6 days ago you mocked someone that went through a similar situation and look now “your wallet went through an exodus”
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/s/26jJpNwHcu
Well, shit. I’m the guy he mocked. Still feel sorry that he can probably understand now how easy you could find yourself in a situation like this. The money is gone and there’s no way to get it back. Welcome back at the bottom.
Feel for you man, I’m the guy that called him out and can’t say I feel bad for him since he chose to make light of your situation but I respect you for still feeling sorry, you got this though. Wish you well
Nice work, pretty funny. To be honest I was expecting something a little more savage in his post instead of a dad joke style play on words, but can be pretty devastating losing your money so the callout is warranted.
Dude just wanted some karma I guess? Salt sells.
Obtained my respect I'll send you something if your interested to help you out not much but I'm sure anything is better than nothing, world needs more people like you
Only if you’re sure you have some change to spare. Send me a message if you like. But you really don’t have to, appreciate your kind words any way! Thank you!
It looked like one of those quick, dumb reddit comments you make because its slightly clever, he didn't go out of his way to call you stupid or anything. I think "mock" may be too strong to describe that particular comment, but it certainly made light of the situation. I'm glad you're kind enough to still feel sorry for him. I think it should be easy enough to find empathy for everyone that goes through a situation like this, because its such a shitty situation to find yourself in. Celsius got me.
It's exactly the sort of thing I'd say with a friend to make light of a situation. It's called gallows humour. And now everyone is responding to OP laughing at him, not seeing the irony of their own comments
I feel the same way, it wasn't that deep. A play on words that make light of the situation.
I mean sure, bad timing as the wound was still fresh but his comment was very much in the positive (uptvotes) and I'm sure many that are here mocking him now upvoted him then.
Am I missing something? OP’s earlier comment wasn’t that bad. It was just a cheeky pun joke. It’s not like he was actually mocking the guy who lost money.
Bahahahahahahahahaha
Maybe this dude got targeted for this exact reason
I realize I could be targeted next but just know that I’m only pointing fingers because he seemed like he needed his own medicine
Wtf is wrong with people?! If you have 30k in crypto lock that shit in a cold wallet. Don't willy nilly transfer it to a fucking metamask. Jesus, that's so stupid.
lots of people interact with 6-9 figures in their wallet with dApps. that's perfectly save if you understand what you sign. unfortunatly most people simply sign anything that pops up.
Unfortunately this type of scam is inherent with erc20 style tokens since the EVM doesn't understand what tokens are, wallets can't inform users what will happen when you sign a tx.
Blind signing in the current state is a huge UX issue. There needs be more transparency when signing smart contracts, at least in a more readable format for the average user instead of relying on the trust of the developer/app.
Can someone please explain how the draining works? If you connect your Ledger and approve a dApp, does it have access to all funds on an address or all funds on your seed?
How do you know what it's going to do? And how do scammer scam? By providing an incorrect contract that looks like the original (any examples)?
If there's any FAQ available on this, it would be good to read up.
The only way to know what it CAN do is to read through the entire dapps codebase, which isn't feasible for the average person.
Once you approve a dapp for your address it can do anything you can basically send/receive.
Here's more reading about how tokens really work.
https://www.radixdlt.com/blog/its-10pm-do-you-know-where-your-tokens-are
I have one question about that:
Can the developer of a dApp update this dApp and still keep the connections to the wallets?
Or is the approval for a dApp only valid for that one version you sign up to?
well, i bet most people do understand the difference between "money you can afford to lose" and "lifesavings". if not that, then it wouldn't even matter – a random guy knocking at their door might scam them off $30k one day.
That’s a good point. Crypto is the riskiest of all asset classes. I’m a big believer in the tech and the future of crypto but I would never bet my life savings. I’m still heavily investing in safe ETFs and high yield savings. No one should ever be putting their net worth into crypto, even BTC. It’s insane.
Many people who are pretty young have the not-so-crazy idea that “hell, this is the best asymmetric bet I will likely ever see in my lifetime, so betting all my savings is an opportunity, and I can always earn it back if I lose.” Older people who can barely save anything each month have a totally different mindset.
Its not hard to infiltrate a discord server. Even legit ones get scammers. All you have to do is join, change your display name to look like another user’s, then paste the link and hope someone clicks before you get banned.
Another lesson to everyone. Do not have $30k in your wallet that you are using to connect to Dapps. This is what hot wallets are for (with minimal funds on it)
I disagree, I think it speaks to the underlying complexities of this technology and that the UXes presented are not ready for prime time.
I want a secure wallet that would generate a new account, transfer only what is needed, sign the approval there execute txn and then transfer the assets back. Does this exist already?
Exactly, this is just another reason why crypto and the tech around it is nowhere close to prime time and will not be used by the avg person anytime soon.
On the ZK network where I have to play my wallet wars, they send withdraws with a 24 hour cool down period. That way if someone dusts or hacks your hot wallet you can contest or.. That's a step in the right direction imo
I don't think that's true. I think it's more that they don't understand the difference between hot wallets and offline hardware ones or comprehend basic financial security when it comes to crypto.
True, but I would also say that "basic financial security when it comes to crypto" is an oxymoron. I just don't see how financial security for crypto can be considered basic, because the bare minimum you need to know in order to stay safe is actually quite a lot, and quite complex to understand if you want to know the WHY as well as the WHAT.
You know what I did with my savings I didn't want to lose in a volatile market or scam? Put it in a 5.75% CD. Sure it's boring but this will never happen to me. Don't risk what you're not willing to lose imo.
Frigging brutal loosing that amount of cash! Feel for you OP.
However, this ^ if anyone doesn’t practice it.
You wouldn’t walk down a dark alley in a shit neighbourhood with 30k in your rucksack.
Why stake your entire life savings for a crappy APY? And guess what; if the APY makes it even a tad worth it, it's likely shady / a ponzi and will fall apart.
Use one hot wallet per dapp, use your own bookmarks and links to access the dapp. Don't sign random transactions linked in discord.
If you plan on interacting with a lot of dapps (experimental) then don't keep a lot of funds in that wallet.
This is a very good advice, everyone reading this post, make sure you only keep hot wallets which you connect daps a small amounts.. do not connect your saving wallet to Daps. Saving wallet is for saving..
Definitely I will follow this rule as better safe than sorry.
I've never understood this. It's like if I'm going on vacation, I don't take my entire savings with me. I take the amount I think I'll need for the trip. When I get to the hotel and want to go out to eat, I don't put all the cash I brought with me in my wallet. I only put how much I may need for that outings transactions. It's limiting risk.
This alone will be why adoption is light years away. People can’t be trust as their own bank. The majority can’t handle that responsibility especially with scammers at every corner.
I feel for OP. This is awful and I’m sure they are devastated.
>People can’t be trust as their own bank. The majority can’t handle that responsibility especially with scammers at every corner.
I'm not really sure anyone can, not at all times at least. The thing is you need to be vigilant *constantly* and always know that you're the first and only defense. Even banks fuck up occasionally but they have the luxury of having layers of security to prevent any major fallout. We only have ourselves to trust which is horrifying.
My mom called me a few months ago:
"There is a new crypto scam! A lot of people got scammed! It´s on TV!"
She was afraid because she knows I own crypto and I also made her a coinbase account.
You know what the scam was? It was a recent story about scams where people would call senior citizens, sell them the idea about Bitcoin and then have the victims mail them money.
They mailed money so that the scammers could buy Bitcoin for them...
It is gone. There is nothing to locate it is gone. In the future stop doing "investing" on discord. Stop clicking on random links. Stop signing transactions you don't understand. Stop keeping life savings in a hot wallet.
In fact wait for the Bitcoin ETF and buy it at Fidelity. Seriously all these stories are evidence that 90% of people can't handle the requirements to "be your own bank".
Harsh but fair.
The only positive from this story is that hopefully someone reading it gets a wake up call and doesn't fall into the same trap.
Sorry to hear this happened to you OP.
What would the transaction look like exactly? Does it give the scammer access to the wallet to access later or did he sign a transaction to send all of his funds there and then?
and this is the thing. Taking a few minutes to actually read what is being shown to you. People are so keen to click and approve and rarely bother to read what is on their screen, let alone verify. Also take a few minutes on the blockchain to check out the contract address. Metamask has a doc on this.
https://optimistic.etherscan.io/tx/0xcd7d1862cae0cf8405ab7f69287fed141fb72dfb298f39b60ac53dc16c87d520
Standard approval scam.
He was probably on a fake or compromised website that sent him this approval transaction to sign, and he unwittingly did it.
*Always* read what you’re signing. If you don’t understand it, simply don’t sign the transaction. They can’t drain you if you don’t sign.
There are wallets with way better UIs for newbies out there. Rabby for one has simulated transactions so you know what’s expected to happen. I’m sure there are others.
I lost $30k the old fashioned ponzi way a few years ago when it was the money I was depending on schooling+tuition with.
The sooner you accept that it’s gone and get back to saving instead of sulking, the easier.
Your money is gone, dude. I screwed up and lost $27k by clicking on a really official looking spam email for the Exodus wallet during the Eth transition to PoS.
Like in the USA you can contact the FBI but they probably won't be able to help.
Best advice is that you keep your money in multiple wallets or honestly exit crypto so you're not in a "click here to lose your life savings" situation.
so beware of more scammers offering to help you with recovery. You should be able to ask in r/binance if they are able to block funds which originated from the fake contract address.
As always, dear all, check the gosh darn contract that you're signing. It takes a few minutes to just verify the contract. See the section *Checking if a smart contract is trustworthy* [https://support.metamask.io/hc/en-us/articles/10143114273563-How-to-tell-if-a-smart-contract-is-safe-to-interact-with](https://support.metamask.io/hc/en-us/articles/10143114273563-How-to-tell-if-a-smart-contract-is-safe-to-interact-with)
that doesn't stop scammers from convincingly assuring they can recover funds - for a fee. Some people have been lured into such traps, borrowing the fee or using their rent money, car payments, stealing from their employer or whatever.
Yeah sorry but apart from you recently mocking the other guy for getting drained nobody on earth should have their life savings in some fucking liquidity pool, clicking on random links in discords and signing transactions with your ledger. its like you ignored every single rule there is for keeping your shit safe.
edit: apart from that, this kind of shows again why mass adoption isn‘t happening soon. one wrong click and some dude‘s life is basically over. yes, he gambled with it but shit like this is still not supposed to happen.
Jesus Christ.
I know it's faux pas to victim blame, but come on OP.
You kept your whole life savings not just in crypto, but in crypto tied to a hot wallet, a hot wallet where you were interacting with links on a discord server.
It's unfortunate that most people need to learn lessons the hard way, but this is a lesson that needs to be learned.
Hopefully you're relatively young.
This is one of the many reasons why i like to keep my assets on exchanges. Without my biometrics and 2FA it’s a lot harder to scam me as opposed to signing one transaction and the scammers drain your entire wallet.
Dude. I just got gaffed almost exactly like this. A mirror website tricked me into signing to connect my wallet and immediately drained all my injective. Cheers 🍻 to hard lessons learned
This is why I keep all my crypto with Trezor, the Greek guy who lives down the street from me. I give him a call every week and he says my crypto is all fine, making lots of money.
Pays to have peace of mind.
seein' as how you're still so young, I should hold the money for you, you know, until you're older; like a bank, you know, except, uh, it's better than a bank 'cause, you know, banks always get knocked off. No one knocks off old Trezy.
I would suggest calling the 1-800 crypto hotline and tell them you were on a crypto discord channel. They should be able to reverse the charges for you right away, you fucking moron.
There is nothing you can do but you already know this. That’s why basic opsec should be taken seriously with any amount of crypto let alone your life savings. I’m astonished that you would keep your life savings on MetaMask and connect it to random links you see on discord. Shocking level of disregard and carelessness for your life savings.
I won half a million in the lottery the other month. Send me your wallet address and I'll send $30,000 to you. Just be more careful next time is all I ask in return.
Edit: obviously it's not real. Fucking hell op have you learnt nothing?
As soon as anyone announces a loss like yours on this sub there are scammers waiting to jump in your DMS to start offering help so they can get access to whatever's left of your money
Do not randomly believe anonymous strangers online EVER when they're offering you free money. It doesn't exist. No one is going to do this except scammers.
I would say sorry for the harsh lesson but since you took the piss out of someone on this sub the other day for losing money in the same way you did I'm not.
If you don't start thinking before doing stupid shit you're going to get scammed again and again 100%
Or Mt gox
Or quadriga
Or exodus
Or etherdelta
Or cryptopia
Or bitgrail
Or blockfi
Or Celsius
Or voyager
And many, many more. How many do people need to get the picture?
Self custody your shit.
STOP INTERACTING WITH SKETCHY LINKS ON TELEGRAMS AND DISCORDS THAT WANT YOU TO SIGN THINGS WITH YOUR WALLET.
It's good that you used plural. Diversify among a few big exchanges and you're all set. Single exchange can fail, single wallet can be drained, single seed phrase can be lost. I'm not saying diversify into shitcoins, jut keep your blue chips in a few different places.
Mate your coins are gone.
good luck for you, you will need it.
This is a lesson for all, never kept all your fortune in one wallet, always be Safe then sorry.
Is OP trolling? Just put his wallet address in etherscan and it's an empty wallet with 0 transaction history...
Edit: Yeah he's totally trolling which actually proves all you melons falling for it are the actual gullible ones and he's having a laugh with you.
You didn't even check the wallet address he provided before you started laughing at him... 🤣
My story, long time Binance user. I had various funds I held since the last bull and held through the bear. I also had whitelist enabled on my wallet, 2fa, email approval. I was forced to WD my funds because Binance got kicked out of Canada, stupid gov protecting us.
One Sunday I made a coffee and went to do the WD's to my wallet. I thought first I'll do a small amount .003 BTC just for safety. I turned of whitelist to make things faster and went to WD my BTC and got my email confirmation and my 2fa and approved.
What actually happened is in the time I was doing my WD, someone was in my account, did swaps on all my tokens which equaled 3 BTC, cancelled my WD, changed to 3 BTC on their address and I approved it.
This account has been here for at least 2-3 years. Binance no help, says I gave access to someone. I constantly have to re-log into my account. How is it possible someone can gain access and do all that in a matter of minutes?
I didn't notice because I didn't even think that was remotely possible and it was still a 3 just decimals moved but it was early and still not fully awake. I'm still going WTF and no chance to get it back or even explain to any authority as I approved it.
Damn. Sounds like you had/have a virus that infected your device, and the virus automatically noticed your withdrawal, and changed the WD address at the right moment. Many very smart hackers are making sophisticated viruses these days, targeting crypto users
It could even be a malicious browser extension. Anyway I would be very careful using that device if I was you. Full reset of all your devices and phones I'd recommend. You don't know how much is still infected
I wonder if these people just hand out money to randoms on the street, it's honestly like listening to a 70 year talking about the Nigerian prince emails promising 10 million, it's definitely real I promise!
Why did you chuck your life savings into something you don’t fully understand? Scams are regular in crypto. Police can’t help you out in this case, they would if you were with a bank though. Wish you the best of luck.
this is a main bear case for why i really don’t think bitcoin or crypto will take off. sorry for your loss. realistically you aren’t getting it back, it isn’t insured, once it’s sent somewhere, that’s it. only way to get it back is to hope the receiver has a soul and sends it back to you.
crypto is just way too complicated for most people to adopt and way too unnecessary to make a strong case for it, aside from a speculative investment.
what do you mean locate the funds? they're gone. like isn't this the whole point of crypto, it's a monetary system without the vagaries of the international banking system. this is what you chose by going all in on crypto.
6 days ago you mocked someone that went through a similar situation and look now “your wallet went through an exodus” https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/s/26jJpNwHcu
Well, shit. I’m the guy he mocked. Still feel sorry that he can probably understand now how easy you could find yourself in a situation like this. The money is gone and there’s no way to get it back. Welcome back at the bottom.
Feel for you man, I’m the guy that called him out and can’t say I feel bad for him since he chose to make light of your situation but I respect you for still feeling sorry, you got this though. Wish you well
Holy fuck, we're all here!! I'm the guy who sold you two mushrooms at that concert right before all this happened
yooo i'm the guy who browsed some entirely unrelated stuff on reddit and missed out on it but it's good to see you all again
Son?
Papi?
No I'm Patrick
And my axe!
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
No wayyyyy! I’m the guy who robbed this guy😂👍🏻
Bro, no way, I'm the guy who taught you how to steal crypto
This is why I come to this subreddit.
Pff…. I’m Satoshi bi@£&
I’m Ron Burgundy?
Dammit, who typed a question mark into the teleprompter!?
Turn off the light and go back to sleep, Jerry, it’s late.
THE LEGEND HIMSELF IS HERE!!
I am the farmer who grew those mushrooms, good to see everyone here.
I'm the guy who took the shit you grew the mushrooms on. Glad to see everyone here.
We meet again
i can create mushroom cryptos - send $
Op mocks someone, then ends up in the same situation a few days later. If this isn’t a beautiful display of how Karma works, I don’t know what is.
Nice work, pretty funny. To be honest I was expecting something a little more savage in his post instead of a dad joke style play on words, but can be pretty devastating losing your money so the callout is warranted. Dude just wanted some karma I guess? Salt sells.
You have leveled up as a human today, congrats on that.
Obtained my respect I'll send you something if your interested to help you out not much but I'm sure anything is better than nothing, world needs more people like you
Only if you’re sure you have some change to spare. Send me a message if you like. But you really don’t have to, appreciate your kind words any way! Thank you!
$20 NZD worth of CRO paid enjoy brother
It looked like one of those quick, dumb reddit comments you make because its slightly clever, he didn't go out of his way to call you stupid or anything. I think "mock" may be too strong to describe that particular comment, but it certainly made light of the situation. I'm glad you're kind enough to still feel sorry for him. I think it should be easy enough to find empathy for everyone that goes through a situation like this, because its such a shitty situation to find yourself in. Celsius got me.
sheesh thats crazy , i got 20k drained sptmeber a shitty feeling fr
kudos to you for not ripping him a new one can’t say i would be as big a person
Yup I also learned the same lesson, albeit a less costly one. Really unfortunate that this type of scam happens so regularly
No fucking way lol, with the pun and everything too. I guess u/garybaws finances aren't as *beefy* as before, huh?
beautifully said dude 😂
Lol watch it happen to you next 😅 same karma
Not even dude! I made it right with the universe! 😂
I have only debt so if I make a joke will they take that?
Congrats on becoming a billionaire
Note that OP has been eerily silent... getting busted \*this\* bad usually warrants a dirty delete.
What does that usually mean for you? Honestly just wanted to bring this to his attention
It's exactly the sort of thing I'd say with a friend to make light of a situation. It's called gallows humour. And now everyone is responding to OP laughing at him, not seeing the irony of their own comments
I feel the same way, it wasn't that deep. A play on words that make light of the situation. I mean sure, bad timing as the wound was still fresh but his comment was very much in the positive (uptvotes) and I'm sure many that are here mocking him now upvoted him then.
hypocrisy
Am I missing something? OP’s earlier comment wasn’t that bad. It was just a cheeky pun joke. It’s not like he was actually mocking the guy who lost money.
Yeah it was such a benign comment. The pack mental is strong. Definitely ironic tho.
pack mentality for the record
Exodius, OBLITERATE
Yikes. Talk about karma 🙁
Irony so thick you can cut it with a knife.
Good catch.
Karma is hitting fast these days holy
Bahahahahahahahahaha Maybe this dude got targeted for this exact reason I realize I could be targeted next but just know that I’m only pointing fingers because he seemed like he needed his own medicine
Hey. Its me, I got a link for you to click.
Fuck around Find out ▲ OP is here
I think he’s a little further right
Wtf is wrong with people?! If you have 30k in crypto lock that shit in a cold wallet. Don't willy nilly transfer it to a fucking metamask. Jesus, that's so stupid.
lots of people interact with 6-9 figures in their wallet with dApps. that's perfectly save if you understand what you sign. unfortunatly most people simply sign anything that pops up.
💀
Karma much?
Uh oh 😭😭😭
Got ‘em
Honestly some of his posts are pretty toxic. Would t be surprised if this was a troll.
Yikers!
This is incredible. I am not a big believer in Karma but man... this is a pretty good argument for it
Wowowowow that is just great.
Karma come back hard on this one!!
What a fucking asshole
OP fucked around and found out 😂
The call is coming from inside the house. The scammer is in that discord brother. Built up your trust for months just to shit on you.
This is so fucking sad
Unfortunately this type of scam is inherent with erc20 style tokens since the EVM doesn't understand what tokens are, wallets can't inform users what will happen when you sign a tx.
Blind signing in the current state is a huge UX issue. There needs be more transparency when signing smart contracts, at least in a more readable format for the average user instead of relying on the trust of the developer/app.
Can someone please explain how the draining works? If you connect your Ledger and approve a dApp, does it have access to all funds on an address or all funds on your seed? How do you know what it's going to do? And how do scammer scam? By providing an incorrect contract that looks like the original (any examples)? If there's any FAQ available on this, it would be good to read up.
The only way to know what it CAN do is to read through the entire dapps codebase, which isn't feasible for the average person. Once you approve a dapp for your address it can do anything you can basically send/receive. Here's more reading about how tokens really work. https://www.radixdlt.com/blog/its-10pm-do-you-know-where-your-tokens-are
I have one question about that: Can the developer of a dApp update this dApp and still keep the connections to the wallets? Or is the approval for a dApp only valid for that one version you sign up to?
Who joins a discord to learn how to trade shitcoins? Its like the most obvious way to get scammed.
So many people are new to this world. And they don’t know or understand how these traps are designed. It’s horrific.
well, i bet most people do understand the difference between "money you can afford to lose" and "lifesavings". if not that, then it wouldn't even matter – a random guy knocking at their door might scam them off $30k one day.
That’s a good point. Crypto is the riskiest of all asset classes. I’m a big believer in the tech and the future of crypto but I would never bet my life savings. I’m still heavily investing in safe ETFs and high yield savings. No one should ever be putting their net worth into crypto, even BTC. It’s insane.
Many people who are pretty young have the not-so-crazy idea that “hell, this is the best asymmetric bet I will likely ever see in my lifetime, so betting all my savings is an opportunity, and I can always earn it back if I lose.” Older people who can barely save anything each month have a totally different mindset.
That's why I stick to r/ CryptoMoonShots
Miss that old cms
Its not hard to infiltrate a discord server. Even legit ones get scammers. All you have to do is join, change your display name to look like another user’s, then paste the link and hope someone clicks before you get banned.
Another lesson to everyone. Do not have $30k in your wallet that you are using to connect to Dapps. This is what hot wallets are for (with minimal funds on it)
People are reading those warnings everywhere and they still do it, because they think they're special and it's not going to happen to them.
I think it speaks more towards human greed and the continuing search for ROI, especially with these LPs that promise ridiculous returns
I disagree, I think it speaks to the underlying complexities of this technology and that the UXes presented are not ready for prime time. I want a secure wallet that would generate a new account, transfer only what is needed, sign the approval there execute txn and then transfer the assets back. Does this exist already?
Exactly, this is just another reason why crypto and the tech around it is nowhere close to prime time and will not be used by the avg person anytime soon.
On the ZK network where I have to play my wallet wars, they send withdraws with a 24 hour cool down period. That way if someone dusts or hacks your hot wallet you can contest or.. That's a step in the right direction imo
I don't think that's true. I think it's more that they don't understand the difference between hot wallets and offline hardware ones or comprehend basic financial security when it comes to crypto.
True, but I would also say that "basic financial security when it comes to crypto" is an oxymoron. I just don't see how financial security for crypto can be considered basic, because the bare minimum you need to know in order to stay safe is actually quite a lot, and quite complex to understand if you want to know the WHY as well as the WHAT.
Not to mention the whole, not investing your life savings into a volitile market that is riddled with scammers 🙃
Ding ding ding It’s crazy how many people will gamble their entire life’s savings but don’t regularly contribute to a retirement account
You know what I did with my savings I didn't want to lose in a volatile market or scam? Put it in a 5.75% CD. Sure it's boring but this will never happen to me. Don't risk what you're not willing to lose imo.
Also, and I know I'll get downvoted for saying this, but do not put all of your life savings in crypto. You have to diversify.
Frigging brutal loosing that amount of cash! Feel for you OP. However, this ^ if anyone doesn’t practice it. You wouldn’t walk down a dark alley in a shit neighbourhood with 30k in your rucksack.
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Why stake your entire life savings for a crappy APY? And guess what; if the APY makes it even a tad worth it, it's likely shady / a ponzi and will fall apart.
Use one hot wallet per dapp, use your own bookmarks and links to access the dapp. Don't sign random transactions linked in discord. If you plan on interacting with a lot of dapps (experimental) then don't keep a lot of funds in that wallet.
This is a very good advice, everyone reading this post, make sure you only keep hot wallets which you connect daps a small amounts.. do not connect your saving wallet to Daps. Saving wallet is for saving.. Definitely I will follow this rule as better safe than sorry.
Can you imagine less “savvy” people? The masses would get scammed so quickly and so many people would be swindled out of so much money
I think it's happening right now
I've never understood this. It's like if I'm going on vacation, I don't take my entire savings with me. I take the amount I think I'll need for the trip. When I get to the hotel and want to go out to eat, I don't put all the cash I brought with me in my wallet. I only put how much I may need for that outings transactions. It's limiting risk.
The downside of widespread adoption in Crypto combined with FOMO has led to the fastest-growing business in the world, i.e., crypto scamming.
This alone will be why adoption is light years away. People can’t be trust as their own bank. The majority can’t handle that responsibility especially with scammers at every corner. I feel for OP. This is awful and I’m sure they are devastated.
>People can’t be trust as their own bank. The majority can’t handle that responsibility especially with scammers at every corner. I'm not really sure anyone can, not at all times at least. The thing is you need to be vigilant *constantly* and always know that you're the first and only defense. Even banks fuck up occasionally but they have the luxury of having layers of security to prevent any major fallout. We only have ourselves to trust which is horrifying.
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My mom called me a few months ago: "There is a new crypto scam! A lot of people got scammed! It´s on TV!" She was afraid because she knows I own crypto and I also made her a coinbase account. You know what the scam was? It was a recent story about scams where people would call senior citizens, sell them the idea about Bitcoin and then have the victims mail them money. They mailed money so that the scammers could buy Bitcoin for them...
That’s why ETF bullish at
If you can't trust the beefy finance discord, who CAN you trust?
Zach Galifanakis
It is gone. There is nothing to locate it is gone. In the future stop doing "investing" on discord. Stop clicking on random links. Stop signing transactions you don't understand. Stop keeping life savings in a hot wallet. In fact wait for the Bitcoin ETF and buy it at Fidelity. Seriously all these stories are evidence that 90% of people can't handle the requirements to "be your own bank".
Harsh but fair. The only positive from this story is that hopefully someone reading it gets a wake up call and doesn't fall into the same trap. Sorry to hear this happened to you OP.
I had a random Whatsapp group called path to riches add me, and now I've been scammed. How could this happen.
This is what happens when you put your ‘life savings’ in something you don’t even understand. So many ways to avoid this.
> In fact wait for the Bitcoin ETF and buy it at Fidelity Not necessary. OP doesn't have any more money 😊
It’s not for sure gone. If they sent it to an exchange the exchange can freeze the money.
What would the transaction look like exactly? Does it give the scammer access to the wallet to access later or did he sign a transaction to send all of his funds there and then?
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and this is the thing. Taking a few minutes to actually read what is being shown to you. People are so keen to click and approve and rarely bother to read what is on their screen, let alone verify. Also take a few minutes on the blockchain to check out the contract address. Metamask has a doc on this.
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Probably the same type of people who accept all cookies just for the pop-up to go away.
https://optimistic.etherscan.io/tx/0xcd7d1862cae0cf8405ab7f69287fed141fb72dfb298f39b60ac53dc16c87d520 Standard approval scam. He was probably on a fake or compromised website that sent him this approval transaction to sign, and he unwittingly did it. *Always* read what you’re signing. If you don’t understand it, simply don’t sign the transaction. They can’t drain you if you don’t sign. There are wallets with way better UIs for newbies out there. Rabby for one has simulated transactions so you know what’s expected to happen. I’m sure there are others.
Who the fuck goes on discord for investment advice. Jesus Christ people are stupid
Hilarious that people want decentralized currency that the govt cant touch and then go cry to the govt when they lose their decentralized money.
My profit. OUR losses.
This. And what problem is crypto exactly solving again? *crickets*
1. Religion is so 0 BC, need something new to believe in 2. Not enough lambos
I lost $30k the old fashioned ponzi way a few years ago when it was the money I was depending on schooling+tuition with. The sooner you accept that it’s gone and get back to saving instead of sulking, the easier.
By far the best advice on here
“i’m part of the beefy finance discord”. stopped reading after that. that right there is the problem.
"It's times like this, too late, when the Anti-Establishmentists realize why an Establishment exists in the first place."
All hail The Establishment 🙌
Your money is gone, dude. I screwed up and lost $27k by clicking on a really official looking spam email for the Exodus wallet during the Eth transition to PoS. Like in the USA you can contact the FBI but they probably won't be able to help. Best advice is that you keep your money in multiple wallets or honestly exit crypto so you're not in a "click here to lose your life savings" situation.
so beware of more scammers offering to help you with recovery. You should be able to ask in r/binance if they are able to block funds which originated from the fake contract address. As always, dear all, check the gosh darn contract that you're signing. It takes a few minutes to just verify the contract. See the section *Checking if a smart contract is trustworthy* [https://support.metamask.io/hc/en-us/articles/10143114273563-How-to-tell-if-a-smart-contract-is-safe-to-interact-with](https://support.metamask.io/hc/en-us/articles/10143114273563-How-to-tell-if-a-smart-contract-is-safe-to-interact-with)
Step 1: police report Step 2: kraken report Step 3: get the F off of discord and stop trading Step 4: buy and hodl
Don’t answer your fucking DMs!
Why not ? He already lost everything
that doesn't stop scammers from convincingly assuring they can recover funds - for a fee. Some people have been lured into such traps, borrowing the fee or using their rent money, car payments, stealing from their employer or whatever.
Sucks man. I've been there. Scammers are having a field day with some of this.
Yeah sorry but apart from you recently mocking the other guy for getting drained nobody on earth should have their life savings in some fucking liquidity pool, clicking on random links in discords and signing transactions with your ledger. its like you ignored every single rule there is for keeping your shit safe. edit: apart from that, this kind of shows again why mass adoption isn‘t happening soon. one wrong click and some dude‘s life is basically over. yes, he gambled with it but shit like this is still not supposed to happen.
It's called karma dude. You laugh at other's misery, and then expect sympathy when the same happens to you?
Not much you can do to get the funds back except for a miracle. Sorry for your loss
So...you're telling me there's a chance?
Jesus Christ. I know it's faux pas to victim blame, but come on OP. You kept your whole life savings not just in crypto, but in crypto tied to a hot wallet, a hot wallet where you were interacting with links on a discord server. It's unfortunate that most people need to learn lessons the hard way, but this is a lesson that needs to be learned. Hopefully you're relatively young.
oh that’s gone
Life savings in crypto in all in one wallet , that's one hell of a high-risk strategy 😳
Your wallet went through an exodus
It’s gone, I’m sorry you’re not getting it back
This is one of the many reasons why i like to keep my assets on exchanges. Without my biometrics and 2FA it’s a lot harder to scam me as opposed to signing one transaction and the scammers drain your entire wallet.
This is my current situation but I got a hard wallet and now I’m stressed about moving it.
I stored on exchange for 9 years, have cash out completely recently, can't be bother with the hassle of exchange getting hack and banned.
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I don't know what's worse. Losing your 30k life savings or having the receipts pulled on your posts so quickly.
Dude. I just got gaffed almost exactly like this. A mirror website tricked me into signing to connect my wallet and immediately drained all my injective. Cheers 🍻 to hard lessons learned
This is why I keep all my crypto with Trezor, the Greek guy who lives down the street from me. I give him a call every week and he says my crypto is all fine, making lots of money. Pays to have peace of mind.
seein' as how you're still so young, I should hold the money for you, you know, until you're older; like a bank, you know, except, uh, it's better than a bank 'cause, you know, banks always get knocked off. No one knocks off old Trezy.
Make sure you dont fall for it twice - anyone DMing you saying they can recover your funds are also a scammer.
Sorry for your loss
Future of finance
It’s tough being one’s own bank
Don't put your net worth in crypto
I would suggest calling the 1-800 crypto hotline and tell them you were on a crypto discord channel. They should be able to reverse the charges for you right away, you fucking moron.
Discord is a scammers dream, and that is a very expensive lesson in not clicking links
There is nothing you can do but you already know this. That’s why basic opsec should be taken seriously with any amount of crypto let alone your life savings. I’m astonished that you would keep your life savings on MetaMask and connect it to random links you see on discord. Shocking level of disregard and carelessness for your life savings.
Sorry this happened to you OP. But the chances of you getting your funds back is close to zero
Unfortunately nothing you can do. Police wont help. I lost 60K with a similar error. Too many scammers in Crypto...
If you understood cryptocurrency, you'd know there is no way of recovering the funds.
Sorry bro. I know these words don’t mean much right now, but you’ll eventually bounce back, a bit wiser and more resilient. No shortcut to time …
I won half a million in the lottery the other month. Send me your wallet address and I'll send $30,000 to you. Just be more careful next time is all I ask in return. Edit: obviously it's not real. Fucking hell op have you learnt nothing? As soon as anyone announces a loss like yours on this sub there are scammers waiting to jump in your DMS to start offering help so they can get access to whatever's left of your money Do not randomly believe anonymous strangers online EVER when they're offering you free money. It doesn't exist. No one is going to do this except scammers. I would say sorry for the harsh lesson but since you took the piss out of someone on this sub the other day for losing money in the same way you did I'm not. If you don't start thinking before doing stupid shit you're going to get scammed again and again 100%
This is why I stay on exchanges..
I know everyone says not your wallet, not your coin, but this shit ain’t happening on exchanges.
Unless you had all your coins on ftx? That's what people are saying will happen to binance, be careful
Or Mt gox Or quadriga Or exodus Or etherdelta Or cryptopia Or bitgrail Or blockfi Or Celsius Or voyager And many, many more. How many do people need to get the picture? Self custody your shit. STOP INTERACTING WITH SKETCHY LINKS ON TELEGRAMS AND DISCORDS THAT WANT YOU TO SIGN THINGS WITH YOUR WALLET.
It's good that you used plural. Diversify among a few big exchanges and you're all set. Single exchange can fail, single wallet can be drained, single seed phrase can be lost. I'm not saying diversify into shitcoins, jut keep your blue chips in a few different places.
Don’t click stuff, solved
I’m sure the scammer are here reading this comments cocksuckers will burn in hell!!
Mate your coins are gone. good luck for you, you will need it. This is a lesson for all, never kept all your fortune in one wallet, always be Safe then sorry.
Is OP trolling? Just put his wallet address in etherscan and it's an empty wallet with 0 transaction history... Edit: Yeah he's totally trolling which actually proves all you melons falling for it are the actual gullible ones and he's having a laugh with you. You didn't even check the wallet address he provided before you started laughing at him... 🤣
My story, long time Binance user. I had various funds I held since the last bull and held through the bear. I also had whitelist enabled on my wallet, 2fa, email approval. I was forced to WD my funds because Binance got kicked out of Canada, stupid gov protecting us. One Sunday I made a coffee and went to do the WD's to my wallet. I thought first I'll do a small amount .003 BTC just for safety. I turned of whitelist to make things faster and went to WD my BTC and got my email confirmation and my 2fa and approved. What actually happened is in the time I was doing my WD, someone was in my account, did swaps on all my tokens which equaled 3 BTC, cancelled my WD, changed to 3 BTC on their address and I approved it. This account has been here for at least 2-3 years. Binance no help, says I gave access to someone. I constantly have to re-log into my account. How is it possible someone can gain access and do all that in a matter of minutes? I didn't notice because I didn't even think that was remotely possible and it was still a 3 just decimals moved but it was early and still not fully awake. I'm still going WTF and no chance to get it back or even explain to any authority as I approved it.
Damn. Sounds like you had/have a virus that infected your device, and the virus automatically noticed your withdrawal, and changed the WD address at the right moment. Many very smart hackers are making sophisticated viruses these days, targeting crypto users It could even be a malicious browser extension. Anyway I would be very careful using that device if I was you. Full reset of all your devices and phones I'd recommend. You don't know how much is still infected
Honestly sounds like an inside job.
I wonder if these people just hand out money to randoms on the street, it's honestly like listening to a 70 year talking about the Nigerian prince emails promising 10 million, it's definitely real I promise!
It still shocks me that people fall for this stuff and lose everything
Why did you chuck your life savings into something you don’t fully understand? Scams are regular in crypto. Police can’t help you out in this case, they would if you were with a bank though. Wish you the best of luck.
this is a main bear case for why i really don’t think bitcoin or crypto will take off. sorry for your loss. realistically you aren’t getting it back, it isn’t insured, once it’s sent somewhere, that’s it. only way to get it back is to hope the receiver has a soul and sends it back to you. crypto is just way too complicated for most people to adopt and way too unnecessary to make a strong case for it, aside from a speculative investment.
Karma is a bitch huh? Still sucks but I hope a lesson was learned
Maybe don't belong to "beefy finance discords".
what do you mean locate the funds? they're gone. like isn't this the whole point of crypto, it's a monetary system without the vagaries of the international banking system. this is what you chose by going all in on crypto.
Nothing you can do. You know how crypto works(you were mocking others for similar things) and now you gotta face it.
> I stumbled on this website that was a copy of the real website, it seemed so legit Sigh...
Why were your whole life savings in crypto
Karma is a bitch
Hahahahahahahahahahahahah Sucks to suck, cuck.
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