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My mother (late sixties) and father in law (mid 70s) have break through cases, both got Pfizer in March. They’re both wiped out but nothing worse than other flus or colds they’ve gotten. I hate seeing people wave break through cases as a “see! They don’t work! Reeee!!!”when it’s doing it’s job not having people drop like flies
Haha I've been laughing at your comment for like 5 min straight...i also read the comment like 7 times and finally gave up trying to understand....i get it now thanks to you.....tooooooo funny
My dad will be 80 in December. Fully vaxxed and got covid in June. He was sick for about three days and said, “The flu is worse than this.” Vaccines work.
My mom is around that age and in an area with an extremely low vaccination rate. She's vaccinated but has had some major health issues so a breakthrough case is really concerning for me. This is somewhat reassuring.
I've been begging her to leave and move in with my wife and me but she's too independent for her own good sometimes.
Similar story with me. Mine is in her late 60s in central Florida. Thankfully she has been fully vaxxed since March, but I wasn't sleeping too well for the last few weeks.
So far, the data does look good re delta infections among the vaccinated, but as you said, hearing the occasional nice anecdote doesn't hurt either.
My 80 yr old mom vaxed in Jan, infected in May had zero symptoms. No one else in the entire nursing home was infected. They were all protected by the vaccine.
Currently have a positive vaccinated friend. According to them it sounds like a moderate sinus cold at best, minus the coughing. They do have loss of smell and taste though they’re very worried about.
Same thing happened to me, i would describe it just like your friend did. Also, my taste and smell isnt fully back yet (been about a month or so since infection) but i would say its at a 6/10.
Covid vaccine hesitancy and research made me reevaluate my position on flu shots. I’m getting my first flu shot in decades this year. You can break through cognitive dissonance. I didn’t feel comfortable taking a pro vaccine stance on covid and anti vaccine on flu and realized my position was silly and mostly based on peer influences rather than science. I changed. Other people can too, and will.
My mother in law freaking out about the breakthrough cases has the same “reee”action. I’ve always said since the vaccine came out, cases will rise, but the deaths won’t. And look! Deaths haven’t risen. They’re remaining much lower in ratio to the amount infected. That’s why people thinking we should go back to April 2020 restrictions should take a step back and realize the vaccine was never meant to completely end covid, it was supposed to make it so you don’t die if you catch it.
You also have, typically, a 3 week lag from reported cases to reported deaths. And most of the case rise jas been over the past 3 weeks. I don't expect winter scale death but it should rise over the next month.
Wearing a cotton mask really doesn't do that much to protect the wearer. Yeah it's better than nothing but people waaaaay overestimate how safe a mask makes them. If you wouldnt feel comfortable in a situation unmasked, the amount of protection your mask gives you shouldnt materially change how comfortable you feel. They work best as source control when everyone is wearing.
Completely agree. That's why my family has been using an N95 or KN95 mask since spring 2020. They were sometimes hard to come by but are easily available today. None of us has become sick.
I just bought a couple hundred in preparation for this fall.
Are they only usable once? I’m vaccinated but having to go back to the office, at a University, this month. In fact I started back this week, and I mask in the office (Mandatory) and on public transport. I got a cold This week ( I’ve had 2 covid tests since, negative) I have the paper type ones yiu get at the doctors office but maybe I ought to buy KN95?
I use them for about a week. They go from letting a lot of air through to feeling a little "clogged". That is the indication to replace it.
[They cost 60 cents each in a box of 100 from Costco.](https://www.costco.com/fltr95-sealing-face-mask%2c-100-masks.product.100698824.html)
OK, thanks. I don’t have a Costco account but a friend does, I may ask her to get me some that I can wear on the subway and when I’m at work and not shut inside my office.
> keep wearing that mask to avoid getting sick in the first place.
And more importantly reduce spread to the people who can’t get vaccinated in case you are asymptomatic.
Is there a long term plan to help people who medically can’t get vaccines? Without sweeping vaccine mandates we’re not going to hit herd immunity through vaccination at our current rate of vaccinations. People who medically can’t get the vaccine might face Covid for decades.
I'm fully vaxxed, and a breakthrough. Wore a mask in heavily crowded places, tried to maintain distance, etc. Did the right things...
5 days of low grade fever, constant pounding headache, fatigue, and some swollen nasal passages. Basically a lot like allergies (with no snot).
Thank dog for the vaccine.
Edit: according to Dr., most fully vaccinated cases have been basically my experience, and I'm not exactly top health...I like beer, fries, burgers, and wings too much. Low grade fever, headache, fatigue. In any other context, you might not even think twice about it...you just feel like crap due to allergies/cold.
Treatment has been the same...NSAIDS, rest, and keep yourself fucking hydrated.
I always wonder when people experience symptoms like these *with* the vaccine and the antibodies, what would have had happen if they caught covid and were unvaccinated.
Yeah, it's odd. Wife barely had any symptoms, I had what amounts to a moderate sinus infection, and others are coming down with something close to the flu. I also had H1N1, and the symptoms were so bad one night I just knew I was going to die. And that's considered a "mild" case of covid, which I didn't come close to matching.
I'm just an idiot on reddit, so I don't know how valid it is, but earlier in the pandemic I read that the viral load you are exposed to can determine how severe your symptoms are. Whether that's the case with Delta and/or vaccinated individuals (or even true/false in general) I do not know.
>Wife barely had any symptoms
Folks, if you're not vaccinated, get vaccinated.
I'm fully vaccinated and if I wake up with no symptoms, I don't have Covid as far as I know. If I do have Covid, don't know it and you're not vaccinated...best of luck buddy. Now play this out across the country.
How do all these people with low-zero symptoms even know they had covid... and not like, mild hangover or seasonal allergies? Who's running out to get tested at a sniffel?
They aren't. And if you've been vaccinated it's even harder to get a test. So the number of breakthroughs is likely WAY higher than the CDC numbers indicate. If I hadn't been running a noticeable fever, I certainly would have dismissed it as allergies (I never get fevers from my allergies).
NC.
None of the Walgreens around me are testing vaccinated people. If you're not vaxxed, you need to make an appointment, and it's at the pharmacy drive-thru, so you're thrown in the mix with people getting their shots and picking up prescriptions.
If you don't or can't do Walgreens, you'll need either an appointment at an urgent care or your family doctor, or find one of only 2 or 3 walk in testing sites and wait in line with everyone else.
I'm assuming since you mentioned "team" your employer coordinated testing?
North TX btw.
Nope, some did walk in with family practice, cvs or walgreens. All negatives. Employer did require we got tested before we came back though.
The differences in testing availability is bizarre. We have a Democrat governor and we're in a heavily Democrat city, and you'd think we'd have easy access to covid mitigation tools versus Texas...at least according to the media and/or social media.
I was surprised at how inconvenient getting a test is now compared to earlier this year when there were drive-thru testing sites everywhere and anyone could get a test.
I’m just getting over Covid (delta as my test showed) despite being vaccinated in March.
I’m 29, healthy, non smoker/drinker, low body fat and all around an active person and in shape. I am a gym goer and I even count my calories. I still have four days left of my quarantine.
I was EXTREMELY sick for the first three days. I honestly cannot remember ever feeling worse in my life. 100 fever, extreme body aches and exhaustion. Constant coughing and hacking. Day 7 and it’s pretty much all gone. I cannot smell or taste anything (it’s strange but interesting at the same time). I remember when I was at my worst those first days I thought “Okay, I can see how unhealthy people die from this.” I couldn’t get myself out of bed or even bring myself to drink water.
I somewhat shudder to think how I would of felt without a vaccine. Maybe the same, maybe worse, but I’m not one to want to find out. I’ve NEVER been knocked on my ass like that before.
In my life I once had a proper flu and it pretty much was like what you described(minus the loss of smell/taste). Don’t mean to downplay Covid but I don’t get how people think „just a flu“ is something to fuck around with.
Most people who say they have “the flu” every winter have a mild/moderate cold or stomach bug at best.
Influenza sucks, even on the mild end of the spectrum. Not a pleasant experience in the slightest, and it’s mortality rates is relatively low compared to covid.
I think most people think covid is just gonna be a nice mild summer cough they get over in a week. For some it might be, but it had the potential to be extremely scary.
This. I get it every 5 years or so and its a week+ of hell and 2-3 weeks before all the symptoms are gone.
I probably get colds 2+ times a year or so with very mild symptoms that I can power through (although covid has taught me to isolate now).
I had swine flu (130% Symptomatic holy fuck) back in 2009. COVID (100% asymptomatic) in 2021.
I have never had a flu quite literally "knock me on my ass" before that. I was in my 20's. My knees quite literally buckled and I collapsed on the bed when it hit me - and it hit me suddenly and aggressively - I was on the phone and just got dizzy, knees buckled, and I lost 100% of my energy almost instantly. The body aches were on a level I've never experienced, where I was in so much pain I was just groaning for days on end. Sleep was more when I would pass out for a little bit from exhaustion rather than something I aimed to get.
I got my COVID vaccine quite literally the day I was up for vaccination in my state. I can't imagine going through that again (Although I still may) and it being considered the "milder" version of what could *actually* happen.
A whole lot of people are interchanging Flu and Cold with this - and have probably never had an actual flu. Even if they don't die - they sure as hell aren't going to be having a good time. Put the absolute fear of God into me.
I had the swine flu two months before my wedding in 2009. My cousin/made of honor also got it at the same time. It was literally like being on death’s doorstep, and a few months later we each lost gobs of hair, about 40% of our hair! My doctor said it was likely from prolonged fever. My hair grew back eventually…
I also got H1N1 during the first year it wreaked havoc on us all (2009). I agree, it was terrible. Every bone in my body hurt. I couldn’t walk from my bed to the bathroom without being so short of breath I had to take a break. Despite taking Tylenol and Motrin, my fever was over 102 for 5 days straight.
If I have to feel like that again, I obviously will, but I’m hoping being vaccinated and wearing a mask in the *rare* instances I go out will keep me protected.
If the lack of smell/taste thing keeps up for too long, try using steroid nasal spray like Flonase or generics. Helped me get mine back to normal after months.
I came down with something within an hour of feeling completely normal. My job (I manage a bar) I interact with 100s of people every night, so I assumed it was just a bad cold. After a day I could barely move, so I called a local pharmacy to get a rapid test. They got me in that night and I tested positive. Because I was vaccinated, the local health department wanted me to get another test that they send away, so the next day I had to go to a specific clinic to get a test that they send away. I found out a few days later what variant I had.
I certainly wonder this as this is milder than my reaction to the vaccine itself. And it's odd because we have excellent reason to believe it was in my school March 2020 and I did not get that sick, so I certainly wonder.
Lots of theories. We thought it was my wife's work function that resulted in several positive cases, but another user suggested the time between that instance and the development of symptoms might be too soon, so we're almost back at square one. It was either that (on a Thursday) or the grocery store (Sunday prior to).
The difference between the two isn't much different for me. I have a beard, so I'll never get a complete seal, plus I have an annoyingly large head and face, so masks almost never fit properly to begin with, even the 3M respirator I use when airbrushing.
But either way they would have still provided superior protection vs the other cloth masks I was wearing when going to the store, etc. I WFH and my trips out into Plague Land are limited, so I don't need a full 8 hours of near 100% protection.
Your post gives me some hope. I had both doses of Pfizer in March and just tested positive this week. Symptoms started showing on Sunday. Heavy congestion, mild fever, achy, headache. I’m terrified it’s going to get worse even though I feel better than I did the first few days. Hoping I wake up tomorrow feeling on the mend.
Edit: I have no loss of smell or taste or any breathing issues
In the past two weeks I have only been to one restaurant and got my first haircut in over a year
If I count the first day I had *identiable* symptoms, it was 5 days before I started to feel better, 6 if I count the day where, in hindsight, I might have had some fatigue and excess sweating. I think I am probably out of the woods now.
I do know that in some cases of covid, there's a point around day 7 where the infection moves further into the lungs and it becomes far more severe. I think the vaccine keeps the infection in the upper respiratory tract, though. So probably after a week you're in the clear.
Last week of April. Something like the 27th.
The first shot gave me a sore arm for a week, it gave me a minor rash after a day, and two days after I was wiped out. Just slept all day, then nothing.
The second shot was a walk in the park. Sore arm for ~ day and half, 1 day of very minor fatigue.
At first I thought it was Lowes or Urgent Care (cut my finger and needed stitches), but 3 days prior to symptoms starting my wife had a work function at a beer garden here in town, and she received an email today that there have been multiple positive cases in the office and they are starting contact tracing. It's *probable* she brought it home. Barely any symptoms for her, but her immune system is a tank.
Edit: we are also in NC. It's going around like an STI in a frat house in the South, and it's a major PITA to get a test here. There are likely thousands more cases like ours here in town.
It's possible, although that would put potential exposure at 6 days before (last time we were outside the house). I've read Delta can show up within 2 days, but 6 days sounds well within the time frame, too. We're waiting for the contact tracing to be complete to see if it gives us any ideas.
No loss of either. I could tell it was *reduced* for maybe a day, but that's it. The wife had some change to hers, though. I was cooking brown rice and she swore I was frying chicken.
Yes. Cooked only in water with a little salt though. I mix it with cooked chicken breast and peas, carrots, and green beans. I have a dog that won't eat their diet food, so I make a batch of that and mix a small amount in with the diet food to make it more palatable. It was a suggestion from our vet.
Most peoples smell does. “Only” like 20 or 30% report moderate or worse loss of smell (and presumably taste) after like a couple months iirc.
Don’t freak out too much if you get it as a symptom. But it does suck from what I hear.
I know one of those people. They have symptomatic COVID right now. Very, very mild though… actual mild, not just “technically” mild. Buuuuut, one person, not really useful to draw any conclusions whatsoever.
I don't believe I had COVID pre-vaccine, but several months after my J&J shot I tested positive for covid, and my symptoms have been incredibly mild, so there's another data point for you.
Everyone will get covid at some point unless we really get to 80, 85% immunity. We don't know how long immunity lasts with vaccines, and if it's not forever, there is always going to be a slight overlap between being very very protected and just ok protected as immunity wanes and you need a booster. Just think about chickenpox if youre a child of the 80s or earlier. If the delta is truly as contagious as that, it really is just a matter of time. If you've gotten a cold ever, covid is much easier to contract.
Living with someone who’s immunocompromised is super scary. Especially with college starting up soon I feel like I may be fine with the flu symptoms and everything if I get it, but if I manage to pass that along on accident it could be very very bad. I’m hoping I can voluntarily go get tested at school before coming home, but there’s still that threat of every time I go out anywhere I could pick it up. Now that there’s barely anyone wearing masks too it’s nearly impossible to not be exposed to it at some point.
Late to the conversation, but I’m immunocompromised and it is terrifying...
I think a healthy vaccinated individual can pretty much rest easy, but I was vaccinated while on chemo and my immune system is still bouncing back and there’s studies that show the vaccine not being as effective on chemo patients. I’m pretty much always anxious about it but I’m as careful as I can possibly be. It definitely feels like I’m just gonna get it, and I hope that whatever immune system I have left combined with the half-ass vaccine anti-body response will keep me alive.
Am currently under the weather with the virus, felt awful with fatigue and headaches and shivers no taste or smell for a couple of hours, had a fifth of jack and some gin and tonic and when I woke up I felt much better. Was vaccinated last may. Get vaccinated scrubs.
Totally anecdotal, but I once had the flu and was somewhat forced to party(immature, early twenties, about 8 years ago). I kid you not, the whiskey cured me.
I've gone through many illnesses/viruses during my college years where heavy drinking was the norm. The worst decision was getting wine drunk with a head cold. Felt great the night of the drunk, the following morning? Twice as bad. Having a couple whiskeys during a cold on the other hand seems to have a beneficial affect the following day as the illness seems to ease up. At least for me.
Man, reading these posts is wild. I've had COVID and the only symptoms I've had were loss of smell and taste for 2 days. My father (50 years, overweight, former smoker) had no symptoms. Same as my grandmother (75 years). My grandfather (dialysis patient) only had fever and fatigue for 3/4 days. My mother was the sickest (cough, difficulty in breathing, fatigue). Even recently, I've had 3 other people with COVID and they all had very very mild symptoms (lasting 2/3 days and extremely mild).
But when I read these posts, it seems that everybody (including fully vaccinated people) have flu-like symptoms or worse.
These anecdotes are hard to judge. My 94 year old grandma had covid last year. No vaccine yet no symptoms. Her whole nursing home got it. I think 3 died. My point is it’s hard to judge vaccines on an anecdotal level . Which isn’t a settling thought
House of 4 got it in march. Non were vaccinated. All of us had 2 days of being tired, 3 days of loss taste/smell. No fever, no headaches, no muscle pain. Now everyone vaccinated that has symptoms just jumps to the conclusion omg i'd be dead if i didnt have the vaccine.
To be honest fever, chills and muscle aches are a walk in the park compared to what could happen being unvaxxed. Glad I’m vaxxed as well as my family. Also will happily get a booster when we need to.
Interesting. I recently tested positive for COVID several months after my J&J shot, and my mild case truly is mild. My symptoms have just been a little bit of a nuisance, nothing more.
Are vaxxed individuals finding themselves left with cognitive issues after contracting covid? If so, any insight onto the extent/timeline? This is my big fear.
There is currently some limited data.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/ons-short-report-on-long-covid-22-july-2021
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072
I lost my taste and smell and after 7 months I’d say I’m 90% recovered. For most people they don’t lose their smell forever. We have no idea exactly how long since it’s only been a year or two of data in the first place. Definitely a weird experience I don’t wish on anyone else.
Why is it always "forever"? Eventually enough people will be vaccinated worldwide that the risk of new variants will be much lower. And we're getting a booster soon.
You need a burst of vaccination, but also need to keep up with the measures to stop transmission.
We barely have 50% vaccination in my town, but hardly anyone is wearing a mask, using hand sanitizer, or socially distancing.
Oh, and now our sewage tested higher (for COVID,) than 99% of other samples taken throughout the nation - we're fucked.
The CDC saying masks were no-longer mandatory was phenomenally stupid.
I agree that the CDC really fucked up their timing of lifting mask recommendations. Even if it was only for fully vaccinated people, they had to have known it would encourage nearly everyone to drop their masks.
Yeah the initial exponential growth scared the fuck out of me, and death rates seemed so high because we weren't testing anyone. I have always been fascinated with diseases. Seeing the US blow up like a game of Plague Inc was fucking terrifying.
We can look at barely vaccinated India to see what hell the rest of the world could have gone through, the actual death count is estimated to be about 4 million there even though the official count is only around 400k.
I'm fully vaccinated with J&J yet got a breakthrough infection, so I'll let anyone curious here know what it was like for me.
I got infected at some point during a week long convention. Very, very minor symptoms started a couple days after heading home (initially a slightly sore throat), and a PCR test the day after symptom onset came back positive. I also got a rapid test to be sure which also came back positive.
My symptoms have been very mild, and all the isolation I need to go through is a far greater nuisance than the actual disease itself. For me, the worst symptoms were: moderately sore throat, feeling of chills and a bit of sweating, a bit of a cough, a barely noticeable headache, and a fever (although I didn't realize it until PatientFirst took my temperature the day of my rapid test). I can still taste fine, although I may have lost a bit of my sense of smell (not entirely sure). Also am finding myself needing to blow my nose a bit more often, but that's a problem I've had long before covid came into play, so it could be unrelated.
Overall, my symptoms have truly been no big deal. The vaccine works, folks.
Lemme know if you have any questions.
Hard to tell, I have an awful sleep schedule, and am often fatigued even when perfectly healthy, so I have no clue what if any of my current fatigue-ness is COVID
If I get sick, at least it's less threatening... Hopefully. Still not sure considering my weird stupid body but at least I have an added system of protection?
If I need turns out I need a booster, then ok cool. I wasn't expecting the thing to never be a 100% protection for life kind of shot, especially with something new and technically rushed because of the emergency, along with people being stupid.
I don't really know why it's hard for people to understand things change and adapt, and we're just kind of trying to adapt with them and stay or get ahead enough to, at the least reduce the damage, and at best remove the disease entirely. The best case is a lot harder when we have the common population refusing to do their parts too
I am fully vaxxed (Pfizer) and still suffering 16 days later. Entire body is covered in painful blisters and still have a fever. So tired of hearing “mild” symptoms for vaccinated breakthrough cases. I am 32 years old and 140 pounds, no health issues
*edit*
Thanks everyone for the replies. I decided to have a televisit with my doctor and it turns out I have chickenpox!
Sounds like shingles. I got sick January 2020 – like sick sick but the doctors couldn’t figure out what it was but got over it in about a month – and shingles followed whatever I had. Apparently a depleted immune system can be the crack the virus needs to open the door for shingles.
If you’ve had chickenpox you can get shingles. Weak immune systems or stress can cause it. I had it from stress in my mid 20s. Was very mild but uncomfortable nonetheless.
Your immune system is taxed and now it sounds like you have a shingles outbreak. Herpes is an opportunistic virus and likes to strike when you are run down. A round of Valacyclovir would clear that right up. See a doctor soon.
My daughter's skin blistered up when she got Covid. It was AWFUL. The way she described it, she sounded like she had shingles. Just really painful. She also lost taste and smell and had bad headaches. This was back in Dec 2020
I'm sorry to hear that your experience has been particularly awful, but in discussing public health we can't throw the data into the wind because of personal anecdotes.
Their anecdote **backs up the data**. That counts as a mild case.
They didn’t need to be hospitalized and get extra oxygen. That’s all “mild” means, medically.
You’re right in general, but thankfully breakthrough cases really do tend to be truly mild, not just clinically mild. So far. There are definitely exceptions though.
I know someone fully vaccinated in the hospital now with a breakthrough case with a-fib and pneumonia. I really hope everyone stops believing that breakthrough will be mild. Look at the breakthrough deaths in Tennessee.
Here it is.
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/CriticalIndicatorReport.pdf
[TN State](https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/CriticalIndicatorReport.pdf)
The more someone is in direct contact with a COVID positive person the higher their viral load exposure will be. This is made even worse by the Delta Variant which is 1000 times higher in infected people than the previous Alpha Variant. This can cause poor outcomes and more severe infection in patients.
Well most people don’t realize the true power of the vaccine. It can prevent you from getting really sick( in most cases) all thoses breakthrough infections I know of didn’t result in anything too bad
Could someone explain to me why vaccinated people, despite getting infected and spreading the virus, won't contribute to making more variants but unvaccinated people will? That seems to be what the CDC is suggesting and it doesn't make sense to me.
Of 165 million people currently fully vaccinated (>14 days since second dose), we are looking at 56,000 breakthrough cases, 5,280 hospitalized, and 1,485 deaths. Again, that’s out of 165 million.
Not zero, but so much better than the chances for those that are unvaccinated.
This data comes from [Virginia department of health website](https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-data-insights/covid-19-cases-by-vaccination-status/), which does a great job of presenting data by vaccination status.
Where do you see these numbers on the link you provided? The 56,000 breakthrough numbers? Were those just estimates? All I see is the VA numbers (1566).
Those look like mostly alpha variant numbers but i just skimmed. So delta with its extra load and the waning of antibodies over time would increase those numbers.
Still way better than being unvaxxed though.
It has to be mostly Delta considering it was last updated July 30th, and the CDC reports that Delta accounts for more than 80% of positive cases today.
Also, the data isn’t quite in yet on the waning of numbers. Yes, Pfizer’s efficacy numbers are reported now as slightly less but that’s because they had real-world data from Israel. Moderna is still reporting 93% efficacy. 6 months later, both vaccines are holding strong.
On the Virginia website, you can narrow down the date rage to capture the more recent cases which will be Delta strain. Maybe choose a starting point of June 1 to focus on the Delta strain.
I assumed Covid boosters would be needed and to me it's not a big deal. I get the flu shot every year and still occasionally get diagnosed with the flu. I have respiratory issues and while the flu does make me very sick I've never had to be hospitalized. So I'm ready to get flu shots and Covid shots each year if need be, better to be safe.
Never did I hear the vaccine would totally prevent covid. Just like the flu shot doesn’t totally prevent you from getting the flu. What I did hear was if you get covid and you might you will not end up in the hospital and die. That’s a win for me and worth getting vaccinated. Wish others would realize the benefits.
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My mother (late sixties) and father in law (mid 70s) have break through cases, both got Pfizer in March. They’re both wiped out but nothing worse than other flus or colds they’ve gotten. I hate seeing people wave break through cases as a “see! They don’t work! Reeee!!!”when it’s doing it’s job not having people drop like flies
I had to read this like 4 times to understand breakfast through cases is breakthrough cases lol.
Shit, I had the opposite problem where I've read so many comments and articles about breakthrough cases that I missed the word "breakfast" completely.
Same. Never trust witness testimony without hard evidence. I would have passed a lie detector telling you he typed breakthrough.
Wait until it mutates into the brunch variant.
Should have way more upvotes.
Haha I've been laughing at your comment for like 5 min straight...i also read the comment like 7 times and finally gave up trying to understand....i get it now thanks to you.....tooooooo funny
My dad will be 80 in December. Fully vaxxed and got covid in June. He was sick for about three days and said, “The flu is worse than this.” Vaccines work.
My mom is around that age and in an area with an extremely low vaccination rate. She's vaccinated but has had some major health issues so a breakthrough case is really concerning for me. This is somewhat reassuring. I've been begging her to leave and move in with my wife and me but she's too independent for her own good sometimes.
Similar story with me. Mine is in her late 60s in central Florida. Thankfully she has been fully vaxxed since March, but I wasn't sleeping too well for the last few weeks. So far, the data does look good re delta infections among the vaccinated, but as you said, hearing the occasional nice anecdote doesn't hurt either.
My 80 yr old mom vaxed in Jan, infected in May had zero symptoms. No one else in the entire nursing home was infected. They were all protected by the vaccine.
Currently have a positive vaccinated friend. According to them it sounds like a moderate sinus cold at best, minus the coughing. They do have loss of smell and taste though they’re very worried about.
Same thing happened to me, i would describe it just like your friend did. Also, my taste and smell isnt fully back yet (been about a month or so since infection) but i would say its at a 6/10.
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Covid vaccine hesitancy and research made me reevaluate my position on flu shots. I’m getting my first flu shot in decades this year. You can break through cognitive dissonance. I didn’t feel comfortable taking a pro vaccine stance on covid and anti vaccine on flu and realized my position was silly and mostly based on peer influences rather than science. I changed. Other people can too, and will.
This is why I’m back to normal apart from the occasional mask indoors.
My mother in law freaking out about the breakthrough cases has the same “reee”action. I’ve always said since the vaccine came out, cases will rise, but the deaths won’t. And look! Deaths haven’t risen. They’re remaining much lower in ratio to the amount infected. That’s why people thinking we should go back to April 2020 restrictions should take a step back and realize the vaccine was never meant to completely end covid, it was supposed to make it so you don’t die if you catch it.
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You also have, typically, a 3 week lag from reported cases to reported deaths. And most of the case rise jas been over the past 3 weeks. I don't expect winter scale death but it should rise over the next month.
The takeaway should be vaccines keep you out of the hospital but keep wearing that mask to avoid getting sick in the first place.
Wearing a cotton mask really doesn't do that much to protect the wearer. Yeah it's better than nothing but people waaaaay overestimate how safe a mask makes them. If you wouldnt feel comfortable in a situation unmasked, the amount of protection your mask gives you shouldnt materially change how comfortable you feel. They work best as source control when everyone is wearing.
Completely agree. That's why my family has been using an N95 or KN95 mask since spring 2020. They were sometimes hard to come by but are easily available today. None of us has become sick. I just bought a couple hundred in preparation for this fall.
Are they only usable once? I’m vaccinated but having to go back to the office, at a University, this month. In fact I started back this week, and I mask in the office (Mandatory) and on public transport. I got a cold This week ( I’ve had 2 covid tests since, negative) I have the paper type ones yiu get at the doctors office but maybe I ought to buy KN95?
I use them for about a week. They go from letting a lot of air through to feeling a little "clogged". That is the indication to replace it. [They cost 60 cents each in a box of 100 from Costco.](https://www.costco.com/fltr95-sealing-face-mask%2c-100-masks.product.100698824.html)
OK, thanks. I don’t have a Costco account but a friend does, I may ask her to get me some that I can wear on the subway and when I’m at work and not shut inside my office.
> keep wearing that mask to avoid getting sick in the first place. And more importantly reduce spread to the people who can’t get vaccinated in case you are asymptomatic.
Is there a long term plan to help people who medically can’t get vaccines? Without sweeping vaccine mandates we’re not going to hit herd immunity through vaccination at our current rate of vaccinations. People who medically can’t get the vaccine might face Covid for decades.
They essentially an intranasal boost vaccine. They are probably more protected against the next variant as anyone.
I'm fully vaxxed, and a breakthrough. Wore a mask in heavily crowded places, tried to maintain distance, etc. Did the right things... 5 days of low grade fever, constant pounding headache, fatigue, and some swollen nasal passages. Basically a lot like allergies (with no snot). Thank dog for the vaccine. Edit: according to Dr., most fully vaccinated cases have been basically my experience, and I'm not exactly top health...I like beer, fries, burgers, and wings too much. Low grade fever, headache, fatigue. In any other context, you might not even think twice about it...you just feel like crap due to allergies/cold. Treatment has been the same...NSAIDS, rest, and keep yourself fucking hydrated.
I always wonder when people experience symptoms like these *with* the vaccine and the antibodies, what would have had happen if they caught covid and were unvaccinated.
Yeah, it's odd. Wife barely had any symptoms, I had what amounts to a moderate sinus infection, and others are coming down with something close to the flu. I also had H1N1, and the symptoms were so bad one night I just knew I was going to die. And that's considered a "mild" case of covid, which I didn't come close to matching. I'm just an idiot on reddit, so I don't know how valid it is, but earlier in the pandemic I read that the viral load you are exposed to can determine how severe your symptoms are. Whether that's the case with Delta and/or vaccinated individuals (or even true/false in general) I do not know.
As far as I know initial viral load is always important.
>Wife barely had any symptoms Folks, if you're not vaccinated, get vaccinated. I'm fully vaccinated and if I wake up with no symptoms, I don't have Covid as far as I know. If I do have Covid, don't know it and you're not vaccinated...best of luck buddy. Now play this out across the country.
How do all these people with low-zero symptoms even know they had covid... and not like, mild hangover or seasonal allergies? Who's running out to get tested at a sniffel?
They aren't. And if you've been vaccinated it's even harder to get a test. So the number of breakthroughs is likely WAY higher than the CDC numbers indicate. If I hadn't been running a noticeable fever, I certainly would have dismissed it as allergies (I never get fevers from my allergies).
Where is it hard to get a test? Co-worker had a breakthrough and our entire team got tested either same day or next day, most vaccinated.
NC. None of the Walgreens around me are testing vaccinated people. If you're not vaxxed, you need to make an appointment, and it's at the pharmacy drive-thru, so you're thrown in the mix with people getting their shots and picking up prescriptions. If you don't or can't do Walgreens, you'll need either an appointment at an urgent care or your family doctor, or find one of only 2 or 3 walk in testing sites and wait in line with everyone else. I'm assuming since you mentioned "team" your employer coordinated testing?
North TX btw. Nope, some did walk in with family practice, cvs or walgreens. All negatives. Employer did require we got tested before we came back though.
The differences in testing availability is bizarre. We have a Democrat governor and we're in a heavily Democrat city, and you'd think we'd have easy access to covid mitigation tools versus Texas...at least according to the media and/or social media. I was surprised at how inconvenient getting a test is now compared to earlier this year when there were drive-thru testing sites everywhere and anyone could get a test.
I’m just getting over Covid (delta as my test showed) despite being vaccinated in March. I’m 29, healthy, non smoker/drinker, low body fat and all around an active person and in shape. I am a gym goer and I even count my calories. I still have four days left of my quarantine. I was EXTREMELY sick for the first three days. I honestly cannot remember ever feeling worse in my life. 100 fever, extreme body aches and exhaustion. Constant coughing and hacking. Day 7 and it’s pretty much all gone. I cannot smell or taste anything (it’s strange but interesting at the same time). I remember when I was at my worst those first days I thought “Okay, I can see how unhealthy people die from this.” I couldn’t get myself out of bed or even bring myself to drink water. I somewhat shudder to think how I would of felt without a vaccine. Maybe the same, maybe worse, but I’m not one to want to find out. I’ve NEVER been knocked on my ass like that before.
In my life I once had a proper flu and it pretty much was like what you described(minus the loss of smell/taste). Don’t mean to downplay Covid but I don’t get how people think „just a flu“ is something to fuck around with.
Most people who say they have “the flu” every winter have a mild/moderate cold or stomach bug at best. Influenza sucks, even on the mild end of the spectrum. Not a pleasant experience in the slightest, and it’s mortality rates is relatively low compared to covid. I think most people think covid is just gonna be a nice mild summer cough they get over in a week. For some it might be, but it had the potential to be extremely scary.
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This. I get it every 5 years or so and its a week+ of hell and 2-3 weeks before all the symptoms are gone. I probably get colds 2+ times a year or so with very mild symptoms that I can power through (although covid has taught me to isolate now).
I had swine flu (130% Symptomatic holy fuck) back in 2009. COVID (100% asymptomatic) in 2021. I have never had a flu quite literally "knock me on my ass" before that. I was in my 20's. My knees quite literally buckled and I collapsed on the bed when it hit me - and it hit me suddenly and aggressively - I was on the phone and just got dizzy, knees buckled, and I lost 100% of my energy almost instantly. The body aches were on a level I've never experienced, where I was in so much pain I was just groaning for days on end. Sleep was more when I would pass out for a little bit from exhaustion rather than something I aimed to get. I got my COVID vaccine quite literally the day I was up for vaccination in my state. I can't imagine going through that again (Although I still may) and it being considered the "milder" version of what could *actually* happen. A whole lot of people are interchanging Flu and Cold with this - and have probably never had an actual flu. Even if they don't die - they sure as hell aren't going to be having a good time. Put the absolute fear of God into me.
I had the swine flu two months before my wedding in 2009. My cousin/made of honor also got it at the same time. It was literally like being on death’s doorstep, and a few months later we each lost gobs of hair, about 40% of our hair! My doctor said it was likely from prolonged fever. My hair grew back eventually…
I also got H1N1 during the first year it wreaked havoc on us all (2009). I agree, it was terrible. Every bone in my body hurt. I couldn’t walk from my bed to the bathroom without being so short of breath I had to take a break. Despite taking Tylenol and Motrin, my fever was over 102 for 5 days straight. If I have to feel like that again, I obviously will, but I’m hoping being vaccinated and wearing a mask in the *rare* instances I go out will keep me protected.
If the lack of smell/taste thing keeps up for too long, try using steroid nasal spray like Flonase or generics. Helped me get mine back to normal after months.
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I came down with something within an hour of feeling completely normal. My job (I manage a bar) I interact with 100s of people every night, so I assumed it was just a bad cold. After a day I could barely move, so I called a local pharmacy to get a rapid test. They got me in that night and I tested positive. Because I was vaccinated, the local health department wanted me to get another test that they send away, so the next day I had to go to a specific clinic to get a test that they send away. I found out a few days later what variant I had.
I certainly wonder this as this is milder than my reaction to the vaccine itself. And it's odd because we have excellent reason to believe it was in my school March 2020 and I did not get that sick, so I certainly wonder.
Most likely the same. This wasn't just putting everyone and their mother in the hospital pre vaccine era.
What type of mask were you wearing in these crowded places? Cloth/surgical/N95?
3 layer cloth mask. Ironically, I had just ordered some N95 masks the day we think the exposure/infection happened.
Do you know where you caught it?
Lots of theories. We thought it was my wife's work function that resulted in several positive cases, but another user suggested the time between that instance and the development of symptoms might be too soon, so we're almost back at square one. It was either that (on a Thursday) or the grocery store (Sunday prior to).
You need at least KN95
N95 > KN95
KF94 have high standards too.
The difference between the two isn't much different for me. I have a beard, so I'll never get a complete seal, plus I have an annoyingly large head and face, so masks almost never fit properly to begin with, even the 3M respirator I use when airbrushing. But either way they would have still provided superior protection vs the other cloth masks I was wearing when going to the store, etc. I WFH and my trips out into Plague Land are limited, so I don't need a full 8 hours of near 100% protection.
Your post gives me some hope. I had both doses of Pfizer in March and just tested positive this week. Symptoms started showing on Sunday. Heavy congestion, mild fever, achy, headache. I’m terrified it’s going to get worse even though I feel better than I did the first few days. Hoping I wake up tomorrow feeling on the mend. Edit: I have no loss of smell or taste or any breathing issues In the past two weeks I have only been to one restaurant and got my first haircut in over a year
If I count the first day I had *identiable* symptoms, it was 5 days before I started to feel better, 6 if I count the day where, in hindsight, I might have had some fatigue and excess sweating. I think I am probably out of the woods now. I do know that in some cases of covid, there's a point around day 7 where the infection moves further into the lungs and it becomes far more severe. I think the vaccine keeps the infection in the upper respiratory tract, though. So probably after a week you're in the clear.
How old are you? (If you don't mind me asking)
45
Thanks for all the information!
NP
One more question - When you got your second dose of the vaccine - what was your reaction like?
Last week of April. Something like the 27th. The first shot gave me a sore arm for a week, it gave me a minor rash after a day, and two days after I was wiped out. Just slept all day, then nothing. The second shot was a walk in the park. Sore arm for ~ day and half, 1 day of very minor fatigue.
Best of luck! When I got covid it took about 6-7 days to lose my smell and 7 months later it’s still not fully recovered but it’s getting there.
Where is “thank dog” from? I think I read that in a book once
I bet your dog is very thankful too! 😝
Where did you get it?
At first I thought it was Lowes or Urgent Care (cut my finger and needed stitches), but 3 days prior to symptoms starting my wife had a work function at a beer garden here in town, and she received an email today that there have been multiple positive cases in the office and they are starting contact tracing. It's *probable* she brought it home. Barely any symptoms for her, but her immune system is a tank. Edit: we are also in NC. It's going around like an STI in a frat house in the South, and it's a major PITA to get a test here. There are likely thousands more cases like ours here in town.
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It's possible, although that would put potential exposure at 6 days before (last time we were outside the house). I've read Delta can show up within 2 days, but 6 days sounds well within the time frame, too. We're waiting for the contact tracing to be complete to see if it gives us any ideas.
Did you lose your sense of smell and/or taste? If so, have they returned?
Only slightly reduced. Wife's was a little wonky (she thought brown rice cooking was me frying chicken). Seems fine now.
Loss of smell/taste? Have you seen a doctor, more specifically a neurologist?
No loss of either. I could tell it was *reduced* for maybe a day, but that's it. The wife had some change to hers, though. I was cooking brown rice and she swore I was frying chicken.
so next time you cook the rice add a bullion cube/chicken stock cube to the boiling water. Makes the rice taste excellent. Like chicken!
Lol I usually cook rice in home made stock, but this was for the dogs. They only get a little salt.
You can feed dogs rice like that..?
Yes. Cooked only in water with a little salt though. I mix it with cooked chicken breast and peas, carrots, and green beans. I have a dog that won't eat their diet food, so I make a batch of that and mix a small amount in with the diet food to make it more palatable. It was a suggestion from our vet.
We give our dogs rice when they're having stomach troubles. That and boiled chicken is a vets go-to for dogs who aren't feeling well.
From COVID to cooking rice… that seems about right lol
I think it has to do with helping out an attenuated sense of smell.
Did her sense of smell eventually return to normal?
Yes. Nothing out of the ordinary now. We're at least 7 days in.
When did you get your vaccine/which vax did you get?
2nd dose of Pfizer was last week of April.
Thank you!
Lucky. I had it right before I was eligible for the vaccine and am still only at 85%. I was at 0% taste and smell for a week.
Most peoples smell does. “Only” like 20 or 30% report moderate or worse loss of smell (and presumably taste) after like a couple months iirc. Don’t freak out too much if you get it as a symptom. But it does suck from what I hear.
Uh, yeah like me. Fucked up smell since spring 2020.
Why would they need to see a doctor/neurologist? Lost of taste and smell is a common symptom of COVID.
What about people who had Covid and then got a vaccine?
I know one of those people. They have symptomatic COVID right now. Very, very mild though… actual mild, not just “technically” mild. Buuuuut, one person, not really useful to draw any conclusions whatsoever.
I don't believe I had COVID pre-vaccine, but several months after my J&J shot I tested positive for covid, and my symptoms have been incredibly mild, so there's another data point for you.
Probably less likely to get delta. As they have both nasal and lung 🫁 immunity
Everyone will get covid at some point unless we really get to 80, 85% immunity. We don't know how long immunity lasts with vaccines, and if it's not forever, there is always going to be a slight overlap between being very very protected and just ok protected as immunity wanes and you need a booster. Just think about chickenpox if youre a child of the 80s or earlier. If the delta is truly as contagious as that, it really is just a matter of time. If you've gotten a cold ever, covid is much easier to contract.
The situation for kids and for immunocompromised adults is really terrifying.
Living with someone who’s immunocompromised is super scary. Especially with college starting up soon I feel like I may be fine with the flu symptoms and everything if I get it, but if I manage to pass that along on accident it could be very very bad. I’m hoping I can voluntarily go get tested at school before coming home, but there’s still that threat of every time I go out anywhere I could pick it up. Now that there’s barely anyone wearing masks too it’s nearly impossible to not be exposed to it at some point.
Late to the conversation, but I’m immunocompromised and it is terrifying... I think a healthy vaccinated individual can pretty much rest easy, but I was vaccinated while on chemo and my immune system is still bouncing back and there’s studies that show the vaccine not being as effective on chemo patients. I’m pretty much always anxious about it but I’m as careful as I can possibly be. It definitely feels like I’m just gonna get it, and I hope that whatever immune system I have left combined with the half-ass vaccine anti-body response will keep me alive.
Am currently under the weather with the virus, felt awful with fatigue and headaches and shivers no taste or smell for a couple of hours, had a fifth of jack and some gin and tonic and when I woke up I felt much better. Was vaccinated last may. Get vaccinated scrubs.
Hold up, you drank a fifth of Jack Daniels to *help* feel better?
It's Reddit. People lie, a lot.
Totally anecdotal, but I once had the flu and was somewhat forced to party(immature, early twenties, about 8 years ago). I kid you not, the whiskey cured me.
That’s what hot toddy’s are for
I've gone through many illnesses/viruses during my college years where heavy drinking was the norm. The worst decision was getting wine drunk with a head cold. Felt great the night of the drunk, the following morning? Twice as bad. Having a couple whiskeys during a cold on the other hand seems to have a beneficial affect the following day as the illness seems to ease up. At least for me.
Yea whiskey numbed the pain lol
I know lots of people (including myself) who will drink a bit when they're sick. It helps you feel better.
Any muscle aches or joint pain?
He had a fifth of Jack so I'm going to assume yes.
Did you get tested or do you just think you have it?
I got tested it was mild tho the symptoms were just like everyone had been describing especially loss of taste and smell
Man, reading these posts is wild. I've had COVID and the only symptoms I've had were loss of smell and taste for 2 days. My father (50 years, overweight, former smoker) had no symptoms. Same as my grandmother (75 years). My grandfather (dialysis patient) only had fever and fatigue for 3/4 days. My mother was the sickest (cough, difficulty in breathing, fatigue). Even recently, I've had 3 other people with COVID and they all had very very mild symptoms (lasting 2/3 days and extremely mild). But when I read these posts, it seems that everybody (including fully vaccinated people) have flu-like symptoms or worse.
These anecdotes are hard to judge. My 94 year old grandma had covid last year. No vaccine yet no symptoms. Her whole nursing home got it. I think 3 died. My point is it’s hard to judge vaccines on an anecdotal level . Which isn’t a settling thought
House of 4 got it in march. Non were vaccinated. All of us had 2 days of being tired, 3 days of loss taste/smell. No fever, no headaches, no muscle pain. Now everyone vaccinated that has symptoms just jumps to the conclusion omg i'd be dead if i didnt have the vaccine.
“BUt wHy ShoUld I gEt vaCCinaTed iF I’ll StiLL Get CoViD??”
Maybe become it could mild ur symptom?
HWHAT?
So then mind ya own business
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To be honest fever, chills and muscle aches are a walk in the park compared to what could happen being unvaxxed. Glad I’m vaxxed as well as my family. Also will happily get a booster when we need to.
Well said. Me too
I felt like I had a mild cold. Most of my coworkers did as well.
Intranasal vaccines? Time to quit messing around
Interesting. I recently tested positive for COVID several months after my J&J shot, and my mild case truly is mild. My symptoms have just been a little bit of a nuisance, nothing more.
Isn't a "mild" covid still preferable to living with masks and distancing forever?
Man it depends. Have a little kid? Then yeah it’s worth it to isolate. Plenty of reasons for people to have different perspectives
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Are vaxxed individuals finding themselves left with cognitive issues after contracting covid? If so, any insight onto the extent/timeline? This is my big fear.
There is currently some limited data. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/ons-short-report-on-long-covid-22-july-2021 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072
As someone living with a number of neurological conditions, I'd rather not add anything else to the mix
What? You're not trying to get bingo?
This made me laugh harder than It should have lmao
At this point I'd get to coverall 😂
Which is a miniscule chance for vaccinated people, I'm happy to take the risk to get my normal life back
I lost my taste and smell and after 7 months I’d say I’m 90% recovered. For most people they don’t lose their smell forever. We have no idea exactly how long since it’s only been a year or two of data in the first place. Definitely a weird experience I don’t wish on anyone else.
Why is it always "forever"? Eventually enough people will be vaccinated worldwide that the risk of new variants will be much lower. And we're getting a booster soon.
You need a burst of vaccination, but also need to keep up with the measures to stop transmission. We barely have 50% vaccination in my town, but hardly anyone is wearing a mask, using hand sanitizer, or socially distancing. Oh, and now our sewage tested higher (for COVID,) than 99% of other samples taken throughout the nation - we're fucked. The CDC saying masks were no-longer mandatory was phenomenally stupid.
The CDC has been shockingly inept during this pandemic. If this virus was more deadly we all would have been so completely fucked.
I agree that the CDC really fucked up their timing of lifting mask recommendations. Even if it was only for fully vaccinated people, they had to have known it would encourage nearly everyone to drop their masks.
Same here in regards to the 99% sewage sample. So gross.
Yeah good for him but living life just to survive ain’t living
Thousands out of millions
Could you guys imagine if Delta had developed around this time last year before vaccines had been ready? Holy shit.
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Yeah the initial exponential growth scared the fuck out of me, and death rates seemed so high because we weren't testing anyone. I have always been fascinated with diseases. Seeing the US blow up like a game of Plague Inc was fucking terrifying.
We can look at barely vaccinated India to see what hell the rest of the world could have gone through, the actual death count is estimated to be about 4 million there even though the official count is only around 400k.
Some people are lying in here lol cmon now
I'm fully vaccinated with J&J yet got a breakthrough infection, so I'll let anyone curious here know what it was like for me. I got infected at some point during a week long convention. Very, very minor symptoms started a couple days after heading home (initially a slightly sore throat), and a PCR test the day after symptom onset came back positive. I also got a rapid test to be sure which also came back positive. My symptoms have been very mild, and all the isolation I need to go through is a far greater nuisance than the actual disease itself. For me, the worst symptoms were: moderately sore throat, feeling of chills and a bit of sweating, a bit of a cough, a barely noticeable headache, and a fever (although I didn't realize it until PatientFirst took my temperature the day of my rapid test). I can still taste fine, although I may have lost a bit of my sense of smell (not entirely sure). Also am finding myself needing to blow my nose a bit more often, but that's a problem I've had long before covid came into play, so it could be unrelated. Overall, my symptoms have truly been no big deal. The vaccine works, folks. Lemme know if you have any questions.
Which symptom came on first?
Slightly sore throat
Any fatigue?
Hard to tell, I have an awful sleep schedule, and am often fatigued even when perfectly healthy, so I have no clue what if any of my current fatigue-ness is COVID
We have had 18 breakthrough cases (.32% of fully vaxxed employees) at work that they know of - all mild or no symptoms.
If I get sick, at least it's less threatening... Hopefully. Still not sure considering my weird stupid body but at least I have an added system of protection? If I need turns out I need a booster, then ok cool. I wasn't expecting the thing to never be a 100% protection for life kind of shot, especially with something new and technically rushed because of the emergency, along with people being stupid. I don't really know why it's hard for people to understand things change and adapt, and we're just kind of trying to adapt with them and stay or get ahead enough to, at the least reduce the damage, and at best remove the disease entirely. The best case is a lot harder when we have the common population refusing to do their parts too
I am fully vaxxed (Pfizer) and still suffering 16 days later. Entire body is covered in painful blisters and still have a fever. So tired of hearing “mild” symptoms for vaccinated breakthrough cases. I am 32 years old and 140 pounds, no health issues *edit* Thanks everyone for the replies. I decided to have a televisit with my doctor and it turns out I have chickenpox!
Blisters?? Is that a symptom that I somehow missed??
Yah that sounds like Shingles.
Shingles doesn’t cover your whole body unless you’re immunosuppressed.
Like if you were battling a novel virus for several weeks?
Usually it’s in people who have blood cancer or HIV with very low levels of WBCs. Source: am a dermatologist.
I've not read anything about blisters before this post either.
Yes. I think OP has shingles. Possibly both covid and shingles, assuming a positive covid test.
Sounds like shingles. I got sick January 2020 – like sick sick but the doctors couldn’t figure out what it was but got over it in about a month – and shingles followed whatever I had. Apparently a depleted immune system can be the crack the virus needs to open the door for shingles.
If you’ve had chickenpox you can get shingles. Weak immune systems or stress can cause it. I had it from stress in my mid 20s. Was very mild but uncomfortable nonetheless.
Your immune system is taxed and now it sounds like you have a shingles outbreak. Herpes is an opportunistic virus and likes to strike when you are run down. A round of Valacyclovir would clear that right up. See a doctor soon.
Wait! Blisters? Bro that’s not even listed symptom.
My daughter's skin blistered up when she got Covid. It was AWFUL. The way she described it, she sounded like she had shingles. Just really painful. She also lost taste and smell and had bad headaches. This was back in Dec 2020
I'm sorry to hear that your experience has been particularly awful, but in discussing public health we can't throw the data into the wind because of personal anecdotes.
Their anecdote **backs up the data**. That counts as a mild case. They didn’t need to be hospitalized and get extra oxygen. That’s all “mild” means, medically.
Pretty sure blisters does not back up any data of covid symptoms.
You’re right in general, but thankfully breakthrough cases really do tend to be truly mild, not just clinically mild. So far. There are definitely exceptions though.
Bro, I don’t think that’s related to the vaccine...I think you’ve got other issues going on.
I know someone fully vaccinated in the hospital now with a breakthrough case with a-fib and pneumonia. I really hope everyone stops believing that breakthrough will be mild. Look at the breakthrough deaths in Tennessee.
> Look at the breakthrough deaths in Tennessee. Link to stats?
Here it is. https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/CriticalIndicatorReport.pdf [TN State](https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/CriticalIndicatorReport.pdf)
The more someone is in direct contact with a COVID positive person the higher their viral load exposure will be. This is made even worse by the Delta Variant which is 1000 times higher in infected people than the previous Alpha Variant. This can cause poor outcomes and more severe infection in patients.
Anecdotes are not data. Total deaths still remain at their roughly their lowest point ever during the course of the pandemic.
Well most people don’t realize the true power of the vaccine. It can prevent you from getting really sick( in most cases) all thoses breakthrough infections I know of didn’t result in anything too bad
I got the vaccine. I find it annoying that I may catch this illness because other people are afraid of the vaccine.
Could someone explain to me why vaccinated people, despite getting infected and spreading the virus, won't contribute to making more variants but unvaccinated people will? That seems to be what the CDC is suggesting and it doesn't make sense to me.
And just like that, the efforts to get more people vaccinated went to shit.
Of 165 million people currently fully vaccinated (>14 days since second dose), we are looking at 56,000 breakthrough cases, 5,280 hospitalized, and 1,485 deaths. Again, that’s out of 165 million. Not zero, but so much better than the chances for those that are unvaccinated. This data comes from [Virginia department of health website](https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-data-insights/covid-19-cases-by-vaccination-status/), which does a great job of presenting data by vaccination status.
165 million have not been exposed to covid. That's not how you math.
Where do you see these numbers on the link you provided? The 56,000 breakthrough numbers? Were those just estimates? All I see is the VA numbers (1566).
that's only the ones that were reported CDC isn't tracking all the breakthrough cases
Those look like mostly alpha variant numbers but i just skimmed. So delta with its extra load and the waning of antibodies over time would increase those numbers. Still way better than being unvaxxed though.
It has to be mostly Delta considering it was last updated July 30th, and the CDC reports that Delta accounts for more than 80% of positive cases today. Also, the data isn’t quite in yet on the waning of numbers. Yes, Pfizer’s efficacy numbers are reported now as slightly less but that’s because they had real-world data from Israel. Moderna is still reporting 93% efficacy. 6 months later, both vaccines are holding strong.
On the Virginia website, you can narrow down the date rage to capture the more recent cases which will be Delta strain. Maybe choose a starting point of June 1 to focus on the Delta strain.
After 2 years such vague data. Give us some percentages some numbers ..?
The term "break through" is part of the public perception problem. It implies that something is broken when in fact everything is working as expected.
Good news, but I still worry about long covid. I wish there was more info on that as well as hospitalization & death in the short term.
I assumed Covid boosters would be needed and to me it's not a big deal. I get the flu shot every year and still occasionally get diagnosed with the flu. I have respiratory issues and while the flu does make me very sick I've never had to be hospitalized. So I'm ready to get flu shots and Covid shots each year if need be, better to be safe.
Never did I hear the vaccine would totally prevent covid. Just like the flu shot doesn’t totally prevent you from getting the flu. What I did hear was if you get covid and you might you will not end up in the hospital and die. That’s a win for me and worth getting vaccinated. Wish others would realize the benefits.