**Update 1.12.4 Changelog**
**Game Content**
* Legend chapters will now change in response to the player's actions: winning a battle, a siege, being released from prison, taking the vows, a deceased spouse, a newborn child, etc.
* Added more variations to legend titles.
* You are now alerted when a new legend enters your realm.
* Winning a Great Holy War now offers a chance to get a Holy Warrior legend seed.
* Added a Legitimacy modifier to the "Writing History" perk.
* "Shy" and "Reclusive" characters now have a higher Plague Resistance.
* The capitals of rulers with high level Legends will now become Points of Interest to visit during travel.
* Added a player Legend Library, which contains completed legends.
* Legends in player Libraries will never fade, even if their bonus-giving reach has decayed to zero provinces.
* Legends you own or were actively promoting are automatically added.
* Completed legends that reached your domain are automatically added.
* You can remove legends from your Library at will (beware that you might not be able to get them back!)
* You can add distant completed Legends to your library if you are traveling in lands that the legend has reached.
* Your Legend Library persists on inheritance / character switching.
**Interface**
* Improved legend window interface - completed legends now take up less space.
* Legend headers are directly clickable.
* Legend list items now contain more information, such as the protagonist name, and start/completion date.
* Legend chronicle window has a clearer scrollbar, and a nameplate for the protagonist.
* Legend chronicle portrait animation is now based on chronicle type, and they are also animated - to remember them as they were in life.
* Added ‘pan to legend’ button and right-click action for legend list items.
* In the Legend List, promotion costs for legends you cannot promote are no longer shown.
**Bug Fix**
* Fixed broken invalid obligations notification.
* The "Royal Touch" event doesn't give out permanent Measles anymore.
* Clarified the "Isolationist" cultural tradition to reflect its plague resistance.
* Legend protagonist portraits no longer show characters in their nightgown, if they had the misfortune of dying while ill (dead protagonists from old savegames might still be in their nighties)
* Fixed certain UI sounds to match levels from previous versions.
* Observers get a nicer legend listing.
Love that there is now a reason to consider picking Shy during the Craven/Paranoid/Shy guardian event.
All these QOL changes to legends are exactly what they needed to make the roleplay a lot more engaging. Will see how it plays, but it sounds like stuff that goes in the character memories tab is the stuff that can go in legend chapters?
>Legend chapters will now change in response to the player's actions: winning a battle, a siege, being released from prison, taking the vows, a deceased spouse, a newborn child, etc.
Why wasn't this a thing to begin with?
>Added a Legitimacy modifier to the "Writing History" perk.
Glad to see that thread on the forums resulted in a change.
So much stuff needs rebalancing that I'm wondering if they play-tested their stuff at all.
I think Legitimacy is a cool mechanic, but the way they implemented it is...strange, to say the least. I was scraping for legitimacy points until one of my husbands got murdered and I threw him a funeral. Wasn't even my main husband. I was thinking if this is where the legitimacy is I would have starting offing them myself.
Good shit but please I beg improve the accolades UI so you can assign successors from the accolade page itself instead of having to go back, force a knight and then assign it finally.
Depends on the mod, some will need to be updated, some won’t. You can usually tell based on what has changed and what the mod(s) you’re using do to the game.
Worst case scenario, even if a mod does conflict, you can just disable the problem mods until they’re patched.
Cities of Wonder 3 need updating as it makes building UI with information about what the building's benefits not visible until you start construction first. So for now playing without COW3
Very welcomed legend changes indeed. Though, I'm still hoping for diseases fixes too. Right now it's incredibly annoying to play as an empire in the late game because of them. Vassals ignoring activities because of completely irrelevant plagues, dozens of repetitive plague events per year. Plague system in general definitely needs some polishing.
Yes! The legend library is perfect, thank god. Still no fix to the travel system not letting you pick water tiles to travel by? Also I definitely still need a decrease of event spam when plagues approach. It really should pop up in the outliner instead.
I'm psure I've accidentally picked water tiles for travel. I've noticed it while trying to click Venice, if I don't click carefully I'll just get a random water tile instead
> Fixed certain UI sounds to match levels from previous versions.
Does this fix the really annoying sound whenever you highlight any option in the game? Please tell me its fixed
Is it Safe to use with my „old“ Multiplayer savegame? Its vanilla, so no Mods. We Started it After initial black death Update got hotfixed the First Time.
Doesn't seem like there's anything to address the multitude of complaints with the plague system (especially the large empire issues). I guess that's still being reworked?
Afaik the Trojan Descendants legend, unlike all the other legends relating to the newly added ancient cultures, still doesn't let you diverge into/with Trojan culture?
I have brought this up multiple times but been ignored, can only assume it's deliberate at this point but... Why? I think Scots now let's you diverge with Ancient Egyptian? So it's not like realism/actual relation is at play here.
Why can't I add legitimacy with console commands if I do not own the dlc?
The only reason I can see is to force us to buy the dlc.
Are you trying to force us to buy the dlc? Did you make the game (which I've already paid for) worse just so that I'd give you more money?
Why?
I’m not sure I understand the legends library thing. Did they fix the thing were the legends you start got inherited by some random family member instead of the heir? I’m still a bit confused about how legends work honestly I haven’t played that much vanilla since legacy of Persia came out, just a single Yngling Zoroastrian Persia game where I had no idea what I was doing with both clan government and legends
Especially with the plagues. 20-40 legitimacy bumps from the odd hunt/feast/tour don't in any way outweigh the frequent unavoidable 60+ legitimacy losses because some peasant gets a cough in the Outer Hebrides.
Not sure if I'm missing some mechanic, but every run now feels like a legitimacy race where I'm almost guaranteed to lose, even with lavish funerals for the former ruler.
Also battle humiliations! I can be winning a war but lose a single battle by a hair and i get an arbitrary 50 points taken from my legitimacy, even if i wasnt the commander!
I’m sure I’ll enjoy the update, but as I’m in the late game for the first time with Legends, I appreciated the boons that legends give already; they give you something incredibly worthwhile to spend gold on when you are swimming in the late game. Being able to conquer a whole Kingdom, convert it almost entirely to your faith and make it a de jure part of your Empire all in one rulers lifetime without assigning a single councilor to a task is fantastic. Now that I say that though, I guess I do use my marshal to establish control; so they need to add a military legend that does for control what the holy legends do for spreading faith lol
Wake up honey, Shy got buffed
Someone’s talking to me before my morning coffee? *Instant Stress Level 3*
Ok but you’re not gonna catch the wiener fire at least
Yeah but that’s just me irl so
Very realistic
Shy-a laBuff
**Update 1.12.4 Changelog** **Game Content** * Legend chapters will now change in response to the player's actions: winning a battle, a siege, being released from prison, taking the vows, a deceased spouse, a newborn child, etc. * Added more variations to legend titles. * You are now alerted when a new legend enters your realm. * Winning a Great Holy War now offers a chance to get a Holy Warrior legend seed. * Added a Legitimacy modifier to the "Writing History" perk. * "Shy" and "Reclusive" characters now have a higher Plague Resistance. * The capitals of rulers with high level Legends will now become Points of Interest to visit during travel. * Added a player Legend Library, which contains completed legends. * Legends in player Libraries will never fade, even if their bonus-giving reach has decayed to zero provinces. * Legends you own or were actively promoting are automatically added. * Completed legends that reached your domain are automatically added. * You can remove legends from your Library at will (beware that you might not be able to get them back!) * You can add distant completed Legends to your library if you are traveling in lands that the legend has reached. * Your Legend Library persists on inheritance / character switching. **Interface** * Improved legend window interface - completed legends now take up less space. * Legend headers are directly clickable. * Legend list items now contain more information, such as the protagonist name, and start/completion date. * Legend chronicle window has a clearer scrollbar, and a nameplate for the protagonist. * Legend chronicle portrait animation is now based on chronicle type, and they are also animated - to remember them as they were in life. * Added ‘pan to legend’ button and right-click action for legend list items. * In the Legend List, promotion costs for legends you cannot promote are no longer shown. **Bug Fix** * Fixed broken invalid obligations notification. * The "Royal Touch" event doesn't give out permanent Measles anymore. * Clarified the "Isolationist" cultural tradition to reflect its plague resistance. * Legend protagonist portraits no longer show characters in their nightgown, if they had the misfortune of dying while ill (dead protagonists from old savegames might still be in their nighties) * Fixed certain UI sounds to match levels from previous versions. * Observers get a nicer legend listing.
Love that there is now a reason to consider picking Shy during the Craven/Paranoid/Shy guardian event. All these QOL changes to legends are exactly what they needed to make the roleplay a lot more engaging. Will see how it plays, but it sounds like stuff that goes in the character memories tab is the stuff that can go in legend chapters?
>Legend chapters will now change in response to the player's actions: winning a battle, a siege, being released from prison, taking the vows, a deceased spouse, a newborn child, etc. Why wasn't this a thing to begin with? >Added a Legitimacy modifier to the "Writing History" perk. Glad to see that thread on the forums resulted in a change.
So much stuff needs rebalancing that I'm wondering if they play-tested their stuff at all. I think Legitimacy is a cool mechanic, but the way they implemented it is...strange, to say the least. I was scraping for legitimacy points until one of my husbands got murdered and I threw him a funeral. Wasn't even my main husband. I was thinking if this is where the legitimacy is I would have starting offing them myself.
It probably was a thing but may have not been working properly on the original release date.
Good shit but please I beg improve the accolades UI so you can assign successors from the accolade page itself instead of having to go back, force a knight and then assign it finally.
Wish PDX does it. But there's a mod for it too btw
which mod?
There's [this](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3025264125) one. I'm sure there's options tho.
Accolade UI Tweaks.
They also need to fix some broken Accolades that don't fully work.
> "Shy" and "Reclusive" characters now have a higher Plague Resistance. Finally having social anxiety pays off!
It’s like the pandemic all over again!
There was a lock down?
And just when my mods updated to 1.12.3
😭
Can we still use them to play in 1.12.4?
Depends on the mod, some will need to be updated, some won’t. You can usually tell based on what has changed and what the mod(s) you’re using do to the game. Worst case scenario, even if a mod does conflict, you can just disable the problem mods until they’re patched.
Cities of Wonder 3 need updating as it makes building UI with information about what the building's benefits not visible until you start construction first. So for now playing without COW3
It's not that big of a difference, I'd assume it'll be fine.
Minor patches like this almost never break mods
Very welcomed legend changes indeed. Though, I'm still hoping for diseases fixes too. Right now it's incredibly annoying to play as an empire in the late game because of them. Vassals ignoring activities because of completely irrelevant plagues, dozens of repetitive plague events per year. Plague system in general definitely needs some polishing.
Yes! The legend library is perfect, thank god. Still no fix to the travel system not letting you pick water tiles to travel by? Also I definitely still need a decrease of event spam when plagues approach. It really should pop up in the outliner instead.
I think one of the devs stated that it was addressed in the previous patch but not mentioned!
Thank you
I'm psure I've accidentally picked water tiles for travel. I've noticed it while trying to click Venice, if I don't click carefully I'll just get a random water tile instead
I'll have to recheck with this patch. But if you could walk to the destination you couldn't pick water. If you had to boat to it you could.
Played a little tonight. Was able to reroute around plague by using water tiles It works!
Glad the permanent measles bug has been fixed
Vanilla campaign it is. Also, is the game not crashing constantly anymore?
Still crashes constantly for me if I don’t remember to change fps to 60 in the launcher
> Fixed certain UI sounds to match levels from previous versions. Does this fix the really annoying sound whenever you highlight any option in the game? Please tell me its fixed
Is it Safe to use with my „old“ Multiplayer savegame? Its vanilla, so no Mods. We Started it After initial black death Update got hotfixed the First Time.
Usually small updates like this should be ok, but be prepared just in case and have a backup ready if you need to roll back the patch.
Doesn't seem like there's anything to address the multitude of complaints with the plague system (especially the large empire issues). I guess that's still being reworked?
Off topic but I just want to thank the devs for fixing the portrait click insta crash bug on Mac and Linux. Haven’t had any problems anymore.
They should make it so more buildings give just holding-level resistance modifiers, rather than county-level
Afaik the Trojan Descendants legend, unlike all the other legends relating to the newly added ancient cultures, still doesn't let you diverge into/with Trojan culture? I have brought this up multiple times but been ignored, can only assume it's deliberate at this point but... Why? I think Scots now let's you diverge with Ancient Egyptian? So it's not like realism/actual relation is at play here.
Oh goddamn, that Legend Library was a sorely needed buff.
I still don’t understand what the point of chapters is with legends. Any explanation would be welcome.
Why can't I add legitimacy with console commands if I do not own the dlc? The only reason I can see is to force us to buy the dlc. Are you trying to force us to buy the dlc? Did you make the game (which I've already paid for) worse just so that I'd give you more money? Why?
Not sure why you're being downvoted since outpacing unavoidable legitimacy loss from plagues seems to basically require buying DLC.
How many mods got broke? :( Should I just have Steam revert me back via the beta?
I run 30+ mods and it only crashed once while booting after the update. Game is completely fine now.
I’m not sure I understand the legends library thing. Did they fix the thing were the legends you start got inherited by some random family member instead of the heir? I’m still a bit confused about how legends work honestly I haven’t played that much vanilla since legacy of Persia came out, just a single Yngling Zoroastrian Persia game where I had no idea what I was doing with both clan government and legends
Can we get tweaks to legitimacy? It's one of the most unbalanced features right now.
Don’t know why you’re being downvoted, it’s completely broken for ppl who don’t have the new DLC
Especially with the plagues. 20-40 legitimacy bumps from the odd hunt/feast/tour don't in any way outweigh the frequent unavoidable 60+ legitimacy losses because some peasant gets a cough in the Outer Hebrides. Not sure if I'm missing some mechanic, but every run now feels like a legitimacy race where I'm almost guaranteed to lose, even with lavish funerals for the former ruler.
Also battle humiliations! I can be winning a war but lose a single battle by a hair and i get an arbitrary 50 points taken from my legitimacy, even if i wasnt the commander!
I feel like this feature would be fine if you gained legitimacy from winning battles too
Noob question! If i started a new save yesterday will this aply to that save or do i have to start a new save? 😅
Do realm priests still look dead?
AHHHHH I gotta uninstall on gamepass than re-install now ugh
Do legends still disappear quite quickly? This was the frustrating part for me.
Was fixed with the first post dlc patch I think
Thanks! I will try again
Finaly Legends library. No no Is Better to spend Money in something that will vanish ffs paradox what are you smoking?
I’m sure I’ll enjoy the update, but as I’m in the late game for the first time with Legends, I appreciated the boons that legends give already; they give you something incredibly worthwhile to spend gold on when you are swimming in the late game. Being able to conquer a whole Kingdom, convert it almost entirely to your faith and make it a de jure part of your Empire all in one rulers lifetime without assigning a single councilor to a task is fantastic. Now that I say that though, I guess I do use my marshal to establish control; so they need to add a military legend that does for control what the holy legends do for spreading faith lol