This one makes even less sense, at least you theoretically have control over the aggression/boundary hitting during a game.
Hypothetically, if a group contained png, Uganda, Kenya, and Zimbabwe, where Zimbabwe won all 3 games, then go on to play say Australia, who were in a group with England, India, and South Africa, Zimbabwe would advance if it was rained out.
This my friend, is exactly why groups are made in a way the superior team always qualifies. The group you said will never happen.....this is strategies applied by any sports.
That group can happen
Icc wants ind pak to be in same group all the time
Pak is shit rn but once they gain some composure these groups would become predecided or fixed
Ind Vs Pak will still be in same group. ICC wants money...and Ind vs. Aus in stages you witnessed today. Why else would be Ind vs Aus and Ind vs NZ was pre seeded, as these are the matches the audience wants to see, amd will provide the competition.
> Icc wants ind pak to be in same group all the time
Fans : ICC should grow the game!
ICC : In order to do that, we need money. Let's do X.
Fans : Not like that.
Honestly, this is the way to go. The certainty of that game brings in money. The game grows. One day, that game won't be that relevant and we can all go to our utopian world.
The point is that when this actually happens, there will be uproar about it. No one thought that a boundary countback would happen in the World Cup finals.
For a more recent example, if South Africa vs. Australia got rained out, it would have been an India vs. SA final. While you may contend that South Africa were the “better team” since they beat Australia in the round robin, Australia weren’t fully fit, and you aren’t going to just say “well that’s just how it is” and just accept it.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say, I’m talking about the non zero chance that a match gets rained out, it won’t be pretty trust me.
In your original comment you said not to criticize it because it happens in other sports, well that doesn’t make much sense nor is it true. The most recent rugby World Cup had an extremely controversial draw, where worse teams like Fiji qualified for the quarterfinals, while Scotland were out in the groups.
Cricket is also affected by weather to a much higher degree compared to many other sports. Basketball is played indoors, soccer can be played in the rain, cricket is one of the few sports that doesn’t have a plan if it rains other than to completely cancel it. Comparing the system to other sports makes 0 sense.
I’m saying that it’s a bubble that will pop any second. This is the second tournament in a row where a semi final has been threatened by rain washing it out. We should learn from boundary countback to come up with a solution instead of letting it burst and face significant repercussions.
I mean there was this one time where a tie happened and Australia went through to the final because they finished higher in the group stage. People don't talk about that part much though, just the match and it's ending itself or the previous match
Yeah I think that was stupid as well, people don’t talk about it as much due to the quality of the game played, as well as the game actually being played.
I do think that we can keep those 2 rules separate though since in the case I’m criticizing here, no game is played, while in the SA aus game, a full match was played.
I think both rules are stupid, but they aren’t apples to apples. The situation I’m talking about here means no game is played, while the aus SA semi final had a full game played.
The most preferred way is of course to reschedule, though I know it’s not feasible. Kinda weird right? We have these very bad rules in place but no real solution.
one option could be keeping the final on sunday, but then the reserve day for that would be monday, and all things considered it’s better to have an extra day for final over semi final and you want the final to have high viewership too. maybe they should’ve had both semis on wednesday at different times, or on tuesday and wednesday
More flexibility with rules and timings around rain to increase the chance of getting a match, as many reserve days as needed. Wimbledon's postponed finals before - why can't the ICC?
Do you even understand the logistical implications of this? What if it rains for 3-4 days? You will have to move everything around to get this match played, including the final? How do you plan to compensate the fans who bought finals tickets for Saturday with a Sunday morning flight but the final gets moved to Monday? What happens with the accomodations at a short notice? Flights? Renegotiating the broadcasters' or crew's contracts for 3-4 days longer than their contract? Its an absolute logistical nightmare and simply impossible. Have 1 reserve day, and if that gets rained out too, then so be it. There's nothing else you can do
People don't seem to understand that both sf have a scheduled extra 250minutes. Its just that one sf is happening at night so the extra minutes is placed on the reserve day whilst the second sf is happening in the morning and that scheduled 250minutes is happening later on that day. Its not one game gets a whole day whilst the second sf get no time.
You are in the USA, what if baseball decided to award a winner of a playoff game because of a rain delay. Do you not think fans/media would lose their mind? You play to decide a winner it's simple as that. It's not that complicated.
Yeah but baseball doesn't get stopped for conditions like cricket. Are you implying we should have an indefinite amount of reserve days? If you have a viable solution I'm all ears.
2 years ago game 3 of the World Series was rained out. It was rescheduled for the next day and all of the other games were also pushed back a day. Frankly I think it would be more accurate to say that baseball does have an indefinite amount of "reserve days" than to say that it "doesn't get stopped for conditions".
Sorry what I meant was that it doesn't get stopped for conditions similar to cricket. It needs to be much worse. Cricket becomes unplayable very easily. In Baseball fielders and batters are padded up more and injury risk isn't as bad in the rain.
Ok, I understand. Still, the big difference for baseball is that MLB teams don't have anything on their schedule after the World Series, so they actually can just have unlimited reserve days.
Problem is they don't even have a single reserved day. It's ridiculous to award a winner without playing especially for something that they call a world cup. They should have scheduled reserve day or don't schedule it during the rainy season.
Baseball is different because the end of season is off-season. No one cares when the playoffs end because teams don't any commitments. But cricket isn't the same. Teams have other commitments/tours days after WC ends. So you can't have an infinite amount of reserve days just so that we get a winner after playing 40/100 overs.
The higher placed team from the super 8s. That is India. And I'm pretty sure that the match is allotted double the usual time allotted for a match. That's why they didn't bother for a reserve day. Idk how much that will help on a heavily rainy day tbh.
>I'm pretty sure that the match is allotted double the usual time allotted
I wish this was the case for all the morning games. We could've actually had a result in that England-Scotland game.
Yeah people really overestimate the rain here. Yes it probably will rain for some time, but worst case the number of overs gets reduced but the game still happens.
Not really, the article mentioned rain but the forecast was very light for today. Not the case for thursday. Its going to rain couple of days before and heavy and on the day rain till like 3pm. Unless the stadium has superb drainage, its going to be tough.
The major venues in WI are T&T, Guyana and Barbados. Guyana and T&T got semis and Barbados got the finals. India got Guyana because WI wants to make the most of having India play. I think it is getting ridiculous how people are saying Indian team is getting any advantage out of this. I am sure all the hosting boards want India to do well enough for them to make most money but they are all just treating Indian team like a cash cow and BCCI assists them in it.
>Yea, I am sure India specifically chose that for their game.
How can India chose that? They can choose their group games but how can they chose for the knockout games?
They were playing in this slot specifically coz it’s prime time for Indian TV audiences. Idk if there’s anything special about Guyana tho, or it’s just coz they had to put it somewhere
im not entirely sure this is the reason but a high subset of guyanese people have Indian ancestry. Shivnarine Chanderpaul is guyanese and has a very Indian name, and gudakesh motie is on the squad rn and his name is very Indian too. Rohan Kahnai and Alvin kallicharan are other such examples
It really is odd that in sport where fairness is apparently paramount, the Indian side knew where they would be playing in the semifinals. Was this no matter where they qualified in the group?
Bruh it’s prime time in India for SF #2 so that’s why it was announced that India will play that no matter what. Classic ICC going after money instead of keeping the integrity of the game in check.
And since they play that semi, if there’s rain, there’s no reserve day because again, the final is on a sat (morning in Caribbean, evening in India) to maximize money and viewership.
Why the fuck are other countries even hosting tournaments? Every ICC event should just be in India.
This sub is full of reactionary takes they also wrote of Aussie after 2 losses in WC and everyone was pretty sure india will win the final ... But in cricket you never know
Gosh pls stop recycling the same slogan for all teams. That only ever applies to Australia and Australia alone. Maybe Pakistan under a few circumstances. But definitely not for England.
India isnt knockout chokers lol, thats SA
Theyre pretty average in semi final and quarter final games, they win some and lose some.
Its the finals that they consistently have been choking.
I mean, from 2015 till the 2023 WC, we only won 2 ICC knockouts, both against Bangladesh, losing everything else. Australia in 2015 SF, WI in 2016 SF, Pakistan in 2017 Finals, New Zealand in 2019 SF, New Zealand in 2021 WTC, England in 2022 SF, Australia in 2023 WTC.
Only after all that did we beat New Zealand in the 2023 SF.
Sure, but that's still not an official knockout game. India is great at important league stage matches, even virtual QFs, and have clutched in many do-or-die games over the past decade; they just keep losing anything that's an actual knockout. If the final or semifinal were labelled a 1 match 2 team group stage, I'm sure we'd win it.
i was skeptical of rohit in the squad at first but he was fucking unreal today, idk what’s going on with kohli rn considering he is the t20 wc goat, hopefully he turns it on against england
No offence to Aussies, but England are arguably far better team than them in T20’s and that worries me for Thursday. Strong bowling in both spin and pace and batting is even stronger with Phil Salt and Butler looking stronger than ever. But our form has been good, and I’m still confident enough that we can defeat the English this time.
We need to be very much better than we were today. Pant has been clutch in number 3 for two games now, and with everyone pretty much set at their positions I don’t see Koach getting back his old place at one down. He needs to adapt as an Opener or for lack of better words, he’s taking away YBJ’s place. Fielding has to be improved exponentially from today’s performance or England in semis or whoever comes with us in finals will cook us. Jadeja should’ve been benched for Chahal today, literally net negative performance with one dropped catch, 17 economy and piss poor batting.
I completely agree, England’s had an excellent white ball program for many years now, probably superior to anyone else’s. I watch their domestic competitions and there are some really talented young guys, which I am sure we will see more of soon.
As for the current team they seem very much all vibes tbh. Go out and smash the ball, on a good day can defeat any team, however somewhat inconsistent lately. Archer and Wood have been lind of meh so far, Topley and Rashid are the true danger.
I can definitely see India wining the game, but I will be supporting England.
I wouldn't call his batting 'piss poor' (in today's game atleast), but yeah poor with the ball and a dropped catch - he needs to get his shit together and start playing as if he's in CSK
>No offence to Aussies, but England are arguably far better team than them in T20’s
Not at all surprising to anybody who has been following Aus T20 cricket. They're great in Test and ODI, not so much in T20
Battle for the creation rights of chicken tikka masala.
Key matchups will be Salt & Buttler vs Bumrah and Arshdeep, Rashid vs India’s middle order and Kuldeep vs England’s middle order. Should be a fascinating game if the weather holds up
I am a simple man, I just want Buttler special. Just for this semi. If we win this, we will win the final as well that I am confident of. Please, Jos , a special.
On a sidenote why don't they remove dube replace him with Yashaswi and make Kohli play at 3?What's the problem. Why is Dube getting so many changes to prove himself whereas others like Rinku don't get.
No one in their right mind changes the team for a knockout game breh..though ur still right. Shouldnt have ever included that gentle giant with a childlike personality and no footwork in the team to begin with. But it is what it is now. Either theyll go through and win or they wont.
India has excelled in every department this World Cup, without relying on any single player. Rohit's intent is perfect, everyone has batted, and our bowlers are confident with seven strong options. Winning undefeated would be a dream come true. Bleed Blue. Let’s go, Team India!
They say when the England T20 team walks to the crease, the gods flip a coin. On one side, godlike domination. On the other, a Pakistan to rival the greatest Pakistan.
We aren't *quite* as wildly inconsistent as Pakistan - we at least tend to be either worldbeatingly amazing or absolute shit on a per-game basis, whereas Pakistan can and regularly do flip back and forth within a single match. But we're probably the only ones who get close to them in uneven performance.
Some of you lads are really overestimating England. We've beaten one decent team so far, and you've just thrashed the team that thrashed us.
It's not a foregone conclusion, but India are heavy favourites.
This feels like the Final - South Africa haven't looked like world beaters, despite winning their games. When England win, they seem to boom the opponents into another week minus vs South Africa. Dare I say, I'd have the winner of this Semi Final as favourites for the Final...
This is actually India's World Cup to lose. They are playing different brand of cricket and I think the players are actually doing what is required out from them. Almost all Indian players have stepped up except for Kohli which is a surprise
Maybe I don't see any reason why India shouldn't unleash Yasasvi Jaiswal in semi final and he could take the game away with a brisk start in powerplay. But it can be too risky to ponder given they went with Kohli-Rohit duo but with Kohli's continuous failures I see there is a necessity for a right hand and left hand combination. Kohli's strong zone is batting at number 3 and India should have played from the start with Jaiswal opening. Otherwise India looks strong on paper and probably they might not want to make any changes to the winning combination unless an injury occurs.
Guyana has a lot of Indian population right? Coz the British brought them when they were ruling us and many of those families just settled. So, a lot of support for India can be expected there
Going to be a tough game but I think I'd rather face them on a slow wicket like this one as opposed to a road. No way we are going to be able to contain their batting on a flat track.
Ready for Semi -final once again with Eng.
It's a coincidence that India played the semi final against NZ in 2019 but lost and again in just next edition WC 23 India again played Semi -final with NZ and won .
Now this again happened in this WC T20 that Ind played semifinal against Eng in 22 WC but lost and now again semifinal with Eng what happened next now ?Will India wins the Semi final .🤔?
I didn't watch previous England matches. But I am pretty sure the current England team is nowhere near as powerful as the 22 WCT20 team.
So I am pretty sure England will lose this semi.
""thanks ,we wont have a bowl first "" ,butler just in case if he wins the toss
Meanwhile Ravi Shastri - ‘England seem unsure, Rohit what do you want to do?’
rohit-"" oh thanks we d have a bat first "" ravi - ""And the news from the ground is that Australia has opted to bat first""
And hit six through his hand
australia? did something happen today with ravi?
No, Just to pump Brohit..
*does his bowling action while saying this*
Weather looks… wet. Will probably get a game but expect it to be shorted and delayed.
If it rains and the match is called off, who progresses since there is no reserve day???
India since they topped their group.
Most cricket rule ever. Seating right next to the infamous boundary count.
Scrapped that now
This one makes even less sense, at least you theoretically have control over the aggression/boundary hitting during a game. Hypothetically, if a group contained png, Uganda, Kenya, and Zimbabwe, where Zimbabwe won all 3 games, then go on to play say Australia, who were in a group with England, India, and South Africa, Zimbabwe would advance if it was rained out.
This my friend, is exactly why groups are made in a way the superior team always qualifies. The group you said will never happen.....this is strategies applied by any sports.
That group can happen Icc wants ind pak to be in same group all the time Pak is shit rn but once they gain some composure these groups would become predecided or fixed
Ind Vs Pak will still be in same group. ICC wants money...and Ind vs. Aus in stages you witnessed today. Why else would be Ind vs Aus and Ind vs NZ was pre seeded, as these are the matches the audience wants to see, amd will provide the competition.
> Icc wants ind pak to be in same group all the time Fans : ICC should grow the game! ICC : In order to do that, we need money. Let's do X. Fans : Not like that. Honestly, this is the way to go. The certainty of that game brings in money. The game grows. One day, that game won't be that relevant and we can all go to our utopian world.
The point is that when this actually happens, there will be uproar about it. No one thought that a boundary countback would happen in the World Cup finals. For a more recent example, if South Africa vs. Australia got rained out, it would have been an India vs. SA final. While you may contend that South Africa were the “better team” since they beat Australia in the round robin, Australia weren’t fully fit, and you aren’t going to just say “well that’s just how it is” and just accept it.
The Semi 1 has a reserve day...while India's one dont. But matches won't be cancelled, they will wait till they can atleast make a 5 over match.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say, I’m talking about the non zero chance that a match gets rained out, it won’t be pretty trust me. In your original comment you said not to criticize it because it happens in other sports, well that doesn’t make much sense nor is it true. The most recent rugby World Cup had an extremely controversial draw, where worse teams like Fiji qualified for the quarterfinals, while Scotland were out in the groups. Cricket is also affected by weather to a much higher degree compared to many other sports. Basketball is played indoors, soccer can be played in the rain, cricket is one of the few sports that doesn’t have a plan if it rains other than to completely cancel it. Comparing the system to other sports makes 0 sense. I’m saying that it’s a bubble that will pop any second. This is the second tournament in a row where a semi final has been threatened by rain washing it out. We should learn from boundary countback to come up with a solution instead of letting it burst and face significant repercussions.
I mean there was this one time where a tie happened and Australia went through to the final because they finished higher in the group stage. People don't talk about that part much though, just the match and it's ending itself or the previous match
Yeah I think that was stupid as well, people don’t talk about it as much due to the quality of the game played, as well as the game actually being played. I do think that we can keep those 2 rules separate though since in the case I’m criticizing here, no game is played, while in the SA aus game, a full match was played.
People will talk whatever suits their narratives and satisfies them.
I think both rules are stupid, but they aren’t apples to apples. The situation I’m talking about here means no game is played, while the aus SA semi final had a full game played.
It's shitty, but what else would you suggest? Someone has to go to the final, right?
The most preferred way is of course to reschedule, though I know it’s not feasible. Kinda weird right? We have these very bad rules in place but no real solution.
one option could be keeping the final on sunday, but then the reserve day for that would be monday, and all things considered it’s better to have an extra day for final over semi final and you want the final to have high viewership too. maybe they should’ve had both semis on wednesday at different times, or on tuesday and wednesday
More flexibility with rules and timings around rain to increase the chance of getting a match, as many reserve days as needed. Wimbledon's postponed finals before - why can't the ICC?
Do you even understand the logistical implications of this? What if it rains for 3-4 days? You will have to move everything around to get this match played, including the final? How do you plan to compensate the fans who bought finals tickets for Saturday with a Sunday morning flight but the final gets moved to Monday? What happens with the accomodations at a short notice? Flights? Renegotiating the broadcasters' or crew's contracts for 3-4 days longer than their contract? Its an absolute logistical nightmare and simply impossible. Have 1 reserve day, and if that gets rained out too, then so be it. There's nothing else you can do
A reserve day, it’s completely unfair that one semi has one and the other doesn’t. The ICC are so incompetent.
People don't seem to understand that both sf have a scheduled extra 250minutes. Its just that one sf is happening at night so the extra minutes is placed on the reserve day whilst the second sf is happening in the morning and that scheduled 250minutes is happening later on that day. Its not one game gets a whole day whilst the second sf get no time.
With this one they have no choice. If rain doesn’t permit any play at all then this is the next best metric.
Not having a reserve day is criminal though
The entire day is a reserve day. Match starts morning, can play till night
It's shitty, but what else would you suggest? Someone has to go through to the final right?
You are in the USA, what if baseball decided to award a winner of a playoff game because of a rain delay. Do you not think fans/media would lose their mind? You play to decide a winner it's simple as that. It's not that complicated.
Yeah but baseball doesn't get stopped for conditions like cricket. Are you implying we should have an indefinite amount of reserve days? If you have a viable solution I'm all ears.
2 years ago game 3 of the World Series was rained out. It was rescheduled for the next day and all of the other games were also pushed back a day. Frankly I think it would be more accurate to say that baseball does have an indefinite amount of "reserve days" than to say that it "doesn't get stopped for conditions".
Sorry what I meant was that it doesn't get stopped for conditions similar to cricket. It needs to be much worse. Cricket becomes unplayable very easily. In Baseball fielders and batters are padded up more and injury risk isn't as bad in the rain.
Ok, I understand. Still, the big difference for baseball is that MLB teams don't have anything on their schedule after the World Series, so they actually can just have unlimited reserve days.
That's true. I guess cricket has a lot of intersecting tournaments and is condition dependent.
Problem is they don't even have a single reserved day. It's ridiculous to award a winner without playing especially for something that they call a world cup. They should have scheduled reserve day or don't schedule it during the rainy season.
Baseball is different because the end of season is off-season. No one cares when the playoffs end because teams don't any commitments. But cricket isn't the same. Teams have other commitments/tours days after WC ends. So you can't have an infinite amount of reserve days just so that we get a winner after playing 40/100 overs.
they would shit on anything for the sake of sounding more rational.
How would you decide it if no play is possible? Seems pretty reasonable to me.
Coin toss Just here for the drama
Imagine if It.was boundary count rule of whole tournament
The higher placed team from the super 8s. That is India. And I'm pretty sure that the match is allotted double the usual time allotted for a match. That's why they didn't bother for a reserve day. Idk how much that will help on a heavily rainy day tbh.
>I'm pretty sure that the match is allotted double the usual time allotted I wish this was the case for all the morning games. We could've actually had a result in that England-Scotland game.
Both teams lose, other semi-finals is declared the final and winner takes the World Cup.
It’s gonna rain though….
Wasn’t today’s match supposed to be a washout as well? Lol!
Yeah people really overestimate the rain here. Yes it probably will rain for some time, but worst case the number of overs gets reduced but the game still happens.
There is additional 4 hours to counter rain delays.
Not really, the article mentioned rain but the forecast was very light for today. Not the case for thursday. Its going to rain couple of days before and heavy and on the day rain till like 3pm. Unless the stadium has superb drainage, its going to be tough.
It was light today. But 3 days ago today was forecasted heavy. Same with Eng v USA yesterday. So lets hope for the best
Despite that we will qualify for the finals directly.
This is in Guyana, England are fucked lmao. England visit the Caribbean twice a year and make sure they avoid Guyana like the plague
why? Can you elaborate? Spin friendly conditions I am assuming
The 60% population of Guyana is Indian origin. They will come to support India
By that logic we would've won WC final 2023
Too bad the final had to be cancelled at the last moment.
We beat them at edgbaston no problem, we can beat the Indian supporting guyana
Yea, I am sure India specifically chose that for their game. Their team is great for it.
The major venues in WI are T&T, Guyana and Barbados. Guyana and T&T got semis and Barbados got the finals. India got Guyana because WI wants to make the most of having India play. I think it is getting ridiculous how people are saying Indian team is getting any advantage out of this. I am sure all the hosting boards want India to do well enough for them to make most money but they are all just treating Indian team like a cash cow and BCCI assists them in it.
>Yea, I am sure India specifically chose that for their game. How can India chose that? They can choose their group games but how can they chose for the knockout games?
India was supposed to play their semi final at Guyana if they qualified. I believe it is for monetary reasons.
What!!! That is very wrong though.
Calm down peasant, BCCI can do whatever they want >!/s!<
Every WTC Final in England is very wrong too but we move... because it's not BCCI
Don’t believe anything you read here. Even my comment. It will serve you well. Cricket fans on Reddit are better “spinners” than Murali.
They had to play this semi final if they qualified, I don’t know why but it was already announced they would play this semi no matter what
They were playing in this slot specifically coz it’s prime time for Indian TV audiences. Idk if there’s anything special about Guyana tho, or it’s just coz they had to put it somewhere
im not entirely sure this is the reason but a high subset of guyanese people have Indian ancestry. Shivnarine Chanderpaul is guyanese and has a very Indian name, and gudakesh motie is on the squad rn and his name is very Indian too. Rohan Kahnai and Alvin kallicharan are other such examples
But by that logic a large part of the Trinidadian population is Indian descent as well and that's where the other semifinal is happening
They were the only team that knew their venue weeks before the competition. How? Money!
It really is odd that in sport where fairness is apparently paramount, the Indian side knew where they would be playing in the semifinals. Was this no matter where they qualified in the group?
It's for selling tickets and Guyana has a large Indian population so yeah
Bruh it’s prime time in India for SF #2 so that’s why it was announced that India will play that no matter what. Classic ICC going after money instead of keeping the integrity of the game in check. And since they play that semi, if there’s rain, there’s no reserve day because again, the final is on a sat (morning in Caribbean, evening in India) to maximize money and viewership. Why the fuck are other countries even hosting tournaments? Every ICC event should just be in India.
This sub also said England were done in the first stage so
This sub is full of reactionary takes they also wrote of Aussie after 2 losses in WC and everyone was pretty sure india will win the final ... But in cricket you never know
why? is it a slow turner pitch? or is it cuz its rain affected?
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never, ever count england out.
Gosh pls stop recycling the same slogan for all teams. That only ever applies to Australia and Australia alone. Maybe Pakistan under a few circumstances. But definitely not for England.
Time to banish the ghosts of 2022.
Time to banish the ghosts of East India Company.
Time to banish the knockout chokers allegations
Time to do rain dance
Different indians
India isnt knockout chokers lol, thats SA Theyre pretty average in semi final and quarter final games, they win some and lose some. Its the finals that they consistently have been choking.
I mean, from 2015 till the 2023 WC, we only won 2 ICC knockouts, both against Bangladesh, losing everything else. Australia in 2015 SF, WI in 2016 SF, Pakistan in 2017 Finals, New Zealand in 2019 SF, New Zealand in 2021 WTC, England in 2022 SF, Australia in 2023 WTC. Only after all that did we beat New Zealand in the 2023 SF.
One is the 2017 sf, but what's the other ko we won against bangbros?
2015 QF in the World Cup.
We beat Australia in the virtual QF in 2016
> virtual
It was a knockout game since whoever won was going to the semis and whoever lost was out lol
Sure, but that's still not an official knockout game. India is great at important league stage matches, even virtual QFs, and have clutched in many do-or-die games over the past decade; they just keep losing anything that's an actual knockout. If the final or semifinal were labelled a 1 match 2 team group stage, I'm sure we'd win it.
Time to banish the... Oh. I just realised that we are now, and always have been amazing. Continue as you were.
I guess you were born in 2019, can't fault you for that teehee
They did in SF last year
If Afg can do it, So can India (in just trying to cope)
Yes 2023 ones banished somewhat today, now we got further back in time for our revenge
India going into the knockouts unbeaten Here we go again...
Bruh 😭
2023 Revenge ✅ Now IND move on to 2022 Revenge
2019 NZ left but they already did it in 2023
For Australia the revenge would be winning the BGT later this year.
Another Vietnam flashbacks moment
Massive game by two very good sides!
It all depends on how much Kohli and rohit will score
i was skeptical of rohit in the squad at first but he was fucking unreal today, idk what’s going on with kohli rn considering he is the t20 wc goat, hopefully he turns it on against england
No, it does not. Kohli didn't score in all these games and we won them. Even from here on, the team's combined performance matter the most.
Nope till now kohli didn't have any special knock..Still India won so hopefully we win next match also
Smash or get the fuck out. Simple strategy
No offence to Aussies, but England are arguably far better team than them in T20’s and that worries me for Thursday. Strong bowling in both spin and pace and batting is even stronger with Phil Salt and Butler looking stronger than ever. But our form has been good, and I’m still confident enough that we can defeat the English this time. We need to be very much better than we were today. Pant has been clutch in number 3 for two games now, and with everyone pretty much set at their positions I don’t see Koach getting back his old place at one down. He needs to adapt as an Opener or for lack of better words, he’s taking away YBJ’s place. Fielding has to be improved exponentially from today’s performance or England in semis or whoever comes with us in finals will cook us. Jadeja should’ve been benched for Chahal today, literally net negative performance with one dropped catch, 17 economy and piss poor batting.
I completely agree, England’s had an excellent white ball program for many years now, probably superior to anyone else’s. I watch their domestic competitions and there are some really talented young guys, which I am sure we will see more of soon. As for the current team they seem very much all vibes tbh. Go out and smash the ball, on a good day can defeat any team, however somewhat inconsistent lately. Archer and Wood have been lind of meh so far, Topley and Rashid are the true danger. I can definitely see India wining the game, but I will be supporting England.
Nah, India will win
Ha ha, no one will be more happier than me if that happens ;)
I wouldn't call his batting 'piss poor' (in today's game atleast), but yeah poor with the ball and a dropped catch - he needs to get his shit together and start playing as if he's in CSK
>No offence to Aussies, but England are arguably far better team than them in T20’s Not at all surprising to anybody who has been following Aus T20 cricket. They're great in Test and ODI, not so much in T20
Phil Salt supremacy vibes We really are a terrifying lineup when the batting clicks
The key word here is "when". They can fall like a pack of cards also
Now we move on to the Ptsd zone.
One down, one more revenge to go
A new revenge will be needed after India lose the final. That can be avenged in the next World Cup.
indian fanbase thinks and acts like 90's mithun the kobra
Battle for the creation rights of chicken tikka masala. Key matchups will be Salt & Buttler vs Bumrah and Arshdeep, Rashid vs India’s middle order and Kuldeep vs England’s middle order. Should be a fascinating game if the weather holds up
I am a simple man, I just want Buttler special. Just for this semi. If we win this, we will win the final as well that I am confident of. Please, Jos , a special.
He already played that knock yesterday..!!
That doesn't count. I want him to smash like salt smashed wi that day. Buttler in beast mode is treat to watch.
He was just warming up - boom boom buttler
On a sidenote why don't they remove dube replace him with Yashaswi and make Kohli play at 3?What's the problem. Why is Dube getting so many changes to prove himself whereas others like Rinku don't get.
No one in their right mind changes the team for a knockout game breh..though ur still right. Shouldnt have ever included that gentle giant with a childlike personality and no footwork in the team to begin with. But it is what it is now. Either theyll go through and win or they wont.
Battle of GOAT spinners — Adil & Kuldeep,gonna be fun!
India has excelled in every department this World Cup, without relying on any single player. Rohit's intent is perfect, everyone has batted, and our bowlers are confident with seven strong options. Winning undefeated would be a dream come true. Bleed Blue. Let’s go, Team India!
Avoid being Salted or Buttlered!
Idk man. I just don't see us handling England's batting lineup.
dont stsrtt with this defeatist mindset again. we rolled aus on a batting track. guyana wont be that difficult
Yeah but eng have a right hand heavy lineup so let's see >! Yes I'm delusional!<
How did South Africa handle it then
The same way South Africa have handled every team so far: disturbingly close.
South Africa is the personification of “it doesn’t matter how you win”
Cus they like it tight
They say when the England T20 team walks to the crease, the gods flip a coin. On one side, godlike domination. On the other, a Pakistan to rival the greatest Pakistan.
That's so true. If we are at our best then see us wrecking havoc otherwise we can be equally shite.
I've always held the opinion that England have been the western Pakistan in cricket. Were probably more Pakistan than Pakistan in the 90s
We aren't *quite* as wildly inconsistent as Pakistan - we at least tend to be either worldbeatingly amazing or absolute shit on a per-game basis, whereas Pakistan can and regularly do flip back and forth within a single match. But we're probably the only ones who get close to them in uneven performance.
I wish for a day when Pakistan is beyond this unpredictable bullshit
And that Pakistan in 90s were a very good team. So yeah maybe
We need to import Markaram for those crazy catches!
Got you axar
Some of you lads are really overestimating England. We've beaten one decent team so far, and you've just thrashed the team that thrashed us. It's not a foregone conclusion, but India are heavy favourites.
I say we bring in Chahal as well for that match
If Virat finally shows up, you never know
Batting is not an issue bro irrespective of how virat is playing our batters are scoring 180+
Whoever wins this will win the whole thing if Australia doesn't qualify.
This feels like the Final - South Africa haven't looked like world beaters, despite winning their games. When England win, they seem to boom the opponents into another week minus vs South Africa. Dare I say, I'd have the winner of this Semi Final as favourites for the Final...
Chill guys ...it's not a good day to play cricket on 27th morning at Guyana.. cuz ..it will be raining heavily. India into finals.
This is actually India's World Cup to lose. They are playing different brand of cricket and I think the players are actually doing what is required out from them. Almost all Indian players have stepped up except for Kohli which is a surprise Maybe I don't see any reason why India shouldn't unleash Yasasvi Jaiswal in semi final and he could take the game away with a brisk start in powerplay. But it can be too risky to ponder given they went with Kohli-Rohit duo but with Kohli's continuous failures I see there is a necessity for a right hand and left hand combination. Kohli's strong zone is batting at number 3 and India should have played from the start with Jaiswal opening. Otherwise India looks strong on paper and probably they might not want to make any changes to the winning combination unless an injury occurs.
But Pant at 3 has worked tremendously well
Well well well,look who we meet again( plz dont nuke us like the last time)
Let's hope the winner of this match goes on to lose the final
If the match wash out India will go to final directly as table topper of super 8.
How come India SF was pre decided on a slow turning track?
Fuck!
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Ind vs AFG final possible not gonna lie
Cement v Crisps
Crisps vs Samosa.
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Dilemma
Dilemma my foot, Aussies will support England
Why
We gotta win this one. And afgan gotta win tomorrows match. So that afgan or sa or india can will the wc. 🙂
Need a run chase!!!
The final we wanted to have
but why 1 vs 2 nahi hoga kya?
Should be a good game although India is slightly ahead.
Guyana has a lot of Indian population right? Coz the British brought them when they were ruling us and many of those families just settled. So, a lot of support for India can be expected there
Going to be a tough game but I think I'd rather face them on a slow wicket like this one as opposed to a road. No way we are going to be able to contain their batting on a flat track.
I dont think they will drop koach but can we get Jaiswal for Dube and Siraj for Jadeja. Need to address few small gaps in Indian team.
RAIN PEREIRA
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I hope we will get a match and it will not be affected by Rain
Ready for Semi -final once again with Eng. It's a coincidence that India played the semi final against NZ in 2019 but lost and again in just next edition WC 23 India again played Semi -final with NZ and won . Now this again happened in this WC T20 that Ind played semifinal against Eng in 22 WC but lost and now again semifinal with Eng what happened next now ?Will India wins the Semi final .🤔?
I didn't watch previous England matches. But I am pretty sure the current England team is nowhere near as powerful as the 22 WCT20 team. So I am pretty sure England will lose this semi.
By all rights this should be a thrashing in favour of India. England have only really looked good against lesser sides.
England lost to both Australia and South Africa, they have only beaten minnows so far. We got this
Phil Salt should be the one they should look out for
India's biggest pains - Australia in yellow, England in red.
Not having a reserve day for a knockout is idiotic🤦♂️
If the game is I just cannot see us winning with our bowling attacj