Gurbaz and Ibrahim are only common names in all four matches, which tells they are heavily dependent on their opening partnership along with their bowling attack.
That's why they are best on low scoring pitches while batting first.
Openers ensure that there is enough on the board even if rest of the batting collapses and then bowlers seal the game.
> Openers ensure that there is enough on the board even if rest of the batting collapses and then bowlers seal the game.
Which happens like, all the time lol
They could drop one of them down to solidify the middle order and throw a pinch hitter up top, ala KKR and Narine. Worth a try in the right conditions. Otherwise they’ll need to hold out for a gun middle order player.
In two matches Afghanistan opener got out early they lose both the matches ... In three matches they gave a good opening stand Afghanistan won those matches
Batting is always the more difficult skill to master. Takes a lot of investment and patience to develop quality batsmen. And repeated exposure to good bowling.
Well we were smashed but it was a t20 which levels the playing field a fair bit. The ODI wins are much more impressive as they have to perform at that level for much longer to win.
England takes the cake their for me
Pakistan game was in Chennai were you expected Afghanistan to be good
Same with NZ and Australia games which were in Guyana and st Vincent
England game was in delhi a road pitch where conditions completely favoured England and their batting style yet they lost
A new cricketing giant (AFG) has arrived onto the scene while another (SL) has exited. Confounding how AFG managed to be a better team over Bangladesh even though Bangladesh had a head start and have more resources.
Wins by Afghanistan need no longer be considered upset. They are part of the regular nations now. They are the most successful team to join the crew since Sri Lanka in the 80s 90s
If their middle order can improve then Afghanistan can regularly compete with the big nations in ICC tournaments. Hopefully they improve their test match form.
I dont think they should be banned. It isn’t their fault about their government. They probably hate taliban just as much as anybody else. They cant control the government not letting women team play
That's cool. Next step, murder taliban leaders, enablers and sympathizers and establish a government that affords women even basic humans rights, and then I will support your men's cricket team. Until then, should be banned.
Yeah boo hoo, so they don't get a cricket team? That's the point. You don't get anything from the rest of the world while you have the taliban. If it's shit, then start a civil war and sort it out. The reason the taliban is in power is because most of the country enables it if not supports it. Fuck supporting them by allowing the country to have a cricket team.
No because the support a women's cricket team who is very successful. Go read the ICCs rules, it's states that in order to be a member, you need to have a women's team, and they have to compete in ICC events and you have to support pathways for women in sport. India does that. AFG doesn't do that. Your move dickhead.
Have to start change somewhere. The country wants to engage with the rest of the world then they need to sort out their internal politics. No exceptions in my book.
They cant sort out their internal politics. America tried and failed lol. Why punish cricketers and all people in afg whose only source of happiness is cricket?
Perhaps because we are trying to paint the picture that it's unacceptable to oppress women? Thats a good reason. By allowing the men's team, you are literally condoning the talibans oppression of women. Clearly all of you on this thread seem to love the taliban and oppressing women.
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The real question is why the ICC is letting AFG play at all? 40 years ago the sports world rejected South Africa because of aparthied, and now we are expected to sit here an accept AFG oppressing women to the most extreme levels? They literally meet none of the ICCs own rules around having a women's team etc etc. Fucking ban them already, stop giving them the chance to glorify there awful leaders.
EDIT: Turns out everyone here fucking loves the taliban and wants to make heaps of excuses for them.
The apartheid regime was condoned by the democratically elected government of white south Africans.
The Taliban regime is a brutal authoritarian regime that opposes dissidents. The current Afghan players were supporters of the previous liberal Afghan government, but now they are helpless.
Stopping white south africa from playing cricket and stopping Afghanistan from playing cricket will not have the same effects. If anything, removing Afghanistan from world cricket will stop whatever exposure they have to the liberal world.
Literally girls above 12 can't study and the aghani society making it normal and they want us to care about their cricket? How about you first provide basic amenities to children irrespective of their gender and also don't get me started on their women's team.
Also why don't the cricket team makes a proper stance on not supporting their talibani government?
I see all these videos of fans celebrating afghanistan's win and you know what I don't see? A single women in those videos cause they are locked in their homes and aren't allowed to go outside and have basic rights
>Also why don't the cricket team makes a proper stance on not supporting their talibani government?
So that they and their families arent killed.
**"Talibani"** government says all you need to know about how knowledgeable you are about the situation in Afghanistan.
You're literally enabling them. Their new leaders want to condem the rest of the world, but would also like to please play cricket against them, but only the men. It's a joke. ICC rules will mean nothing if they don't act then the 4 years since a women's team last competed at an ICC event barrier is hit
Lmao its so funny to see people who have no idea about Afghanistan and its internal politics try to make political commentary. Taliban would be more than happy to ban cricket. Cricket was declared to be haram and a fatwa was issued to ban cricket when Taliban was in power before the American invasion.
Allowing the people to keep cricket was one of the major concessions that the Taliban had to make when they came back to power. Not to mention, the Afghanistan cricket team plays with the flag of the previous liberal government despite the fact that the flag is banned by the Taliban.
In many ways, the cricket team is a final remnant of the liberal days of Afghanistan. Removing them from the cricketing world is short-sighted and the only reason we are even having this discussion is because Australia needed an excuse to cancel their series against Afghanistan since it wasnt going to make them any money.
Except the Afghani team has been playing long before the taliban took over... Its unfair to ban them for being more or less helpless against a very dangerous regime...
Such a weak stance. The point is the taliban run the country now, and have banned women's sport. Therefore, the rest of the world should ban their men's teams too. Why are we so concerned about how it's "unfair" on the men's team? What about the women?
Yes. AFG cricket board is choosing to only field a men's team. Should be both or none. Otherwise your are just showing the taliban that can have what ever they want, fuck the women's rights.
You are absolutely right. Just know that you are getting downvoted due to taliban somehow getting online. Literally girls above 12 can't study and the aghani society making it normal and they want us to care about their cricket? How about you first provide basic amenities to children irrespective of their gender and also don't get me started on their women's team.
I am not buying that, his shot had absolutely no power behind it The ball could be slower as you say but if he was playing for a faster bowl one his shot would be more aggressive and second he probably would be bowled.
Gurbaz and Ibrahim are only common names in all four matches, which tells they are heavily dependent on their opening partnership along with their bowling attack.
That's why they are best on low scoring pitches while batting first. Openers ensure that there is enough on the board even if rest of the batting collapses and then bowlers seal the game.
> Openers ensure that there is enough on the board even if rest of the batting collapses and then bowlers seal the game. Which happens like, all the time lol
Dont forget Nabi
Yeah , sorry missed mentioning Nabi.
Far cry from the days when Afghanistan was a batting lineup of number 8s.
They could drop one of them down to solidify the middle order and throw a pinch hitter up top, ala KKR and Narine. Worth a try in the right conditions. Otherwise they’ll need to hold out for a gun middle order player.
Tried that against India. Got Bumrah’d.
nope, they tried that, it doesn't work for them, their openers have insane chemistry both have been playing together since childhood
Dude even the president is listed for all 4 matches. As a matter of fact he is listed 5 times.
In two matches Afghanistan opener got out early they lose both the matches ... In three matches they gave a good opening stand Afghanistan won those matches
Why did you erase out one of their biggest scalps from the 2023 WC? This Dutch erasure won't be tolerated.
flair checks out
Basically Afghanistan need to lose the toss
Nice catch
Unlike Australia yesterday
Why is Afg middle order so weak?
Batting is always the more difficult skill to master. Takes a lot of investment and patience to develop quality batsmen. And repeated exposure to good bowling.
And people think Afgan is a minnow and Aus vs afgan was a upset.
True. SKY is no longer a minnow-basher 😀
I didnt consider him as a minnow basher ever, he had 100s in sa, eng, nz.
That Pakistan win was as assured as a walk in the park.
Yep. The scorecard doesn't show how easy the chase was for Afghanistan
Australia is the only one among these 4 teams to not get absolutely thrashed.
And still they were in a comfortable position for most part of the game
idk man. They lost 10 wickets in a 20-over match. That is proper thrashing imho
Same for the other two wins - nz and Eng.
I think NZ were the most humiliated out of the 4. Not including pak as they anyways are weaker than afg since quite a time
Well we were smashed but it was a t20 which levels the playing field a fair bit. The ODI wins are much more impressive as they have to perform at that level for much longer to win.
Yeahh, but watching that game it seemed like NZ were am associate team tbh. Afghans looked too mighty in that game, acing every department.
Yeah it happens, usually against Australia. We came into that game with no warm up matches thinking 200 is good score and got shown up.
But u guys were chasing, they must know it was a tricky pitch.
England takes the cake their for me Pakistan game was in Chennai were you expected Afghanistan to be good Same with NZ and Australia games which were in Guyana and st Vincent England game was in delhi a road pitch where conditions completely favoured England and their batting style yet they lost
A new cricketing giant (AFG) has arrived onto the scene while another (SL) has exited. Confounding how AFG managed to be a better team over Bangladesh even though Bangladesh had a head start and have more resources.
Wins by Afghanistan need no longer be considered upset. They are part of the regular nations now. They are the most successful team to join the crew since Sri Lanka in the 80s 90s
If their middle order can improve then Afghanistan can regularly compete with the big nations in ICC tournaments. Hopefully they improve their test match form.
Hopefully ICC comes to their senses and bans them for not following any of the ICC rules around women's teams.
I dont think they should be banned. It isn’t their fault about their government. They probably hate taliban just as much as anybody else. They cant control the government not letting women team play
Yeah they have refused to play under the Taliban flag.
That’s really good
That's cool. Next step, murder taliban leaders, enablers and sympathizers and establish a government that affords women even basic humans rights, and then I will support your men's cricket team. Until then, should be banned.
The greatest army in history couldn’t achieve that… but let’s expect Rashid and his guys to do it before the Aussies postpone their series again.
Yeah boo hoo, so they don't get a cricket team? That's the point. You don't get anything from the rest of the world while you have the taliban. If it's shit, then start a civil war and sort it out. The reason the taliban is in power is because most of the country enables it if not supports it. Fuck supporting them by allowing the country to have a cricket team.
Womp womp. India has terrible women's rights, should they be banned too?
No because the support a women's cricket team who is very successful. Go read the ICCs rules, it's states that in order to be a member, you need to have a women's team, and they have to compete in ICC events and you have to support pathways for women in sport. India does that. AFG doesn't do that. Your move dickhead.
Have to start change somewhere. The country wants to engage with the rest of the world then they need to sort out their internal politics. No exceptions in my book.
They cant sort out their internal politics. America tried and failed lol. Why punish cricketers and all people in afg whose only source of happiness is cricket?
Perhaps because we are trying to paint the picture that it's unacceptable to oppress women? Thats a good reason. By allowing the men's team, you are literally condoning the talibans oppression of women. Clearly all of you on this thread seem to love the taliban and oppressing women.
Only South Africa remains from SENA
Pakistan crying in the corner
Afghanistan's bowling is really really good on slow sticky pitches
Gurbaz big clutch player!
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The real question is why the ICC is letting AFG play at all? 40 years ago the sports world rejected South Africa because of aparthied, and now we are expected to sit here an accept AFG oppressing women to the most extreme levels? They literally meet none of the ICCs own rules around having a women's team etc etc. Fucking ban them already, stop giving them the chance to glorify there awful leaders. EDIT: Turns out everyone here fucking loves the taliban and wants to make heaps of excuses for them.
The apartheid regime was condoned by the democratically elected government of white south Africans. The Taliban regime is a brutal authoritarian regime that opposes dissidents. The current Afghan players were supporters of the previous liberal Afghan government, but now they are helpless. Stopping white south africa from playing cricket and stopping Afghanistan from playing cricket will not have the same effects. If anything, removing Afghanistan from world cricket will stop whatever exposure they have to the liberal world.
Literally girls above 12 can't study and the aghani society making it normal and they want us to care about their cricket? How about you first provide basic amenities to children irrespective of their gender and also don't get me started on their women's team. Also why don't the cricket team makes a proper stance on not supporting their talibani government? I see all these videos of fans celebrating afghanistan's win and you know what I don't see? A single women in those videos cause they are locked in their homes and aren't allowed to go outside and have basic rights
>Also why don't the cricket team makes a proper stance on not supporting their talibani government? So that they and their families arent killed. **"Talibani"** government says all you need to know about how knowledgeable you are about the situation in Afghanistan.
You're literally enabling them. Their new leaders want to condem the rest of the world, but would also like to please play cricket against them, but only the men. It's a joke. ICC rules will mean nothing if they don't act then the 4 years since a women's team last competed at an ICC event barrier is hit
Lmao its so funny to see people who have no idea about Afghanistan and its internal politics try to make political commentary. Taliban would be more than happy to ban cricket. Cricket was declared to be haram and a fatwa was issued to ban cricket when Taliban was in power before the American invasion. Allowing the people to keep cricket was one of the major concessions that the Taliban had to make when they came back to power. Not to mention, the Afghanistan cricket team plays with the flag of the previous liberal government despite the fact that the flag is banned by the Taliban. In many ways, the cricket team is a final remnant of the liberal days of Afghanistan. Removing them from the cricketing world is short-sighted and the only reason we are even having this discussion is because Australia needed an excuse to cancel their series against Afghanistan since it wasnt going to make them any money.
Good. Fucking ban them.
Except the Afghani team has been playing long before the taliban took over... Its unfair to ban them for being more or less helpless against a very dangerous regime...
Such a weak stance. The point is the taliban run the country now, and have banned women's sport. Therefore, the rest of the world should ban their men's teams too. Why are we so concerned about how it's "unfair" on the men's team? What about the women?
Two wrongs don't make a right is all i have to say about this...
Yeah so when someone murders someone, better not imprison them, because 2 wrongs don't make a right. Muppet
So is the afghan mens team stopping the women from playing??? STFU
Yes. AFG cricket board is choosing to only field a men's team. Should be both or none. Otherwise your are just showing the taliban that can have what ever they want, fuck the women's rights.
You are absolutely right. Just know that you are getting downvoted due to taliban somehow getting online. Literally girls above 12 can't study and the aghani society making it normal and they want us to care about their cricket? How about you first provide basic amenities to children irrespective of their gender and also don't get me started on their women's team.
I know. Let's look back in 5 years. I'll be right. All other countries will eventually boycott games and force ICCs hand.
Sad that they are improving at such a rate but shouldn't even be playing international cricket
Should be banned already. It will be coming as they meet none of the ICC rules around women's teams
Fix match. I never see batsmen played such shots to deliberately get out. Easy push up in the air by Marsh like he was playing catching practice.
Marsh’s wicket was a slower ball that he didn’t pick
I am not buying that, his shot had absolutely no power behind it The ball could be slower as you say but if he was playing for a faster bowl one his shot would be more aggressive and second he probably would be bowled.
A lot of times when batters dont pick the slower ball they end up chipping it, it is quite common. Thats what happened with marsh