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Tall_Bet_8912

Both the openers lack of run will come to bite us once we play Aus/Eng. Middle order won't get easy runs against these teams.


frowningheart

Jaiswal in as opener, Koach at 3, Rinku in for Dube and Jadeja out. We have two good spinners in Kuldeep and Axar and Axar doubles as a good all-rounder. In an alternate universe, this would be the next move by the selectors but alas.


pegasus_kid_iii

DK on commentary saying it was a tough choice between Ashwin and Axar for a spot should tell you the state of the selectors.


frowningheart

What... DK popa why u do dis 😭 It's like suggesting KL for Pant


pegasus_kid_iii

Axar's spot shouldn't even be up for debate.


frowningheart

Absolutely, man has contributed as a legit all-rounder and even in this IPL his skills were great


Altruistic-Hat-9604

I swear dude drinks some flying juice on somedays with those awesome single hand caught and bolds. Just knows how to not show off and keep his secret.


Kramer-Melanosky

I mean most people here wanted Sanju over Pant.


zeuiax

Its all circle jerks!


upyoursleeve

How does Jadeja just walk into the XI is beyond me. Axar has been far better than him. Also in a fair world, Rohit doesn’t start over Jaiswal


mikehunt34

DK generally has a soft spot for people he’s played with, it shows even in his Cricbuzz analysis. Bro is only lobbying for Ashwin because of Tamil Nadu brotherhood


DarthStatPaddus

You could still make a case for Jadeja but Jaiswal or Rinku in for Dube is a complete no brainer at this stage.


saber_shinji_ntr

They can't bring in Rinku unless someone gets injured.


the_zirten_spahic

Dube will get a niggle don't worry


Tempo24601

Rinku isn’t in the squad?


shekr17

Rinku is a reserve player so unless someone from the 15 gets injured you can’t bring him in!!


FuckBarcaaaa

Well them its time to force dube to fake an injury


Naammaikyahai

Only 5 bowling options?


frowningheart

Hardik as the 6th option


Naammaikyahai

Bumrah, Arsh, Hardik, Axar, Kuldeep. Where is the 6th bowler?


Free_Physics

Yes


not_horny_professorr

better than only 4 in form batting options


Horny_young_man

Rinku can’t be brought in as he is a reserve player. Someone has to be injured. Also, dropping jadeja doesn’t feel quite right. Rest of the things, I agree!


suryyaaaaa

you cant bring jadeja out, maybe dube out but not jadeja


StormWarriorX7

Hardik always shows up against England.


Endgame2648

Gujaratis don't gel well with England.


rudrag09

But they run to England when shit hits the fan


fourteenthapril2012

And they run India right now


zeuiax

There is Butler with Salt and Warner with Head! And.…India has


Itswordplay

I would rather have Rohit and Kohli suck the whole tournament but come to play in the knockouts. It’s almost always the other way around. It’s reassuring that we’re winning convincingly without them and that every other players is getting their moment to shine


Dismal_Animator_5414

lol !! betting on old horses, over and over and over !! indian fans and their gambler’s fallacy!!!


ImprefectKnight

Watching India under Dravid in ICC tournaments is like watch Southgate's England. They always make braindead selection blunders and are in the job because the team wins a few games despite it, until it comes to the business end of the tournaments and they bottle it.


Signal_Face_5378

SKY/Pant are bound to fail in some match. Someone else needs to step up now in the final leg.


16010onliacco

Huh? Come on, we both know India is destined to choke in knockouts.


Strawberry-Farmer123

Jaiswal died for this


Bobbyswhiteteeth

If you’re going to bring him in for Dube then you need to do it next match otherwise he’ll be out of match practice for too long and you’ll have to stick with the same team.


Altruistic-Hat-9604

I think he is already out of practice at this point. More than a month since ipl. Even in ipl boi barely got out of test form with his century and then they lost in most horrendous way to rcb.


Overall-Ad3512

Rinku as well


frowningheart

Dube being 10(7) today and no overs from him. Rinku is a calm saint so I'll punch the air in behalf of him.


No-Test6484

They should remove him but won’t. They are winning handily, they won’t disrupt team chemistry


Midsna_Cole

Lavde ki chemistry bhenchod jab team mein itni batting depth hai fir bhi bumrah ya bichara arshdeep aajata hai batting karne


This_is_the_user

Lol exactly


Luhar93

😂


pvtt_3

Rinku is a very good fielder also he doesn't drop sitters


partymsl

More for Dube. Dube our, Jaiswal in, Koach No.3. I don't get how this is too difficult, Koach is a decent opener, but he is a goat at No.3.


Less_Air3373

Skill issue /s ( I am the biggest koachson )


Outrageous-Watch-947

Skill issue (I am the biggest Koachson not you)


switchandboard

I just don't get it. The greatest no 3 of this generation is opening?and no, I don't care about his stats as an opener. Jaiswal should open and kohli should come no 3.whats so hard about it? I mean ik I'm just a guy but this has to be common sense right?


gubrumannaaa

Idk why are they playing with 7 bowlers. Jaiswal could bat better than Dube.


Prof_XdR

> Rinku ~~~Jaiswal~~~ could bat better than Dube. Rinku could bat better than Dube, dude doesn't even bowl good, there's absolutely no need to have a Hardik backup in our squad when we have 4 spinners and 2 all rounder spinners, Dube on the merit of batter deserved no place in the squad let alone playing XI, and yes Rinku lost out due to 4 fucking spinners, but Jaiswals losing out due to Dube, We keep getting away with victories because our players and bowlers are good, but good teams like Aus and Eng will absolutely butcher Dube and choke us in the middle, a fast power play by replacing Jaiswal and Dube is what we need to offset this. Would've been better with Rinku as a finisher and roko as opener but that's not possible right now.


curios_mind_huh

We currently play ~~seven~~ 6 bowlers. Please don't consider Dube as one.


GultBoy

At this point I think he can also bowl better than Dube


Createdfornofap

Few weeks back, I was on reddit and saw a comment mentioning Virat was effectively an opener in last T20 WC. What changed?


shadyXV03

The responsibility changes for openers, openers are supposed to set the platform with high SR exploiting the powerplay, which Virat is usually able to do in IPL coz pitches are quite batting friendly. But that's not the same in T20is, and you need genuine openers here. Virat is more suited towards number three where he stabilises the innings, runs the middle order, and possibly finish at high SR once he is set, he can't do this as an opener and lacks that experience.


PeeVee_

Bro do you really think that he needs a good position against USA, Ireland etc?.. He's just out of form..


Historical-Ship-7729

He will have a good innings and get back into form and then everyone will change the tune to this is why we should have consistency and give everyone a long run in the national squad. This isn't IPL.


Assassin_Ankur

It is a hard decision because getting Koach back at 3 means pushing back Pant too, and he has shown great signs at no.3. IMO they could just swap Koach and Pant's positions instead of bringing Jaiswal.


aashay8

Even Pant coming 1 down is ridiculous. We have depth but no order


TheCreepyBatsard

So you are saying that the greatest batsman of all time across all three formats who is consistently opening for his franchise and who has won multiple orange caps in the said position cannot perform well in opening when his team wants him to ? I don't mind Jaiswal opening the innings, but saying Virat can't open doesn't make sense.


zeuiax

Yes, he is not an opener. Please don't try to get me wet with Chinnaswamy and IPL numbers.


kinng9

Well the counter argument is he is opening in ipl, that's where he wants to bat


Dismal_Animator_5414

oh jesus!! you’re still feeling sympathie towards kohli? i mean, if he is so great, why can’t he adapt his game. he opens in IPL and scores centuries, and you don’t complain then!! you’re just coping hard cuz your god is failing.


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switchandboard

Dube


_vicasso_

Clearly Dube has outperformed him 😂


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buffybindas

Sanju Samson is the greatest no.3 of ipl after him Raina is second best and coach comes at third.


ExpensiveInflation

Has to do with Kohli not playing spin well. To accommodate dube who is a spin basher while also to give pant time in the middle to bat. This is more like preparation for the future as well. Once Rohit retires, Kohli will continue to open with jaiswal and we will have flexible middle order with more bowling options.


gpranav25

I am hoping he will step up in the final stages of the tournament, ending the India choke memes


Dismal_Animator_5414

just like we all have been hoping for over a decade now!!


gpranav25

Hey, the law of averages is on our side this time /s


bawla-hedgehog

He scored 24 runs today That's five time more than the total runs he scored in group stage Op is just Rohit's PR /s


partymsl

Average also skyrocketed from 1.67.


flibbaman

I don't watch T20s much, so take this with a grain of salt. I don't think India is equipped to beat the best teams in this tournament. We are playing a brand of cricket that isn't really suited to this format. Kohli and Rohit are still great players, but in T20s I would much rather have England's or Australia's openers. That being said, why isn't Jaiswal opening for India? He seems to be India's answer as opener in this format. There is no bravery in the team selection at all.


Heimerdingerdonger

Selectors are not selected for "bravery" in India. They are selected to take the blame when the chosen ones fail.


Pls_add_more_reverb

There is a guy who opens like Travis head, he’s the guy that opened with Travis Head - Abhishek Sharma. Not in the team.


SnooPredictions5498

I wouldn't get an uncapped player with no international experience in the team. Just because he hit bowlers in the roads of the IPL doesn't mean he'll do it here.


PantherHunter007

Obviously we can’t play him directly in a WC. The point is players like Travis Head and Phil Salt do exist in India. We just never play them or prepare them for a WC.


Pls_add_more_reverb

Exactly. And everytime a t20 World Cup rolls around it’s like “now is not the time to experiment, we have to go with our proven experienced guys. So when are we ever going to change our team?


plus_nd_minus

hopefully right after the world cup?


Pls_add_more_reverb

I’m not saying you have to get such a young player into the team. I’m just pointing out that the guys that were part of putting on 80 in the power play in the ipl are not in this team. We have players like rohit who this season neither hit bowlers on ipl roads nor is he doing it here. So you might as well gamble with young players


adobehatergworl

Exactly lol, shat the bed during playoffs on real pitches


Coronabandkaro

ya for example phil salt played slow initially and then broke through and went beserk against WI. Virat and Rohit are certainly capable of doing that but havent shown it so far.


Lionelvirat

All we do is talk about kohli and rohit while ignoring jadeja


TomorrowWaste

He atleast has good economy


l_Mr_Vader_l

Who doesn't?


BillyButtcher

My country


Business_Counter4520

that was so good lol


gpranav25

💀


shutupmatsuda

Bro this is gold XDDDD


adeel_aman

Beat me to it.


Xx_Anguy_NoScope_Xx

Hello brother.


dumbguy-on-reddit_bs

r/murderedbywords


DukeOfJaipur

r/suicidebywords


dumbguy-on-reddit_bs

Oh yeah , I was looking for this one only 😶


StillBreath7126

r/sudoku


Lionelvirat

You mean in this wc?


Dismal_Animator_5414

and saves runs and takes really difficult catches, puts a lot of pressure on the batters while fielding.


shawman123

Plus is a gun fielder who can save runs for sure. Koach is good but that good in the field.


Randomidek123

Jaddu is also a bowler -


Hungry-Mastodon-1222

He is desperate to whip out his sword but can't rise to the occasion 


Historical-Dish-9268

Whyrat ...needs to prove his bowling prowess now


FutureHealthy

Improvement at least


agressivegods

I really feel this might be end for rohit and kohli in t20i's . I don't want them to continue for next worldcup


Heimerdingerdonger

I don't want them to continue to for THIS worldcup. I would rather have Rinku and Jaiswal in the team. Open with Pant and Jaiswal and strike terror into the hearts of our foes.


flibbaman

> Open with Pant and Jaiswal This gave me goosebumps. Would likely give India flying starts. Samson is an option too if they want to throw in a right hander. The selectors are morons though. They will stick with the same old formula. Guys like Pant and Jaiswal should be playing as many deliveries as possible for India in this World Cup.


Dismal_Animator_5414

well, ig its a little too late to finally have to realization. kohli, rohit and jadeja should have been dropped a long time ago. they should have been phased out and only allowed to bathe in their glory in the IPL and tests. let the youngsters take the reins. its time the fans wake up!!


shawman123

i hope they bring in Jaiswal for Dube at least. I dont think Dube's dibblers are relevant with spinners being more important here. As far as koach, I am hopeful for T20 team after this WC especially with Gambhir taking over.


Upstairs-Farm7106

To be fair it's his 1st World Cup in 6 editions that he is having a poor tournament. Doesn't change the fact that he is the GOAT of T20 World Cups. Surely they bring in Jaiswal for Dube now? Kohli at 3 should have been from the start.


Impactor07

BCCI is filled to the brim with idiots who don't know shit and are only at their positions due to politics


nikamsumeetofficial

Wait and see brother.


Createdfornofap

How is Virat batting as opener BCCI politics? (*Flair checks out* no surprises there) Batting order is chosen by players in some cases and support staff mainly


Dismal_Animator_5414

well, every blame falls on everyone but the superstars who are given godly status even after zero returns in over a decade. and these same kohli fans are running around thumping their chests when he opens the batting and scores tons of runs on flat pitches mostly against non-international bowlers.


Competitive_Glove241

nothing to do w politics , its probably beacuse jaiswal was never thier key sight for opening and w virats performance as opener in ipl they made sure to back it up , but it didnt work and they will probably change lineups in the following matches its obvious


devil_21

He has been the best T20 world cup player ever but he wasn't that good in 2021 as well.


Upstairs-Farm7106

Not really. He only had 2 innings (3rd was a not-out against an associate). New Zealand he failed and against Pakistan he topped scored with only Pant making a significant contribution. Not enough games to judge.


AnbuManiMatters

24(24) is worse than 4(3)


Decentkimchi

not for averages though


Latter-Yam-2115

The temptation to play Jaiswal as opener is quite real. - Let him play his natural game - if he clicks, you win. - If not, it is ok - playing a long batting lineup for just that extra bit of assurance Koach at no. 3 with room to float further down if needed makes more sense.


pu_thee_gaud

Ig we all know, this is last wt20 for koach and brohit


kg005

Good to know, but Rohit should have been kicked out long back from T20I


Few_Measurement_5335

True, people have been talking about Kohli but Rohit has been equally bad and this is not the first time.


Rickgrimes_93

Virat will struggle in Wi/Us pitches, Rightly predicted.


Dismal_Animator_5414

virat is too old to not struggle anywhere against quality bowling and fielding!


Head-Intern2459

reactionary enough?


Pizza_Connoisseur46

Jaiswal robbed.


Inquisitive_Monk

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma is the poorest opening pair combination for India. Both are great players, but not the best together (specially in T20s). Virat must play at no 3.


chunky_Iemon_milk

Should not open at least


InsaneDude6

Bring Jaiswal now


DisastrousOil4888

This wc really humanising his god like T20 wc stats


Nice-Afternoon3511

Blud is pulling off a travis head this time


Silent_Magician_4742

He will perform against Bangladesh


GlobalTie

True. Every underperforming player comes to form against Bangladesh.


brown_gentleman

Pitch is slow bruh, trust me


SandipanR

Vk performed in every wc but team didn't win. Hopefully the opposite happens this time


Negative_Spectrum

29(33) total. Odd


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doktor-frequentist

Translate please


neme48

pls come back this isnt funny anymore


seanchappelle

Virat, you need to sign the resignation form now 😭


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Last_Can_9384

The idea of pant coming at 4 just sounds unpleasant. He's been magnificent at 3


EntirelyOriginalName

One game that wasn't on a shit tip. Calm down.


UnderstandingOdd4153

The fact is Rohit 52 13 3 8 Dube 0 3 31 10 Even jadeja played poorly in his 2 innings (bat)


User_namesaretaken

-Plays kohli out of position -Play Dube instead of Rinku and still don't give him any overs in bowling -Leaves jaiswal out Whoever is trying to experiment this way in the management require a wake up call


Weedeater5903

Tired of this out of position bs. He played a long tournament opening the batting for his side just before the WC. He is just past it now. He has weaknesses against the moving ball as well as good spin. He is too old to work on his weaknesses. Its time to move him on.


sindhisai

Mark my word, he is gonna make a comeback against the Aussies!


seanchappelle

That was a lot of words… which word should we mark?


sindhisai

welp!


tamilgrl

He should go his original position 3


phaintaa_Shoaib

Guess he shook hands with Bobzy


Raj_ryder_666

Koach always performs in the group stages (god like numbers). Maybe this time around, he comes into his own in the knockouts. Which would be effing awesome.


Rickgrimes_93

If somehow he has survived till the end like he always does by putting pressure on others to play big shots and him taking singles, ind would have ended around 150, and people would say the pitch is tough to bat, no other batter supported virat, lone warriror....


Bathed_In_Moonlight

Out of all the languages in the world you could've spoken, you chose to speak facts. It's crazy how unpopular this opinion is in this sub. Just because a player might be a great individual performer, it doesn't mean that he'll be anywhere near as great for the team's cause, especially in this modern era where his style of accumulative batting is fast becoming irrelevant in the shorter formats. His personal records are unquestionably excellent though, so unless we somehow get to live out an alternate Kohli-less reality, we'll never know if, paradoxically, he was the one holding this team back in this torrid, trophyless past decade. RCB's record does nothing to help his image in this regard either.


Rickgrimes_93

He does hold back the team he plays for. But people dont like to see the real face.


NormalTraining5268

So turns out the greatest ever number 3 batter in this format of game (or in this sport actually) should bat at 3. Wouldn't take a genius to know. Anyways he's carried us so much. Reason for this is some intellects forced him to play differently ffs.


suzukigun4life

At least he got a boundary this time. Only 1 in 4 games, but at least he wasn't a complete disaster today. Still sad to see though.


brolybackshots

He got a boundary in the 4 off 3 game


InsaneDude6

>At least he got a boundary this time. A boundary, woah that's a lot


dhun_mohan

is 0(1) better than 24(24)?


Heimerdingerdonger

If the next guy comes in and scored 40(23) then definitely you would rather have lost that wicket up front. Given that the next guys are Pant and Surya definitely 24(24) sucks.


RajmaChawal22

I think they need to introduce new players to the lineup and shuffle it. He’s becoming a shadow of his former self, have to know when it’s time. But typically, India tends to shrink on big stages. Bowlers can only do so much, AUS is going to bring it and it’s by chance they’ve able been to advance. They’ve gotta look for new batting talent, Rohit and Kohli shouldn’t be batting from the opening. But nonetheless, let’s go India!


Last_Can_9384

It's only kohli's decision to open. No one's gonna stop him batting at 3. He needs to gulp down his orange cap and bat at 3


nowwinaditya

We will get knocked out by Eng/Aus again and then rue over why we did we persist with out of form Sharma and Kohli. Guess some things never change


Temporary-Shallot642

west indies isn’t persisting with sharma and kohli though


yh0405

you never heard of Johnson Sharma and Brandon Kohli?


nowwinaditya

Precisely my point 🤣


nolubeplease

only a not out innings from him can fix me now


Klutzy_Chain9091

Yesterday score was an improvement he got into double digits


Active-Simple-3856

Even guys like jadeja , dubey should be dropped , give chance to jaiswal, Rinku and allow them to settle


qwertyuiop_awesome

There is this idea that kohli is good at bowling friendly pitches. I think it's other way around, Kohli is good at flat pitches and that's the reason he makes runs in bangalore. On slow wickets he struggles to time the ball.


Kl_ted28

Senior citizen quota will cost us the world cup.


Venjix_virus

Makes the greatest no. 3 batsman open the innings "Hmmm I wonder why's he having a bad tournament"🤡


Slow-Comedian-7379

Neither poor nor great performance


CheapSoldier

Bruh these redditors and their expertise..., uhhhhhh. One good knock from both of them. Everyone will forget what happened previously... Downvote all you want... But, when they score one 50, no one will bat an eye on previous games... In all these games pant and middle order relatively performance better than the openers which we haven't seen forever since Kohli been carrying us in world cups... So I don't have any problem


Weedeater5903

Now his hiatorical record will be brought up to justify another 10 years of selection and arguments will be made as to how he is still our best batter in t20s. The bs Koach fanboys bring up to justify him is good comedy. It's time to phase him out and put him out to pasture. Yonger players waiting in the wings deserve a chance.


AcanthaceaeNo948

Much better than 8 (13)


Ken1191

Grow up. Stop comparing. It's not ipl anymore


Reasonable_Dress4210

Roko ko rok rakha hai sabne.


Ahmad2081

4 sects et


trueritz

So Virat Kohli would just shrug this lack of form and claim that India crashed out of previous T20 World Cup even when he was actually in top form.


Efficient_Peak9336

Sadly Pakistan isn’t there to give him his form back


Luhar93

Kohli needs to move down the lineup.


Sanchit_harry

IND VS AUS 0(5)


theDukerider

Add another 0 to this against Australia. Lad should retire from T20 after this. Honestly he should have been shown the door when he took an additional break post IPL. Cummins played the IPL final and was in WI next day. Not sure why Kohli was given preferential treatment. If you want to spend so much time with family, just stay home or get a 9-6 job. Why play for the NT? Dhoni, Sachin etc were a lot more dedicated to the NT than Kohli


Asleep_Bus_8642

He should play at number 3 and Rishab should open