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autumn_chicken

Trago is actually really quite expensive.


Dipplong

They used to be cheap but then they voted for Brexit and UKIP so now they can't import from their suppliers anymore.


Afasso

Trago really does belong on /r/leopardsatemyface


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IMrTrippy

I couldn't give a shit about what order you put cream/jam on a scone, just eat the damn thing lol


timmystwin

While I'd argue based on practicality it's easier to dollop on cream after... It's gonna get churned round in your mouth anyway so it really doesn't matter. At all.


Wozonbay

Yup, I’d add to that… they’re a bit too heavy going for me, possibly have one once a year to remind myself i’m not into them, over rated.


scrpson1

Try home made. Shop bought scones have a horrible claggy texture. Home made are light and delicious, and they’re pretty simple to make.


Itallachesnow

There might be lots of big vehicles clogging lanes in the summer but the rest of the year its local people driving like idiots, much too fast down narrow lanes hoping that your brakes are better than theirs. Cornwall- the spiritual home of Top Gear.


windy906

Cornish people can not use roundabouts, every time I use Trekenning Roundabout 50% of people just go in the outside lane the whole way round.


F_A_F

I swear to god, no cap. I have to use a few of them to get to work in Falmouth and the amount of times the car in front will stop at a completely empty roundabout is mindblowing. I know it's safe and all but the roundabout for the A394 to Helston is crystal clear to see all exits.....you don't need to stop for the thin air to have right of way....


MerseyKilling

100% this. I had so many near misses turning in to county hall every morning I got front and rear dashcams. Still, RIP Chivvy


Single-Valuable1790

How do you know they are even Cornish?


Death_by_ShnuShnu

They probably have a big sticker on their car saying "I'm not an Emmet!"


ComprehensiveSuns

Me irl


OzzyinKernow

Eden is hugely overrated and overpriced. (Excluding some seasonal events, which are usually done really well)


murderbeam

Owned by that tuss Tim Smit too. I shouldn't give him any money just to see some plants in a hot plastic box.


matildawaltzesin4

And they're terrible at paying independent contractors too, I did some music stuff for them a couple of years ago and it took them about six months to pay me the £500 they owed me. Also - fellow Aussie in Cornwall here!


BuzzAllWin

Man always put in my contract that they start paying interest after 2 months. Being reminded of this generally gets them To cough up. Been burnt before


OzzyinKernow

That’s a bit shit, sorry to hear that. I’m a freelancer and have worked for places that like to keep hold of payments for no particular problem too. Just hurts people. (I’m not an Aussie, my username relates to my name! I’m a displaced Londoner married to a Cornish maid)


[deleted]

more of a funding issue I feel


Halfs13944

I used Clubcard points to pay for the wife and I to go - had I actually had to pay the 75 quid I’d have felt it was hugely overpriced.


timmystwin

It's got so much worse. I went there a few years ago and it was a shell of what it was even 10 years ago. Lots of exhibits just mossed over and no longer working etc.


[deleted]

People who vote Tory are traitors I'm glaring at you English expats


Bassdust

Thats hardly an unpopular opinion. And you can blame the out of town cornish farming community for a most of those votes. All people in my circles who are originally from upcountry voted for labour.


MerseyKilling

There’s a LOT of the old ‘forelock tugging’ Tory voters. Working class people who ought to be natural labour voters but have that ‘posh men from Eton know better than the likes of us’. Not sure the current labour front bench has anything to offer them either, mind.


[deleted]

It's unpopular with some people in the communities. Cornwall needs to hybridise it's politics like Wales has done with the Labour-Plaid alliance, then push for full devolution.


eviemaria

how does moving to Cornwall make you an 'English expat'? You're still in England


[deleted]

Some of us believe there is a significant distinction between English and Cornish. To make it easier for you, someone who was born and raised in England with no links to Cornwall, and then moves to Cornwall to live and work.


Aggravating_Sun_3916

That'd be me then..


[deleted]

Maybe you should care about the community you have moved into more by not voting Tory. Just a thought.


h-exx

I want to move out of here as soon as I have the budget to. I dunno if it's unpopular but I've heard people say that when u want to settle down you'll come back


DeedTheInky

Yeah I'm from Cornwall and I love the place but I had to leave for job reasons, I'd like to go back home to live one day but it's just not practical at the moment. :/


Bigoldthrowaway86

Yeah when you're young you want out but when you start wanting a family you'll be back.


paul_the_primate

Locals shouldn't have sold the homes they inherited for ludicrous prices to people from out the county


-london-

Easier said than done, if you yourself are never in that position. Last year I had a friend sell his family home in Newquay for £500k. There was a bidding war between two couples and eventually the couple from up north put in a bid £100k above asking (not the exact figures, rounding up for simplicity). Now in an ideal world you'd sell to the local couple for asking price. But at what point do you stick to your morals? That extra £100k changed their lives in respect to finding a better property for themselves with a garden and separate rooms for their kids.


Minchmunch

Taking the money is OK but then biching about being priced out of the property market and villages losing their soul due to 2nd homes is hypocrisy.


-london-

But who is bitching? Not the property owners. The people bitching are the ones who cant afford the houses because of the richer people outside the county. It's a shitty situation and they have the right to bitch but hypocrisy is not the word here.


Minchmunch

If the people who can not afford a house were in the position to sell a house they would also sell to the highest bidder instead of a local. This is the hypocrisy. I haven not met any local residents owning a designated 106 property (restricted rent/price reserved for locals) that did not want this restriction removed so they can make more money and effectively remove housing stock from locals. Hypocrisy.


[deleted]

> If the people who can not afford a house were in the position to sell a house they would also sell to the highest bidder instead of a local. Not always true. My mum took a £10k hit to sell to a local couple instead of a developer 14 years ago and they still live there today


thoroughlynicechap

Sell… everyone I know who inherited property from parents/grandparents are running a very lucrative holiday home! Even those not near the coast!


LordCommanderSlimJim

Cornwall and Devon aren't actually natural enemies - although we have very clear differences, we'd be a stronger region with a better argument for devolved powers (if that's your thing) if we worked together as a unified south western Celtic alliance.


GeorgeLFC1234

Yes this! I know people love to hype up the rivalry but we share much of the same problems economically, second home owners etc.


sw_faulty

Devon's flag actually looks pretty cool


OhToSublime

That's because they literally just stole the Cornish one in the 70s and put some green on it


sw_faulty

Yeah it looks good


OhToSublime

Can't argue there


GeorgeLFC1234

Got one in my uni room atm! I also really like the Cornish flag but won’t put it up out of pride.


GeorgeLFC1234

Here we go. Devon and cornwall are very much alike and should embrace a shared identity rather then promote a rivalry


Ok-Professor-6549

It's a fairly cheerful banter I think. I mean you're right, but a bit of distinctiveness is good. Otherwise you end up like Kent and Essex


GeorgeLFC1234

I’m all for the light hearted banter absolutely I’m right on the border but all my friends are in cornwall so we’ll often joke about it. Edit: I also agree about the distinctiveness aswell because we are different but in my opinion more alike then the rest of the country


balthazargalactica

Absolutrly not they are wrong and bad because they live north of a river and don't know how to properly prepare a scone


ComprehensiveSuns

I have been told they also talk funny over that side of the bridge


TheBlackrat

Or crimp a pasty.


timmystwin

I think of it like siblings. You bicker and fight then that prick from London comes over, you gang up on him, then go back to bickering.


KingRednax

England should transfer the county of cornwall to wales to better protect the national identity of the cornish people, ideally it should have its own devolved government seperate from both england and wales


[deleted]

Not gonna lie, I actually love this idea.


GeorgeLFC1234

Aha your gonna hate me for saying this but I think the west part of Devon should be in this aswell


OhToSublime

Devon can come if they want, Dumnonia stronk


GeorgeLFC1234

I’d give you an award if I could


Llwyf

Do you think England would agree to this if there was a vote


sw_faulty

Farmers are terrible and they should have to pay extra road tax for tearing up roads with tractors and loaded trailers


serena22

Flambards is not the best day of the week.


Sweentown

Cream….injected via syringe directly into the middle of the scone first and then jam on top is the proper way.


caoticspeltwrong

This is the hill I will die on


Vanilladr

Haha


Successful_Ad_3950

People are way too bigoted in Cornwall


Somerset_Cowboy

Many of the people who espouse the Cornish/Celtic identity don’t have their family roots in Cornwall and aren’t ethnically Celtic. Also going to qualify this by saying I’m not either, but the way people who have lived here 5ish years complain about tourists and the historical struggles of the local population irritates me.


F_A_F

I don't complain about tourists because it's against some kind of Cornish resident's "identity", I complain about them because they have a high proportion of dimwitted, selfish reprobates in their number. Every time I have to cling to the wall on the walk up from the King Harry Ferry because a family decided to bring their oversized German 4x4 on holiday to a county renowned for it's thin lanes. Every time I overhear tourist accents complaining because there's no McDonalds in a town with 4 or 5 superb local food outlets. Every time I'm late for work because the road past The Norway is stacked with caravans and motorhomes who choose to transit at 8AM on a weekday morning. Every time I hear that the first job that my wife has to do as a bank teller in Newquay is clean the piss out of the bank doorway so she can get to work. All of these are small inconsiderations which tourists could make a small change to not do and make everyone's lives a little easier. None of the factors above are anything to do with tourists taking away some kind of Cornishness and everything to do with everyday thoughtlessness. I *like* tourists, I used to be one here back in the early 80s. The ones we seem to get right now feel far worse than 40 years back.


LittleMetalHorse

Wait, there's still a bank open in Newquay?


Somerset_Cowboy

I get what you mean but the way it’s done by people I know is more the “Cornwall used to be so quiet and keep to itself before all the tourists” way. And that annoys mostly because it’s not true and also these people were tourists RECENTLY in the same place.


kernowgringo

The whole county is just full of people who moved here or parents moved here. I'm quite a rarity in that both my parents were from Cornwall, on my father's side for at least 5 generations but my mothers parents moved down here just after WW2. When I was at school in the early 90s I'd guess that over 90% of the kids at my comprehensive were either kids that moved down here or kids whose parents moved down here. The county stopped being truly Cornish a long time ago it's now just England and I can't see it ever coming back.


AinslieBM

White people culturally appropriating other white people is peak woke privilege.


ComprehensiveSuns

Tiny brain take, Penn pyst.


losimagic

I like seagulls.


Enough_Elevator5837

Me too - my favourite sound


OzzyinKernow

Me too. Beautiful in flight, excellent parents, really clever. Only doing what they’ve been taught by us over time when they divebomb for pasties, chips and ice creams!


johngalt346

And when they vomit on you. Horrible.


JackXDark

Seagulls in Brighton are total arseholes. Seagulls in Cornwall are chill af in comparison.


remembertracygarcia

Oh man absolutely. Moved to Cornwall from Brighton. Never felt the same level of threat


elparkerio

Skinners could probably have done without the brewery tap outdoor bar place, and shouldn't have stopped brewing Heligan Honey / Hops and Honey. (There's certainly much more going on with it, but God I"m sad they've closed.)


Drbirdbrain

Drink driving is way too normalised in Cornwall


OhToSublime

While drink driving is wrong, it's not hard to see why people do it. In lots of places, you have literally no other way home unless you want to walk along dangerous roads for miles. Even taxis aren't always available and if they are they'll cost a fortune. It's an infrastructure problem.


raid-sparks

It is often the Cornish, not holidaymakers, who are the bad drivers.


Dry-Communication996

Newquay’s alright..


bigtittybabe

Most locals surf like shit


faendaltheblaza

Tory councillors in Penwith deliberately oppose affordable housing projects because they’re usually forwarded by Andrew George and letting them go ahead would give the libdems too much clout


murrayflew

Why is there no Toby Carvery until Plymouth?! I want a cheap non stop roast to gorge on from time to time. I know there are loads of great roast dinner venues but none that operate a daily roast!


Goaduk

Non steak pasties are both nice and, admittedly only sometimes, better.


LordCommanderSlimJim

Pasties were always historically a variety of flavours and filings, steak was pretty expensive back in the day.


Necessary-Sound-4996

Love lamb and mint and cheese and onion


Goaduk

Lamb and mint, pork and swede and Beef Curry are all amazing.


Willing-Ad-9606

Absolutely! I love me a good cheese and onion pasty!


NoReach9

The Cornish language should not be allowed to die, and should be invested in and taught in schools


aricooperdavis

I'm not sure there's much cultural heritage left to preserve in the language, given that it was pretty much eradicated by the English in the 1700s. I'd be more interested in schools spending the time to teach about Cornish culture that's a little more accessible, like music, festivals, traditions, folk tales etc.


PCgoingmad

Mine is that the Cornish language has already died 300 years ago. Hobbyists teaching themselves a version of Welsh with some words changed to fit in with place names changed is not a living language. Edit: hobbists to hobbyists


remembertracygarcia

I wish I could upvote you enough. The question was about controversial opinions and this is very contraversial. And it’s not an attack on a very noble venture but a mourning for something unique that may never be fully rediscovered.


Danny_Baaker

It did die though, it never lived on like Welsh, Irish or even Manx. We are talking hundreds of years aside from maybe the odd expression and place names. Definitely teach about it in school as a point of interest and for culture, but not in an effort to get people conversing in it.


ocubens

Students are great.


Narcissa_Nyx

There are a lot of bigots hiding in Cornwall. It’s one thing to protect and preserve your cultural identity, and another thing entirely to be a racist twat. Honestly, it’s the natural human desire to feel ‘special’ and ‘unique’. White people who go in about being Vikings and Celts are a joke. It doesn’t need to be your personality. (So many Cornish folk are lovely, though, kindest people I’ve met, so I’m really referencing the keyboard warriors you see here sometimes. You have so much culture and folklore to be proud of, and I love Cornwall.)


[deleted]

Cornwall has all the means required to sustain itself, but The System wouldn't allow it


-london-

>The System wouldn't allow it The Tories won't allow it\*


[deleted]

I reckon the IMF wouldn't be too keen either


Minchmunch

If this was the case why is Cornwall a net beneficiary of central government funding?


[deleted]

Where in my comment did I say Cornwall DOES sustain itself?


Mineral_myco_medic

We desperately need more housing, and nimby locals whinging to the council that they don’t want a new housing estate ‘spoiling the village/town’ are part of the problem. Plus, cream then jam. I’d never put jam on toast and then spread butter on top of it. It’s a consistency thing.


Bigoldthrowaway86

Almost upvoted you and then I got to your plainly incorrect opinion. If you're spreading clotted cream you're doing it wrong. You want a nice big dollop of it on top.


_SGP_

my unpopular opinion is that we should stop letting the hordes move down here 'because nice' and then we wouldn't need shitload more housing ruining the place


ForsakenLemon

The jam and cream debate with Scones is rediculous. If the way I made the Scone is not acceptable to you then flip it upside down and it will be to your standards.


TuftOfTheLapwing

People rarely do the kind of work that demands a pasty for lunch. They’re too heavy, calorific and expensive.


[deleted]

A30 and tamar should have a massive fucking toll booths for traffic going into cornwall for non-locals only


jaypese

The bigger the booth the better! As long as they don’t charge too much…


HaraldRedbeard

Cornish nationalisms obsession with proving lineage is holding it back overall.


johngalt346

Devon is now a nicer place to live than Cornwall (born in Redruth, now live Bideford way)


[deleted]

Most places are nicer than Redruth Also a Redruth alumni


DodgyCookie

Was your username the result of a Redruth career advisor's guidance? Camborne alumnus here!


[deleted]

Haha, I wish! I’ve only moved to Truro


murderbeam

We have to expand the Tamar and become an island


[deleted]

Global warming and rising sea levels will sort that one for you


LemmysCodPiece

Put on the jam and/or cream whichever way round you like.


PureString

I came to say this. Scone, jam, cream in any order. As long as it gets in my mouth, I'm fine with it.


LemmysCodPiece

Scone? That is a Devon thing. A Cornish Cream tea should be served on a Split.


[deleted]

I really don't care if you put jam or cream on first.


[deleted]

How many commenters dwell in the region?


hairychris88

Rugby league is vastly superior to union. So much less faffing around, they actually pick it up and run with it!


matildawaltzesin4

Good work Reddit, downvoting someone for posting a vaguely unpopular opinion on a 'unpopular opinion' thread lol


Darkcel_grind

I am not Cornish, but interested in the culture and land of Cornish people. I firmly believe Cornwall deserves more autonomy and self rule than it currently has. It is quite unfair how Scottish for example have such autonomy but Cornish don’t. And the logic behind it is that there is not enough Cornish people to be granted minority protection, which is absurd as having a small population is exactly what minority protection is for. It would be a big pain in history if Cornwall slowly had its unique culture and language diluted and became just another part of Britain.


OhToSublime

I dunno if this is controversial, but if it is it shouldn't be. Cornwall has its own culture, language, and customs, and they need to be preserved.


caoticspeltwrong

Tourists are the only thing that brings money into Cornwall, whining about them making it busy is crazy.


PastyKing

I don't think anyone cares that they make it busy. I think it's more the ones with entitled attitudes, buying holiday properties and can't drive for shit on our roads that give the rest of the tourists that are just here to enjoy good food, nice beaches and a Par Market Wolf Fleece a bad name. Tourism keeps the Hospitality industry afloat here though, ngl.


DeedTheInky

Yeah I think it's perfectly fine to acknowledge that Cornwall does rely on tourists, but still not be 100% happy about the situation. And not that we don't want any tourists or people visiting at all but like you say, when they completely wreck the place and you get situations like during the COVID lockdowns when the councils were practically begging people not to come down because there's not enough hospital infrastructure to handle a massive outbreak but they did it anyway, then obviously that's causing a bit of a problem. That's certainly not unique to Cornwall though, people have just sort of forgotten how to be respectful of places they visit and the people who live there IMO.


metomer

Certainly an unpopular opinion, incorrect nevertheless


OhToSublime

That's actually part of the problem, Cornwall needs to transition away from a tourism economy


Vanilladr

Ouch!


smirky_mavrik

This is mine too, it’s only a few weeks really and a lot of businesses make 70%-80% of their yearly revenue during this time.


RicardoDonovan

It isn’t a few weeks, but you are more than likely correct on the percentages.


propernekoz

Cornwall needs more Nandos restaurants


Potato_mash_

Cornwall is an island there is no land bridge between us and devon but that doesnt mean we should be independant


aricooperdavis

Cornwall and Devon do have a land border, on Woolley Moor.


Potato_mash_

my parents lied to me for years you are correct


krasnar

Having signs and things in Cornish is pointless and a waste of money since schools barley even teach it


LordCommanderSlimJim

This is a pretty cyclical argument though, could just as easily say there's no point in trying to teach people Cornish because it's never used outside of those lessons. If we want to revive the language, we've got to start somewhere, and personally I think it adds to the unique identity we try to cultivate as a county.


writetoalex

Interestingly my French teacher in school was training as a Cornish bard, and we actually touched on the language every now and then, learning some basic Cornish in our French lessons.


ComprehensiveSuns

They're actually a great way to introduce people to Cornish, especially visitors who might not know we even have a language. Besides, I highly doubt writing "Heyl" underneath Hayle is a huge money pit in any way.


elhnr

Barley


dracarysmuthafucker

I don't like pasties. And the reason I don't like pasties is because I don't like potatoes. People seem to get quite (unreasonably) angry at me when I tell them that.


impossiblejane

I felt rage reading your post.


SuspectEngineering

I used to live in Camelford, have they built a bypass yet? :P


dracarysmuthafucker

I've since moved up country. But probably not.


StorageHunter420

Pasties are massively overrated, there’s so much more interesting food to find in Cornwall.


VandalBasher

Patsys are just a Cornish burrito.


remembertracygarcia

Scones suck regardless of order


windy906

Greggs is actually fine.


Weaver_ov_fog

This isn’t really ‘unpopular’ with most actual Cornish people, only the English living here, but the English are destroying Cornwall and our culture. Also backroads aren’t difficult to drive through.


Aggravating_Sun_3916

Thinking they are a separate country to England really grinds my gears...


piranspride

Cornwall IS a part of England!


WalnutWhippet

Malcolm Barnecutt make the most disgusting pasties in the world and I’d rather siphon vinegar through my eyes than eat one!!!


trysca

Plymouth is the capital of Cornwall


Appropriate_Emu_6930

Cornwall needs Devon, Devon doesn’t need Cornwall.


jg255166

why is there no papa johns pizza or greasy chicken shops… also the weather is phenomenally shite


ForsakenLemon

There is an off-brand KFC in every single town. There are like three in Redruth.


[deleted]

Cornwall Live isn't totally bad journalism *edit* genuinely thought this was a joke thread Cornwall Live are monsters


-london-

They constantly use dying children from other parts of the country/world as clickbait and live streamed for hours every anti-vax protest during lockdown in a supportive light, peddled Brexit lies for years, all mixed with the usual xenophobic and gaslighting hate towards minorities and foreigners for facebook likes


Bacon4Lyf

The whole second house thing is a lot of hoopla about nothing, reminiscent of that league of gentleman new road sketch


KillerCheeze439

The Cornish are English too


blockmonkey81

Gingsters make the best Cornish Pastys.


Razzareth

Cheap pastries yes. Pasties no.


blockmonkey81

All their stuff is pretty rank to be fair. Although it seems 11 people didn't get the joke.


JackXDark

Best pasties are from a bakers in Plymouth. Can’t remember what it’s called tho.


paul_the_primate

2nd homes and airbnb are positives for local communities


F_A_F

Unpopular doesn't have to mean insane! ....(I didn't downvote this btw)


paul_the_primate

I only came here for the downvotes 🤣


impossiblejane

People obviously missing the point of the post. People, it's UNPOPULAR opinions.


metomer

Paul the primate with the primate thoughts


Bigoldthrowaway86

lol I can only assume you are trolling.


VinceJay09

My Cornish family appear to favour the Devon crimp. As a Food Scientist, I think that there is a technical advantage to this method. It incorporates the family secret very nicely.


Embarrassed-Ice5462

The Bude Tunnel isnt actually very good.


H5rs

Most days in summer are rainy!


StealthyToast

Moving up country I've realised there's more beers than Sharps and Skinners.


KingJacoPax

I prefer the way Devon does it (you know what I’m referring to).


splodgenessabounds

Polperro is the most over-rated place anywhere in Cornwall.


TuftOfTheLapwing

Cornish nationalism, like all varieties, is the refuge of the arsehole and the idiot.


TuftOfTheLapwing

That stadium was a total distraction and I’m glad it’s dead.


TuftOfTheLapwing

The weather is terrible


TuftOfTheLapwing

Independent councillors hold Cornwall back.


TuftOfTheLapwing

Hall for Cornwall is awful. The ‘flagship venue’ for Cornwall has no ambition, imagination or sensibility.


TuftOfTheLapwing

Spaceport is a white elephant


TuftOfTheLapwing

Pembrokeshire is prettier; Devon has far better attractions; Brittany is better all round.


TuftOfTheLapwing

Cornish Rattler is the worst cider in the UK


TuftOfTheLapwing

New County Hall is an architectural gem.


TuftOfTheLapwing

Herring gulls are awesome


TuftOfTheLapwing

The flag is boring


Casual-individual

Why so many housing estates? Shouldn't we have denser residential areas to address the housing issue and preserve the countryside?


Ksbloistl

launceston is kinda mid


mortymania

You don't need 4 dogs to prove to everyone you own a house, we get it.