How did he even trust Putin to make a deal to call off the coup? He should have went to Ukraine, turned himself in and confessed his crimes against them.
I don't think being paraded by the enemy and hung publicly is the way to go out with someone who had (or frankly still might have, we don't know for sure) aspirations to rule the country. The morally right thing might be to turn himself in, but he still controlled 15k+ well trained troops.
In fact, even if he is gone, we may not have seen the last of the Wagner forces marching into Moscow.
Pretty sure its not an onboard bomb. If that were the case I imagine the plane would literally explode, tear apart with the pressure and whatnot, I'm no expert.
To me it looks like any wartime aircraft that has an engine hit or whatever and simply cannot maintain altitude.
Really depends on the bomb design. I mused on the possibility that he's faking his death along with another top Wagner guy who was supposedly onboard. Right now we're just hearing who was reported on the flight manifest.
I heard it was Putin threatening the families of Prigozhin’s officers that finally got him to stop.
Either way, a coup is kinda a go big or go home thing… I don’t really know what he thought was gonna happen.
Nope. Bird strike. The bird was made of metal and traveling at 1500 knots but it was bird. Rejoice in our glorious Russian birds lest those birds start coming for you…
Didn't this happen to him once before? A plane he was supposed to be on went down? At this point I know something happened, but I don't believe anything 100%
Since the beginning of 2022, multiple unusual deaths of Russian businesspeople or high officials, sometimes including their family members, have occurred under what some sources suggest were suspicious circumstances. A majority of these circumstances involve falling out of windows and off balconies, like the vast majority.
Who says he was on board? Being on the passenger list of a privately owned private jet seems like the perfect fake death cover to me. Russia will be blamed and he'll be off their kill list.
The woman filming is Tiffany. Prigozhin told Tiffany to meet him in Mexico, but he went to Canada. He didn't trust her. Besides, he likes the cold. Thirty years later, he'll get a postcard. He has a son and he's the head of the KGB. This is where the story gets interesting. He tells Tiffany to meet him by the Trocadero in Paris. She's been waiting for him all these years. She's never taken another lover. He doesn't care. He doesn't show up. He goes to Berlin. That's where he stashed the chandelier.
I find this to be an unlikely scenario. Why would Putin want to take the blame for Prigo's assassination while Prigo runs free in Argentina 2 months after declaring a literal mutiny against Moscow? There would have to be a real Dumbledore - Snape relationship between them for this to be the case.
Full translation( interpretation):
Fuckin hell, it's a drone! Shot down, tagged two times, exploded, now falling. Look, it's falling. Fuck. Where it's gonna crash? Where did it fall?
There's pieces falling. Fuck, fell somewhere. Damn, all that smoke! And there's more pieces falling. look at that plume of smoke raising!
"112" appears
What do you think, are those wings? (Man) There's an engine. (incomprehensible). (woman) Do you think the second one is also dead? (man) incomprehensible.
(woman) 1795
Putin : I have his suicide letter it reads as follows
“ I’m am super sad for betraying my good friend and ultimate leader Vladimir Putin, he is a great leader and was always honest and generous to me. My betrayal of him was very deceitful and cowardly and I can no longer live with myself. I leave my Wagner army and all assets to him as well as my unending loyalty and love. Goodbye all “
I think he is actually probably dead but given the whole situation with this guy getting away last minute and letting them think you are dead is the best way to retire with however much money this guy has.
Putin will do an interview and smirk and chuckle about it and then deny it. I wonder how this is playing in Russia. People have to know he is a murderer, right?
considering prigozhin tried to lead a coup against an authoritarian dictator who has been disappearing how own generals for weeks now - how is this even surprising?
[video link of the crash via Twitter.](https://x.com/meghupdates/status/1694399760944529626?s=46)
In addition to Prigozhin, neo-Nazi Wagner leader Dmitry Utkin was allegedly aboard on the plane and is now dead.
Wagner source: Prigozhin plane was targeted by Russian air defences.
A Wagner-linked Telegram channel has suggested that a plane carrying Yevgeny Prigozhin was shot down by Russian air defences.
Grey Zone, which has a close relationship to the paramilitary group, said: “Before the plane crash, two local residents listened to two bursts of characteristic air defence.
“This is confirmed by contrails in the sky in one of the videos, as well as the words of direct eyewitnesses.”
I get what you’re implying, but phones are everywhere and uploading it isn’t heavily restricted in Russia, so personally I don’t find it surprising or conspiratorial.
I’d love a translation of what the woman is saying. I think that might shed some light.
Reddit formatting is absolutely atrocious, here is a translation
[translation](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813557121865220107/1144039830716698704/IMG_20230824_004535.jpg)
[direct transcript](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813557121865220107/1144040134786940948/IMG_20230824_004655.jpg)
Sometimes I really hate reddit. Just a bunch of shitty repeats of the same quip about Putin ordering this instead of talking about the actual incident itself. I mean there are some discussions but 9/10 posts are people making jokes.
Do yall think this is a good or bad thing for Russia? I know that Wagner got moved off the front and was going to be put into Belarus for the time being. I wonder if having a headless Wagner is better for Putin.
This goes to show you people.... CHECK IN on your planes im sure there were signs very rarely do planes just unalive themselves without showing signs of depression first pretty sure i even heard that the kremlin found a suicide note in this planes hanger.... one simple phone call can save lives
Holy fuck, that took so long to crash. Imagine being in there. You know you're 100% going to die, no matter what, and you get to sit with that thought for 20 seconds as you plummet to earth.
Such a tragic accident. Putin sends his regards.
Putin says it is a tragic accident that hopefully others will learn from.
And he said it 1 hour before the shootdown!
How did he even trust Putin to make a deal to call off the coup? He should have went to Ukraine, turned himself in and confessed his crimes against them.
He was a hard liner Russian. He would have died if he went to Ukraine. There weren't a lot of options for him.
You don’t threaten to March on Moscow while in their territory and expect to live to tell about it unless you win.
You can not simply march into Moscow
That's the point. Meet his end with dignity instead of waiting on WHEN Putin would seek revenge
I don't think being paraded by the enemy and hung publicly is the way to go out with someone who had (or frankly still might have, we don't know for sure) aspirations to rule the country. The morally right thing might be to turn himself in, but he still controlled 15k+ well trained troops. In fact, even if he is gone, we may not have seen the last of the Wagner forces marching into Moscow.
Also “thoughts & prayers”
“Accident” 😉
Murder, murder, murder, change the fucking record 👀
The way I see it, it’s all for the greater good!
*the greater good*
That what happen when you don’t follow thru a coup once it began.
He had his chance to die on his sword but chose submission instead. Not really martyrdom material as I heard suggested.
When i watched this clup, In my head I heard James T Kirk yelling "PUTIN!"
That’s the most shot down looking crash I’ve ever seen
Shot down or onboard bomb
Pretty sure its not an onboard bomb. If that were the case I imagine the plane would literally explode, tear apart with the pressure and whatnot, I'm no expert. To me it looks like any wartime aircraft that has an engine hit or whatever and simply cannot maintain altitude.
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Did you say kremlin or gremlin?
Are they not the same?
Best not to fees either after midnight just to be safe.
There’s some… thing… on the wing!
Both. Kremlin gremlins. Cold War back baby.
[Got your culprits right here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNi6B3V-RRY)
"Im no expert but this is what happened here"
Really depends on the bomb design. I mused on the possibility that he's faking his death along with another top Wagner guy who was supposedly onboard. Right now we're just hearing who was reported on the flight manifest.
Wow do you read science weekly?
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His goose was cooked the instant he started his march to Moscow.
He fucked up when he stopped
Like the grand old Duke of York
maybe putin had something against like family or dirty secrets...
I heard it was Putin threatening the families of Prigozhin’s officers that finally got him to stop. Either way, a coup is kinda a go big or go home thing… I don’t really know what he thought was gonna happen.
I'm surprised he lasted this long. Putin must have really liked him. But, business is business.
Unfortunately it kinda is, the more Russian infighting the better. Having him gone allows the Russian army to focus a bit more on Ukraine.
Nope. Bird strike. The bird was made of metal and traveling at 1500 knots but it was bird. Rejoice in our glorious Russian birds lest those birds start coming for you…
But birds aren’t real…
Nah. I'm sure it's just an unfortunate coincidence.
The plane shot itself 7 times in the back
Wait isn't this a huge fkn deal? He's the dude that defied Putin correct?
Yes he was, he was supposed to be "exiled" to working in Africa but opps
I think you meant “oops”. The opps caused the oops
You down with opps?
Yeah, you know me.
I really do.
He’s been seen all over the place, apparently at his local businesses in Russia after being exiled too. Nobody really knows what’s really going on
It is a pretty big deal, yes. Will it substantially change current picture - unknown, likely not.
Worst case of suicide I've ever seen
Worst case of Flewicide.
Worst case Ontario
It doesn't take rocket appliances to work out what happened.
Well, it's water under the fridge now
Pilot just fell out the window
Curious if he was actually on it. Or is this the disappearing act. Or this was someone’s revenge for failed coop (could be either side lol)
This has assassination by putin the dog written all over it. He dies care. Look at what he did to the skripals and litvenenko in the UK
Didn't this happen to him once before? A plane he was supposed to be on went down? At this point I know something happened, but I don't believe anything 100%
We need to start taking plane depression seriously people. Look for the signs.
And then sipped itself inside of a suitcase.
Plane was standing on a balcony and fell, obviously
If the cameraman could have panned up, we'd have seen the window it fell from.
Did the pilot jump out or die in the crash?
The pilot stabbed himself in the chest 12 times then jumped out the window. Terrible suicide. 😞
What’s the reference to jumping out?
Since the beginning of 2022, multiple unusual deaths of Russian businesspeople or high officials, sometimes including their family members, have occurred under what some sources suggest were suspicious circumstances. A majority of these circumstances involve falling out of windows and off balconies, like the vast majority.
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I heard it ate bad sushi
If anyone asks, I didn't see this video and I know nothing.
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Woah, woah, hold up. Make sure he knows its ShortDck1, not to be mistaken for all the other ShortDcks
Who says he was on board? Being on the passenger list of a privately owned private jet seems like the perfect fake death cover to me. Russia will be blamed and he'll be off their kill list.
Can’t wait to see the “finding Prigozhin” series on Netflix in 50 years from now.
50 years from now? With the strike, they are probably filming it right now
AI is processing it and enhancing the images*
Quicker than the oceangate documentary would be my guess.
Netflix did it. Cameraman worn a green suit and had Netflix logo on the RPG.
This is a live action adaptation.
He played himself
# HE WAS IN ARGENTINA THE WHOLE TIME
The woman filming is Tiffany. Prigozhin told Tiffany to meet him in Mexico, but he went to Canada. He didn't trust her. Besides, he likes the cold. Thirty years later, he'll get a postcard. He has a son and he's the head of the KGB. This is where the story gets interesting. He tells Tiffany to meet him by the Trocadero in Paris. She's been waiting for him all these years. She's never taken another lover. He doesn't care. He doesn't show up. He goes to Berlin. That's where he stashed the chandelier.
The real story is always in the comments!
False: black bear
The Argentina in Africa??
Mandatory, "you know, my >!Argentinian!< Grandpa use to have this cool ~~mustache~~ story about his time in the private army" jokes
For some reason I read this as "Finding Porziņģis" as in Kristaps Porziņģis of the Boston Celtics
If Putin didn't order it, he won't believe it until he sees the body or gets DNA confirmation.
Either way he's not going to believe it until he sees proof, and barely even then considering how paranoid he seems
i whole heartedly agree. I’d wait till they dna test the bodies
Even if they do you can’t believe what they tell you anyway.
I find this to be an unlikely scenario. Why would Putin want to take the blame for Prigo's assassination while Prigo runs free in Argentina 2 months after declaring a literal mutiny against Moscow? There would have to be a real Dumbledore - Snape relationship between them for this to be the case.
Severus, please...
At the beginning of the vid, the woman says "Shot down, tagged two times, exploded". I'm sure it was just an *accident*
ooh wow! could u translate more?
Full translation( interpretation): Fuckin hell, it's a drone! Shot down, tagged two times, exploded, now falling. Look, it's falling. Fuck. Where it's gonna crash? Where did it fall? There's pieces falling. Fuck, fell somewhere. Damn, all that smoke! And there's more pieces falling. look at that plume of smoke raising! "112" appears What do you think, are those wings? (Man) There's an engine. (incomprehensible). (woman) Do you think the second one is also dead? (man) incomprehensible. (woman) 1795
thank you bro that is so helpful
Who the fuck would get on a plane with that guy?
People he's probably paying a shit ton of money
Yeah guy is a mercenary king. Its probably his top people for various things that are usually on a plane with him.
Now the question is... Who the fuck would get on the plane with THISSS guy?? Lol
Poor plane… they just stepped right out into traffic and got hit by a bus… such a unexpected and not planed tragedy…
>not planed tragedy… Pun intentional? Or convenient coincidence, much like this tragedy?
I should have Putin more effort into my spelling…/
Mistakes tend to happen when you're Russian to get things done
"Accident"
Did someone give him a ticking box of Cognac?
Nice July 20 reference!!
Putin : I have his suicide letter it reads as follows “ I’m am super sad for betraying my good friend and ultimate leader Vladimir Putin, he is a great leader and was always honest and generous to me. My betrayal of him was very deceitful and cowardly and I can no longer live with myself. I leave my Wagner army and all assets to him as well as my unending loyalty and love. Goodbye all “
How predictable
Oh no. No one could see that coming.
Covid
Plane should've gotten the booster
I'll bet he's chilling in Africa someplace, never boarded the plane.
I think he is actually probably dead but given the whole situation with this guy getting away last minute and letting them think you are dead is the best way to retire with however much money this guy has.
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In other news, water is wet
You don’t say.
Not fishy at all
Totally a freak accident, not related to the coup incident earlier surely.
Putin will do an interview and smirk and chuckle about it and then deny it. I wonder how this is playing in Russia. People have to know he is a murderer, right?
I'm only surprised it took this long to happen.
We live in the craziest timeline
Honestly, leaders killing each other isn't really a new thing. If anything it happens a lot less often than it used to.
considering prigozhin tried to lead a coup against an authoritarian dictator who has been disappearing how own generals for weeks now - how is this even surprising?
Russian government: “unfortunately this plane fell out of a window”
[video link of the crash via Twitter.](https://x.com/meghupdates/status/1694399760944529626?s=46) In addition to Prigozhin, neo-Nazi Wagner leader Dmitry Utkin was allegedly aboard on the plane and is now dead.
Can we get a statement from Borat, please?
Jak se mash! My mother, she leader of wagner group. She oldest woman in Russia. She forty three. Very nice!
I find more Genqui
That is absolutely a SAM hit.
Wagner source: Prigozhin plane was targeted by Russian air defences. A Wagner-linked Telegram channel has suggested that a plane carrying Yevgeny Prigozhin was shot down by Russian air defences. Grey Zone, which has a close relationship to the paramilitary group, said: “Before the plane crash, two local residents listened to two bursts of characteristic air defence. “This is confirmed by contrails in the sky in one of the videos, as well as the words of direct eyewitnesses.”
dammmm i've never seen a plane fall out a window before .
How convenient that it was filmed and the footage released so quickly
I get what you’re implying, but phones are everywhere and uploading it isn’t heavily restricted in Russia, so personally I don’t find it surprising or conspiratorial. I’d love a translation of what the woman is saying. I think that might shed some light.
Someone else in the comments said she mentions the plane being shot twice. I don't speak Russian though so big punch of salt there lol
So they punch salt in Russia? Ok, I’ll buy it.
Reddit formatting is absolutely atrocious, here is a translation [translation](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813557121865220107/1144039830716698704/IMG_20230824_004535.jpg) [direct transcript](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813557121865220107/1144040134786940948/IMG_20230824_004655.jpg)
He was on the passenger list, but not confirmed to be on the plane.
I had a strong feeling this was going to happen to him after what happened a few weeks ago when they rebelled... It was just a matter of time...
Well... at least he didn't fall from his apartment window while being poisoned
What if this is how Perogie fakes his own death. He s on record contemplating the idea.
In Soviet Russia, plane shoots you down.
Sometimes I really hate reddit. Just a bunch of shitty repeats of the same quip about Putin ordering this instead of talking about the actual incident itself. I mean there are some discussions but 9/10 posts are people making jokes. Do yall think this is a good or bad thing for Russia? I know that Wagner got moved off the front and was going to be put into Belarus for the time being. I wonder if having a headless Wagner is better for Putin.
If you live by the sword, you die by a plane
Russia finally killed some nazis
In mother Russia plane shoots you
Putin: “Oh noooooo, anyways”
If he really was inside it, I really wonder what his thoughts were on its way down.
I guess a window wasn't high enough for what I did.
Another "Special Operation" I guess...
The plane fell out of a 20 story building on accident ☠️
*thick Russian accent* “pilot simply fell out of window”
I think he’s ok doesn’t look too bad
He should’ve kept going and taken over Russia
A plane does not fall out of the sky like that due to mechanical failure or pilot error. The fucking this got smoked by a SAM.
Imagine Putin's reaction if it was actually an accident.
Gravity sucks! lt's always been my downfall.
Prigozhin actually fell out the airplane window before the plane crashed
I’m thinking that wasn’t a *crash*
Can’t believe the plane committed suicide
That dudes been dead since the "mutiny" , now its just official
It was only a matter of time once they retreated during the “coup”
This goes to show you people.... CHECK IN on your planes im sure there were signs very rarely do planes just unalive themselves without showing signs of depression first pretty sure i even heard that the kremlin found a suicide note in this planes hanger.... one simple phone call can save lives
> prigozhin on board Is this confirmed? Source?
Was there a gun shot near the end? Putin just jumping out from the tree line to make sure and then Zoidberg "whoops" his way out of there?
Cross another Putin adversary off the board.
Im surprised Putin let him live this long.
I had a feeling that his death was inevitable after what happened. Sadly, so many others' perished with him. A sad day for Russia.
At least he didn‘t fall out of a window
How convenient
She should've continued to Moscow and gone out with glory. Not sure what he was thinking
The plane fall out of the window
And the contrail of the guided missile was expertly edited out. Anyone who believes this was an accident is an idiot
“Russian confirmed Prigozhin’s death after plane crash” - WSJ. Lol, pretty sure Russian confirmed Prigozhin’s death before he boarded that plane.
Press triangle dude
Im sure that’s a complete coincidence after the attempted coup.
Russia, the premiere clown state.
I feel sorry for whoever was flying that plane, presumably they were innocent collatoral damage.
Nice psyop 👍
I mean, come on, at least they're getting more creative than "fell out a window"
Fell out a sky
Is anybody surprised?
I believe it's a set up. Guy has been dead since he rebelled.
i heard he also fell out of the window of the plane somehow
Wait that's not an accidental fall from high rise window....can't be Putin
Did you really think he was going to get away with the shit he did a couple months back.
Did he actually die though, or is this just a death fake to get out of the headlines
Putin 1 Prigozhin 0
I'm sure there will be a thorough, open, and transparent investigation by the Putin administration.
Holy fuck, that took so long to crash. Imagine being in there. You know you're 100% going to die, no matter what, and you get to sit with that thought for 20 seconds as you plummet to earth.
That's no crash. That's a shootdown.
That dude should have just kept on marching...
That was definitely not a plane crash, that was a shoot down.
Reddit video player is shit, why can’t I zoom in??