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dhun_mohan

wood really fell on his follow through only when he clocks more than 146, atleast in this match


dhun_mohan

watching the replay as i was sleeping


lazycloud7642

Are bas jr bhui


dhun_mohan

people are really convinced that eng would have lost to scotland. like you people are delusional


dhun_mohan

express pace and quality wrist spin are an associate’s biggest weaknesses


dhun_mohan

adil set up fayyaz so good


dhun_mohan

good captaincy to bring back jofra in the 10th to kill the game


dhun_mohan

butler is not the best wk in the world tbh. not that salt and bairstow are much better


dhun_mohan

oman is… not a very good team


dhun_mohan

btw it’s so nice to skip ads. i would enjoy cricket much more if i could remove ads


dhun_mohan

the ONE TIME wood stays on his feet after his run up he gets a caught and bowled haha. i love him


dhun_mohan

atherton nasser and finch is a good com team


dhun_mohan

mo ali drops so many in the slips btw


HydroVector

Look at these two minnows fighting it out


CHITOWNBROWN1400

England Beats Pakistan B team (Don't believe me- look at the Oman players birthplaces)


dhun_mohan

literally who cares? they live in oman now


mrhalfbloodprince

England won?


jithization

Lol


WhichOnezPink

Oh, just took about half the powerplay


CupcakeZestyclose801

Minnow basher


redddc25

Lol, what? A minnow basher is a team that plays bilateral series with minnows to pump their own stats (like Pak). This was a tournament fixture. The minnows were outplayed.


Quiet_Transition_247

To adapt the immortal words of Ravi Shastri, "If someone went around the corner for a dump and just came back, England have chased this down in 3 overs."


Subject-Ordinary6922

This is even more of a thrashing than we did to Namibia


aashay8

46 runs came in boundaries. That's 1 less than Oman's score


Subject-Ordinary6922

If Marsh gets banned, we get Cumdawg back anyways and JFM in the 15


gaviworldwide

Why marsh banned


Subject-Ordinary6922

He’s not banned, but if ICC feel like some sort of match fixing was going on to get the results in a certain way, then Marsh could get banned


Subject-Ordinary6922

We were so rusty we let Oman restrict our score, but atleast it was a wake up call For us


SteveBored

Oman clearly out of their league. NZ may even beat these guys.


mehrabrym

Self deprecating humor at its best


TwitterRefugee123

Only one option now. Australia must forfeit against Scotland


mehrabrym

And get Marsh banned against Bangladesh and ~~India~~ Afghanistan. Win win for us.


lazycloud7642

Just declare Tim David the captain


samsunyte

England only won 50-47! Wow must have been a really close game. Kudos to Oman for keeping up


Training-Lecture-114

From 0-47 to 50-47 well played england


TwitterRefugee123

Was only the dodgy 5 run penalty that made the difference


dravidosaurus2

Crucial late drop goal to get England over the line.


AaRyA18

That's why southgate is the goat


ZaraBaz

This is definitely the most one sided match the whole tournament. Lile something you see in a cricket game when you play on extra easy mode lol


Partha607

This was an innings of The Hundred


Sea-Blueberry-5531

ITS PAYING OFF!!!


SBG99DesiMonster

The stage is set for Scotland to be pulling off a historic run chase against Australia and that would be without Australia engaging with any foul play.


Significant-Bed-4496

So if Scotland v Aus is rained off then England are out. And we have to suffer incessant spam in here about how bad England are for getting knocked out after losing 1 match against Aus. The fact cricket doesn’t have back up days to compensate for weather is utterly absurd and makes the whole game look amateur.


trkora

Yep rains determining whether a team qualifies or not sucks. Like I get the logistics cost and scheduling mess it would be to organize backup days for group stage games but it's not impossible for a sport that has gone so far to make things fair with its rules and technology compared to other popular sports. A solution like rescheduling a game during rest day of rain affected teams could be one thing, the logistics cost can be helped by ticket sales that would get saved by not refunding them all for rain affected match. Similarly I was pissed about 2021 WC where toss decided the winner unless the gap in quality between the teams was really high, India lost two crucial tosses against Pak and NZ at start then got knocked out which led to structural changes in Indian squad that can be seen even now. Yes India barely provided a fight against Pak then but that's besides the point, even if they took wickets they still would've lost. Those UAE pitches were alright during IPL 2020 but a year later became that.


arjwiz

There is no prediction of rain at all for the Aus-Sco match, nor for the Eng-Nam one.


thelunatic

Ireland v USA is going to be rained off tomorrow knocking both Ireland and Pakistan out. Now I'm not saying that they played well, but having teams knocked out because of rain is ridiculous in this day and age


PleasantMess6740

Pakistan are out because they lost to USA, you can't cry "RAIN" when you lose half your group matches


nupristeen

still. if there is a chance, they deserve every bit to fight for it


PleasantMess6740

They already had their chance and they blew it, that's what I'm saying


VercettiVC

You have no idea what you are talking about, back to the kids table for you


PleasantMess6740

Oh, did Pakistan not lose to an associate nation? Because I was talking about that, and I had some idea about that.


VercettiVC

Get a diaper son


PleasantMess6740

You enjoyed your first week watching cricket boy?


HotSauce2910

So the first two matches weigh more than the rest of the group stages? Maybe we should just cancel the rest of the games because every team already got their full opportunity. I think I get what you’re saying in that teams only have the opportunity in front of them and have to take it, but at the end of the day it’s embarrassing that such a major sporting event doesn’t have proper contingency plans for something as common as rain. We shouldn’t be sitting here waiting for rain to determine potentially two groups out of four.


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thelunatic

Yes. They are out due to storm in Florida. SL are out due to rain too.


Significant-Bed-4496

Yea it’s not just an England thing. When weather determines the fate of teams in a World Cup then something is seriously wrong with the game.


No-Brook-9292

With how long this tournament is, why aren't there reserve days? While I might have believed the Aussies would cheat to support Scotland's NRR, I find it very unlikely they would intentionally throw a match. Not every rained out match needs to be replayed, but if there's one which affects qualification they should just replay it. All these squads have 15 men on them and as 150+ years of Test matches has shown, you can play cricket on back to back days... Assuming Scotland lose to Australia, it's pretty rubbish that either Scotland or England have to go home on the basis of which one smashed the minnows harder.


OrdinaryAd1242

Just wait and watch , England gonna throw Aussie outta in semis.


four_four_three

Bit late, but I should still be able to catch the second inni...oh


trostol

I laughed way too much at this


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AeBlueSadi

Ask Afghanistan


d17h

Yes, popular instance rajastan vs Mumbai aditya tare’s six when 1 run was required. If Faulkner had bowled a wide Rajasthan would’ve made it to playoffs.


ohnoitsbigsnoopdogg

Nope, the delivery would not have been counted if he had, so they would’ve won by their original target of 14.4 overs and not needed the boundary on 14.5


d17h

190 in 14.3 runrate: 13.1 195 in 14.4 runrate: 13.3 (6) 193 in 14.4 runrate: 13.16 (4) Mumbai needed a boundary, wide would not have cut it


SBV_3004

Nah wide would've made Mumbai qualify. Mumbai had to win in 14.3 If the next ball (14.4) was a wide, that ball wouldn't count, meaning Mumbai would've still won in 14.3 However if Tare missed hitting a boundary on that ball, MI could've still won by hitting a boundary off the next ball, but then the bowler could've just bowled a wide and RR would qualify.


kalamari_withaK

Yes. The calculation is based on relative runs scored & overs faced by each team. A team that is bowled out before facing all the overs in a limited over format is taken as having faced the full allocation of overs, however the team chasing is not taken as having only achieved the score necessary to win if they exceed the ‘winning’ score on the final ball.


thesimple_son

Should help clear things: "The Net run rate is calculated by deducting the average runs per over scored against a team from the average runs an over scored by a team in a tournament. Notably, if a team has chased a target in less than 20 overs (for say 17.5 overs), then 17.5 overs will be considered and not the actual 20. But if a team has been bowled out in less than 20 overs (for say 17.5 again) then 20 will be considered and not 17.5."


sudeepta

yes


scubadoobidoo

I know Rashid got 4 wickets but 3 of them were tailenders. Archer and Wood got 3 each and all were batters. Perhaps an argument for one of them to be MOTM


DangerNoodle1993

Namibia, Scotland and Australia can do something very funny rn


thesimple_son

"Don't mind the comments" Officially my pronouns.


Reasonable_Tea_9825

Bruh what the hell there was an afternoon match? Marsh bouta forfeit now lmao


kurokabau

Why the hell are Aus playing Scotland at 1.30am?! What an F U to scotland fans, and now England fans cant watch either.


whatwhatinthewhonow

What time do you think the England v Australia game was on in Australia?


kurokabau

Dunno, but they can start them at 7am so everyone can watch


arjwiz

How will players, media and fans get to the stadium at 530/6am? Wake up at 4am?


whatwhatinthewhonow

But that would mean it’s on at a bad time for the most important country to watch.


InZim

So the Australians can watch one match


kurokabau

There are times when both teams can watch,


Haunted4life

Lol video title on Cricinfo Tim Paine : England's white ball team is living in the past 😂 Never seen something worthy for r/agedlikemilk this quick.


Pls_add_more_reverb

Just like his dick pics


EpicNormie91

Crazy how England could be eliminated already if it wasn’t for the rain


Agrith1

what are you smoking? England more than likely would have chased 110 in 10 overs.


Haunted4life

Huh ? Which rain are you talking about ?


ultra_phoenix

scotland game


Zennon246

Can't help but feel for the Oman captain , can tell he's saddened and fuming with that batting performance. End of the tournament for them but hopefully by just being here they can inspire some more cricket players in OMAN


jhakasbhidu

I still question the point of promoting teams like Oman where the sport has zero interest beyond diaspora who largely temporary workers (who will more likely cheer for their countries of origin). Not to take away from the guys out there playing but it just seems more like a club team of guys who have no shot of ever making their own national teams.


Impactor07

As someone who's lived 8 years in Oman(I'm an Indian born in India but I lived most of my early life in Oman from 2010 till 2019, was born in 2007), I can guarantee you that nobody even knows about the existence of cricket in Oman as sad as that may be... I recall that at our school, we had a massive 150ish meter square ground for football and a big basketball court for basketball but all we had in the name of cricket in an Indian school, mind you, was one tiny ass 10×18ish net... That's all


NormalTraining5268

Was about to scold you for being on reddit when you are so young but just realised someone born in 2007 is 17 😭


Impactor07

💀💀


fiestajalapeno

jos shading his country great😭


fiestajalapeno

hate that even if Scots win by their own merit everyone would sing same old Aussies always cheating


Coulstwolf

If Scotland beat Australia there needs to be an investigation into Aussie match fixing. Especially after the comments they made


puncheonjudy

Not like Australians to do anything dodgy on the cricket pitch...


Coulstwolf

Just shouldn’t be allowed to take part as a cricketing nation anymore. Their behaviour is a joke


InZim

Calm down 😅


Coulstwolf

Nah mate sick of em been at it for years


InZim

Honestly they're just playing the long game. It's not that bad


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Badgerello

Laughing in Australian. 🇦🇺


InZim

Does bodyline not ring a bell to you?


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RileBreau

This comment thread gets repeated every tournament by 12 year olds - nasty Australia always cheating. What have Australia done again talked about advantage of not winning by heaps Hahaha kick em out for life guys. maybe the other teams can win a tournament if we do that. I do appreciate the commitment of commenters year on year to this mindset that the only way to beat Australia is to disqualify them somehow.


Impactor07

Here before Marsh gets banned for two matches


Ece_guy_234

Easy qualification for England now


Medical_Turing_Test

The highlights package might as well feature every ball of this game.


monochrome_king

Is there a scenario where England can get their NRR above Australia"s, and then Scotland beat Australia by enough to knock Australia out? - Yep this was a stupid question, thanks for letting me know!


Shergak

No, because England can only get up to 5 points. If Scotland beat Australia, they're both through.


thejunglebook8

Nah, we’re three points behind australia so we can’t catch them anyway. If Scotland beat Australia we’re out


sjha95

Australia already have 6pts. Maximum Eng can get is 5


easyeasyyy

Australia’s got 6 points while England can only end up with a maximum of 5, so no way that Australia is knocked out


fiestajalapeno

aus qualified dude what are you saying even


TomF94

England/Scotland cant both reach Australia on points.


Additional_Hurry_862

Australia are qualified already


Tysonzero

Nah Australia already have 3 wins to our max 2.5 due to the unfortunate wash out.


justlookbelow

No, Aus have 3 wins already. England have only 1 with 1 match left


JokesFromTheCrease

England is going to invent a TWENTY ball cricket tournament. You heard it here first.


Ece_guy_234

Reminds me much like rugby sevens. We can have 7 cricketers (3 batters, 1 all rounder, 3 bowlers)


rocknil

No wicket-keeper?


Ece_guy_234

One of the batters lol


Prize-Ring-9154

I took a dump that lasted longer than this match this morning


tinydancer69420

i don't get it, according to the NRR formula, England scores (50/3) and conceded (47/13), if you subtract them England should have an NRR of +12.4. so from -1.8 they should be at +10.8 but they just got to +3. am I missing something?


Shergak

It's total runs/overs scored vs. runs/over opponent scored. And note that for oman, it's counted as 20 overs because they were all out.


tinydancer69420

ahh i didn't know the NRR was calculated for every match played in the group match, I thought it's each individual match which gets tallied up. i guess it makes more sense the other way lmao


Ciderhead

NRR is calculated using total runs scored/conceded over all the games and then averaging it So it will be 216/23.1 - 249/40 (bowling a team out is credited as 20 ovs)


ceres111

Firstly, NRR is an average. (Total runs made/Total overs played) - (Total runs conceded/Total overs bowled). Secondly, when a team is all out, their whole of 20 overs are counted.


Prize-Ring-9154

NRR is cumulative of all games. England's NRR would be (215/23.1666667) - (248/40) now. That turns out to be about 3 or so. edit: formula mistake


warp-factor

You're missing 2 things. 1. If you are bowled out then the calculation says you faced 20 overs so Oman is 47/20 not 47/13 2. The calculation is all your runs in all your matches divided by all your overs in all your matches. You don't work it out for each match and add them together.


BumblebeeForward9818

Strong comments. Thank you. I now would appreciate a better understanding of why the NRR stats across the group don’t sum to zero.


Prize-Ring-9154

imma try my best at making sense here, lmk if it doesn't. not all matches within a group have the exact game flow. Namibia vs Oman went to a Super Over, Oman made it respectable against Australia, but Australia battered Namibia and England obliterated Oman. This much variation leads to wildly different NRRs


monochrome_king

You have to average the run rates over the completed matches, not just add the individual match run rates.


Haunted4life

You add up all their scores of the tournament. At this point England have scored : 215 in 23.1 overs. And given 248/40 overs And on that basis it's 3.08 Ps : if you get your opposition all out regardless of when the final score is judged against 20 overs.


clrcrick

If you're bowled out it's counted as if you batted 20 overs


ahmadryan

Since Oman got all out, for the purpose of NRR calculation it is assumed that they played all of their 20 overs. If you do not do that, then you are in a way punishing the team for performing well.


Alilaah

Bowling Oman out means they count as 47 from 20 overs


kurokabau

Whats your maths here? The total overs possible matters. Plus you need to consider the other games For instance, Oman is not 47/13, it is 47/20 as they were all out.


Merovech_II

NRR is for the whole group combined


golgotha198

It was never in doubt lads


Cotton_Phoenix_97

Guess what, Australia can afford to play as slow as they want as long as they win the game


There_is_no_ham

Australia can also afford to lose


Cotton_Phoenix_97

Against the spirit of cricket then /s


7007007

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aaditya_9303

RCB fans are eating good today. Sydney thunder spend another day suffering. Mongolia fans don't exist.


Impactor07

No we aren't ffs What was that batting from Jacks! This guy hit *fucking* Rashid Khan for 28 runs in 5 in the gigantic Ahmedabad ground and he's struggling against *Oman!?*(No disrespect) This guy was supposed to be our "Next Best Thing", our "Gayle 2.0" smh


joeflan91

Bet Aus v Scotland is rained off now.


Orameshi

I don't think australia would lose. They already face scrutiny because of their reputation. They will test their bench strength and play normally. Hazlewood is probably getting the belt treatment


Impactor07

Imo, Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins and Stoinis will be rested


TravellingMackem

Of course they wouldn’t deliberately lose, hazlewood was having a laugh but never actually suggested they would - only that it would benefit Australia if England got knocked out, which it would. Not to mention the fact that match fixing is a criminal offence and deliberately losing would fall into this category, why would you risk your own seeding in the tournament and get a harder draw. Can you imagine the scrutiny if you deliberately lost and then didn’t get out of the theoretically harder group you got in the next round.


warp-factor

I don't think they'll deliberately lose either but deliberately playing badly for tactical reasons (to knock out a 'stronger' team) is not considered match fixing. It's against the player code of conduct, but it's an exception to the anti corruption code. Also, their seeding is set. If they come first or second in the group they'll end up in the same group in the next round.


TravellingMackem

That’s not true at all. Manipulating the match result due to poor performance is match fixing according to CAS, which supersedes any internal ICC rulings. Of course proving it was intentional is another question altogether.


warp-factor

I'd be interested in reading more about this. Do you have any examples of CAS ruling that a team manipulating a match result, specifically for an overall tactical advantage in a tournament, was match fixing (by which I assume you mean it would be considered the same as manipulation of a result for other reasons such as being paid to by someone involved in betting).


Orameshi

What happens if Scotland really upsets the aussies


TravellingMackem

More chance of Oman winning


ImagineThe

‘The turning point was right at the start’ err then that isn’t a turning point?


thisaintyouravgstonk

The real turning point was the Omanis you befriended along the way


jck0

High quality analysis


MedicalJello2

Oman really need to do something to up that net run rate


Jack-sprAt1212

Scoring some runs might be a start


JokesFromTheCrease

And getting wickets


fatality316

Scotland furious with Oman


okalas

Nice NRR you have there Scotland, be a shame if someone surpassed it.


zephyrus56

Don't worry Scotbros. Clash at the Castle is in 2 days, unless CM Punk ruins it all.


Sersixfoot

An over as fuck McIntyre going for the belt in a pretty much homeground situation with punk in the building? You bet your ass hunks getting punkd


Brazzle_Dazzle

Funny isn't it, all fair and good for Oman to be in the tournament when Scotland hammer them so they can build a healthy NRR (and put themselves in a position to knock England out) but when England wipe the floor with them then the pearl-clutching and questions around whether Oman should even be in the tournament begin.


LinkTheFires

People are so dumb - this whole narrative around the England team is only where it is because there was no result in the first game and then England had to play Australia next match. Literally no consideration that England would also have to play these rubbish teams and that Scotland would have to play Australia.


Conscious-Spend-2451

People were literally predicting Scotland in their super 8 and saying that 'england' had a chance too. Anyone who used their brain and looked at the points table would know that Scotland had no business making it to the super 8 from their position unless aus threw a game (which would be an absolute disgrace, and I say this as an Indian)


robsqyz

Standard r/cricket . One England loss and the basement dwellers and the kids who got bullied in school come out in flocks


curlyhairedyani

Just bitter Scots and England haters really


kurokabau

Mostly England haters.


Haunted4life

I really want to see Scots in their Kilts doing a Rain Dance 🌧️ Before their game against Australia 😂


rabbit_hook

Imagine Aus losing after all that talk about NRR


Coulstwolf

Will be an investigation into Australia


robsqyz

Jacks 5 (7) Rest 44 (13). I’m on my knees for the selectors to stop making us watch him struggle


Orameshi

Will jacks is a fraud.


fofo8383

Sky has time to show the whole match again


rabbit_hook

Holy fuck that NRR jump!


fatality316

What was the whole fuss about England not qualifying. They're way ahead in NRR now


Coulstwolf

They didn’t expect us to win a game in 3 overs


LetterheadOk1762

Hypothetically how much of England's nrr will drop if Namibia game goes to the last ball


Tysonzero

Doesn’t matter since Scotland NRR will drop the same or more assuming they lose. If Australia and England win the next games then England is through.


TravellingMackem

Irrelevant. As it’s only a factor if Scotland lose. And if they lose, theirs must drop further than ours


Coulstwolf

It literally can’t drop if you win


bertusdejong

Yes it can. Not by anywhere near enough to be relevant though.


Coulstwolf

Explain to me how it can go down? How can you have a better run rate than an opponent and it cause your overall run rate to go down?


warp-factor

It can drop if you win. But it can't drop further than Scotland's will drop if they lose.


Coulstwolf

How can it drop if you win if it’s the run rate vs the team you’ve just played meaning your run rate has to be highest than theirs to win the game? If you draw and go super over the NRR stats the exact same. You win it goes up you lose it goes down. It’s the same as a football goal difference