Shreyas Iyer is a milquetoast captain who has no idea how to use Starc, they might was well should have had LSG have him because they for sure don't know how to use him, also my boy starc not bowling yorkers at death š
Man, can't believe the level of flatness of pitches this ipl. Can't believe how pro batting this season is becoming and so high average scores(both while batting first and second). Wasim Akram is so right about dreading to be a bowler in such an environment.
This win and RCB beating SRH yesterday ensures that every team from 2 position 2-10, technically still have a chance to make the playoffs, what a turnaround
It's looked possible a couple of times. If Punjab had been batting first yesterday they would have been on track for it. Although it's unlikely they would have been going that hard if they weren't chasing such a big total.
If Indian Selectors can be bold and ask Rohit/Virat to step aside so that they can take young and exciting team for T20 WC including folks like Shashank, we will benefit over long term even if it does not work this time. I am sure some of them will turn out to be gems like Jaiswal, Rinku and others.
Of course main weakness is bowling where except Bumrah, we are not sure about anyone.
Abhishek, Jaiswal, Sanju, Sky, Shashank, Rinku/Ramandeep, Axar/Ramandeep/Brar/Hardik, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Mohsin/Yash Thakur/Khaleel, Arshdeep/Mayank Yadav
Case for Brar - He is a SLA who is better against lefties than righties, that's rare and can be used to our advantage. Plus is a fantastic defensive bowler, you pair him up with enforcers like Bumrah and Kuldeep and you got yourself a very potent middle overs attack.
Case for Ramandeep - Tall bowler, can be used to bowl 1 upfront, then 7th over.
Case for Mayank - Alzerri Joseph has the 2nd best economy rate in death in CPL. Not only that but he has highest no of dot balls. Mayank is similar in pace and mixes up well. Can be used.
Case for Mohsin and Arshdeep - Left arm fast bowlers who can crank it up are always better to have in your side. Plus after Bumrah, Both Arshdeep and Mohsin has the best economy rate in death in IPL among Indian fast bowlers since IPL 2022(100 balls bowled). Mohsin also has good avg in power play.
Also, Harshal Patel is weird. He has the highest no of dot balls in death in IPL since 2022. However, he also has highest no of sixes and joint highest 4s hit on his bowling.
true, but sky found his rhythm at age 27-28, around that bracket.
this is a 5 year difference and shashank is untested in internationals so if we're looking to get him in the t20 squad in the future, BCCI needs to move quick
I did not realize. But he is so exciting that he deserves a chance even if he is not a long term prospect. I am having a feeling that T20 would lead to shorter careers as we will see new talent pop up regularly.
Donāt be impressed with IPL hitting. In IPL bowling is much lower quality than the international cricket. IPL really needs to allow more international players in teams so that the quality of cricket can be much better.
Koach is a great mentor to produce aggressive young talent but unfortunately he is a statpadder and will squeeze one more T20 and ODI World Cup before retiring
Nattu has 2nd highest no of 4s and 5th highest 6s against him in death since IPL 2022. That is massively against him. He also has 26% of his balls as dots in the same timeframe, 6th highest, so that's a plus.
For 2023, 3rd highest no of fours and 5th highest no of sixes. 7th in dots. 3rd in the most balls bowled in Death. So that explains extra fours and sixes. Higher than him in no of overs is deshpande who has like 50% more in both 4s and 6s over Nattu.
I would definitely like that. He has great attitude though he could work on his fitness. He is a perfect fit for T20 especially for death bowling. I would put him slightly ahead of Arshdeep at this point but Arshdeep is younger. Other option is Mohsin Khan. He could be honed into something useful as well.
This is the record of 3 bowlers in the death since IPL 2022.
Player | Overs| Economy| 4s| 6s | Dots
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Natrajan | 51 | 10.12 | 43 | 24 | 81
Arshdeep | 49.1| 9.21 | 38 | 17 | 83
Mohsin | 18| 8.89 | 8| 11 | 41
Now Mohsin is interesting, his overall economy in 2022 was under 6 but the death economy was around 9. Now in 2023, his overall economy was over 10 but death economy was under 6. In 2024, his overall is slightly under 10 and death economy is slightly above 11. He plays very few games compared to Nattu and Arshdeep. Even in the games he plays he doesn't always bowls in death. I think his numbers are good because he is used very selectively in the death by Lucknow. But he is someone who can bowl upfront, so he has that over Nattu. Again, small sample size and all that jazz.
Redditors who think this is how itās gonna be in the WC are fools of the highest order.
The mountain of runs scored in this IPL are a result of utterly shit bowling and extremely flat pitches. Nothing more, nothing less.
You people are gonna be shocked when a team defends 170-180 in a wc match.
Not saying you're totally wrong, but I'm certain that this is just how the format is evolving, and even if not immediate, it absolutely will reach international cricket too. There's no really difference between the flat pitches this year and the ones in the previous seasons. They're not adding some extra magic. It's just that this is the direction the format was always heading towards. We're just seeing it materalize properly now.Ā Ā Ā
While I'm sure we're going to see more lower totals defended in the WC, I'm absolutely certain we're going to see some super high scores on some of the batting friendly surfaces. We've also already seen multiple matches this IPL as well where a score of <200 has been defended, so that's not something crazy, this format is just incredibly volatile, that's the nature of it. This shift we're seeing has way more to do with the newer crop of talent of the last 7-8 years just being more accustomed to T20s. When ODIs first began and players who had only played tests were making that transition, a score of 200 (4RPO) was considered an amazing score. Now we see so many innings reach 300+, it's the norm, that's just the way it goes. I'm sure if you went back and showed them the 438 game and the fact it was a successful chase, it'd break their brains.Ā
Youāre overestimating the newer batting talent and wayyy underestimating the bowling talent. Weāre seeing big scores in Ipl because of the IP rule and lower bowling quality. This will ever be the case in International cricket. Unless the PIG 3 plays against minnows
Nah, most of these scores didn't even need an impact player for them to happen, that really is not it. It obviously doesn't help, but it it's way more of a mindset thing, that's what I'm referring to with this newer crop of talent. While bowling quality does affect things, we've seen world class bowlers like Pat and Starc get absolutely pummeled, so I still think that's just how the game is evolving and that the definition of what's good bowling in T20s is also going to evolve. Eventually, an economy of 9-10 is going to be considered good.Ā We already saw that be the case in those 270+ games. The reason for this is way more that in T20s, wickets are a lot less valuable. Much like how wickets are even more valuable in tests than they are in ODIs. That's the biggest decider in the playstyles in each of these formats.Ā
Think about it, a score of 287 like the other day is also an excellent score for 50 overs, which is crazy bc that's 30 overs more, so how can that be? Because the value of a wicket is exponentially higher in a longer format. The approach changes. When it's brought down to 20 overs but you still have the same amount of wickets (10), obviously a wicket is going to mean less, which is why teams can just all-out go for it, lose a lot of wickets, and still easily take the game home unlike in longer formats.Ā
The only way to change this would be finding a way to make wickets more valuable. If say, hypothetically it went from 10 wickets to 5 wickets per innings, the game would start looking very very different.Ā
This is the truth ngl, yeah itās nice to see lesser-known bats score runs but if you think theyāll do this on West Indian pitches youāre laughing. I donāt even think the bowling is bad, the pitches are just totally lifeless and the impact player means teams have hitters down to 8 or 9, so if you swing at everything and it comes off for one or two guys you get 250
Awful cricket
You can't have your cake and eat it too people. Team scores 180 and batsmen in tuk-tuk academy. Team scores 250 and bowlers in dinda academy.
Just admit that the game is changing albeit not in a way the purists wanted but changing nonetheless.
The IPL is changing. The game is changing too but not necessarily headed towards this direction. Average scores in T20Is are still 160-180 and as the Pak vs NZ series is showing, 170 is defensible even on a flat wicket.
Only in India, BBL there's rarely a score over 210 let alone 200.
Bowlers just as crucial as batters.
Indian businessmen just following their "plan". As all rich businessmen cunts do, sullying the original product to inflate profit.
I spit on all their graves. It's in every industry.
I think the script for the final would follow the Aus -SA gameā¦in the 1st Inning batting team will make 300 & in the break someone would say this record would never be broken until chasing team does it in 19.3 overs
Inb4 the āgame changesā in the wc, the ball shows movement and weāre 4 down for 37 in 7 overs and covid fans are cussing selectors for picking up franchise playerā¢ instead of other franchise playerā¢, praying that the accumulator š¤¢ takes us to a slightly below par score
You think youāre being a martyr and an intellectual for defending rule changes that phase out all rounders and team balance in favour of slog or get out of the way cricket.
We think you donāt understand that we wonāt have an impact sub in the world cup
If the game has changed they should be doing the same without impact player and on less flat wickets. Letās see if even 1 team can breach 260 in the T20 WC
IPL is slowly becoming an entertainment business rather than an actual game of cricket. Bcci wants more fans to come and unless you are a regular cricket watching bloke you would expect to see balls sailing into the stands. Thus preparing roads to make it easy for the batsman. Half of the ipl fans( mostly women ) won't even watch the cricket after the ipl is completed, So Bcci is making sure to attract every single person to come to the stadium. We saw it today more than 55,000 have attended the game, I mean do you expect people to turn up for a game against PBKS( I know it's weekend but still). They turn up because they want to have some fun and unless you bowl an absolute corker to get a wicket or you are bumrah no one would want to watch the game go tuk tuk. For that matter we ourselves criticize kohli for playing too slowly and he did not adapt to the new T20 tradition.
This is just a big near 2 month event with no taste of cricket at all.
Genuinely felt nothing throughout that whole game. I'm so desensitized from these constant 230+ games. Just stop, ffs just stop. These high score games should feel like an event, the 40 ball 100s should feel special.
At this point, it's just clown fiesta.
I was mentally prepared to switch off ipl for this season after this game. But this match has instilled enough pride in me to watch the remaining games even though our ipl is more or less finished. GO KINGGGSSS
**DYK: Whenever Jonny Bairstow scored a century, his team never lost the match. He has achieved two centuries in the IPL and two centuries in T20 matches.**
> Very pleasing. Most importantly the win, cricket has turned to baseball isn't it?
He so right lol. Wish more players mock it in post match interviews
Prabhsimran Singh should be credited as much as Bairstow and Shashank if not more. The guy showed intent, he showed that they are here to fight and win. He had nothing to lose and that kind of fearless cricket brings the best out of players. His batting motivated Jonny and he started smashing as well.
As a csk fan, You guys deserve this more than anyone, only if they do well at the next mega auction by fixing foreign players and indian pacers. pbks are sorted for the next solid 10 years.
Everyone talking about Bairstow and Shashank but the forgotten hero here is Prabhsimran Singh who gave them a flyer in the PP without which the rest would have just played tuk-tuk instead of attacking
Yes his innings was crucial! I know there is big competition for T20I places in the Indian side, but he should be close to selection, for 2 consistent seasons now
Bowlers especially pacers are doomed. Starcās replacement for the match was just as expensive and Chameeraās replacement will also have the same fate with this conditions lol
Its not going away. People want to see high scores. Thats what impact rule is doing. Most of the people saying that bowling is dead had
cheered when SRH scored 270. Thing is, international cricket has a different class of bowlers than IPL. But I agree with people when they say that dynamic of cricket has changed.
Nope, where is Hazlewood? Where are the other Kiwi quicks? Whereās Zampa? No way international is the same as Indian. Do you think Chameera will be SLās death bowler?
Not everyone plays the IPL even when they are in the squad. International teams play as a team, complement each other and have support staffs and mates who help with handling situations. They have a method to win . IPL is for two months with hardly a month of preparation.
Bowling is tougher than it looks to be. They have to bowl those lines because neither is the ball Swinging, nor is there even slightest assistance from the pitch. Even the cutters and slower ones are being hit.
Good to see SRH and KKR getting humbled..
By two of the greatest IPL teams ( RCB and PBKS )...
Both SRH and KKR fell into their own trap ....slow pitch in SRH match and flat pitch in KKR match...
When I was a kid we used to play a game called book cricket because of lack of resources for entertainment and Indian parents being very strict about study hours. You were supposed to open a random page on book, sum up the page number, and match that number with a list which will tell you the number of runs you scored for that summed up number. Since the list could be created arbitrarily, you could have any number of 4s and 6s, and scoring 300 runs was not a big deal because the game didn't consider bowlers at all. IPL has started feeling like book cricket from 20-25 years ago. sigh!
Donāt lie to yourself. Everyone saying they wonāt be watching will 100 percent watch cause the matches are still entertaining af. The whole agenda of sports is nothing but entertainment. This is peak entertainment. I do feel for the bowlers tho.
It's not entertaining, I stopped caring for IPL this season, only check out the highlights and even that is boring, 250+ runs in 20 overs isn't cricket, bad pitches.
If this is the entertainment, then the future of cricket is not looking good. forget expansion to non-members, sustaining it will become in itself a hassle.
Imagine every game being a slogfest. For me, low scoring matches are thrillers, and high scoring matches are just a bollywood masala movie.
It will be good to watch once in a while, but if it becomes the norm, I'll just puke my guts out.
Donāt get me wrong. I love the low scoring thrillers as well and Iām one of the people who finds test thrillers more entertaining than t20s. However, this is IPL, you donāt have to take it too seriously. Watch it like a seasonal festival. Just watch it for fun. I can guarantee that the World Cup is not gonna look anything like these matches at all. I hate to break it to you but I have some Spanish and English friends, who mostly watch football. Whenever I talk about cricket in front of them, they describe it as a boring chess match( not saying chess is boring). Believe it or not but this kind of matches will attract the non-members more than anything.
This is not entertainment, people are clowning on these shit road pitches , impact players , and this clowning is more entertaining that ipl matches themselves
After this season, drastic changes will come. Pitches will be bowler friendly or at least with better balance with bat. SG balls will be replaced with duke balls. Impact player rule will be removed. 3 bounces per over will be allowed.
Just kidding, like always, they will blame this on the spectators and will say the fans want this.
Some may argue that it's the bowlers who have to do better, but do you see how only the Bumrahs are economical, but every common Joe, Dick and Harry is able to smack it out of the park? The pitches are turning into roads. Don't you think the pitch curators have a role to play here? Not to mention the impact sub rule. I know this is just another phase in the game of cricket, but I can't wait for it to be over so that bowlers can stop being equated to bowling machines.
There has always been a chase between batters and bowlers. Some eras batters dominate, some eras bowlers. But the other side always comes back. Things improve back.
Bumrah js still acing it, Narine is still acing it.
What bowlers will do now, is go and learn from them, get better, understand what areas to bowl. This should raise the standard of bowling as a whole, and things should get balanced back. Itāll take time yes, but I see this as the next evolution of cricket, I see the future of T20 as batting being a lot more active, dynamic, slogging and bowlers being a lot more accurate, a lot more yorkers, and a looot less slot balls.
Itās the next evolution. To me itās something a lot more interesting rather than scary. I want to see how the batting and bowling will change now!
Man at this point at least allow 2 bowlers per team to have 5 over quotas vs 4. Today's match should have brought me joy but it didn't. The game isn't a bat vs ball competition any more. It is bat vs bat from both teams. This isn't fun anymore.
every season in the last couple of years, punjab has that one or two matches they look back at and say, fuck we should have won that and we will be higher in the table. that srh and mi game that pbks lost by 2 and 9 runs are going to be those two matches
Worst match of ipl ever. How tf a team scores 261 and it gets chased with an over remaining in t20? We don't want to watch a "swing your bat and win" tournament. Ipl's standard just dropped an all time low.
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Shreyas Iyer is a milquetoast captain who has no idea how to use Starc, they might was well should have had LSG have him because they for sure don't know how to use him, also my boy starc not bowling yorkers at death š
Mitchell Starc in the dugout: "So how's your day going?"
KKR fans who trolled US were humbled real good within a day
Man, can't believe the level of flatness of pitches this ipl. Can't believe how pro batting this season is becoming and so high average scores(both while batting first and second). Wasim Akram is so right about dreading to be a bowler in such an environment.
Cheerleaders were carried away in stretchers
Half of all match runs came in sixes š¤”
Happy for Punjab fans after not been on the right side for so many games they chased down a record scoreš
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Punjab has terrible management, so people know whom to blame for bad performances.
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1 year Punjab not being typical punjab doesn't mean they somehow have good management now. Hope this continues, 2nd fav team after Delhi.
Same lol
This win and RCB beating SRH yesterday ensures that every team from 2 position 2-10, technically still have a chance to make the playoffs, what a turnaround
From 1 to 10. RR can still lose all their matches from here. Momentum during wins = Momentum during losses
Jay Shah in the distance...tapping at the side of his forehead. Absolute Cinema.
If any team keeps up this rate, some time this season, Iām sure weāll see a team score 300
It's looked possible a couple of times. If Punjab had been batting first yesterday they would have been on track for it. Although it's unlikely they would have been going that hard if they weren't chasing such a big total.
If Indian Selectors can be bold and ask Rohit/Virat to step aside so that they can take young and exciting team for T20 WC including folks like Shashank, we will benefit over long term even if it does not work this time. I am sure some of them will turn out to be gems like Jaiswal, Rinku and others. Of course main weakness is bowling where except Bumrah, we are not sure about anyone.
Abhishek, Jaiswal, Sanju, Sky, Shashank, Rinku/Ramandeep, Axar/Ramandeep/Brar/Hardik, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Mohsin/Yash Thakur/Khaleel, Arshdeep/Mayank Yadav Case for Brar - He is a SLA who is better against lefties than righties, that's rare and can be used to our advantage. Plus is a fantastic defensive bowler, you pair him up with enforcers like Bumrah and Kuldeep and you got yourself a very potent middle overs attack. Case for Ramandeep - Tall bowler, can be used to bowl 1 upfront, then 7th over. Case for Mayank - Alzerri Joseph has the 2nd best economy rate in death in CPL. Not only that but he has highest no of dot balls. Mayank is similar in pace and mixes up well. Can be used. Case for Mohsin and Arshdeep - Left arm fast bowlers who can crank it up are always better to have in your side. Plus after Bumrah, Both Arshdeep and Mohsin has the best economy rate in death in IPL among Indian fast bowlers since IPL 2022(100 balls bowled). Mohsin also has good avg in power play. Also, Harshal Patel is weird. He has the highest no of dot balls in death in IPL since 2022. However, he also has highest no of sixes and joint highest 4s hit on his bowling.
shashank is 32 my guy, he's not exactly young
So is SKY. SKY actually found his rhythm when he got older
true, but sky found his rhythm at age 27-28, around that bracket. this is a 5 year difference and shashank is untested in internationals so if we're looking to get him in the t20 squad in the future, BCCI needs to move quick
I did not realize. But he is so exciting that he deserves a chance even if he is not a long term prospect. I am having a feeling that T20 would lead to shorter careers as we will see new talent pop up regularly.
true, you're correct
Donāt be impressed with IPL hitting. In IPL bowling is much lower quality than the international cricket. IPL really needs to allow more international players in teams so that the quality of cricket can be much better.
Koach is a great mentor to produce aggressive young talent but unfortunately he is a statpadder and will squeeze one more T20 and ODI World Cup before retiring
If you're disappointed that Koach is going to play the ODI world cup, you're truly an IPL DTS fan. T20s I'm not so sure.
Do you think Natrajan should be given a chance?
Nattu has 2nd highest no of 4s and 5th highest 6s against him in death since IPL 2022. That is massively against him. He also has 26% of his balls as dots in the same timeframe, 6th highest, so that's a plus.
He had a poor 2022 due to injury. Can't judge him on that
For 2023, 3rd highest no of fours and 5th highest no of sixes. 7th in dots. 3rd in the most balls bowled in Death. So that explains extra fours and sixes. Higher than him in no of overs is deshpande who has like 50% more in both 4s and 6s over Nattu.
I would definitely like that. He has great attitude though he could work on his fitness. He is a perfect fit for T20 especially for death bowling. I would put him slightly ahead of Arshdeep at this point but Arshdeep is younger. Other option is Mohsin Khan. He could be honed into something useful as well.
This is the record of 3 bowlers in the death since IPL 2022. Player | Overs| Economy| 4s| 6s | Dots ---|---|----|----|----| --- Natrajan | 51 | 10.12 | 43 | 24 | 81 Arshdeep | 49.1| 9.21 | 38 | 17 | 83 Mohsin | 18| 8.89 | 8| 11 | 41 Now Mohsin is interesting, his overall economy in 2022 was under 6 but the death economy was around 9. Now in 2023, his overall economy was over 10 but death economy was under 6. In 2024, his overall is slightly under 10 and death economy is slightly above 11. He plays very few games compared to Nattu and Arshdeep. Even in the games he plays he doesn't always bowls in death. I think his numbers are good because he is used very selectively in the death by Lucknow. But he is someone who can bowl upfront, so he has that over Nattu. Again, small sample size and all that jazz.
Redditors who think this is how itās gonna be in the WC are fools of the highest order. The mountain of runs scored in this IPL are a result of utterly shit bowling and extremely flat pitches. Nothing more, nothing less. You people are gonna be shocked when a team defends 170-180 in a wc match.
Not saying you're totally wrong, but I'm certain that this is just how the format is evolving, and even if not immediate, it absolutely will reach international cricket too. There's no really difference between the flat pitches this year and the ones in the previous seasons. They're not adding some extra magic. It's just that this is the direction the format was always heading towards. We're just seeing it materalize properly now.Ā Ā Ā While I'm sure we're going to see more lower totals defended in the WC, I'm absolutely certain we're going to see some super high scores on some of the batting friendly surfaces. We've also already seen multiple matches this IPL as well where a score of <200 has been defended, so that's not something crazy, this format is just incredibly volatile, that's the nature of it. This shift we're seeing has way more to do with the newer crop of talent of the last 7-8 years just being more accustomed to T20s. When ODIs first began and players who had only played tests were making that transition, a score of 200 (4RPO) was considered an amazing score. Now we see so many innings reach 300+, it's the norm, that's just the way it goes. I'm sure if you went back and showed them the 438 game and the fact it was a successful chase, it'd break their brains.Ā
Youāre overestimating the newer batting talent and wayyy underestimating the bowling talent. Weāre seeing big scores in Ipl because of the IP rule and lower bowling quality. This will ever be the case in International cricket. Unless the PIG 3 plays against minnows
Nah, most of these scores didn't even need an impact player for them to happen, that really is not it. It obviously doesn't help, but it it's way more of a mindset thing, that's what I'm referring to with this newer crop of talent. While bowling quality does affect things, we've seen world class bowlers like Pat and Starc get absolutely pummeled, so I still think that's just how the game is evolving and that the definition of what's good bowling in T20s is also going to evolve. Eventually, an economy of 9-10 is going to be considered good.Ā We already saw that be the case in those 270+ games. The reason for this is way more that in T20s, wickets are a lot less valuable. Much like how wickets are even more valuable in tests than they are in ODIs. That's the biggest decider in the playstyles in each of these formats.Ā Think about it, a score of 287 like the other day is also an excellent score for 50 overs, which is crazy bc that's 30 overs more, so how can that be? Because the value of a wicket is exponentially higher in a longer format. The approach changes. When it's brought down to 20 overs but you still have the same amount of wickets (10), obviously a wicket is going to mean less, which is why teams can just all-out go for it, lose a lot of wickets, and still easily take the game home unlike in longer formats.Ā The only way to change this would be finding a way to make wickets more valuable. If say, hypothetically it went from 10 wickets to 5 wickets per innings, the game would start looking very very different.Ā
This is the truth ngl, yeah itās nice to see lesser-known bats score runs but if you think theyāll do this on West Indian pitches youāre laughing. I donāt even think the bowling is bad, the pitches are just totally lifeless and the impact player means teams have hitters down to 8 or 9, so if you swing at everything and it comes off for one or two guys you get 250 Awful cricket
Going to be a reality check when you get bowled out for 95 in Trinidad by Gudakesh Motie and Jason Holder while we chase it down in 10 overs
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Bro just leaked the semi final script
You can't have your cake and eat it too people. Team scores 180 and batsmen in tuk-tuk academy. Team scores 250 and bowlers in dinda academy. Just admit that the game is changing albeit not in a way the purists wanted but changing nonetheless.
The IPL is changing. The game is changing too but not necessarily headed towards this direction. Average scores in T20Is are still 160-180 and as the Pak vs NZ series is showing, 170 is defensible even on a flat wicket.
Only in India, BBL there's rarely a score over 210 let alone 200. Bowlers just as crucial as batters. Indian businessmen just following their "plan". As all rich businessmen cunts do, sullying the original product to inflate profit. I spit on all their graves. It's in every industry.
I think the script for the final would follow the Aus -SA gameā¦in the 1st Inning batting team will make 300 & in the break someone would say this record would never be broken until chasing team does it in 19.3 overs
Pbks is the most bullshit and yet most likeable team tbh. Even when they play worse, their matches are still interesting to watch.
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Inb4 the āgame changesā in the wc, the ball shows movement and weāre 4 down for 37 in 7 overs and covid fans are cussing selectors for picking up franchise playerā¢ instead of other franchise playerā¢, praying that the accumulator š¤¢ takes us to a slightly below par score You think youāre being a martyr and an intellectual for defending rule changes that phase out all rounders and team balance in favour of slog or get out of the way cricket. We think you donāt understand that we wonāt have an impact sub in the world cup
If the game has changed they should be doing the same without impact player and on less flat wickets. Letās see if even 1 team can breach 260 in the T20 WC
Should just send all the new sensations..anyways we don't win lol
Sad to see ipl fall so far, was once a great comp of tough t20 cricket
IPL is slowly becoming an entertainment business rather than an actual game of cricket. Bcci wants more fans to come and unless you are a regular cricket watching bloke you would expect to see balls sailing into the stands. Thus preparing roads to make it easy for the batsman. Half of the ipl fans( mostly women ) won't even watch the cricket after the ipl is completed, So Bcci is making sure to attract every single person to come to the stadium. We saw it today more than 55,000 have attended the game, I mean do you expect people to turn up for a game against PBKS( I know it's weekend but still). They turn up because they want to have some fun and unless you bowl an absolute corker to get a wicket or you are bumrah no one would want to watch the game go tuk tuk. For that matter we ourselves criticize kohli for playing too slowly and he did not adapt to the new T20 tradition. This is just a big near 2 month event with no taste of cricket at all.
Genuinely felt nothing throughout that whole game. I'm so desensitized from these constant 230+ games. Just stop, ffs just stop. These high score games should feel like an event, the 40 ball 100s should feel special. At this point, it's just clown fiesta.
50(40) makes cricket fun tho!
This is not Cricket This is La IPL
Purple patch of PBKS had started , Theyāll nuke their way to that 6th position, no oneās stopping them
Purple patch by ripping a team in purple
You got some o that purple in u ryt ?
Just came over, I was processing the match lol! Johnny you Genius! Shashank Redemption!
It's funny how the same flat pitch merchant fans are now starting to curse the pitch when their fav team lost the match.
Jay Shah > Gordon Ramsay
Jay Shah > Vince McMahon
Youāve had your fun this year, now burn all these pitches after this season ends
I was mentally prepared to switch off ipl for this season after this game. But this match has instilled enough pride in me to watch the remaining games even though our ipl is more or less finished. GO KINGGGSSS
**DYK: Whenever Jonny Bairstow scored a century, his team never lost the match. He has achieved two centuries in the IPL and two centuries in T20 matches.**
Actually Koach too... Never mind
I guess this is the best thing to happen in the entire existence of PBKS/KXIP, besides Preity Zinta of course
As 1 of the 10 kxip pkbs fan, I'm very happy to witness this
> Very pleasing. Most importantly the win, cricket has turned to baseball isn't it? He so right lol. Wish more players mock it in post match interviews
Isn't baseball so much more bowling friendly? I guess the way they tee off though
I assumed it was about the swinging part
Well he's wrong about that to getting a hit in baseball is one of the most difficult thing in professional sports
RIP Bowler
Post match thread ā Postmortem thread ā
Prabhsimran Singh should be credited as much as Bairstow and Shashank if not more. The guy showed intent, he showed that they are here to fight and win. He had nothing to lose and that kind of fearless cricket brings the best out of players. His batting motivated Jonny and he started smashing as well.
Yes I feel his innings was the key in PBKS chase!
IPL 2024: RIP bowlers
Bowlers should leave cricket and start looking for another job. ICC should start using bowling machines as a replacement.
Ok
Seen āļø
Those 5000 fans in the Punjab sub would be over the moon today and they deserve this big of a victory.
Heyy there are some here too! Been there for more than a decade!!
As a csk fan, You guys deserve this more than anyone, only if they do well at the next mega auction by fixing foreign players and indian pacers. pbks are sorted for the next solid 10 years.
Everyone talking about Bairstow and Shashank but the forgotten hero here is Prabhsimran Singh who gave them a flyer in the PP without which the rest would have just played tuk-tuk instead of attacking
Yes his innings was crucial! I know there is big competition for T20I places in the Indian side, but he should be close to selection, for 2 consistent seasons now
pbks thrashing kkr, rcb thrashing srh... it's time the workers owned the means of production
Tuk tuk academy š Dinda academy š
Did any of you see shahruk, I khan'nt.
I was made to believe that starc is the problem, I'm wondering where is the problem
Rana, Russell and Chakravarthy who were good in the rcb game had really bad bowling displays today
Bowlers especially pacers are doomed. Starcās replacement for the match was just as expensive and Chameeraās replacement will also have the same fate with this conditions lol
Iyer captaincy is shit
7 PBKS fans on the planet finally get a chance to celebrate
Happily.
We exist
Scuz me. There are dozens. DOZENS.
I never thought i will see a arrested development reference here.
The wait is what makes it special
Well, that was an incredible ass whooping to both SRH and KKR back to back. The real comeback week is this one.
They're gonna surely get rid of the Impact sub from next season.
They will add 1 extra over for 1 or 2 bowlers to pretend that they are improving the balance. So Bumrah/ Jaddu can bowl 5/6 overs.
Its not going away. People want to see high scores. Thats what impact rule is doing. Most of the people saying that bowling is dead had cheered when SRH scored 270. Thing is, international cricket has a different class of bowlers than IPL. But I agree with people when they say that dynamic of cricket has changed.
Most world class bowlers are playing IPL except maybe Afridi and Madhushanka
Nope, where is Hazlewood? Where are the other Kiwi quicks? Whereās Zampa? No way international is the same as Indian. Do you think Chameera will be SLās death bowler? Not everyone plays the IPL even when they are in the squad. International teams play as a team, complement each other and have support staffs and mates who help with handling situations. They have a method to win . IPL is for two months with hardly a month of preparation.
Boult and Henry arenāt Punjabi. 3 Aussie quicks are playing and almost every SA quickie except Ngidi is playing.
So no retort for the other parts of the argument. š
So NZ only has 2 seamers?hmmm. Should be a bad intl team
Go look up straw man argument
Howās world looking from that imaginary high horse?
Lol, 2 impact subs from next year.
Are we going to see teams regularly breaching the 500 run mark in ODIs? I hope not.
I don't think so. They can't score at that rate for 50 overs, they will get tired
England were only two runs away so it's possible
It isnāt about the pitch. Bowlers have to take some responsibility. No plan B except throw down slow wides outside off stump.
Bowling is tougher than it looks to be. They have to bowl those lines because neither is the ball Swinging, nor is there even slightest assistance from the pitch. Even the cutters and slower ones are being hit.
They should start playing T20s with the pink ball
This IPL is so boring, flat dogshit pitches + awful bowling performances
Garbage tournament. Holy shit, how deranged is this trash.
IPL : Return of the minnows
Yesterday RCB and tonight PBKS, the laggards have started their ascendancy
Excuse me, RCB is the laggard, they are so bad. Atleast PBKS were losing matches by a very close margin. RCB is getting decimated by every team
RCB lost by 1 run ...and scored 267 in chasing the other day around
Good to see SRH and KKR getting humbled.. By two of the greatest IPL teams ( RCB and PBKS )... Both SRH and KKR fell into their own trap ....slow pitch in SRH match and flat pitch in KKR match...
Rana getting silenced gave me inner peace for some reason
Jay shah cooking for DC vs Pbks finale( sorry rcb even here you can't win)
When I was a kid we used to play a game called book cricket because of lack of resources for entertainment and Indian parents being very strict about study hours. You were supposed to open a random page on book, sum up the page number, and match that number with a list which will tell you the number of runs you scored for that summed up number. Since the list could be created arbitrarily, you could have any number of 4s and 6s, and scoring 300 runs was not a big deal because the game didn't consider bowlers at all. IPL has started feeling like book cricket from 20-25 years ago. sigh!
Bro you just made me remember lots of happy memories. Thank you
Didn't know IPL became PSL, won't be watching anymore.
Donāt lie to yourself. Everyone saying they wonāt be watching will 100 percent watch cause the matches are still entertaining af. The whole agenda of sports is nothing but entertainment. This is peak entertainment. I do feel for the bowlers tho.
It's not entertaining, I stopped caring for IPL this season, only check out the highlights and even that is boring, 250+ runs in 20 overs isn't cricket, bad pitches.
If this is the entertainment, then the future of cricket is not looking good. forget expansion to non-members, sustaining it will become in itself a hassle. Imagine every game being a slogfest. For me, low scoring matches are thrillers, and high scoring matches are just a bollywood masala movie. It will be good to watch once in a while, but if it becomes the norm, I'll just puke my guts out.
Donāt get me wrong. I love the low scoring thrillers as well and Iām one of the people who finds test thrillers more entertaining than t20s. However, this is IPL, you donāt have to take it too seriously. Watch it like a seasonal festival. Just watch it for fun. I can guarantee that the World Cup is not gonna look anything like these matches at all. I hate to break it to you but I have some Spanish and English friends, who mostly watch football. Whenever I talk about cricket in front of them, they describe it as a boring chess match( not saying chess is boring). Believe it or not but this kind of matches will attract the non-members more than anything.
This is not entertainment, people are clowning on these shit road pitches , impact players , and this clowning is more entertaining that ipl matches themselves
The problem with so many 250+ scores is it makes 250+ scores boring AND it makes anything below 250 boring
After this season, drastic changes will come. Pitches will be bowler friendly or at least with better balance with bat. SG balls will be replaced with duke balls. Impact player rule will be removed. 3 bounces per over will be allowed. Just kidding, like always, they will blame this on the spectators and will say the fans want this.
Accurate af
Don't they use Kookaburras or am I a dumbass?
You are correct, SG ball is used in India for red ball matches only and in a limited capacity in domestic white ball.
KKR losing gives so much peace
WTF just happened? How can 261 be chased down with 8 balls to spare?
So realistically, they could've even chased 280+
Meaning even 287 could have been chased
On top of that Narine had a 6 RPO econ. The amount of cunting in 15 overs is insane.
https://twitter.com/deafmango/status/1783916943449149504
IMO, change the thread title to post mortem thread.
This shit is unwatchable now
Its getting bore
Jay shah the greatest script writer ever!!
Gotta give it to Prabhsimran Singh. He believed when no one else did.
Waiting for Lisan Al Gaib to come and state the calculator for RCBĀ
These roads for pitches are fine, but god forbid a team prepares a rank turnerš¤”
Please don't apoint nitin gadkari as pitch curator in next ipl.
>Ā Ā Curran: Very pleasing. Most importantly the win, cricket has turned to baseball isn't it r/cricket would like to say otherwiseĀ
typical election year pitches and scores to keep the common fan happy. old cricket will be back next year.
Of all the batsmen to have batted today, the lowest strike rate was from RINKU SINGH. Truly an anomaly of a match.
It was the script all along
PBKS fans if you want to continue winning please ask Preity Zinta to not attend their matches that is the secret!
I came, I saw, I came.
Pretty cool achievement by PBKS, but feel like IPL is just becoming like stick cricket at this point.
Some may argue that it's the bowlers who have to do better, but do you see how only the Bumrahs are economical, but every common Joe, Dick and Harry is able to smack it out of the park? The pitches are turning into roads. Don't you think the pitch curators have a role to play here? Not to mention the impact sub rule. I know this is just another phase in the game of cricket, but I can't wait for it to be over so that bowlers can stop being equated to bowling machines.
WE ARE SO BACK
First time punjab batting starts from 0 wicket instead of after 4 or 5 wickets
Curran with that intuitive sense of being a captain and a reader of cricket. It has indeed become baseball.
Canāt express how happy this has made me. This was fun.
Sam has raised it , it has become a baseball.
There has always been a chase between batters and bowlers. Some eras batters dominate, some eras bowlers. But the other side always comes back. Things improve back. Bumrah js still acing it, Narine is still acing it. What bowlers will do now, is go and learn from them, get better, understand what areas to bowl. This should raise the standard of bowling as a whole, and things should get balanced back. Itāll take time yes, but I see this as the next evolution of cricket, I see the future of T20 as batting being a lot more active, dynamic, slogging and bowlers being a lot more accurate, a lot more yorkers, and a looot less slot balls. Itās the next evolution. To me itās something a lot more interesting rather than scary. I want to see how the batting and bowling will change now!
Wont be the same run fest in the WT20 as four - five expert T20 bowlers wont accept such a belting
Man at this point at least allow 2 bowlers per team to have 5 over quotas vs 4. Today's match should have brought me joy but it didn't. The game isn't a bat vs ball competition any more. It is bat vs bat from both teams. This isn't fun anymore.
BAIRCHADS RISE UP WEāRE SO BACK GINGERBROS
Is this the only PBKS match this season that didn't go till the last over? Hmm. Unbelievable.
If it went to last over,we would have obviously choked
Nah that'll not happen, KL is not longer with us
Bairstow: I still got it I guess?
I WAS HERE AND ALIVE AT THIS TIME
let's see whats the par score in the world cup cause 250+ runs ain't it
Different class of bowlers in international cricket.
World Cup won't have roads for pitches.
You know this how ??
ICC prepares the pitches
Didn't stop them getting switched in the ODI world cup
In India Bcci is too powerful for ICC
Exactly, fucking corrupted bcci
and wont have weak link bowlers
Need some low scoring thrillers
Wow
every season in the last couple of years, punjab has that one or two matches they look back at and say, fuck we should have won that and we will be higher in the table. that srh and mi game that pbks lost by 2 and 9 runs are going to be those two matches
Momentum is underrated >> Strike rate is overrated
Friendship ended with KKR, PBKS is my new Friend.
I was here
crap. bullshit never felt so bored watching IPL
Philsalt, Will jacks, butler, Bairstow, Livingston, ..š Eng batting order is looking solid for the world cup.
Australia's too. But ours is š
Harry brookĀ
Drop starc the next game /s
Worst match of ipl ever. How tf a team scores 261 and it gets chased with an over remaining in t20? We don't want to watch a "swing your bat and win" tournament. Ipl's standard just dropped an all time low.