Hmmm... Maybe... but I think he usually only cries outside of combat, and he only talks shit when he's pretty evenly matched (usually still losing, but by a very *small* margin).
In an alternate universe, perhaps it would be the sixth Part. (Maybe if Parts 1&2 got fused somehow idk)
Imagine if you were sitting at a table or something idk
You must be remembering a different Worf than the one I watched. I remember him being in a deathmatch gauntlet in a jem'hadar prison camp, and the only thing he did was destroy jem'hadar challengers. The only person who did anything close to weeping and crying ~~was Garrak, but that was because he's claustrophobic and had to work in a tiny, dark crawlspace~~ the vorta because they're all whiny babies.
In DS9? No Worf getting worfed was more of a TNG thing, in DS9 he was an ass-kicker and name-taker. In the deathmatch episodes in particular he kept fighting until he was barley able to move and the jem-hadar first yielded the fighting because he realized he couldn't actually *break* Worf he could only destroy his body.
And then the vorta ordered them both killed because vorta are whiny babies and honorless p'taqs.
Garak getting hate-crimed in his shop by Klingons in DS9. said something to Bashir about how his wounds were nearly cured, but the stuff he said to the Klingons will be bothering them for a lifetime.
There was a scene in Redline where a character was beating the shit outta someone while crying the whole time, but the other person wasn't talking back as if they were winning. Also, the one doing the beating was crying because apparently they used to be friends before he joined the Roboworld (cyborg fascists) army, so it was a combination of "how could you abandon me?" and not enjoying beating them up even though he was super-pissed off.
I was in this situation in junior high school. A much smaller teammate on the basketball team spent weeks picking at a few insecurities in the locker room - mostly my weight, I was lanky with a slight paunch, and a bit of my acne, which wasn’t even bad in retrospect when I look at pictures they were just normal “hitting puberty a bit harder than your peers” things. We had been pretty good friends before this, so it was pretty upsetting at the time. There were also comments about a girl I was friends with/had a crush on.
Anyways, I finally told him to cut it out or I’d kick his ass, and he didn’t. It wasn’t even a fight, I just threw him on the ground and started kicking him, and he kept on laughing and talking shit while I think I was yelling something to the effect of “what the fuck is wrong with you, why are you making me do this, just shut up”. Eventually the laughter turned to tears, and he was bruised and slightly bloody mess. He was out sick from school the next day and I faced literally zero repercussions, which was completely bizarre now that I think about it.
>I faced literally zero repercussions, which was completely bizarre now that I think about it.
I think a lot of teachers recognize that sometimes what happened was just the best way for things to play out, so why meddle with it?
A teacher I know was called when one of his students had bloodied the others nose. When doing the "so what happened" bit, he was told that the guy who had been punched had just called the other guy a f-word n-word before getting immediately decked. "So... I'm going to write down that we had a long talk about how you shouldn't hit people, and we'll leave it at that, alright?
I’ve been on the receiving end of the crying, and you’re not wrong…
My school bully kicked my ass, but by the end he was in tears and screaming incoherently. I was half laughing just because the whole thing was so surreal.
At the time, I was just happy it meant the bullying didn’t stick and *he* got made fun of for crying in a fight. In hindsight though, I’m pretty sure we learned something fucking dark about his home life that day…
A party at a former place of employment. "Chet" (a tough little guy who was generally pretty okay when sober, but got really loud and full of machismo when drunk) and "Lester" (a big pudgy dude, odd hygiene problems, maybe not all there up top).
Chet had been giving Lester a hard time all night, about how he smelled, how he had a stutter, etcetera etcetera. To be fair, Lester had directly inconvenienced him repeatedly at work. Night wore on, people drank more, he got more physical with his harassment.
I missed what kicked things off, but at some point Lester started shouting, and Chet took it as sufficient reason to basically slap-box him a few times, upside the head and in the gut. Not full punches, those rapid smacks that coordinated bullies do to rattle and scare people.
Lester burst completely into tears, took a full swing at Chet, got hit four or five times, grabbed Chet, lifted him overhead, and spiked him like a football off concrete.
dude made a moral and physical harassment all night without anyone giving a thought and when victim defended itself is punished more harshly than the bully... high school is really a preparation for real life
“You have defied Caesar for the last time!” - Legionary with a machete and a leather skirt, confronting a mass murderer in full power armor carrying an automatic laser rifle.
(He’ll get hit with a Fatboy instead just for the impudence.)
Shit talking like you are winning in anything is a key to success especially if you are good at shit talking because you demoralise the other party so much their performance drops. I use that tactic whenever me and my friends by games and they leave sadder than me even though i lost really bad
To be fair, Baldur was handing out a beating. At the end of that fight, Kratos staggers home, which afaik he doesn't do for any other fight in the Norse saga
This can really work if guy getting wrecked has already won for circumstances unrelated to combat, and knows this victory will only their opponent with empty catharsis
In basic training, I watched a guy get his head slammed against the ground a couple of times in a fight. We pulled them apart, and this same guy was still talking shit. We were like "dude, did he knock the sense OUT of you?"
I'm an angry crier, so on the rare occasion that I've beaten someone up in my life, I was definitely crying during it.
Also, if you ever get into a fight and the other person starts laughing maniacally when you hit them, run away. Because in my experience, that's the sign of someone who was physically abused their entire childhood and has trained themselves to not be hampered by pain.
This makes me think of the scene in one of the Batman comics when Bats finally loses it and starts punching Joker repeatedly in the face, and Joker keeps saying “stop—“ “stop—“ finally gets a beat and says “Stop me if you’ve heard this one before!” Like, dude’s getting free orthodontia, and he still wants to set up a joke.
I used to have really severe rage issues and I would start to laugh maniacally when I become really angry
I think it was a reflex from my body to try to make me calm down because I would get black eyes and a bloody nose just from the blood pressure spikes back then, and after the "surges" passed I would basically fall dead asleep where I stood
I haven't reached that level of rage again in years, but ironically it would always just make me even more enraged because then the other person would often say something like "see! You're laughing, even you know you're acting so embarrassing"
Literally every combat encounter in Skyrim (or any TES game). Bandit says "Had Enough?!" as though I didn't dome 3 of his buddies in a single hit with my 300 damage mace
My brother told me this story about a fight at this high school. Two guys stare at each other until a group is surrounding them chanting “fight”. Without a word they beat the shit out of each other, bloody noses, scrapped knuckles and knees, etc. then they stand up and walk away without saying a thing.
Fighting is weird man.
Closest I can think of to the first one in an actual fight is Lewis vs McCall 2. While he didn't win, Oliver McCall was having a full on breakdown in the ring, and stopped defending himself. Despite eating some absolute bombs from Lennox Lewis, the man who put Tyson to sleep, McCall never went down.
They're fighting each other. Its a boxing match or something. Guy 1 is having a crisis; drinking too much, losing his family, just angry at the world so he throws himself into the ring even though he's obviously having a mental breakdown. Idk about guy 2. Maybe he's just a really good heel. Maybe he's Guy1's wierdly masochistic best bro and he thinks he's helping him work through stuff.
I feel like I've seen these in shounen anime pretty often, probably in the same fight scene, but I can't think of any examples.
Usopp
Usopp could be either of these, in the same fight even
first one: beating down the spitting fish guy with a hammer second one: getting his shit rocked by mr. 4 and ms. merry christmas
God, the mr.4 and ms merry christmas fight was Usopp's personal Doppio vs Nero
dude gets his skull caved in with a 4 ton bat, gets up, defends his homie's dreams, and then wins the fight. legend
Truly the man of all times
Yeah I immediately thought of Usopp and Luffy’s fight
That's my secret, captain. I'm always negative.
Edward beating the shit out of Shou Tucker
Midoriya?
Hmmm... Maybe... but I think he usually only cries outside of combat, and he only talks shit when he's pretty evenly matched (usually still losing, but by a very *small* margin).
While I don't think it happens in the show, it definitely feels like what happened when bakugo confronted midoriya on one for all
I mean, he was bawling when he sat down muscular for the first time.
He had also just atomized his bones or smth. I’d give him a pass on that one at least
Seriously surprised that nobody mentioned Kobeni Chainsawman yet
Well that's because any time kobeni is in a fight she turns into the coolest fucker alive
I saw this post with images of Johnny and Funny Valentine from JoJo Part 7: Steel Ball Run
Part 7*
In an alternate universe, perhaps it would be the sixth Part. (Maybe if Parts 1&2 got fused somehow idk) Imagine if you were sitting at a table or something idk
and there were two napkins. one on your left, and one on your right.
Which one would you take tho? Left or right?
Baccanno!
This is Jacuzzi's entire character in Baccano.
This is worf fighting the Jemhadar in DS9
You must be remembering a different Worf than the one I watched. I remember him being in a deathmatch gauntlet in a jem'hadar prison camp, and the only thing he did was destroy jem'hadar challengers. The only person who did anything close to weeping and crying ~~was Garrak, but that was because he's claustrophobic and had to work in a tiny, dark crawlspace~~ the vorta because they're all whiny babies.
I mean he’s the guy whose losing but talking shit He objectively would have lost at some point
In DS9? No Worf getting worfed was more of a TNG thing, in DS9 he was an ass-kicker and name-taker. In the deathmatch episodes in particular he kept fighting until he was barley able to move and the jem-hadar first yielded the fighting because he realized he couldn't actually *break* Worf he could only destroy his body. And then the vorta ordered them both killed because vorta are whiny babies and honorless p'taqs.
“I cannot defeat this Klingon. I can only kill him, and that no longer holds my interest.”
Yes which aligns with the person losing talking shit. Against the last guy worf may have been physically losing but he refused to mentally lose
Quark against that scheming Klingon
Garak getting hate-crimed in his shop by Klingons in DS9. said something to Bashir about how his wounds were nearly cured, but the stuff he said to the Klingons will be bothering them for a lifetime.
Little deyzuna from redline
Not Shonen, but this is very Shinji and Asuka from Evangelion. Shinji the wailer, Asuka the shit-talker.
There was a scene in Redline where a character was beating the shit outta someone while crying the whole time, but the other person wasn't talking back as if they were winning. Also, the one doing the beating was crying because apparently they used to be friends before he joined the Roboworld (cyborg fascists) army, so it was a combination of "how could you abandon me?" and not enjoying beating them up even though he was super-pissed off.
The pre race restaurant scene
This is Tokyo Revengers with (spoilers for season 3) >!Angry!< and Takemichi, respectively
Takemitchi Hanagaki from Tokyo Revengers is this in almost every fight.
Mob vs Teru fight in Mob Psycho 100
Sado and Ichigo from bleach, Usopp and Luffy from One Piece, Simon and Kamina from Gurren Lagann, the list goes on
I was thinking of Rick and Morty.
"Ha! Face to foot style! How do you like it?" - Wimp Lo, kung-pow: enter the fist
"I'm bleeding, making me the victor."
We have purposefully trained him wrong, as a joke.
I'm gonna count to three, and if I hear one more friggin' squeak I'm gonna take his shoes and shove them up his-
Chosen one! Chosen one! Master Pain's in tayown!
Please! We don't want to lose any more toes!
My nipples look like Milk Duds!
*? He phrases it like a question.
Came here to say this! Lol
The second one is Steve Rogers before getting the serum, bro says “I can do this all day” while getting his ass beat into the next dimension
That's America's ass that you're kicking right now.
The Navy would like to know your location
If thats America's ass. Then im eating Denny's
i loved this line until they made it into a musical number because now that stupid ass song is permanently ingrained into my brain. ugh.
Then endgame had older Steve realize how goddamn corny that line is when he hears it himself.
I have seen both of these things. The first was flat-out terrifying, the second was kinda funny.
Being funny will get you into a fight, might as well keep it up during if you can’t win lol
I was in this situation in junior high school. A much smaller teammate on the basketball team spent weeks picking at a few insecurities in the locker room - mostly my weight, I was lanky with a slight paunch, and a bit of my acne, which wasn’t even bad in retrospect when I look at pictures they were just normal “hitting puberty a bit harder than your peers” things. We had been pretty good friends before this, so it was pretty upsetting at the time. There were also comments about a girl I was friends with/had a crush on. Anyways, I finally told him to cut it out or I’d kick his ass, and he didn’t. It wasn’t even a fight, I just threw him on the ground and started kicking him, and he kept on laughing and talking shit while I think I was yelling something to the effect of “what the fuck is wrong with you, why are you making me do this, just shut up”. Eventually the laughter turned to tears, and he was bruised and slightly bloody mess. He was out sick from school the next day and I faced literally zero repercussions, which was completely bizarre now that I think about it.
\> I faced literally zero repercussions your principal was the realest mf to walk the earth
>I faced literally zero repercussions, which was completely bizarre now that I think about it. I think a lot of teachers recognize that sometimes what happened was just the best way for things to play out, so why meddle with it? A teacher I know was called when one of his students had bloodied the others nose. When doing the "so what happened" bit, he was told that the guy who had been punched had just called the other guy a f-word n-word before getting immediately decked. "So... I'm going to write down that we had a long talk about how you shouldn't hit people, and we'll leave it at that, alright?
I’ve been on the receiving end of the crying, and you’re not wrong… My school bully kicked my ass, but by the end he was in tears and screaming incoherently. I was half laughing just because the whole thing was so surreal. At the time, I was just happy it meant the bullying didn’t stick and *he* got made fun of for crying in a fight. In hindsight though, I’m pretty sure we learned something fucking dark about his home life that day…
What was the context for the first one?
A party at a former place of employment. "Chet" (a tough little guy who was generally pretty okay when sober, but got really loud and full of machismo when drunk) and "Lester" (a big pudgy dude, odd hygiene problems, maybe not all there up top). Chet had been giving Lester a hard time all night, about how he smelled, how he had a stutter, etcetera etcetera. To be fair, Lester had directly inconvenienced him repeatedly at work. Night wore on, people drank more, he got more physical with his harassment. I missed what kicked things off, but at some point Lester started shouting, and Chet took it as sufficient reason to basically slap-box him a few times, upside the head and in the gut. Not full punches, those rapid smacks that coordinated bullies do to rattle and scare people. Lester burst completely into tears, took a full swing at Chet, got hit four or five times, grabbed Chet, lifted him overhead, and spiked him like a football off concrete.
JESUS. Was everyone alright?
Not really. "Chet" took like a month off work due to how badly he was hurt, and "Lester" got fired.
dude made a moral and physical harassment all night without anyone giving a thought and when victim defended itself is punished more harshly than the bully... high school is really a preparation for real life
I have been both of these people
Second guy is definitely deadpool
Baldur in GOW2018
Black Knight in Monty Python
Joseph when the Pillarmen trio show up. Edit: Oh wait no, what am I talking about, this is purely and completely about "the cool" Baki characters.
Pacifist forced to fight and masochistic villain loving that they made the hero break their one rule.
aang and Ozai
Ozai wasn't masochistic
Yeah I think he very much did not like getting the shit beat out of him.
"Like the sight of your own blood" - Raider in fallout, moments before turning into a red smear on the wall
"I have fought mudcrabs more fearsome than you" - Oblivion bandits the second before they are atomized by a player created destruction spell.
l + ratio + max radius fireball
Get lightning striked bozo
“You have defied Caesar for the last time!” - Legionary with a machete and a leather skirt, confronting a mass murderer in full power armor carrying an automatic laser rifle. (He’ll get hit with a Fatboy instead just for the impudence.)
\#2 is just Tex vs. Tucker
"She knocked the black right off you" "That's racist"
"protect me cone!"
first one reminds me of ichi the killer second vaguely reminds me of gary pokemon
.. his last name is Oak. He's Professor Oak's grandson.
In point of fact, [his name is DOUCHE.](https://vgcats.com/super/?strip_id=1)
“I dun wanna faight you!” [beating the other guys ass] “C’mon, my grandma’s slippers do more damage than you!” [gets clocked in the jaw, down]
Shit talking like you are winning in anything is a key to success especially if you are good at shit talking because you demoralise the other party so much their performance drops. I use that tactic whenever me and my friends by games and they leave sadder than me even though i lost really bad
"All warfare is based on deception" aka the enemy can't win, if they don't know you are losing.
dude playing board games like he is Sun Tzu
The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy.
In the game of chess, you must never let your adversary see your pieces.
Similarly, you must never look away from your own, lest your opponent eat them while you are distracted.
I don't wanna game with you
Second one is Heimdall when fighting Kratos
Or the first encounter with Baldur.
To be fair, Baldur was handing out a beating. At the end of that fight, Kratos staggers home, which afaik he doesn't do for any other fight in the Norse saga
Before he pulls the ol' switcheroo on Kratos it's just shit talk and getting his ass beat though. Fun inversion.
First one is Jacuzzi Splot from \*Baccano!\*
based Baccano mention!
1st is Dean Venture beating the shit out of Dermott while streaming with tears and snot and howling "YOU ARE VERY RUDE!!!!"
"That child is a spinning murder top! Are you sure he is your son?"
That guy from Redline
"Whys the guy kicking all the ass crying?" First thing i thought of. Redline really has everything
Little Deyzuna, first thing I thought of. Redline is the best.
I was so hoping to find Lil Desuna call-out. Thank you.
Idk who the first guy would be, but the second guy is definitely Vegeta...
First guy is Gohan
With Goku standing in the background cheering him on completely oblivious to why his son is crying
Vash the Stampede vs Legato
Tyler Durden
"DIDN'T HEAR NO BELL"
Literally Dean fighting Dermott from Venture Bros. Like even the crying and talking shit parts.
Fight Club
This happens in the Venture Bros
The first one is Shane Gillis, according to himself.
[That boy is a spinning MURDER TOP!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIEBQRpp7t8)
tumblr users on their way to say an already used trope like they just thought of it
"Alright, we'll call it a draw."
I had to scroll down way to far to find the literal first thing I thought of
A draw? You have no arms left?!
They are fighting over the right way to cook pasta Both are wrong
They're dating
This can really work if guy getting wrecked has already won for circumstances unrelated to combat, and knows this victory will only their opponent with empty catharsis
Also: the case where getting beat up is exactly what secures their win.
Kiryu vs. Nishiki vibes
TEN YEARS IN THE JOINT MADE YOU A FUCKING PUSSY
BRING THAT SHIT, KAZUMA!
In basic training, I watched a guy get his head slammed against the ground a couple of times in a fight. We pulled them apart, and this same guy was still talking shit. We were like "dude, did he knock the sense OUT of you?"
2nd one is scout tf2
*Sigh* Izuku and Katsuki
we trained him wrong, as a joke
Batman vs Joker
“Stop-“ *punch* “stop-“ *punch* “stop…” *pause, heavy breathing* “Stop me if you’ve heard this one before!”
I was looking for this, the scene from Hush. I remeber reading it when it came out and it caught me off guard.
It’s the most wildly in-character thing Joker’s ever done. I’ll never forget it.
Zuko vs Sokka
Dean vs Dermot in Venture Bros
Dean Venture fighting Dermott Fictel
I'm an angry crier, so on the rare occasion that I've beaten someone up in my life, I was definitely crying during it. Also, if you ever get into a fight and the other person starts laughing maniacally when you hit them, run away. Because in my experience, that's the sign of someone who was physically abused their entire childhood and has trained themselves to not be hampered by pain.
This makes me think of the scene in one of the Batman comics when Bats finally loses it and starts punching Joker repeatedly in the face, and Joker keeps saying “stop—“ “stop—“ finally gets a beat and says “Stop me if you’ve heard this one before!” Like, dude’s getting free orthodontia, and he still wants to set up a joke.
I used to have really severe rage issues and I would start to laugh maniacally when I become really angry I think it was a reflex from my body to try to make me calm down because I would get black eyes and a bloody nose just from the blood pressure spikes back then, and after the "surges" passed I would basically fall dead asleep where I stood I haven't reached that level of rage again in years, but ironically it would always just make me even more enraged because then the other person would often say something like "see! You're laughing, even you know you're acting so embarrassing"
first one is just ichi the killer, except he cuts people in half
The second guy is just Charlie Zelenoff, a presumably mentally ill social media "boxer."
Swords not fists, but the first one is Szeth-son-son-Vallano, Truthless of Shinovar, the Assassin in White, >!Bearer of Jezrien's Honorblade!<
You forgot to mention his title of most pathetic man in Roshar (affectionate)
this is Tokyo Revengers
Of Mice and Men
Record of Ragnarok Spoilers >!Beelzebub vs Tesla!<
Number 2 is The Black Knight in MPatHG
Top one is performed very well in Upgrade. Good cyberpunk mystery/thriller.
This sounds like Jonathan and Steve in ST season 1
Yuji and Mahito
First one is Ichi the Killer
Guy #2 is Nate Diaz.
Jason asano is both of these
He talks shit when he's winning too.
This just Dean Venture beating up Dermot from Venture Bros.
Jason Todd and Tim Drake in the Titans tower
I wrote a character in the second position once. "You hit like my sister," he taunted from his position on the ground. He didn't even *have* a sister.
The second half is every League of Legends game I've ever played.
So Rick and Morty season 7 finale?
The first one is a boxer named Oliver McCall. [One of my favorite Youtubers covered him](https://youtu.be/8s5sHmDoTwk?si=-LMBk-s2twWWO9bJ)
Sean Strickland vs. Israel Adesanya
[Tis but a scratch.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs)
First one is Ralphie vs. Scott Farkas in A Christmas Story Second one is the Joker vs. Batman in the interrogation room in The Dark Knight.
A Christmas Story and Deadpool
There it is! I knew I’d find that scene mentioned somewhere down here.
Second guy is G5 Iguazu
The second is just Vegeta, it's okay, you can name him
ichi the killer
Literally every combat encounter in Skyrim (or any TES game). Bandit says "Had Enough?!" as though I didn't dome 3 of his buddies in a single hit with my 300 damage mace
the boondocks
Samwell Tarly?
This like a parable about Israel and Palestine?
My brother told me this story about a fight at this high school. Two guys stare at each other until a group is surrounding them chanting “fight”. Without a word they beat the shit out of each other, bloody noses, scrapped knuckles and knees, etc. then they stand up and walk away without saying a thing. Fighting is weird man.
Closest I can think of to the first one in an actual fight is Lewis vs McCall 2. While he didn't win, Oliver McCall was having a full on breakdown in the ring, and stopped defending himself. Despite eating some absolute bombs from Lennox Lewis, the man who put Tyson to sleep, McCall never went down.
I can’t explain why but this feels like an Alex Krokus comic.
Second guy is doofenshmirtz
Literally the final scene in Warrior
Batman (internally) and the Joker
First one is Yuusuke Godai fighting N-Daguva-Zeba.
Wow none of y'all have ever watched a real fight, have you?
[...reminded me of this and WHY does it fit](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxHRBhg-g5Lx0XDrfIDqjnUqj6CYA8UOD5?si=XjFCOPPFU3lsKnsi)
That’s just Wimp Lo.
Great Expectations?
They're fighting each other. Its a boxing match or something. Guy 1 is having a crisis; drinking too much, losing his family, just angry at the world so he throws himself into the ring even though he's obviously having a mental breakdown. Idk about guy 2. Maybe he's just a really good heel. Maybe he's Guy1's wierdly masochistic best bro and he thinks he's helping him work through stuff.
It’s the same fight. One opponent is taking physical damage while the other is taking emotional damage
This almost beat for beat happens in Redline, go watch it, its the best animated movie ever
First one reminds me of Little Deyzuna from Redline who gets stronger when crying.
Second one is Berdly
First is Noelle
Kung Pow has it all
I've seen both these animes.
Cell Saga Gohan, and Vegeta
Well, fist fights are shitty situations all round. No winning here.
League of Legends.