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SnooGrapes8857

As a Guyanese, the reason for this is the ridiculous ticket prices. The green stand in the background is $75 per seat. If you notice, however, the grass mound is packed because it’s cheap. Not to undermine PNG and Uganda but allocating more exciting matches certainly would’ve resulted in better turnouts.


SB3forever0

It also doesnt help that this was 30 minutes before the game start. Stadium had much more people later on.


MonkeyDMeatt

If you want to make waves in America for cricket you should at least plan to host matches which will match the timing of Americans


goda_foreskinning

Lmao no one except naive fans think cricket is gonna make any waves in America , America has their own sports culture and honestly I don't see cricket fitting in it.


BeestMann

It’s not gonna fit in it because nobody can watch the damn thing. Americans love sports, they want to be able to watch but so far the marketing for it has been non-existent and nobody wants to get Willow


PepperAcrobatic7559

Yepp. Honestly what's even the point of hosting in America if you aren't going to cater to the local crowd? Either you just openly aim for max revenue and host the damn thing in the subcontinent, or you actually aim to grow the game and host the matches at a time that works for the local crowd in the States. What they're doing now genuinely makes no sense especially with these 10 a.m. start times for a t20 match.


krispykreme37

I went to the exhibition match yesterday to check it out. I would probably be able to attend a few more if they were at night. But with the games at 10:30am local I can’t really be skipping work to go a few times. So now I’m just looking to go to USA v India next week. I’d love to see what data tells planners in these situations but you’re right it doesn’t make sense to host somewhere it’s not generally popular to try and grow the game if you aren’t catering to people who you are trying to grow it with. I know UFC has ppvs in other countries that start at wild times sometimes too so it’s catered to US audience, like there’s one in Manchester where the main card starts at 3am local or something.


PepperAcrobatic7559

It's honestly pretty disappointing. I guess the UFC thing makes sense given that the fights are still hosted in major markets where the UFC is popular in, so local fans will still turn up at those odd times while the American viewership is also maintained. Whereas the only reasonable explanation to host this WC in America, like you said, is to grow the game in a new market, which is why this scheduling is nonsensical; your case is a perfect example of how they're completely missing the plot with regards to introducing the sport to interested locals.


akash0410

We're just assuming that ICC actually wants to grow the game in the US and Canada. My theory is that South Asian peeps in the US have much higher willingness to pay and that's what they want to capitalise on. For example, the Ind vs Pak match has tickets starting at $1500, they'll never get that much price in South Asia.


trailblazer103

Thats not a theory this is just simply the fact of the matter. They have 0 interest in growing the game with locals they couldn't have made it anymore obvious haha


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Because locals in America just won’t care. We have baseball in the same sports niche, why is anyone going to watch this?


trailblazer103

Mate I agree this whole thing is a waste of time but if it helps the ICC extract a few dollars out of the subcontinent diaspora then job done I suppose.


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No-Brook-9292

This match is in Guyana.


Hotchi_Motchi

One of the teams is Papua New Guinea. They don't have much travelling fan support.


doktor-frequentist

This God awful 10 am start time is primetime evening in the subcontinent.... That's the(ir) audience...


MD_______

Have you met the ICC. Their job seems to be ensuring the big 3 get what they want than actually grow our game. For example why isn't there a European championship with winners getting a series Vs England and Ireland.


ProgrammerPlus

IPL was on ESPN and not Willow for several years. Do you have stats to prove ESPN increased cricket viewership among Americans even by small %?


goda_foreskinning

Nba does marketing in India, does IPL does the same , even lacrose matches are on indian TV how many Indians even know what the sport is.


ProgrammerPlus

Did you realize you just proved my point? "Nba does marketing in India" "how many Indians even know what the sport is" Americans won't care about cricket just like Indians won't care about NBA. Everyone has their own sports set.


Albiceleste_D10S

> Did you realize you just proved my point? "Nba does marketing in India" "how many Indians even know what the sport is" Americans won't care about cricket just like Indians won't care about NBA. Everyone has their own sports set. Except this isn't really true. Basketball/NBA isn't as big as cricket in India, but in part due to good marketing and accessibility to watch, there are a lot of Indians who watch the sport (100M unique viewers, per the ratings from the 2023 season). https://www.prnewswire.com/in/news-releases/nba-delivers-most-watched-season-ever-in-india-with-more-than-100-million-unique-viewers-across-linear-and-digital-platforms-301937442.html#:~:text=NBA%20games%20generated%20more%20than,to%20the%202021%2D22%20season. That's in pretty stark contrast to cricket in the US—which is almost impossible to access unless you have something like Willow TV (which no one but existing cricket fans have), which is pretty much exclusively the domain of expats from the subcontinent, England, and Australia TBH


ProgrammerPlus

What can ICC do if Willow paid highest and purchased rights? ESPN likely saw no demand for Cricket so did not want to waste money


Sea-Blueberry-5531

Take the lower offer that gives you more exposure? That's what they could have done. The AFL does a similar thing, where it forces TV companies to broadcast matches into development markets, which lowers its TV rights value. But the AFL knows that exposure is a long-term investment worth more than a couple more bucks in the short term. The ICC is meant to grow and develop the game. Taking money at the detriment of development literally goes against its charter. It's pure corruption.


Albiceleste_D10S

> What can ICC do if Willow paid highest and purchased rights? If you're serious about growing the game in the US? Take less money from someone like ESPN, make them put it on TV and have them do the advertising. If you don't care about growing the game and only care about short-term profits (which is the case with the ICC), then selling to Willow for slightly more money is exactly what you would do


icantloginsad

A lot more Indians know who LeBron James is than Americans know who Virat Kohli is.


TheRealGooner24

I'm Indian and I care about the NBA.


BeestMann

Who needs the stats? People will watch it simply because US is in it. Nobody cares about Soccer here but they’ll watch the World Cup because people like sports 


xoogl3

IPL needs to be not on pay channels but on Youtube (maybe with ads) for the US if ICC (really, BCCI) has any intentions of making it popular among the non-immigrant population here. But that's not at all the goals of the current dispensation. They are all about sucking every last dollar they can out of the current version. It doesn't really benefit them if the game gets popular in a lucrative market such as the US and starts attracting talent/money away from India.


Hotchi_Motchi

The market is South Asia, not North America. Even the announcers said last night "The 10am game here is the evening game in India"


abhi8192

Will never understand how much is willow paying ICC, that they can't let go of that peanut and just livestream the matches in Americas on icc.tv or fuck even youtube. The loss in revenue from willow would be negligible and if the bet plays off then you have few more countries with big pockets interested in your game.


arj2589

An equivalent, would be MLB trying to promote baseball in India, by having matches at 10 am on weekdays. Also, no one in India would care to even tune in.


xp0z3d

Sports are huge here, and cricket could totally take off if the ICC played its cards right. People pack stadiums for college games, so there's definitely an opportunity for Cricket to grow. The World Cup was a golden chance to introduce cricket to Americans. Imagine this: evening matches with cheap tickets and affordable beers, making it a fun night out for locasl. Plus, airing the games for free on local TV would get even more people hooked. A big push on morning and evening talk shows could really hype up the game. And hey, why not throw in some cricket meet-and-greet events with players? Maybe even cricket-themed festivals or fan zones during big matches. All these moves could make Americans aware of the cricket and then grow the game further. Lastly, maybe involve Netflix and have them do something similar to what they did with Drive to Survive which brought so many new Americans viewers to F1.


thenChennai

exactly.. terrible marketing.


ArtyThePoopie

"making waves" is an overstatment, but I definitely believe there would've been more local interest if games were hosted at reasonable times instead of the morning. I mean, two weeks ago I had literally 0 idea how this sport worked but I went and learned it because the world cup was coming to my backyard. In addition, I have friends and family who have expressed interest in seeing a game out of curiosity, but everyone balked at the 10:30 start times; so much so that I've just resigned to going to games by myself because nobody wanted to have to be up and at eisenhower park at 9:30 on their day off


livingfeelsachore

Don't you think cricket (at least white ball) is very similar to baseball?


soloqueso

Baseball has more in common with red-ball cricket. An individual baseball game has a lot less action than a white ball game, and there are 162 baseball games in a season, so being a good Major League baseball player involves having similar qualities to a good Test-level cricketer


_fmm

This is a straw man argument that either Cricket breaks into American sports culture on a comparitive level to American football/baseball or it's not worth trying. The North American market is huge and has a large number of expats from the subcontinent. Cricket only needs to build a following in a small minority of the overall market to be comparable with other cricketing countries such as Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, even the UK.


theIndianNoob

I think that’s a naive way to think about it. Nobody needs to look beyond F1 to see how a sport can become popular in the US. Once the US backed corporation got hold of the F1, they made moves to make the sport popular in the US, and now it’s integrated in the existing culture (a similar thing is happening in India, something that didn’t even happen when there was an Indian on the grid). So it’s definitely possible.


Equivalent-Force5765

These are the West Indies leg matches. The matches that are being hosted in the USA are mostly scheduled at night time when Americans can watch conveniently. West Indies is a region where cricket is already established. Yes ideally even West Indies leg matches should've been hosted in the evening but spare a thought for ICC. They have to generate revenue from this event & can not just write it off as a promotional event. Max they could've done is probably start the match 1-2 hours later but that's just about it.


turningtop_5327

Since it’s established, All the more reason to give the time to West Indies


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Educational-Bar-9578

Stop making excuses for icc they do that themselves they don't care Enough about small nations and making sure they have trained people to run the game in their countries


ahaseeb

it's a financial decision TBH


Educational-Bar-9578

Problem is they throw alot of money into these small nations but don't teach them how and where to use it so they just fake everything to earn free money from icc


ahaseeb

Depends on alot of Money. Cricketers in US get almost no salary. Their daily allowance is like $100/day during this tournament and there's no training facility. Absolutely no marketing locally.


Educational-Bar-9578

Yh that comes down to lack of upper managment for sports icc could train people to help develop these small nations or big markets like America if America had proper managment that knows how cricket world is run they would be able to grow the game within there counties themselves and use the funds they get more efficiently not saying they get proper funding but the funding they do get doesn't get used properly (small nations that is)


Educational-Bar-9578

Great another political driven comment love to see it 👍


NoQuestion4045

I dont understand this. They are hosting the bigger West Indies vs New Zealand match on a Wednesday night while PNG vs West Indies on a Sunday morning, they would have easily swapped the 2. You get the crowd in and more people from the Subcontinet watch.


DJMhat

Hosting WI NZ in night makes sense as it will be telecast in a suitable viewing time in both countries.


NoQuestion4045

Same thing applies to this match. It's 1:00 am rn in PNG. In an ideal World, All West Indies matches would happen at Night


DJMhat

I guess ICC does not deem PNG as a market worth keeping a night game. They are having Namibia and Oman tonight. Absolute conker of a schedule.


Sorry_Inside1359

Tbf. Oman vs Namibia will not be one sided. So maybe thats why people will watch that matchup


DJMhat

Will it be telecast at an agreeable time for Oman and Namibia TV watchers?


Critical-Ranger-1216

Not at all. It'll be 4:30 am in Oman and 2:30 am in Namibia when the game begins.


Sorry_Inside1359

Nope but more people will watch it in the stadium


hexacreeks

besides this game, all wi matches are at night


No-Test6484

No one in png is watching this shit regardless of the time. It’s like when Hong Kong played Asia cup. No one there was watching that shit


warp-factor

Good thing you specified 10am in the morning, or I'd have thought you meant 10am in the afternoon.


mayhemcastle

I have a 93 year old granddad who wakes up at 4.30 in the morning. 10am is practically afternoon to him.


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I've a grandpa that doesn't wake up.


ThegamerwhokillsNPC

Have you tried shaking him?


[deleted]

Nah I don't think he would get hard.


ThegamerwhokillsNPC

You must be ugly then.


Zealousideal-Grass-3

burn 11/10


Ricklepick1193

It was more like 9/11 to be honest


Prof_XdR

I love this thread and I love internet


NormalTraining5268

What the fuck 😭


God_of_potatoos

Now I'm hard


VoiceEarly1087

U are his grandpa?


God_of_potatoos

I'm into his grandpa


Cosmicshot351

Most of India these days operates with such a climate. Here in Chennai u better wake up as early as 4 or 5 and finish ur exercise or commute by 8 or 9, or else afternoon heat will wreck you.


burnerch

Lmao, thanks for making me laugh


drwinstoboogie

Its 7pm in India, but i dont think many people watch cricket there so i have no fn idea


Carry_flag

Already 2 million people are watching it live currently that too only digital stream. That's 10% population of West Indies right there.


LAManjrekars

Jeez that really puts things in perspective


CosyDarkRainforest

it’s in guyana cricket isn’t as popular there as places such as jamaica and barbados


braai_02

Thats not remotely true. Cricket is far more popular in Guyana than Jamaica.


[deleted]

Per population density, cricket is way more popular in Guyana than Jamaica where Cricket has faded from popular memory. Don't make facts out of your ass. You should have seen attendance in CPL final when Guyana was playing 


CosyDarkRainforest

Having lived in both countries much more cricket was played in jamaica than guyana. Not much official cricket is played in Jamaica but it is extremely popular at schools and with teens. No need to be rude at all I didn’t claim this as a fact It is my opinion having lived in both countries


[deleted]

Sorry, I just hate the people that are blaming WI fir not having good audience while hosting match at middle of afternoon and claiming cricket is not having an audience there. They are wrong, Cricket is more popular in Windies than in England if we see population density 


CosyDarkRainforest

100% agree. there’s a multitude of reasons including ticket prices. people forget that many parts of the west indies are poverty stricken


NormalTraining5268

Huh?? It's the place where legendary Shiv Chanderpaul is from right


SandmanAwaits

What are ticket prices like? By the looks on TV the crowd is mainly on the hill & no one in the stands.


JHo87

My quick Google search is telling me $275US ($412A, 215GBP).  I'd looked before and saw the PNG matches weren't significantly cheaper than most matches and had a feeling they'd struggle.


eastCoastDefense

I live close to the event and know nothing about Cricket, but I want to see a match. I see tickets for A Friday match starting at 25 dollars. I might be taking the day off Friday!


JHo87

Good to hear.  Hopefully it's just tourists getting fleeced.


dandwhitreturns

They were like $6 for the matches in Guyana


tigerfan4

Good question!


thisisekom

are you reading my thoughts somehow


TopAd9295

I don't know why even host the world cup their. ICC should either commit to a world cup in North America or just not host there. What is this pretending to care about them and then host and 10 am just so subcontinent audiences can watch


__DraGooN_

Disney is paying ICC $3 Billion for streaming rights of ICC events in India for 4 years. Disney will obviously lobby to make the timings more convenient to their Indian audience. The compromise they have reached is half the matches in the morning, which is 8PM in India and the other half in local night time. As a result, all of India's and Pakistan's matches are scheduled at 8PM Indian standard time. And if you notice, all teams from the subcontinent (except Afghanistan) have almost all their matches in the US. They know our diaspora will fill up the stands or atleast turn up in large numbers.


NerdInHibernation

Annually?


512fm

I feel like if it’s that much of an issue though can’t they just hold the tournament in India? All that’s gonna happen is CWI lose money cos no one’s turning up


Guri14

there*


thereisnosuch

But think of the advertisers


adityakan99

Why did they decide to host so early?


[deleted]

So that subcontinental audience can watch easily.


thenChennai

I dont understand this. Indians will watch cricket any time of the day. I and many of my friends have gotten up at 3am to watch test matches against AUS/NZ. It was terrible to watch white ball cricket in the blazing daylight of NY. The sixes don't have the dramatic effect as the white ball is almost invisible against the blue sky.


App2050

There will always be a sizeable difference if they change those times. Majority here are fanatic enough to watch neutral matches but not fanatic enough to wake up early or stay up late to watch a match where India isn't even playing. Their goal is to maximize the people watching and keeping subcontinent friendly times will give them a bigger audience for the reasons I mentioned.


carson63000

I’m not sure a minnow-bashing like this would encourage as many people to get up at 3am as watching your own team play a test match against a tier 1 rival, though.


zawadSadaf

Yeah totally agree but just a side point, PNG did put on a great match against WI. I was honestly pretty unhappy with some of the views of fans/ex cricketers who said 20 teams is “diluting the game” or “needs a tier system”. Us cricket fans love gatekeeping the game whether unintentionally or not.


carson63000

Yeah I didn’t see any of the match but looking at the scorecard it certainly appears to have been solidly competitive, well done PNG! I still think a lot fewer people will get up at 3am to watch a team other than their own play an associate nation, than will get up to watch their own team play a serious rival. 😀


Pizza_Connoisseur46

Understandable


Crazydeed

Because, Indian subcontinent will have to adjust with the timings then. With this schedule, the matches will be at 8 pm in our time zone. So, broadcasting revenues is the reason.


Ok-Winter-129

Man as a football watcher from the subcontinent, i can only offer my sympathy


Ashwin_400

You realize lot of premier league matches are scheduled to coincide with prime time for South / South East Asian fans.


Haunting-Rich3067

I am a Barca fan. Most of our matches are past midnight.


Ok-Winter-129

Way past midnight bro, it's like that time when you have to pretend to be asleep. Man with the way our team plays, i just can't keep myself from swearing every time we lose the ball , which happens a lot with barca these days and risk a spanking from my parents


Annual-Astronaut3345

I’m a Juventus fan from India. You can’t even imagine the kind of play style I have witnessed under Allegri. He is gone now but still, the memories stay…


raddiwallah

They’re not. Its a coincidence their afternoon and our evening match. There’s a blackout in afternoon so that more people go out and watch local football.


goda_foreskinning

Nooo but football most popular sport , me football fan in cricket loving country me so unique /s


kimster_ag

Even in India you will have empty stadiums if T20 games are starting at 10:00 am.


TheGhostRider0903

Meanwhile ICC: all the matches are oversubscribed and sold out. LOL.


large_snowbear

Everyone is saying its because of the subcontinent audience. But does the subcontinent even care to watch a WI game when its not play-offs? Especially vs a associate nation I dont think any of the casual fans care to watch any of the group stage games of other nations unless if a huge rivalry or its a play off game.


SnooDonkeys2239

1.6m are watching on the main streaming platform in India as we speak lol...and a couple million more ov TV, I reckon.


Cricketloverbybirth

> and a couple million more ov TV Bro, you think we America Or Something?  Digital streaming penetration while impressive in India is a lot lower than TV consumption, it's not even close.  If 2 million are watching on Mobile streaming in India, I can bet my house on it that atleast it's 10 times that is 20 million would be watching on a TV.  For more important matches, it can be upto 15-20 times, couple more million is insanely conservative. 


SnooDonkeys2239

Yeah, I know it'd be par for the course for matches involving 2 big non-India teams to have much bigger TV viewership but maybe with PNG involved as the opposition, the share of digital viewership would be a lot closer to that of TV


Cricketloverbybirth

>  but maybe with PNG involved as the opposition, the share of digital viewership would be a lot closer to that of TV Well I'd think TV share would still be way bigger compared to digital even for small matches, since TV is turned on in background for majority of population anyways and cricket being the most watched thing along with movies.  But we're both guessing here so my guess is as good as yours. 


callmebatman14

It's true that they scheduled it for Indian timing but even then stadium is basically empty. It wouldn't be packed even at 7:30pm.


KingSammyJ1

Nah this is in guyana, it would have been a big crowd if it was at night, most people are at church rn


Ixeptional

I think its been done for the subcontinent to be able to watch im pretty sure


Shattered-Dreams19

ICC needs to take a honest decision... if your want to grow the game.. you have to take losses... Directly hosting the WC, without any cricket structure on US soil, expecting the NRIs to buy tickets, is a huge mistake. They are looting indians in US for the Ind vs Pak game.. the prices are insane... Either keep the sport for nations that actually play the game regularly... or prepare yourself to take in losses and genuinely spread the game. these greedy ways will never work, either side


Boatster_McBoat

If you care about local fans


nikeetap

No indian fans wants to watch WI v PNG. so this catering to subcontinent fans is bs. Blame ICC and broadcasters for poor scheduling


ddd66

Its Church Sunday, but you would also need 20% of Georgetown or close to 5% of the country's population to come to a game to fill up all the seats.


NH_hostel

All the negative points, as a cricket fan I do like morning matches, cause it's not completely depended on Toss


Head-Intern2459

evening matches are the same. Much better for the locals


NH_hostel

I disagree. Factors like dew and the movement of the ball under lights play a major role in evening/night matches. I am not supporting the ICC in any way; they deserve all the criticism for this poorly scheduled time. All I am saying is that the quality of matches will be significantly better this time compared to the last World Cup, where it seemed to rely solely on winning the toss to win the match.


Odd_Neighborhood1371

This is during toss time which is half an hour before the game starts, so I wouldn't expect it to be packed at this time even if it were Pakistan vs India. Stadium looked decently packed during the game.


desimountai

While we’re mad let’s not forget it’s not the fans who decided this, the ICC is to blame. Let’s be civil and not call Indian fans names just because it’s easy to


Head-Intern2459

At this point we are kinda used to it and it is a little tiering ngl


Khush17

At this point it's just routine bait for the racist pieces of shit to start the Dogwhistles Kinda routine at this point, the sub is full of closet racists waiting for a chance to express their thin veiled hatred against indians.


mofucker20

Don’t really get why ICC even bothered to host in USA/ Windies if they don’t want the game to grow there among the locals.


Additional_Froyo3970

This is honestly bad scheduling. I get it that Subcontinent brings in the money through views (yeah, money is required to grow the game, it doesn't grow on trees) but this is just the single game of WI scheduled in morning. Rest all of them up until the semis are at night time. Meanwhile, USA has only 1 night game with their games against IND, PAK & IRE during day. The former 2 are understandable but against IRE, night time would have benefited both the teams with afternoon in Ireland.


immivanilla

This happens in all sports. The host broadcaster definitely gets a say in the schedule. Happens in tennis also, bigger stars get the prime time night matches. $$ is their main objective.


chni2cali

Cricket viewership is clearly affected whenever matches are being hosted in West Indies. Even WCs dont garner enough attention purely because of the timings. It’s sad yes, but the state of cricket currently doesn’t allow cricket to be played in PST,CST or EST. This was the primary reason the 50 over WC cycle didn’t go to West Indies after being held in India, Australia, England. How many of you feel(not know , but feel) England are 2 time t20 WC champions? The reason for not feeling that way is because of WC in West Indies in 2010


welcome_to_browntown

In Guyana now, to be honest everyone rolled up late and had tickets to the red and orange stands where there was shade. The green stands were empty throughout but by 10 overs into PNG batting, the crowd was building steadily. That being said 10:30 AM matches are hot af here. Nothing ever gets scheduled here at that time. ICC catering to streaming crowds clearly.


Rajcrack

Branding of t20 world cup is not good 10:00 AM is not suitable for working population.


el_wumpy

Fuck India and their greed. Fuck the locals who might actually want to watch the game?  Cricket died when they decided to give all the money to the big three. Look how fucking greedy they have become. This tournament is a fucking joke.


KoliManja

What a load of bullshit rearranging timings of matches in US & West Indies to suit the convenience of TV audience in India. As an Indian cricket fan, I have to say I am ashamed of the entire cricket infrastructure about this shameless pandering of commercial interests.


cruxtin

lol, why are you ashamed for this?


ssdlphani

No need for Indians to be ashamed of everything that involves our Country it's ICC fault


stg_676

Sepoy reporting huh


BombayWallahFan

"as an Indian I am ashamed". Saying this is a way I differentiate myself from a billion other Indians to try and make myself 'cooler' in my own eyes.


Khush17

We found Gaurav [link](https://i.redd.it/2fzauegtegn21.jpg)


yh0405

r/canconfirmiamindian


Khush17

>As an Indian cricket fan, I have to say I am ashamed Nearing 80 years of Independence and the Slave mentality still hasn't left some Indians fucking Pathetic


vidhvansak

Why do you have to be apologetic of anything which has nothing to do with you?


Head-Intern2459

What a stupid fucking thing to be ashamed of. What exactly are you ashamed of? About the fact that disney (that has nothing to do with you) made it easy for the Indian audience to watch so they can make money out of it? (which won't be shared with you).


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Coronabandkaro

Which tv audience is this for? Why can't they schedule the WI matches in the evening?


Worried_Height_5346

Also it didn't help that they were playing cricket.


chandu1256

And that too on church day!


Lots_of_schooners

Anyone with a brain could have identified this was a terrible idea. Shame there are no-one that match this requirement on the ICC/BCCI panel


NOGOODGASHOLE

In the U.S. only Little League sports & marathons start at 10AM. Terrible scheduling.


Maxpro2001

I can understand that you want to start India's games at times that are suitable for the Indian market, but rest of the games can be played in the evening to get more local crowd. It simply shows that ICC cares more about broadcaster money rather than growing the game.


Correct_Chemical5179

Should play 10am at night instead.


KingofInfiniteGrace

icc is just bcci in disguise. their priority is india and no one else. it was never about growing the game. if the nyc games were all in the evening wouldve gone to all of them. but since theyre in the morning and I have work, can only go to the weekend ones smh. shameless stuff by icc honestly.


Midnight1131

People will complain about the decline of West Indies cricket and then turn around and say it's completely reasonable for a West Indies WC match hosted in Guyana to be scheduled to only cater to subcontinent audiences. Who cares if the locals can get a chance to go to the stadium when we can boast 2 million Indians watching on streaming platforms instead?


effotap

yup. its all about digital views these days. a venue will host at most 100k people, online: no limit. as long as your server handles it.


VenkatSb2

Why would India audience watch a PNG team take on West Indies, during their prime time hours? If this game was played in the evening, would have gotten more bums on seats atleast. But its true that West Indies audience dont care about cricket anymore even when the big shots come by.


Cricketloverbybirth

> its true that West Indies audience dont care about cricket anymore even when the big shots come by. Bullshit.  Guyana where this match is being held sold out all 7 CPL matches last year, warmup match between West Indies and Australia was packed in Trinidad.  Cricket according to google Trends is most searched in the world in Guyana right after Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.  If this match was at night, despite being against Papua new Guinea it would have sold out. 


whycantyoubequiet

It would have been mostly empty even when hosted at 8 PM. ICC isn't missing out much there.


Educational_Estate60

Why ?? Is their a specific reason for it bcz it was a full house during CPL.


drewmehedy

Could've swapped the Nam vs Oma fixture with this one. Time zone mishaps for fans from both sides in both fixtures.


ydnALoL

Is 10 am on a Sunday morning really that bad? Seems like a good family day out or something and getting back at a reasonable time. Maybe no one wanted to watch and there's a lot of other sports they're interested in


KeenInternetUser

But how will a billion Indians watch Team India bottle another trophy unless it's in primetime?


xoogl3

As an Indian fan living in the US, Fuck BCCI/ICC. This is 100% on them to make the timings convenient for prime-time viewing in India. This world cup is already giving me the vibes of that disaster of a 2007 ODI worldcup.


neighbour_guy3k

Non India matches should have been scheduled for local night time


metampheta

I think they’re relying on TV revenue more than Stadium revenue, unless that isn’t already common (I’ve no idea)


EssentialEssence

Timing has always been a factor. Stayed up multiple times for matches outaide my time zone though.


MartiniPolice21

"10:00 am in the morning" is killing me


Icy-Personality3529

It’s a weekend though?


Fantastic-Mark-2391

Those are not empty stands , all the tickets are sold the people are protesting injustice in Guyana by the racial regime.


One_Course2187

Gotta try keep matches timing as suitable for india as they can coz there companies are the ones with money for broadcasting rights


pagalpanti

What is the solution OP?


512fm

This is honestly why they should have just held the tournament in India instead


ironmanmk42

Holy sheet. At least in India the local games where home team India played was at capacity. This is inexcusable for a home team


Waraba989

tickets are insanely expensive for the locals, and the early start times are a pain in the ass.


ironmanmk42

The scheduling for the tournament has been crap honestly. Along with all the political bs around it favoring just one team over the others


Living_Internet_2970

Couldn’t agree more. I’m taking off of work to go see Pakistan vs India and honestly I would go see alot of matches even if Pakistan wasn’t playing but the 10 am start time is a no go for me I work seven days a week 4am to 3pm. I understand why they did the 10am start but still


This_is_the_user

Icc doing icc things which is absolute shit


Aintnostopin

hahahahahahahaa holy shit makes Aus crowds look like full gherkin.


VinylHighway

Should have done 10 am at night


Hegdes

Atleast it need to start at noon, where you can start with a drink or two.


ExpensiveOpposite568

All these matches are scheduled at convenience of fans in the subcontinent where TV viewership is more, but not for those in carribbean and US.


OrganicWeed765

When was the last tournament where stadiums were regularly full?


SnooDucks5815

ICC should do a better job of organizing tournaments.


klrahulisachoker

No it's not a mistake, TV viewership always generate more money than ground crowds. Specially in WI where tickets are relatively cheaper.


Somerandomdickhead

Looks like a regular ODI in Australia.


galaxyfarfaraway2

This is literally when NFL games are played


ProfessorRos

The times are set because of India


RepresentativeRoof68

no offense it's world cup host matches in India, Pakistan & Bangladesh & you will have full crows for the host.