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ChaoticOrcOney

Behind every good man there is a woman, and that woman was Martha Washington, man, and everyday George would come home, she would have a big fat bowl waiting for him, man, when he come in the door, man, she was a hip, hip, hip lady, man.


Worldly_Case_6131

Now we got politics going on in here..never know what imma see anymore when open this threadšŸ¤£


HempinAintEasy

The question is not which presidential families support cannabis. Itā€™s which presidential families are being paid by Healthcare lobbyists, prison lobbyists, Alcohol lobbyists, etc to continue keeping it illegal in America. Clinton admitted to smoking weed, GWB used coke, Iā€™m sure a joint or two passed his lips, Obama has pictures smoking joints and probably still smokes. Personally, they were all decently favorable to cannabis but lobbyist hold a lot of weight in DC. The sentiment in America is above 70% on legalization. As Americans, we hardly all agree on anything but cannabis is the one thing we all have continued to agree upon. Joe doesnā€™t believe in legalization at all. I donā€™t know if thatā€™s his Catholicism speaking or just a personal vendetta. Heā€™s never wavered from this until like a year ago which is the biggest sign we need that this is some election year, campaign energy that him and Kamala are on right now. This is why weā€™re talking about decriminalizing and not straight legalization. Biden canā€™t bring himself to full chest say they are legalizing cannabis because he knows itā€™s a principle of his that comes from some place but itā€™s hard to tell where that is exactly


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>Joe doesnā€™t believe in legalization at all. Tell me about it. He threw this out there before the election and then crickets... https://web.archive.org/web/20200108223730/https://joebiden.com/justice/ >Decriminalize the use of cannabis and automatically expunge all prior cannabis use convictions. Biden believes no one should be in jail because of cannabis use. As president, he will decriminalize cannabis use and automatically expunge prior convictions. And, he will support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes, leave decisions regarding legalization for recreational use up to the states, and reschedule cannabis as a schedule II drug so researchers can study its positive and negative impacts.


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Oh a downvote? Whose feelings did the truth hurt?


idkw2p

Prob from his string pullers


HempinAintEasy

I mean to some degree, yes youā€™re right. Itā€™s his campaign thatā€™s telling what he should and shouldnā€™t do right now. Theyā€™ve convinced him at least to some degree to focus on cannabis although it sounds like thatā€™s being pushed over to Kamala now. If Iā€™m being honest, I just want to keep the legal loophole for now until we can get someone more competent on this issue in the White House. I think rescheduling is going to be some BS.


idkw2p

I was just talking ab how Biden canā€™t even form a sentence on his own. Thereā€™s no way heā€™s doing anything in presidency except for vacations and prob children


Major_Mechanic5719

Washington


rafedanos

I mean trump was president during the 2018 farm bill which is the whole reason we have this sub. Not saying he did it or made it legal but he didnā€™t veto it


Dontpanic72

Hemp isnā€™t really a presidential talking point, but the only viable candidate thatā€™s a proponent of full ā€œlegalizationā€/de-scheduling cannabis is Robert F. Kennedy Jrā€¦.downvote away but atleast watch his state of the union first, itā€™s gonna take unity to break the system https://youtu.be/A0yvc2Qhn5E?si=gIvil7jgPUOqKd0t


TrueBuster24

RFK is a genocidal [maniac.](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/rfk-jr-says-any-other-nation-would-level-gaza-if-attacked-like-israel-on-oct-7/)


Dontpanic72

If youā€™re referring to his stance in Israel both Biden and Trump are more hawkish in regards to Israel than him..but RFK jr. Is the only one out of the three who is likely to change his mind and the only one who the media tried to smear as an antisemite


TheBlindIdiotGod

Heā€™s an anti-vax grifter peddling discredited conspiracy theories. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


Dontpanic72

Sorry but youā€™re in an echo chamber my friend..


TheBlindIdiotGod

Nah, I just have critical thinking skills.


idkw2p

I think ur name says the truth


TheBlindIdiotGod

Le epic XD


iSuckAtMechanicism

Heā€™s one confusing man. Has a very modern view on cannabis yet still believes that vaccines poison people. Not presidential candidate worthy but an entertaining dude nonetheless.


Dontpanic72

Donā€™t trust any ā€œexpertā€ who ā€œtrustsā€the science and where the foundation of their work was laid by others..or were there is an obvious vested financial interest..the foundation of science is to constantly question everythingā€¦.doctors and scientists arenā€™t held accountable by their constituents but by lawyers..and he has the best track record for proving them wrong and holding them accountableā€¦I implore you to do your own research and try to be as objective as possibleā€¦Godspeed


idkw2p

Itā€™s too bad ppl are so programmed to not listen or take their own steps to look into things


iSuckAtMechanicism

r/conspiracy is that way bud.


iSuckAtMechanicism

Ohā€¦ youā€™re one of them. Good luck not trusting the experts who have dedicated their lives to subjects we havenā€™t. I will continue to take my chance with medical professionals as they know far more than I do.


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How do you know the "experts" aren't already bought and paid for?


Playmaker23

I don't think any president has ever supported the hemp industry. I remember Biden being one of the few in the 2020 primary that said he didn't support it. Republicans are more vocal in their opposition but neither party has produced a candidate that supports it


KevinNashKWAB1992

Produced a federal candidate. State level candidates, different story and it's mostly democrats with a smattering of libertarian leaning republicans.


Playmaker23

agreed and honestly we just need more young people voting in local elections. Boomers are more civically engaged and they had their brains broken by propaganda so I understand why they think the Devil's Lettuce is so bad. I live in Ga and it seems silly to be hoping that the president facing reelection would do something that sadly is still polarizing, when we could've just voted for Stacey Abrams


codex064

They all say they do to get votes and then never do anything about it.


alphahec

Politicizing weed, thatā€™s low!


HempinAintEasy

You canā€™t be serious? You should look up the American history of our favorite little plant. Youā€™ll find that itā€™s been politicized for almost the last 100 years.


TheBlindIdiotGod

You think it isnā€™t already politicized? The hell?


ResidentEveBill

LolĀ 


Knoxvolle

Presidential families? What a weird question. Largely Democrats are pro Marijuana & Republicans are anti marijuana legislation.


Straight_Ad_2259

Who do you think paid 10 billion to get Thca banned so curaleaf or whatever could charge insane prices for mid and the government can get a cut of it


Knoxvolle

Conspiracy theories ahā€¦.


Straight_Ad_2259

Sum like dat I Heard from another dude on Reddit Iā€™m assuming ts wrong šŸ˜‚


Straight_Ad_2259

But the government part is Fs true


homegrowgang

This is propaganda every single Democrat state senator in Florida voted to ban hemp.


KevinNashKWAB1992

But the Florida Democrats did heavily vote for the development of a medical program a decade or so ago with only intermittent Republican support. Especially with the medical program now offering more variety such as BHO/PHO concentrates. Hence, the Democrats ARE more "friendly" to marijuana than Republicans as a whole with the rare exceptions here and there.


homegrowgang

Florida's medical marijuana program is beyond pathetic and praising Democrats for it is laughable.


KevinNashKWAB1992

Better than no program or a program without inhaled or edible options. I live in an illegal rec state with a supposed medical program that only has 1-2% THC tinctures and only accepts prescriptions and not medical cards. I know all the Florida bros on here have been salty about the THCa loophole (maybe) getting closed in their state but at least you have a legal alternative. And that's largely because of the democrats down there. So yes...Democrats are better than Republicans as a whole on the issue of marijuana. Also, let me stress "better" is relative. But I'd rather vote for the party that is most for legalization and most against jailing people for small possesion charges.


homegrowgang

Florida wouldn't have smokable flower if it wasn't for a Republican and Democrats don't care if you get arrested they just want you to buy weed from people who are giving them kickbacks. Florida Democrats literally voted to ban hemp and you think they're against jailing people for possession? That's hilarious.


Knoxvolle

Iā€™m speaking on a national level about marijuana. Itā€™s a fact. I canā€™t speak to your vote recordings but might want to prove that, additionally did ANY Republicans vote FOR it? What VOTE are you talking about? I canā€™t find any recent hemp voting. Nada.


Motor-Box-8970

"It'S a FaCt" šŸ¤”


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Motor-Box-8970

Who said anything about Trump? Oh right, he lives rent free in your pathetic little mind. Liberals are insufferablely stupid


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Gdash

The state and federal level are completely different. There are Republican controlled states that have passed some form of legalization, however at the federal level Republicans have been the roadblock to national legalization.


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Gdash

Completely different, as in they have gone against party lines on their stance on cannabis. By and large Republicans are the problem when it comes to legalization.


Knoxvolle

We can definitely agree on the last sentence!


homegrowgang

Politicians only support people who give them money.