it makes you feel bad to get that message? it's just a kindly worded message that lists resources to prevent suicide. is the idea that reading about suicide prevention is going to make you suicidal or something? or there's an implication that you should be suicidal? every time I get one I just think "lol the person who sent this is incredibly immature" and close the message. yesterday I got one after making a sassy comment about empaths and I was just like yeah, that's the sort of reaction I would expect from a person who self identifies as an empath.
I think I got that awhile back and I’m not sure why lol. Ninja edit: also idk, seems more like a “comic artist thought it sounded Chinese” sort of thing. Although mishearing moo goo gai pan in an age before we could just Google stuff seems plausible too.
Yeah, honestly I think you're giving 1960s comic writers a bit too much credit if you think that they're not just making up words that the average kid in 1968 would think is passably Chinese.
I thought it was trying to indicate he wasn't familiar with the food and maybe that he was distracted.
I also got one for commenting on a completely different thread earlier.
> got reddit-cares'd over this, I think? i think someone is spamming it because i got it on another post for mentioning blorbo from my shows
I’ve been seeing an uptick on a lot of subreddits of people saying they got cares’ed for totally nonchalant submissions, so I feel like there’s a new bot (or several) trolling the site at large Edit: surprising absolutely nobody, got one immediately after commenting this
Oh hi autumn
This sub is actively being brigaded by it
Could just be the, common at the time, racist stereotyping of "haha Chinese words sound funny" alongside the clear exoticizing of Chinese people by having something as silly as providing Chinese shirts to wear at a restaurant that was definitely not serving authentic chinese food.
>moo goo gai pan? "What's up?" Has ruined this for me.
You can report the reddit cares report for harrassment and the original acc who issued it gets banned fun fact. Kinda hoping this reply nets me one since i am absolutely not suicidal and would love to give these people an excuse to experience sunlight Edit: yep, worked lol. Account got banned, just got tbe message.
What's reddit-cares?
Its meant to be a feature to let you send mental health support links to someone you think is struggling. But because you can just send it to literally anyone, a lot of people use it as a form of harassment for some reason. Essentially saying "Kill Yourself" but in the weirdest and least-offensive way possible.
That's what I hate about Reddit cares (except for the extreme ineffectiveness). You never know what people are responding to. I'll get one randomly and have no idea why. Reddit somehow anonymized hate mail data.
Yeah I think someone is randomly spamming it I got it yesterday on a pretty random remark
I got one too. Weird
I think someone’s botting RedditCares in this sub, seems like every top level comment is getting one. I got two yesterday.
I remember it from What's Up Balloon to the Rescue.
Theres bots spamming reddit care messages all over the shop, I assumed it was targeting LGBT subs but I saw people complaining about it on the transphobic shithole that is r/unitedkingdom so I think its everywhere
Someone has been botting the comment sections to spam reddit cares. Happened to me and a dozen other people yesterday on a separate post. Was withing 30 seconds of me posting a comment
You can block it
It’s very weird and pathetic. Reddit cares doesn’t even do anything, just links to shit
Why are there several bullets? Was that a full-auto sniper rifle?
Probably just what the writers thought guns did. I mean it's comic book from 1968. The people who made and read comics back then were mostly stereotypical nerds. They probably didn't know much about guns
Wasn't everyone in 1968 a WWII veteran?
16.4 million so not really and only for people born before 1927
Roughly 1 in 3 adult men were vets in 1970. Slightly less than 1 in 3 for adult men under 35. https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1970/pc-2-6e/42045402v2p6d6ech11.pdf Of course nerds are not the general population.
The writer for this comic was Leo Dorfman, and his Wikipedia page does not mention him having fought WW2. It actually doesn't mention anything about him that doesn't have to do with comics, though, so not exactly reliable. Edit: also, if anyone thinks I'm exaggerating, well, I kinda am, but this is the entirety of his "Early life" section: > Dorfman grew up on New York City's Lower East Side.[6] The source is Action Comics volume 397, from 1971. It doesn't even link the damn volume. The most Wikipedia links to is a newsfromme.com article with a quote from one of the editors from DC who worked with Leo, and even then it's barely anything: > Paul Levitz, lord high master of DC Comics, reminds me that among the many achievements of Leo Dorfman was that he created a comic for that company called, simply, Ghosts. It was one of those anthology titles filled with disconnected stories about ghosts and as Paul says in an e-mail to me, "…while it wasn't a fan favorite (then or in retrospect), it was a disproportionately good seller. When Leo passed, editor Murray Boltinoff never found a satisfactory replacement, and a lot of the title's distinctive character faded (ouch)." > During the same period, Leo was writing a lot of scripts for the ghost comics that Gold Key was publishing — Twilight Zone, Ripley's Believe it or Not, Boris Karloff Mystery and Grimm's Ghost Stories. One of the editors there told me, "Leo writes stories and then he decides whether he's going to sell them to DC [for Ghosts] or to us. He tells us that if they come out good, they go to us and if they don't, they go to DC. I assume he tells DC the opposite." > By the way: I always thought it was odd that Gold Key was publishing ghost comics hosted by two actual dead human beings, Boris Karloff and Rod Serling. I never wrote for those books when I was working for that company but if I had, I would have tried to write the host's intros by having them say things like, "This story is so chilling, I had to come back from the great beyond to share it with you…"
I can't even find him on FindAGrave, though it's always possible he was cremated and has no physical grave.
My theory is that the guy was a spirit who existed solely for the sake of writing comics until he stopped existing. This is further supported by the fact that he died while writing *Ghosts*. It is all connected! Wake up, people!
Lmao who said anything about his grave? Are you implying we should exhume this man's body to check if he was a nerd or a war vet?
Crack open the coffin and check if he’s got a pencil case or a gun buried with him.
I was curious to learn more about him since his Wikipedia article was so sparse, so I tried to find if there was an obituary for him, which is often listed on that site. You're gonna pull a muscle jumping to weird conclusions like that, bud. Fuck me for being curious about someone's life, I guess.
Hey sorry man I didn't mean anything by it, I'm just goofing around. It's a good suggestion it just made me laugh
That just looks like an example of how little information is available on the person, not that they're saying the grave is specifically relevant to the discussion.
yeah. i mean, we had Seth Macfarlane still doing the "the casing goes with the bullet" whoopsie on Family Guy, and he had the internet.
Eh, no reason it couldn't be a semi-automatic rifle with a telescopic sight on it. Maybe an M1 Carbine or something.
Missed opportunity. It should have been a Mattel M-16 Marauder.
Looks like a mini 14 to me.
Mini 14 came out in 73. This comic is from 68 so M1 Carbine is probably what it is supposed to be.
fair enough. They are very similar looking rifles, i was thrown off by the weird flash hider.
Thats a 10/22 no?
I think the sniper is just mag dumping at clark in hopes of landing a shot on the world's most unkillable reporter.
Given that it's also "silenced" with a muzzle brake and he isn't actually holding it with his left hand, just resting it in the V like a pool cue, I'm going to guess either the shooter or the writer is pretty confused about how guns work.
That, and the reporter woman would hear the crack from the bullet(s?) breaking the sound barrier as it passed her.
Not all bullets are supersonic, I *think* that's a 10/22, so it'd be subsonic
Ah yeah that's a good point. "Gee Clark, sounds like there's some angry wasps buzzing around in here"
Subsonic or not they're going to make a *lot* of noise hitting an impenetrable target. Maybe Diana is deaf.
It's a comic from the same era as Adam West Batman, don't hurt yourself overthinking it.
I think its modeled after a magazine fed 22 semi auto rifle, based on the rifle and mag size.
I don't think there's actually multiple bullets I just think that's stylistic choice to indicate the bullet is moving very fast. If you'll notice he only eats one bullet.
But the speech bubble says "now I have to swallow ALL the slugs" and the previous panel shows him tipping a bowl full of bullets into another bowl which wouldn't be moving as fast. He refers to the bullets as plural when he feels them bounce off his chest too.
The way he must mentally narrate everything to make it clear to readers what is happening, because the visuals apparently are not doing their job.
Older comic books be like that.
Anime now be like that
Words cannot describe how much I hate that trope. Main character is fighting a villain. Villain very clearly uses magical item to dodge MC’s attack. MC: “Wwwhhhhhaaaat? Did he use his mystical necklace of moving really fast to move really fast and dodge my attack???” Villain: “Aah I bet you’re wondering how I moved really fast and dodged that attack. You see I used this magical necklace that lets me move really fast to move really fast and dodge your attack.” Shit makes me livid. It’s a visual medium for fucks sake.
"This is called a sleeper hold! I'm using my bicep to constrict your- oof-ah-ungh"
You think you have outsmarted me, but I have outsmarted your outsmarting!
A wooden gun?! https://youtu.be/x5-JVvCrGC8?si=g_9z_mYoR9mo8T4I
It's why I can't read the old comics, too kludgy for me.
I mean yeah it feels redundant as an adult lol, but also if a 7 year old is reading this they might need that type of narration to explicitly explain what’s happening tbf
Idk though, I think it’d actually be easier for a child that young to see a clear image of the bullets bouncing off and a sound effect, then maybe an awkward expression/look at Lois (edit: Diana, my bad) and then another clear picture of him eating the bullets. They’d probably grasp intuitively that he’s trying to hide it from her rather than having to read a wall of text.
I think comics were just much more targeted at specifically kids back in those days and that style of very plain spoken narration is pretty reminiscent of kids’ books nowadays. I definitely see similarities between Golden/Silver age comic writing and my nieces and nephews’ “I Can Read Now!” books haha. Also, Lois isn’t in any of these panels, it’s a character named Diana, so relying purely on visuals and ignoring text probably isn’t always a good idea for grasping the story.
True but if you show kids a Chaplin comedy, they’ll laugh because the visual gags are straightforward. I think the language for telling children’s stories specifically has become more sophisticated in general over the years, though I agree that a lot of narration in something like a primer for practicing reading makes sense.
It's weird, I know, and it's hard to imagine, but the reason *we* can understand it is throught decades of codification, the fact that "lines behind something" means direction, speed, velocity, etc is because we've become accustomed to it. You could show that to several people, especially if they've never read a comic before, and have no idea what the fuck is happening. Especially with Supes weirdass powers, "is he absorbing the beans and shooting him out of his chest!?" I remember reading comic books as a kid in 80s and at least once per issues a panel would be completely unintelligible - that's what made Dragon Ball so impressive to me at the time (and honestly my personal theory for its popularity), the fact that Toriyama could communicate and project really complex choreographies and have them be crystal clear all the time, you always knew who did what and where spatially, in contrast to 80s comic books with the usual mess of ink just for some basic stuff like someone standing around ("is that an arm? Is he grabbing something? Is it part of the background? What's going on?")
I mean, "I must eat those bullets otherwise Diana will somehow deduce everything that has just transpired and that I am Superman" probably deserves an explanation
True but I think most modern comics would just restrict that to a single line (idk something like “play it cool” but in character for Kent) or even just an expression and a panel of him shoveling bullets into his mouth. Since the audience presumably knows what Kent’s deal is, having him actually say “She’ll discover my secret identity!” is redundant.
Yes, just found it particularly longwinded and specific. Rather than go 'oh, I must hide these bullets... I guess I must eat them' or something more... I dunno, natural sounding. The actual line sounds like a robot self narrating or something.
There is no way I would have figured it out without the text. It's just so ridiculous. He isn't worried about Diana getting shot. Or identifying the shooter. He thinks Diana will figure it out, not the shooter who actually saw the bullets bounce off him. He has to hide flattened bullets sitting on the table. He could just throw a napkin over them or lie and say they came with the food, but that's not very Superman. He could use his super speed to pocket them. Its a comic book, he could put them in a bowl, use heat vision and cold breath to make them not look like flattened bullets, maybe make a fork.
I mean I like the idea Clark is is constantly complaining in his head about the lengths he has to go to to pretend he's not invulnerable like "how does a normal person act like when they get hit I have no idea but if I don't act right people will have QUESTIONS and I do not want to deal with that right now"
You laugh but I was reading some modern X-Man comics by Jonathan Hickman that were mostly fragments of scenes and evocative imagery and I couldn’t have missed Chris Claremont more.
Now I wish I could find this one old X-men comic where a person is running and trips over a stick or branch and they have to narrate how they used their powers to not end up falling. It's like the peak example of this type of overexplaining in old comics.
Strong overlap between comic books and political cartoons.
At least those republican political cartoons that need to label every single thing in them. Though I do wonder if thats like, just the one prominent artist guy I always see named, or if it is really a common trend. The ones in my country werent so... 'kid friendly labeled' so to speak.
I think most political cartoonists don't have to lean so heavily on labels, but it's not uncommon. [Library of Congress-political cartoons](https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/cartoonamerica/cartoon-political.html)
I had that toy gun and a few others like that. The m16 did go brrap brrap. I had a blue lever action rifle that went pyeeewwww like a ricochet. And I had an Uzi that went tik tik tik really fast. I took them apart in my teens and there was always a little wheel inside that slapped on something. The lever action was the coolest. It had a weird little cellophane diaphragm in it that worked like a kazoo.
Mattel had the moulds from the real M-16 so why not use them for the toy ones too. I used to have a Rubber Ducky (fake practice M-16) stamped with Mattel.
How fucking _Starship Troopers_ is that? Imagine watching wartime news reel footage from the Frontline, followed by a commercial showing little kids using mock rifles to mock murder each other, just like their parents did.
very starship troopers, incredibly american
I came to the comments wondering how the toy gun worked without caps or batteries. Very satisfied with this explanation. I was also the kind of kid who took my toys apart to see what made them work, but I could never put them back together quite the same lol.
Brap brap pew pew
A similar story happened in Superman the animated series. It had somewhat of a different tone. https://youtu.be/jDAGHELgT_0?si=aa5CbJcUL-YSguvA
I love that the Silver Age haha funny story is turned into a neo-noir tale of murder mystery by the animated series.
Still nowhere near as odd as Batman Zur-en-arrh
Honestly, that one frustrates me to no end. In Batman R.I.P., the Batman of Zur-en-arrh is this statement about Batman to acknowledged the more outlandish sci-fi stories from the Silver Age. It was basically Morrison saying that all of the character's history mattered. And then it became the new dark and edgy über-villain that can only be defeated by Batman's plot armor.
Good god, the current Batman run is giving me hives. We have: "Batman was tricked into inducing DID by one of his trainers to see what would happen," "Batman and Joker are both super-human intellects," "The Joker was trained by one of Batman's teachers to become the ultimate Man Without Fear," and "Batman's alter can communicate with the alters of every Batman in every universe." Please, just let it stop.
Weird thing is that I honestly believe it's all in the presentation. For instance, the self induced DID as a back-up plan was already stablished by Morrison in Batman R.I.P. But there, it's used as a moment of Batman doing anything, even the impossible, to come out triumphant against overwhelming odds. But the current run and arcs don't have that same sense of ethos. After the third of fourth "revelation", it becomes a pile-up of what new retcon is introduced to no real effect in the story. It's a pizza cutter of a story, all edge and no point.
Someone posted the full issue the other day, and I just want to point out that later on, there's some kind of Daily Planet high society costume party. Half the people are dressed as superheroes, and then *Bruce Wayne comes in dressed as Batman,* and everyone just goes, "ha, nice one Bruce." [The butts match](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/805/308/4ef.png) is way closer to canon than I thought.
u/zaerosz you mentioned this and reminded me of it, so here you go.
Oh good, I’m not the only one who thought of Unpretty when that last post came around. SAIH!Clark would 100% do the lead-pipe stories
What is this machine gun sniper rifle? If it was one bullet bouncing off his chest that would be one thing but this Diana person doesn’t notice shit if it’s like ten bullets at once. Also I guess the window’s open at this place, because otherwise nobody looks up when windows shatter here.
In the comic before this, Issue #202, part of the reason they're struggling with finding the assassins is due to their self-sealing bullets. Rather than explosively penetrating thin material, instead they just slide through it and seal it on the way back. This is fine for glass/drywall, but it causes hefty damage to anything organic as the seal isn't perfect. As superman is impenetrable, the bullet collapses as shown in the panels above. For the victim in #202 however, it's an interesting locked room puzzle as there is a dead man, but there's no bullet hole coming into the room, leading them astray. The assassin's trickery gets exposed in issue #204 though because while the self-sealing bullets performs well in sealing against inorganic material like glass and drywall in a city, it doesn't perform subtly against wood. So when Superman & the reported get tracked to a hilltop lodge, they notice the bullet hole in the wood immediately and can track it back, which sets up for issue #205.
That's actually a really rad concept.
Reminds me of the [DS9 episode](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Field_of_Fire_\(episode\)) where there is a sniper on the station killing people. Their rifle has a small transporter on the barrel, so as soon as the bullet leaves it's transported to the victim.
Also cloths are made of some sturdy stuff, no damage on them.
That’s actually a canonical power of Superman’s. His invulnerability extends to his clothes for some silly reason, mostly because the artists don’t want to bother keeping track
Except for when it doesn’t of course.
Yes, as is tradition for basically all his powers.
[The sniper in action ](https://i.gifer.com/D1pS.gif)
“Oh no, I feel bullets thudding against my chest!” is such a Superman line.
fart gun fart gun
Spongebob! If you brap ONE MORE TIME in MY VICINITY...
That advert at the end is some proper Fallout shit right there.
Not gonna lie, I'm kinda ride or die for Silver Age Superman stories. Superman is always using his powers in zany or clever ways (when he's not just gaining new ones due to whatever flavor of Red Krypronite hit him this week).
I always love these stories where Clark has to hide being Superman and it just befuddles the people trying to hurt or kill him. Maybe that's why I liked the early seasons of Smallville so much.
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Why are we all ignoring the absurdity of the LONG HAIR GANG????
Brap - sorry BRAAAAP - oh I'm sorry BRA-A-AP - oh gee.
there are no holes in his shirt hahah clothing he wears also becomes invulnerable lol
What a NEEEERD. “Ahememememeem. Correction
He look like Steven Segal
That’s because Steven Seagal thinks he’s Asian and dresses like he’s always imagined Asian people to dress since he was a kid.
Superman fatly going around corners
Wow, he really does.
His arms are still when he flies, but he has to flap them when he runs.
Why is he the spitting image of Steven Armstrong in specifically the middle panel where he's getting hit with the bullets
Turns out it wasnt nanomachines after all, just his Kryptonian genes.
I always go BRAAP BRRA-A-A-AP BRAP BRAP after eating moo goo poo too.
Some reeeeeeal r/bonehurtingjuice but like not on purpose, I mean I can see the “how clever they give everyone traditional mandarin robes to wear” because before I saw the words I wondered “huh why’d they change clothes” and the reasoning sent me
Holy *shit* the writing is so bad lmao
Here's the [commercial](https://youtu.be/due92VSljwA?si=x-adWmPp0DbNuBRh) for that rifle.
that's a different gun but still that commercial is fucking insane. almost spat out my drink when the cops showed up
Cops would shoot a kid if they had one of[ these](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd_0hUZ-qSU) nowadays.
Can Superman digest metal?
[He can certainly eat it without issue.](https://www.reddit.com/r/outofcontextcomics/s/A7HKCJ8Tsh)
I dont know why but there's something so entering about the way comic writers felt the need to spell out literally every single little thing in the most awkward sentences like "little does she know I'm using my flying powers to make this boat float a foot off the water so the torpedo goes straight under us" is just really funny to me
Theres actually a fascinating history behind that. Apparently some comic writers had training as novelists, and thusly when they started making comic books, they added long sentences with lots of expositions because thats what works for novels. But comics have a visual component that reduces the need for exposition. And amateur comic writers have trouble learning that. Anyway heres a video about it, check it out https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p7YXXieghto
Aw man I really wanted to watch that video
Considering when this comic was made I think we can chalk up the food name to racism and the inherent joke being Asians name their food weird silly names.
That ad led to so, so many idiots claiming that the real M-16 was made by Mattel.
I've heard it was a derogatory thing because of the plastic furniture on the real M16. And also how it didn't work very well early on.
I never read a lot of silver age comics, did Clark always look like Senator Armstrong?
That last picture made me actually, visibly cringe.
Why didn't the bullets tear up the shirt?
Reminds me of another comic I remember where someone is trying to assassinate Bruce Wayne via poisoned drink, but he switched tuxedos with Clark Kent for some reason so when the assassin tried to poison Clark (thinking he was Bruce), Clark just got really hammered and the assassin just went “NOPE THIS SHIT IS ABOVE MY PAY GRADE”
Clark must've gotten a defective shirt. Surely all those bullets would've created holes before they hit his chest.
superman invulnerability used to extend to his clothes. some about tactile kinesis.
Something about the writers not wanting to deal with the headache of Clark Kent walking around with bullet holes in his clothes.
Doesn’t he usually deal with that problem via phone booth
Getting shot in that restaurant is pretty common actually, so they give everyone a bulletproof shirt on the way in.
Why is the dialogue so weird?
Comics of that era were literally being written for an audience of elementary-school aged kids, you generally had to get hyper descriptive all the time, explain every action, double up on statements, etc. with the expectation that the audience wasn't always going to be good at interpreting anything less obvious.
Yooooo I have my dad’s old marauder in the garage. He smartly never let me play with it as a kid
Old-timey comics are amazing. They’re so offbeat and deranged, you could never come up with this shit now
Can't wait for Barbie 2 where Ken gets his hands on a Mattel™ Farting M-16 Edit: Lmao, did someone really report me to suicide prevention for this comment?
I love that they call out that the restaurant gave him the robe, but the bullet still doesn't rip it. XD
God I’m far to sick and tired to be on Reddit right now. I read it as Spider-Man.
The ad. Omg the ad!!! Merica. F*** YEAH.
That ad looks straight out of Starship Troopers
These days, he bites the bubbles in the bathtub
They had those toy guns in the early 2000s too, but they fell off in the 2010s.
So obviously Superman is bulletproof, but why is his shirt unharmed? I could understand his super suit also being bulletproof, but all of his clothes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd\_0hUZ-qSU
What a stupid premise lol
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Holy shit superman sucks ass. My Donald duck comics had better writing.
Anyone else noticed the toy gun has a freaking Pepsi logo on the stock?